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"Axanar" is the story of Garth of Izar & the Battle of Axanar, a pivotal event in the history of the Federation.
"Axanar" is the story of Garth of Izar & the Battle of Axanar, a pivotal event in the history of the Federation.
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    1. Cantare 3 days ago

      Perhaps a lot of us are looking at this situation in the wrong way.

      Instead of a Class Action, perhaps some people, particularly those who live in California, should consider filing a Small Claims dispute regarding the terms of this contract having been broken by the creator of this sham of a project. Granted, that won't help people who live in other States or outside the U.S., but if enough people do this, perhaps it will get some attention in the media and make Alec the Crook more than just a little uncomfortable.

      He shouldn't be allowed to get away with what he's done to all the people who backed this project. It just isn't right.

      Oh, and for whatever it's worth, I am again requesting a full refund because this project can no longer be fulfilled as a result of the settlement of the lawsuit brought by CBS and Paramount, which Mr. Peters pushed and pushed for until they finally did sue him.

    2. Tom Ryan on June 20

      I am a BACKER, not a donor.
      As a backer I have not received what was stated and cannot ever get that due to the lawsuit.
      I demand a refund under the Kickstarter contract that Alec agreed to.

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      James Edwards on June 16

      @Peter while all of that is true Alec the Con Man Peters has no interest in refunding anyone, does not give two shits about the agreement, the law, has no integrity and the only way anyone will ever see any money is via a lawsuit, which no single backer is likely to ever pursue as the legal fees would be far greater that the reward since Alec gave away everything we paid for except for a useless bridge set and claims to have no money so even if you won, you'd get nothing.

      The man belongs in jail, not out free perpetuating this illegal scam and stealing more money from victims.

      The only way to get anything would be if we could sue Paramount/CBS for allowing him to continue with this scam to defraud even more Star Trek fans.

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      Peter Epperly on June 15

      For the record, I AM A BACKER - NOT A DONOR! I did not donate anything; I pledged monies as a backer of a project that promised certain PERKS for the use of my money. I myself, have received the Prelude to Axanar Blu-ray and some Patches. Still waiting on the rest of my PERKS. Too bad they will not be fulfilled in full as the contract Alec Peters and myself entered into when I pledged monies to his Kickstarter and Indigogo campaigns indicated they should be. Yes, a pledge through these fund raising sites can be considered a contract between you and the parties raising the funds.

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      James Edwards on June 14

      @Ben

      I think of us as victims of a fraudulent con enacted by one Alec Peters.

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      Ben W Bell on June 12

      Everyone please stop referring to yourselves as donors. You are not. You are backers who backed a project in return for something at the end, you did not donate and are not donors. Donor implies you expected nothing in return which is now what this Kickstarter was. It's quite clear you're a backer and expect certain rewards that are very clearly defined and Impossible to deliver. By referring to yourselves as donors you're absolving Alec and buying into his skew on events and obligations.

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      James Edwards on June 12

      I'm also looking for a refund.

      I find it funny that Alec was bragging about how good the vulcan scene was and bashing a former employee.

      Well, given that this campaign generated ~$600,000 after ks's cut it darn well out to be the best scene ever since that scene is all thats left to show for that $600,000.

      Perhaps brag less about how much of OUR money you wasted Alec and think about how much MORE other more accomplished Star Trek Fan creators have done with so much LESS.

    8. Tom Ryan on June 7

      he is hoping we all go away.
      I still want my Refund which I am legally allowed under Kickstarter rules.

    9. Carl Norman on June 5

      Peters, where is that first draft of the script?

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      James Edwards on May 30

      @Steve

      The names are known, check Axamonitors websites for articles on the issue.

      I believe all had conflicting interests and none are professional accountants.

      I also believe they were only given a select set of records (the ones that didn't show any wrongdoing).

      In short, the "independent" financial review, like everything else from Alec is a lie to perpetuate the fraudulent con.

    11. Steve Creech on May 29

      Alec, seriously. You need to grow a backbone and a LOT of professionalism. Quit acting like a spoiled child who cries when something doesn't go his way. As donors, we are entitled to scrutinize exactly how the funds were spent. You maintain that all of the financial reports were evaluated by professionals and found to be acceptable. Exactly who were those people? As donors we have a right to know. Name them.

      What is your new timetable to produce the two 15 min episodes? Yes, we know you are beginning to write the scripts just now, but when is principal production set to begin? This summer? Q3 Fall? Later? How long is post-production expected to take? What is the new expected release date?

      These are legitimate questions that we, as backers, should be given answers to. We are your investors and, in a fashion, your shareholders. Communication in a polite manner instead of flying your arms about crying about person x,y and z and saying they are only out to tarnish your reputation, bring down Axanar, or make all Star Trek fans suffer would greatly put an end to much of the criticism you are dealing with. We just want our questions addressed in the manner in which we are asking.

