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      Creator Brendon Kozlowski 2 days ago

      @badger - ahh, ok. Thought someone was going to use the list as a reference point to KS or something.

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      Creator badger 3 days ago

      It was more or less just cut&paste from some older KS version of backers list (with a little help of bash scripting). At the current state of things, I don't think it's important. :)

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell 4 days ago

      Over $1.5 million in scam project reported on I think it's safe to say this isn't an isolated incident. Kickstarter needs to do something before their brand is permanently sullied.

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      Creator Brendon Kozlowski 4 days ago

      @badger - just saw your Google Docs spreadsheet. According to KS I'm backer #366, but since that wasn't my name I didn't want to update that row... Peter Pawlowski might be a very distant relative though. ;)

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      Creator Sippakorn K on April 10

      I'm with @Brandon, I also think Kickstarter should do something about this. I've backed 23 projects and this is one of the two failed projects. Since I first knew about scam projects, my chance of backing projects is down to less than 10%. Nowadays I only star projects and wait until it's done and open for "real" pre-order.

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      Creator Will Chappell on April 9

      I see some places mentioning applying for a refund - I realize it is unrealistic to expect a refund, but I'm curious as to what they mean when they say 'applying for a refund.' Should I be adding my voice to a refund conversation somewhere?

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      Creator Branden Wachtel on April 8

      I think kickstarter has a responsibility to intervene in situations like this - otherwise how can we really trust any project knowing that it might fall apart and kickstarter will just sit back and watch

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      Creator Reto Aeberli on April 2

      I would just like to get some words from Andy about the current status, even if he declares that this project has failed.

      He created this Kickstarter project and he is solely responsible for what happened. If he's working on something else while employed by another company and he is start suing other people then it's only his fault.

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      Creator Steven Glogger on March 31…

      interesting story... andy is broke, run away with the money, ... cheater...
      sorry guys, we've lost $88'018.

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      Creator Evaristo Ramos on March 30

      Great so basically we are all screwed now thanks to the both of you fighting and suing, way to go there Arlo and Andy.

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      Creator Arlo Gilbert on March 26

      Fabian, remember that a lawsuit is written by the party filing it. That means it often contains fiction. I could sue you for being a purple alien.

      Andy was a full time employee and officer of iCall. He used iCall equipment and servers to build mprinter and began approaching investors that iCall was talking to, iCall asked him to sit down and talk about the project that was taking him away from work and he sued the next day without ever having a conversation. I was shocked.

      Regardless, as you pointed out, he sued iCall, not the other way around. My guess is he probably used some of your money to do that.

      Thank god he did sue though, otherwise iCall might have ended up owning a piece of this failed project.

      Either way Fabian, you sound like a sock puppet for Andy trying to steer the conversation away from the fact that the project failed and many people got ripped off.

      Like Andy wanted, mprinter was 100% his. He gets full responsibility for this projects failure as he would have gotten full credit for its success had he come through.

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      Creator Fabian F. on March 26

      I quote from the original petition to the court:
      "On September 18, 2012, Gilbert put Muldowney on notice that iCall claimed ownership of part or all of mPrinter. Gilbert also advised Muldowney that he would be required to tell any potential investors that iCall had made a claim to ownership of part or all of mPrinter."

      icall's Founder and President is Arlo Gilbert

      So you're right. Ady sued first but the reason was Mr. Gilbert. He tried to weasel Andy out of mprinter.

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      Creator badger on March 25

      @Fabian F.:
      have a look at:…
      to see who sued who.
      I'm not sure if the link will work for everybody.. if not, look for case number DC-12-12383 at

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      Creator Fabian F. on March 25

      Isn't Arlo Gilbert the guy who tried to sue Andy to get a slice of "cake" if I read the comments below correctly? He's probably the reason why Andy's broke.

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      Creator Fabio Poloni on March 22

      @Arlo: I'm in for Kicksueing!