      I'm also willing to bet that if you were to refund the donors who are asking, it would go a long way to establish goodwill with those who still want to have a stake in Axanar. I know that my current opinion would change if you were to refund me. And, yes, I am asking that you refund my pledge.

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      James Edwards on May 29

      We have nothing to show for it.

      The landlord has a year or two of rent to show for it, the new owner of the studio has a substandard studio that isn't soundproofed to show for it. Alec & his girlfriend may or may not have a year or two salary to show for it (he says he gave it back but the financial records of that transaction seem to have been lost in the shuffle). The website guy got some money I believe before Alec stiffed him and he swiped all the backer data.The contractors would have gotten something, etc.

      The only people who got nothing for all the money was the backers.

    13. Cantare on May 26

      @James

      He had the offices carpeted for nothing. I'm sure he was conscious of every penny he spent, just as I'm sure he shot the so-called "Vulcan scene" which was under three minutes for as little as he possibly could. And you can't​ tell me that a guy could have burned through a million and a half dollars without a darn thing to show for it other than a scene that was under three minutes long. I'm sure he has some of the donor money squirreled away even if it's just 100K, and I'd be willing to bet that it's more than that.

      And I'm free to draw such a conclusion being that the guy has nothing for all the donor money that was pissed away. Even if you want to be generous one would have to say he's shown himself to be grossly incompetent.

      Also, keep in mind something that you have apparently lost sight of. Christian Gossett's attitude was, 'Okay, we have the money, now let's start shooting'. I've heard him say so in podcasts. However, Peters wouldn't, so Gossett ended up walking away. How come Peters didn't just go ahead and do what Gossett suggested? What exactly was he thinking that made him decide that it wasn't time to start shooting back then after all? What exactly did he think he could accomplish from stalling the project?

      It was about his greed and the money. That's what motivated him beyond a certain point more than making the movie.

      So yeah, I believe a sizable chunk of the funding has gone to his own secret stash. I believe it, based on his actions.

      And he has no one to blame for that but himself.

    14. Carl Norman on May 26

      Peters, so you don't have to scroll down, I am re-posting the questions:

      1. How to account for the total loss of $500,000 in donor funds that you attribute to the lawsuit? Please break that down into detail. How was the money spent, exactly?

      2. What exactly is YOUR full-time job, Mr. Peters? If the Axanar donor money isn't being used to pay you, then how do you make your living?

      3. Who exactly remains on your production team from the original Prelude to Axanar production? Who are the people currently slated to work on the Axanar fearure(s)?

      4. Which actors, specifically, will be appearing in the Axanar feature? Which of the actors from Prelude to Axanar will be appearing in Axanar?

      5.How do you justify and explain your decision to spend donor money to construct physical sets that you have also moved from California to Georgia only to then announce that you are "transferring" these assets paid for by donors to another company that appears to be a for profit enterprise?

      6. Also, please explain and justify your decision to no longer require the use of these sets to create the Axanar feature(s)?

    15. Carl Norman on May 26

      Notice how Peters will waste our time with a fluff piece on ST: Discovery and avoid addressing ANY of the concerns that any of us donors have brought-up on this comments section. Peters, we don't give a damn about you opinions on Discovery. We don't consider you an authority on Star Trek. Many of us have been fans for just as long or longer than you. Many of us have participated in ST fandom and we don't need your opinions. We need you to be truly transparent and address our concerns instead of insulting, censoring, and ignoring our questions. Who the hell do you think you are? Many of us are not going to just fade away because you don't like the fact that we are attempting to hold you accountable. We aren't going away. Release the financial records from the court and prove to us where the money went. Answer the 6 questions I posed below in another message. Your avoidance speaks loudly. Have some guts and face the people from whom you took money.

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      James Edwards on May 26

      @Cantare Unless you have access to financial records you can not prove that. Nor can you even reasonably assume that. In fact, it wouldn't be to hard to disprove that.

      Keep in mind the 1.4 mil # commonly thrown out includes the first KS, this KS, private donations and I believe merch sales from the website. (feel free to correct me if I'm worng there alec).

      The first kickstarter produced prelude, some rewards were provided, we've been told the rent on the studio was absurdly high and enough other people have dug deep enough it would have come out if that number had been a lie.

      I work in construction so I have a fair idea of how much remodeling can cost.

      So no, I strongly doubt Alec has half a mil, 1/3 the total collected squirreled away somewhere (you can feel free to correct me on that too if you'd like alec,)

      The issue isn't weather or not stole money to bank for himself, its that he spent money on expenses that are not legitimate expenses, i.e. anything to do with the studio is NOT a legitimate expense as it did nothing to fulfil the rewards and any money spent on the studio is therefore a fraudulent expenditure, because kickstarter REQUIRES the money to be sufficient to create the rewards and be used to create the rewards, i.e. in this case create the film, not the studio.

    17. Cantare on May 26

      @James

      $500,000 is probably the amount he has stuffed in his mattress, or secreted away in a safety deposit box somewhere.

      I'm telling you, he didn't spend and waste all the money he brought in on those fundraisers on nothing but a partially built stage and a monthly rent on the Warehouse he used for purposes other than what that money was actually supposed to be used for. There's no way.

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      James Edwards on May 26

      As far as the lawsuit costing backers 500,000. That's a misrepresentation of facts at best, an outright lie at worst. The lawsuit didn't cost us 500,000. Alec's decision to fraudulently spend backer money on a for profit studio, payments to himself and others instead of fulfilling the rewards as he was required to do by the terms he agreed to when he used Kickstarter to take our money are what caused the backers to lose $500,000.

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      James Edwards on May 26

      Seriously Alec, your back to the blue walls of spam that say nothing except "nothing to see here, ignore the people with the legitimate requests for refund and complaints, come ehre to our hate site and read all bout how evil cbs/paramount are for trying to keep me from illegally stealing there IP"

    20. Cantare on May 26

      As soon as Christian Gossett left this project, and the rest of the "Prelude to Axanar" team followed soon after, people should have smelled a rat.

    21. Cantare on May 26

      $1.5 million down a drain with nothing to show for it; he claims to not even be able to produce a film a third as long as what was originally promised to donors of this Kickstarter; now claims that rewards (things like patches and so forth that were promised as part of this Kickstarter) aren't being sent out to donors because donors haven't properly registered, even though my name and address hasn't changed since I donated to this project in it's final moments of winding down and I haven't received anything to date (nor do I really care to see any such material showing up in my mail anyway because I've been so soured on this project as a result of the actions of it's creator); and he blames him and his production company having been sued for why nothing was done to produce this project, even though he did practically everything under the sun to ensure him and his company being sued by the actual IP owners despite their years and years of leniency with respect to such matters until he came along and had to ruin the prospects of completing his own project and ruining what other Trek fan film makers could produce from here on out because of his persistent violations of protocol and pushing the envelope beyond a point that the IP owners were willing to tolerate and accept; and ultimately he ends up blaming his donors for their supposed intolerance and lack of paying attention despite his not having produced anything in almost three years.

      What a fink.

      And don't let him fool you people, because I can say pretty confidently that he probably has a mattress stuffed with a lot of the cash from this Kickstarter hidden away somewhere, or perhaps it's under a closet in his house, much like Walter White in "Breaking Bad." Or hidden away in a safety deposit box somewhere. A guy like him who blew so much donor money on personal expenses, costs of living and personal entertainment undoubtedly also socked a lot of that cash away somewhere, hidden from any potential oversight or public view. All of that money didn't simply disappear, nor was it used on a project in which practically nothing was shot or produced.

    22. Carl Norman on May 26

      The bridge of the USS Ares that is incomplete, paid for by Axanar donor funds, and will not be used in the Axanar feature. This bridge set apparently is also being "transferred" to Peters' new for-profit company, Rocketworx, another in a line of Peters' companies. How does he justify taking something created by donor funds that won't be used for the intended purpose and then he gets to transfer to his new company? Does Peters think we are not paying attention here? He blew a large portion of the donor money on a warehouse that was partially converted to being a "studio", he has not used that studio to product anything except to store his props and other gear from his other "successful" company Propworx. He got out of his lease early on Industry Studios leaving behind all the infrastructure modifications made with Axanar donor money and moved everything to a smaller warehouse in Georgia. Then he announced his new production company Rocketworx which appears to be a for-profit venture. Peters, what happened to Axanar Productions having filed for non-profit status with the government? Will Axanar Productions continue in Atlanta and pursue the non-profit status? Again, how do you justify transferring assets (the sets) intended for Axanar and paid for by donor money to your new company? Please explain all of this to the donors. Where is a true accounting of the donor funds? Why won't you release actual financial records as you did to the court for the lawsuit?

    23. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 25

      Thoughts on Star Trek: Discovery

      First and foremost, we at Axanar LOVE Star Trek. I have personally been a fan for 50 years, longer than anyone at CBS or Paramount has worked on Star Trek. The lawsuit didn’t make me lose one ounce of love for this beloved franchise, as I can separate the current owners of the IP from the franchise itself. So I am looking forward to the new Star Trek as much as any fan. I have my reservations though.

      First of all, CBS fired Bryan Fuller. Huge mistake. Fuller has already proven that he is one of the best show runners in Hollywood with both Hannibal and now American Gods. Letting him and a bunch of the creative team go handicapped the new Star Trek from the start. Can it recover? We hope so, but we will always wonder what it could have been with Fuller at the helm (Just look at the rave reviews Fuller’s American Gods is getting.)

      Second, this is NOT the Prime Timeline. This is a reboot or an alternate timeline like JJ created. You can say all you want that Discovery takes place in the Prime Timeline but the fact is the Prime Timeline has been defined by TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and even Enterprise. Discovery doesn’t even remotely look like any of those shows, and doesn’t try to. It clearly looks more advanced than Voyager, and the Klingons aren’t Prime Timeline Klingons. So this is a reboot.