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      Creator badger on March 20

      hm, maybe a good time to buy from andy parts he has for mpriners for a fraction of price and try to finish and sell them. :)

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      Creator Arlo Gilbert on March 20

      If you guys are serious you'll want to sue kickstarter not andy. Andy is probably broke. I have an attorney who is excited to try and take on KS but chatting here about it is pointless. Whoever has the list of backers and contact info needs to take this to an email conversation rather than building forums and new sites... Collectively you probably need to raise about 5k for this attorney to take it on. No point in trying to squeeze water out of a rock (Andy)... Go after the deep pockets.

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      Creator badger on March 20

      Any news about the "uniting of the backers"?

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      Creator Steven Glogger on March 18

      I hope, I will met Andy in person... once...
      ... So I could ask him, what went wrong... and ask for my money back...

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      Creator Binoy Xavier Joy on March 14

      Any NYC backer here? Please attend this KS event and talk to them in person. Can someone do this

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      Creator spongefile on March 13

      I've backed over 150 projects on KS, and this is only the second one that has flaked out this badly. So overall KS tends to work. This project is in an unfortunate limbo where Andy can tell KS he's still "working on it" even if he's given up. I don't get the sense that this project was set up as a scam (too much work put into product development) but that he hit obstacles and responded to them with "fuck it". Pity he doesn't get that telling the truth would get him way more sympathy than stonewalling. Other projects have even gotten backers to help get through the obstacles this way.

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      Creator Bill Kirksey on March 12

      @ Badger - You're right! It's time to scream.

      I just nominated Kickstarter as the Worst Company in America in the Consumer Reports/Consumerist annual contest. Below are the details, if you'd also like to make the same nomination.

      The Worst Company In America Trophy…

      "Who will take home the most sought-after trophy in the world: The Golden Poo. That’s right, it’s time to start sending in nominations for the annual Worst Company in America tournament!

      Starting… now! and continuing through 5 p.m. ET on Thursday, March 13, write to us to let us know about those companies that most deserve to be honored with the Golden Poo.

      As always, nominated companies must regularly provide goods and services to American consumers.

      In order for a nomination to be considered, your e-mail must not simply name the company being nominated, but must include a sentence or two that contains actual information on why you’re nominating.

      So a nomination that reads “Company X sucks!” would not be considered, but one that states, “Company X sucks because it [fill in the blanks with reasons for sucking]” would be considered a valid nomination.

      You can still nominate multiple companies, but each nominee must have its own explanation.

      Once you have your nominations ready, e-mail them to before 5 p.m. ET on March 13.

      This year’s WCIA bracket will be revealed Monday, March 17 with voting kicking off the next day."

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      Creator badger on March 10

      @ Binoy Xavier Joy:
      From that, what the form wrote, me I don't think it will help:

      Thank you. Your response has been received.
      A member of the Kickstarter Community Support team will now take the following action:

      1. Include your message in a written notice to the project creator.

      2. Review the project page. If our Community Support team determines that it is warranted, the project creator may be prevented from launching another project until they have completed this project and fulfilled the rewards as promised.

      But anyhow, I'd say It's a goot time to scream anywhere it's possible.

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      Creator Binoy Xavier Joy on March 7

      For anyone who is checking this page please fill out the form here
      to provide feedback to KS regarding this project. Hopefully it will make a difference.

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      Creator Binoy Xavier Joy on March 5

      Kickstarter founders on Twitter- Charles Adler ‏@cadler , Yancey Strickler ‏@ystrickler and Perry Chen ‏@perrychen

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell on March 5

      What @Yves Geffens said is essentially version 2.0 of my site after we have enough verified projects and people. It will take a bit more time to get that one working (this one took me a couple hours) so I just wanted to get this out when I could. It's my ideal way of doing this since multiple projects will want in on this and we could potentially put a bunch of money into 1 big pot and go after KS themselves. Either that, or it will be much easier to centralize a group of law firms to one page that can legally give their money where they please.