      And that in itself is FINE! We have no problem with a reboot, and I am huge fan of the fact that JJ Abrams and his team made their movies an alternate timeline. That was genius and why not just say that CBS? Let’s be honest, this is a reboot, embrace it. There is nothing wrong with that. The problem is trying to tell us this is prime timeline when it clearly isn’t. I LOVE the idea of the Star Trek multiverse. FASA, the novels, the comics, these are all alternate timelines and that is what makes the Star Trek universe great.

      Third, if this takes place 10 years before Kirk, then the crew should NOT be wearing the Starfleet chevron, which Gene Roddenberry himself stated was only adopted by Starfleet after the return of the Enterprise from her first 5 year mission (see the TMP novelization). We all know this. The Discovery crew ignored this fact (as did the JJ movies it is only fair to point out). We specifically address this in Axanar by using different patches for different ships which is one of the things fans love, our acknowledgement of the minutiae of the universe. It would have gone a long way to winning hard core fans if Discovery did the same thing (but OK if you acknowledge it is a reboot like JJ did).

      I really think most of the things hard core fans have an issue with all would have been solved by NOT placing this 10 years before Kirk. The ships would look right, the chevron would have been correct, the fact that everything looks like it takes place years after Voyager would have been fine! Why go back when fans want to see the story move forward? (Let us fans deal with the past in our fan films, since we frankly do a pretty good job at it). I bet we would even let the Klingons slide! (though we really all would have loved to have seen JG Hertzler as the Chancellor Martok!).

      Hey, that ship looks familiar!

      OK, that being said, I am looking forward to Discovery. How could a Star Trek fan not? Give it a chance. I know many of you are pissed about the JJ movies, or Enterprise, or whatever. But remember we are Star Trek fans and there is that idea that we live by certain enlightened values, one of which is IDIC: Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Is this not the perfect opportunity to try and live by that value?

      No one says you have to shell out the $ for it. The premier will be on CBS, so you can watch for free. After that, go watch at a friend’s house.

      Meanwhile, we will be watching on the bridge of the USS Ares at OWC Studios in Atlanta, and you are ALL invited!

      Alec

    24. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 25

      IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR DONORS

      1) The best way to stay up to date with Axanar is by visiting our website on a regular basis at www.axanarproductions.com

      2) All donors should be receiving our donor email newsletter. If you are not, you may subscribe to the donor email list here:

      https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin

      3) All donors need to go through our donor management system, Ares Digital which is also how we deliver digital perks. This is where you can update your shipping address as well. You can find more information here:

      http://www.axanarproductions.com/ares-digital-2-0-and-what…/

      4) If you have any donor questions, you can email Diana at support@axanarproductions.com.

      5) Axanar Kickstarter - Patches for the Axanar Kickstarter have been shipped to those who went through Ares Digital. If you did not receive your patches, then you most likely did not go through Ares Digital. Please do so by following the link above. All other perks will be shipped when they are available, which generally means after we shoot Axanar later this year.

      6) Axanar Indiegogo - No perks for the Axanar Indiegogo have shipped. Perks will be shipped after we shoot Axanar later this year.

      Please understand that while donors did not pay for the over $1 million in legal fees that we received for free from Winston & Strawn, the lawsuit by CBS/Paramount cost donors approximately $500,000 in lost time and studio costs. It also delayed everything by almost a year and a half as we couldn’t proceed during the lawsuit and we recently had to move our sets to a new studio across the country. Also, no one is getting paid to work on Axanar and that means we have to work on Axanar around our full time jobs. So please be patient. This is a massive undertaking.

    25. Carl Norman on May 25

      Upon further reflection and reading this latest update again, I have a couple questions for Mr. Alec Peters:

      1. How to account for the total loss of $500,000 in donor funds that you attribute to the lawsuit? Please break that down into detail. How was the money spent, exactly?

      2. What exactly is YOUR full-time job, Mr. Peters? If the Axanar donor money isn't being used to pay you, then how do you make your living?

      3. Who exactly remains on your production team from the original Prelude to Axanar production? Who are the people currently slated to work on the Axanar fearture(s)?

      4. Which actors, specifically, will be appearing in the Axanar feature? Which of the actors from Prelude to Axanar will be appearing in Axanar?

      5.How do you justify and explain your decision to spend donor money to construct physical sets that you have also moved from California to Georgia only to then announce that you are "transferring" these assets paid for by donors to another company that appears to be a for profit enterprise?

      6. Also, please explain and justify your decision to no longer require the use of these sets to create the Axanar feature(s)?

    26. Carl Norman on May 25

      How stunning, Peters claims that "donors" lost $500,000 because of the lawsuit. Lost time and studio costs. Please explain how maintaining rent of a studio where there was no production going on was a sound, wise, and competent business decision? As for nobody getting paid, well...As part of the law suit that CBS/Paramount files against Alec Peters, one of the responses to the court by CBS/Paramount contained a listing of the things they accussed Peters of spending donor money on to benefit himself and others in his production company. Here is a link to a screenshot of the relevent page from the court document:

      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php…

      The document states that Peters personally profited from CBS/Paramount's intellectual property by paying himself with funds raised from donors. The document states that Peters spent fan-raised funds to pay for tires on his Lexus, to service his car, to pay for his gas every week for two years, to pay for his girlfriend's gas, to pay for personal phone bills for himself, his girlfriend and Robert Meyer Burnett (the supposed director of Axanar). The document also states that Peters used these funds to pay for his health insurance, his car insurance, his annual AAA memberships, his TSA pre-check fee, and his personal travel to conventions both in the US and internationally. The document also states that Peters spent TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in restaurant meals. Both Peters and his girlfriend allegedly had debit cards that used fan-raised money. The document also states that Peters used the California studio rented with Axanar donor money to store items from he Propworx business without Propworx contributing rent to the facility.

      Peters maintains that he released financial records to donors but these were selective records by Peters that were supposedly reviewed by a committee of "industry professionals", all people associated with Peters. He was required to provide the court with financial records but has never provided those records to the donors or had an independent professional audit of the Axanar Productions finances conducted by a reputable and professional accounting firm. Peters claims transparency but is selective and restrictive on what information he provides.

    27. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 25

      IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR DONORS

      1) The best way to stay up to date with Axanar is by visiting our website on a regular basis at www.axanarproductions.com

      2) All donors should be receiving our donor email newsletter. If you are not, you may subscribe to the donor email list here:

      https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin…

      3) All donors need to go through our donor management system, Ares Digital which is also how we deliver digital perks. This is where you can update your shipping address as well. You can find more information here:

      http://www.axanarproductions.com/ares-digital-2-0-and-what-you-need-to-do/

      4) If you have any donor questions, you can email Diana at support@axanarproductions.com.

      5) Axanar Kickstarter - Patches for the Axanar Kickstarter have been shipped to those who went through Ares Digital. If you did not receive your patches, then you most likely did not go through Ares Digital. Please do so by following the link above. All other perks will be shipped when they are available, which generally means after we shoot Axanar later this year.

      6) Axanar Indiegogo - No perks for the Axanar Indiegogo have shipped. Perks will be shipped after we shoot Axanar later this year.

      Please understand that while donors did not pay for the over $1 million in legal fees that we received for free from Winston & Strawn, the lawsuit by CBS/Paramount cost donors approximately $500,000 in lost time and studio costs. It also delayed everything by almost a year and a half as we couldn’t proceed during the lawsuit and we recently had to move our sets to a new studio across the country. Also, no one is getting paid to work on Axanar and that means we have to work on Axanar around our full time jobs. So please be patient. This is a massive undertaking.

    28. Carl Norman on May 25

      I also urge donors to go to the main Campaign page for this Kickstarter campaign and use the "Report this project" button at the very bottom of the main page. Report Peters' abuse in this comment section and his failure to provide what we all donated for in the campaign to Kickstarter. My interactions with Kickstarter have been lack luster as they appear to have taken their cut and don't want to get involved. Hit the Campaign link above under the image of the Ares and then scroll to the bottom of the page to find the "Report this campaign" button. Tell Kickstarter that you are dissatisfied and that you do not appreciate the campaign creator abusing the donors in the campaign comments section. If enough of us complain to Kickstarter maybe they will pay more attention.

    29. Carl Norman on May 25

      James Edwards' comments are spot on! He is another donor that has been abused, insulted, and libeled by Alec Peters simply for asking questions. When someone like me or James, who have donated money to Peters, asks questions and brings-up concerns on the official Axanar Facebook pages Alec Peters' standard tactic is to censor us by removing our comments, ban us from the official pages, and then insult and ridicule us in public. His actions are unprofessional and outrageous.

      I urge all donors to demand that this situation be investigated by the California Office of the Attorney General. You can file a complaint at this website:

      https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company

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      James Edwards on May 25

      @Axanar Productions

      "The same disgruntled donors who have been bitching and moaning all across the Internet"

      That is a lie, the only place I've posted is here, and what you call bitching and moaning is me asking for the refund I am entitled to, the refund you agreed to give me and any other backers who request one when you created the project here. Its in the 2014 KoS terms of service. You need to READ it and ABIDE BY IT.

      "These guys lie about our project,"

      Excuse me?

      Nothing I said in my last few posts is a lie, even the post you deleted wasn't a lie. Nor is it libel to call someone a liar and a thief when you present proof of both things in the post you accuse them of being a liar and a thief.

      "The financials were reviewed by a group of professionals"

      That is a LIE Alec. None of the people who reviewed your financials was an expert in the field of financial forensics. ALL of them were in some way tied to you and in no way impartial in that investigation as they all had something to gain by not finding anything.

      "When we are done you will get your perks" Thats is also a lie as I have repeatedly proved you CAN NOT DELIVER THE PERKS AND COMPLETE THIS PROJECT!!