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell on March 5

      For now, I think the point of my site is a bit different. It's more to prevent this from happening again, and also to help gather information in 1 spot. The problem here is that we have 10+ scam projects, and no central location for all those people to meet up since we can't comment on other projects we haven't backed.

      I'd like to use the site to get people together and discuss potential legal actions. IN FACT, use the site, and comment on the mPrinter post I made to decide times if you'd like.

      I'm also not sure the legality of using Indiegogo to raise funds. You either have to give the money to a person, a non-profit, or a company. I have little desire to give my money away to yet ANOTHER person or group without knowing for sure it'll be used properly.

      My thought is to eventually set up a donation site once projects have enough backing where we will FIRST find a lawyer local to the creator's area, then set a funding goal, reach the goal without charging anyone, and then release the money directly to that lawyer.

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      Creator badger on March 5

      I'm not sure if backers from Europe might be somehow useful in this confcall, but in the time you suggest the will most likely like to sleep.

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      Creator Frank Walsh on March 5

      Let me also say, I like your idea and the effort you demonstrated to put it together, but it's just not a great business model... the effort it takes to organize people, the number of projects that turn into scams, how long it takes before someone realizes it's a scam....beyond the pure functionality of your kickscammed site needing to be built out, these are obstacles to the success of such a site. I suggest you refocus your efforts to assist in getting a indygogo site together which starts the process I described.

      How's this for a start. Let's schedule a conference call for backers to discuss it in 2 weeks. Sometime in the next few days I'll propose a few conference times.... I'll present to backers a few options where those who want to assist in the persuit of Andy can hop on a line and delegate what we're going to do and how we're going to do it.

      From there we'll update the remaining backers here...and organize the steps we need to take to identify legal representation and get funding and then delegate those steps to backers who want to contribute their time.

      I'll present the times tomorrow. Justin if you want to be of help, since it appears you can code fairly well.

      Quickly put together a page where people can sign up for different time slots. Try to make the time slots after hours PST - so 8:00PM EST would likely be ideal on a weekday and one on a Sunday...let's say 1:00 EST - 4:00 PST.

      Once we have some signups, we'll meet on a google hangout using ubercall for the voice dialin...and get this ball rolling.

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      Creator Frank Walsh on March 5

      Nah...nice idea Justin. But using Indegogo or a major competitor to KickStarter..says something, and will get us press. I still think it makes more sense from an attention standpoint to use a crowd funding site we know already exists....I agree however with JackAscii's remark though, using Indegogo would likely draw attention to our efforts because it's kind of a slap in Kickstarters face for not protecting us from Andy.

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell on March 4

      Alright guys, checkout what I have right now. This should suffice until we can decide on a full feature set and scope. I think something that will just serve as a place to keep projects accountable on the web is a good idea. Projects can be reported while they are in funding, and after. This way people can search the site before pledging or search it before going into business or investing with someone to see if they scammed someone before.

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      Creator Yves Geffens on March 4

      Excellent idea Justin. A registration page for a law firm, a registration page to report a project, and a registration page for backers ? Cost for the backer depends on the amount he pledged? ... Show how much you raise per project, so a law firm can see how much they will make when they agree to take the case. Multiple interested law firms? The one that offers to do it for the lowest price gets the job. (don't know if all of this is possible, in Belgium this doens't work like it does in the US)

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell on March 4

      So I'd really like to know what people want out of this site. I'm apprehensive about involving money myself. What I think I'd like to do is use the platform as a way to gather information, possibly get donations, and eventually hire a lawyer local to each project's area. Thoughts?

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell on March 4

      I'm going to set up a self-hosted crowdfunding site for scam Kickstarters at

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      Creator Eddy G on March 4

      I would definitely like to pursue legal action. It's a year past the "estimated delivery" date for backer rewards. At this point, I want a refund — I don't even want the printer anymore, since it will likely not function reliably. I've joined the "Backers Unite" forum mentioned earlier.