      Unless you can resurrect Richard Hatch from the dead, convince Tony to rejoin the project or find some way to get out of the settlement agreement from the lawsuit you can never provide the rewards we are due.

      "Stop giving Star Trek fans a bad name and go away" I don't believe we are the ones giving Star Trek, or its fans a bad name. I would think that would be the guy that took 1.4 million from real Star Trek fans and blew it with nothing substantial to show for it, then threatens them repeatedly, harasses them,. bullies them when they ask for the refunds they are entitled to as per the terms YOU AGREED TO Alec when you created this project.

      "people who are trying really hard to do a good job" You took 1.4 million, built a substandard studio with money that was supposed to be spent on making the film, not a studio (money raised on kickstarter must be spent to fulfill the rewards, not your personal desires) Lost the studio, had to run another campaign on indiegogo, failed at that, had to move and after what, nearly 3 years are no closer to satisfying the rewards? I'm sorry if I was "trying really hard to do a good job" and failed that catastrophically badly I'd be out of a job, ANYONE would.

      You have made libelous, harassing, threatening claims against me but offered not the slightest shred of proof of you lies.

      I offer conclusive proof of every one of my accusations.

      I'm thinking the idiot here is the one with the blue posts, not me.

      "go away"

      Sorry, can't do that. I'm entitled to my $125 refund and I'm not going to let you take something I've cherished since I was the kid with the glasses who got bullied in school because I had open heart surgery and read Star Trek books because in the 1970's recovery from surgery like that meant you couldn't do anything physical for a year and the other kids couldn't get that and assumed that meant you were freak, 4 eyes and an animal you spit on when you walked by them in the hall.

      Star Trek was one of the few good things in my life and I am not going to let a PoS bully, liar and thief like Alec ruin that.

      I am entitled to a refund in full of $125 as you can not and will not finish this project. Those were the terms set by Kickstarter and Axanar Productions when you created this KS and you need to honor them.

    31. Louis L. on May 24

      You want these comments to end, just give people the refunds, myself included, I may be busy and not happy with what has happened but because of what happened I don't see the project being viable what so ever with the funds we raised. Successful or not, delayed or not, when a customer asks for a refund, from any kickstarter (even if not asked) they should get a refund, I got one from another kickstarter, full refund $300+ and I didn't even ask for it, the project was delayed. Another one, same deal, delays, I wasn't happy, they gave me a refund, no questions asked. So why is it so difficult to be a business professional and just give refunds when requested? Yes I was a huge donor, and I want the full amount back, all $5000 of it. Why is that so hard? It's business, not a donation. This isn't a charity

    32. Carl Norman on May 24

      Typical Alec Peters blaming everyone else and making accusations that just don't hold any validity to reality. He is calling me a liar. Ok, Alec, let's get specific, point out what I have stated anywhere that is a lie. You claim I am acting childish and having a "tantrum", please show us exactly where that occurred. All i have done is asked questions, stated my concerns, and for that you censored me, banned me from the official FB sites for Axanar. I am a donor of $360 to you and you have treated me unfairly and unprofessionally and you have the unmitigated gall to accuse me of being childish, a liar, and defaming YOU? I demand that you either restore my access to the pages, give me the perks that were promised, or refund me my entire donation. Now you have removed me from any e-mail updates and ignore my requests by e-mail to have the updates restored. You blocked me on FB because you are a coward and you think ignoring me and others who have legitimate concerns will cause us to fade away. Guess again, I am going to take this to a new level with complaints to the California Attorney General, the BBB, and other agency or organization to ensure you are held accountable. You have lots of excuses and you keep changing what your obligations are to those of us who donated. One only needs to go to the many FB pages and blogs that have been created because of Peter's disreputable and shoddy practices to see that Peters is without honor. One only needs to look at his past business practices to see that incompetence and failure are his product. You want to mention libel, keep calling people liars because they are calling you out with the facts and watch what happens. Alec Peters, you are a pathetic little man who's paranoia and narcissistic personality continue to demonstrate that you fail to live up to your obligations while blaming everyone else for your failure and bad behavior. We're not going away Peters, we're going to keep calling you out where ever you go.

    33. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 24

      UPDATE: Monday, May 22nd, 2017

      The last donors update covered much of what was going on, but I want to make sure you all know about everything that is happening! So here is an update on what is going on.

      AXANAR

      I am currently working on the script for the two 15 minute episodes permitted under our settlement agreement with CBS/Paramount. We are on track to have the first draft done by the end of the month, and I am meeting with Bill Hunt, my co-writer, next week.

      I have already met with the make-up and VFX teams that will be involved in making episodes IV and V of The Four Years War, which along with Prelude to Axanar (Which was episode III) will make an epic Star Trek trilogy you all will love.

      AXANAR PRODUCTIONS

      Finishing Axanar and delivering all the perks to our backers is our top priority moving forward. The production company that we set up to produce Axanar – Axanar Productions – is focused solely on these two goals.

      Once this has been accomplished, Axanar Productions will close down, having finished its mission. Any other work Rob, Diana or I do will be outside the purview of Axanar Productions.

      The bridge set, rebuilt in its new home in Atlanta, Georgia.

      THE SETS

      Because we had to find a new home for the sets built for the Axanar feature film when we vacated Industry Studios, the sets have been transferred to a new company, Rocketworx, which is the lessor of the new studio space in Lawrenceville. Rocketworx is a production company focused on making great genre content and will preserve the sets built for Axanar and make them available for any fan film or film production that wants to use them. Typically a production would destroy its sets after use, but Rocketworx will be taking care of the sets built for the Axanar feature film, finishing them, and allowing other fan films to use them. Rocketworx is all about making great science fiction content.

      OPEN SOURCE AXANAR

      One of the big changes we are making, in order to keep Axanar alive and thriving into the future, is to turn over as much of it as we can to fans. This includes the running of the Axanar Fan Group on Facebook, which has been turned over to a group of fans now running that group.

      Fans are developing comic books, doing animation art and more, all celebrating Axanar. We love it, and are eternally grateful for all of your support. You all are what is keeping the Star Trek we know and love alive and well.

      Alec

    34. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 24

      The same disgruntled donors who have been bitching and moaning all across the Internet. James Edwards, Steve Creech, Carl Norman. You guys need to grow up and move on.

      These guys lie about our project, defame and libel Alec and they act like spoiled children throwing a tantrum.

      The project got sued and s delayed. The financials were reviewed by a group of professionals (something you guys are not) and they found nothing wrong.

      Stop giving Star Trek fans a bad name and go away. When we are done you will get your perks and you can stop being idiots to people who are trying really hard to do a good job.

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      James Edwards on May 23

      Of course none of this negates my earlier post you apparently found offensive, if you do a google search for Alec Peters you get this guy

      Alec Peters is an American college basketball player for Valparaiso University. Peters, a 6'9" small forward from Washington, Illinois, selected Valparaiso over larger-conference school like Boston College, Missouri and Tennessee.

      But if you do a google search for Alec Peters con man you get

      Alec Peters IMDB site, a link to this kickstarter, multiple links to articles on the lawsuit.

      I'm not making this up Alec, try it.

      Honoring the rules you agreed to when you made this kickstarter, honoring your commitment to the backers and honoring the trust they placed in you and honoring requests for refunds and maybe people would stop seeing you that way.

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      James Edwards on May 23

      @Alec

      I pledged at the $125 level

      $125 level
      Receive all of the rewards up to $ 75 PLUS you get the all new limited edition black USS Ares T-shirt. Printed on the back is the USS Ares patch, and the ships spearhead design on the front.

      $75 pledge level
      instead of the DVD, you get the Special Edition "Axanar" Blu Ray with deleted scenes, vignettes, and special features. This Blu Ray is produced by Robert Burnett, who produces all the Star Trek Enterprise and Next Generation Blu Rays for CBS

      THE CAST
      Richard Hatch "Commander Kharn" (dead)
      Tony Todd as "Admiral Ramirez" (quit)

      I have received NONE of the above rewards. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to deliver the Bluray as you can not make a 90 minute film, one actor is dead and one quit.

      Kickstarter terms of service
      Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill.

      Those are the terms YOU agreed to when you used this platform.

      As far as keeping up to date on your website, I've made it very clear your website is a hate site and was used to encourage people to hurt the actual license owners of Star Trek when they would not allow you to steal there IP and to harasses, bully and abuse everyone who did not agree with your methods.

      Nor should I have to refer to a website I consider a hate site to keep up to date with a project that offered a reward I was supposed to get in 2014 AS PER YOUR WORDS ON THE KS CAMPAIGN PAGE.

      As per the terms and conditions you agreed to I am ENTITLED to a refund and by refusing to do so you are in my opinion a con artist and a fraud.

      I don't care how much time and effort you put into this fraudulent con or how much effort you continue to put into finding more people to dupe out of more money using the Star Trek IP.

      All I care about is that we entered into an agreement, I give you $125 and you give me cool stuff and if you can't give me that cools stuff I get a refund.

      I did not create that agreement, I did not offer those terms, I did not set the timeline, YOU DID.

      YOU agreed to create those rewards, YOU agreed to do so by Dec 2014 (yes I understand you modified it via a stealth update most people, myself included would have never seen to 2015), and most importantly YOU agreed to give refunds if you could not.

      All I did, all I was required to do was give you my trust and $125 based on those conditions.

      You betrayed that trust, you violated the agreement, you've lied, threatened and repeatedly tried to bully me when I ask for the refund I am entitled to as per the agreement YOU made.

      I am NOT the bad guy here.

      YOU ARE.

      As per the terms YOU AGREED TO I am requesting you honor the agreement and furnish me with the refund I am entitled to ASAP.

    37. Steve Creech on May 23

      Tom, Alec has said on more than one occasion that he will issue no refunds under any circumstance.