      The fact that "mPrinter LLC" has had its tax status "involuntarily ended" (as pointed out by Dave Rigotti in an earlier comment) says plenty about where things stand...

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      Creator JackAscii on March 3

      @Frank - I forgot to stipulate that I'm in, but I would prefer to use a different crowdfunding site to raise the money. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I really would hate for Kickstarter to get a piece of the funds when they, in addition to Andy, are the issue...

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      Creator JackAscii on March 3

      @Frank, Count me in.

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      Creator Binoy Xavier Joy on March 3

      Kickstarter is celebrating 1B pledge fund feat today. Make some noise on their social media accounts. I just did my part…

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      Creator Frank Walsh on March 2

      Someone get in touch with me...we all have let's do this in a way that doesn't drain our time. Let's find a reputable law firm in Andy's area, let's find out how much it would cost to procure him to pursue Andy. Let's create a kickstarter campaign... reach our goal... and get real action. if half the backers (350) gave 25 bucks each it would be 8750....I think we could definitely find someone to pursue our money and justice for 8-10k.

      At this point, I don't care if I get another update from Andy, he's clearly lying...and stalling in hopes we move on or a statute of limitation on a criminal or civil charge expires.

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      Creator Frank Walsh on March 2

      So we need to band together on this... I see a lot of great ideas...and mis-information. You can't start a corporation.... not deliver product and then just squash the corporation to avoid responsibility. Any judge would just throw the corp out and find you personally responsible.

      I am considering putting together another kickstarter persue andy...a kickstarter to fund the legal pursuit of our money...... that my friends...would get media attention.

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      Creator Frank Walsh on March 2

      I have a list of 40 to 50 backers I collected the names of .. I will share that with you email me at frank[dot]walsh[at]gmail[dot]com

      This is theft and Andy is both civilly and possibly criminally responsible.

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      Creator William Kreutinger on March 2

      I still want the printer if it works as advertised, I also added a battery so I'm in for almost $200... you can add me to an email list. My email is my first name at my last

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      Creator Binoy Xavier Joy on March 1

      Count me in. Kickstarter is awesome, let's unite to weed out the bad guys for good. IMO before a Thunderclap campaign or sorts, creating an email list is recommended.

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      Creator badger on February 28

      (not only) @Richard:
      Everyone willing to help/join some action. Please let JackAscii know about you (preferably here:…; ) and provide him with _some contact on you_ . If you just add a comment here, he can only reply you here, but he can't write you email, personal message or something like that if he needs you to react reasonably fast.

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      Creator Richard Fox on February 27

      I am in on any action you guys would have except for law suits and this juncture. Getting a response from Andy would be a start at this point.

      I no longer remember why I wanted this product I kinda just want the box so I can finally clear my list of "physical item" kickstarts. All of which have been delayed.

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      Creator Justin A Mitchell on February 26

      I'm thinking of making a website solely dedicated to scamstarters. Anyone behind that idea?

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      Creator JackAscii on February 26

      Disgruntled backers,
      I have done some research regarding other failed projects and the recourse taken by disgruntled backers. Of the 20 I reviewed, only three were around the same dollar value. I am going to contact one of the groups that elected to pursue a lawsuit. I don't know how successful they were, but I think it will be a good start to learn from them. For the others, I really cannot emphasize enough that if we have any hope to get a response, we need to collectively make our selves heard. Per the badger forum, I am still the newest member which is fairly disappointing. I did hear from a non backer that purchased a printer (which also was never delivered) from Andy's website and he is interested in joining our cause. But still, we need to rally together. 90K

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      Creator Brian Poage on February 23 is listed on a profile I found on a website. There is an email listed there. You don't need me to tell you what to do with it. Hope it helps.

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      Creator JackAscii on February 23

      Ive requested a refund publicly and privately (to Andy directly) several times. Is it time to move forward with a thunderclap, emails to the scamstarter team and andy, and emails to Amazon? 90k

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