    38. Steve Creech on May 23

      So besides failing to deliver exactly what the Kickstarter promised (as a result of the lawsuit settlement, refusing to refund donors because you cannot fulfill the terms of the Kickstarter, refusing to admit guilt that you mismanaged donor funds and cannot complete filming of the now reduced 15 minute 2 episodes without raising new funds, and failing to handle interactions with anyone who is critical or has criticized you with any decorum or like a grown adult, you expect us to just smile and thank you for saving Axanar? Hmmm, nope. I supported Axanar for a very long time and I would have loved to see something good come out of it. However, I am now convinced that will never happen with you at the helm, Alec. Especially now that you are encouraging Axanar fans to steal Star Trek copyrights (CBS/Paramount Intellectual Property) and develop their own Axanar "open source" material. Ironic, considering that you were the one that went to CBS and tried to get other fan film productions shut down for violating IP. My donation may have gone up in smoke, but it won't stop me from letting others know how you steal and swindle others. I'm sure I am among the thousands who wish they had never donated.

    39. Tom Ryan on May 23

      not remotely what we paid for. I demand a refund. (no strings attached)

    40. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 23

      UPDATE: Monday, May 22nd, 2017

      The last donors update covered much of what was going on, but I want to make sure you all know about everything that is happening! So here is an update on what is going on.

      AXANAR

      I am currently working on the script for the two 15 minute episodes permitted under our settlement agreement with CBS/Paramount. We are on track to have the first draft done by the end of the month, and I am meeting with Bill Hunt, my co-writer, next week.

      I have already met with the make-up and VFX teams that will be involved in making episodes IV and V of The Four Years War, which along with Prelude to Axanar (Which was episode III) will make an epic Star Trek trilogy you all will love.

      AXANAR PRODUCTIONS

      Finishing Axanar and delivering all the perks to our backers is our top priority moving forward. The production company that we set up to produce Axanar – Axanar Productions – is focused solely on these two goals.

      Once this has been accomplished, Axanar Productions will close down, having finished its mission. Any other work Rob, Diana or I do will be outside the purview of Axanar Productions.

      The bridge set, rebuilt in its new home in Atlanta, Georgia.

      THE SETS

      Because we had to find a new home for the sets built for the Axanar feature film when we vacated Industry Studios, the sets have been transferred to a new company, Rocketworx, which is the lessor of the new studio space in Lawrenceville. Rocketworx is a production company focused on making great genre content and will preserve the sets built for Axanar and make them available for any fan film or film production that wants to use them. Typically a production would destroy its sets after use, but Rocketworx will be taking care of the sets built for the Axanar feature film, finishing them, and allowing other fan films to use them. Rocketworx is all about making great science fiction content.

      OPEN SOURCE AXANAR

      One of the big changes we are making, in order to keep Axanar alive and thriving into the future, is to turn over as much of it as we can to fans. This includes the running of the Axanar Fan Group on Facebook, which has been turned over to a group of fans now running that group.

      Fans are developing comic books, doing animation art and more, all celebrating Axanar. We love it, and are eternally grateful for all of your support. You all are what is keeping the Star Trek we know and love alive and well.

      Alec

    41. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 23

      To the comments by people who haven't bothered to read any updates on our website or ignore the fact that we just got through a 14 month lawsuit. Please go to our webpage to keep updated on what is happening at Axanar.

      www.axanarproductions.com

      And if you are one of those people who are claiming we ripped you off or I am a crook, how about you do some reading before accusing the people who have done nothing but donate 3 years of our lives to this project of ripping you off.

      Read people. And I don't mean to crap you hear on the Internet. Read what we publish which is straight from the professionals working on Axanar. We publish everything. If you don't like that we got sued, well too bad. It cost donors half a million in wasted donor funds and all of us a lot of stress. If you can't understand that, I am sorry, but that isn't our problem.

    42. Axanar Productions 3-time creator on May 23

      Benjamin:

      Please go through Ares Digital. All patches have been shipped to those who have given us their updated info. So you probably didn't go through our fulfillment and digital delivery system.

      http://www.axanarproductions.com/ares-digital-2-0-and-what-you-need-to-do/

      Also, if you have any issues, please contact support@axanarproductions.com and Diana will help you.

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      Benjamin Lu on May 18

      I pledged $75 to this campaign and I have yet to receive the patch that i keep reading about in other backers' comments or anything else for that matter.

    44. Louis L. on May 18

      Canadian credit card banks won't do charge back after 180 days I think, I already spoke to mine, Alec is a crook pure and simple and nobody is doing anything to help us

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      James Edwards on May 16

      @Charlie

      The only way to be removed is to get a refund from the creator at which point you can get kicked from the project.

      That's not happening cause Mr. Con Man Alec is not giving refunds as he is required to by the terms he agreed to when he created the kickstarter.

      If you just want your money back, you can try initiating a chargeback with your credit card vendor but Alec made sure to lie just long enough to the backers to make it unlikely they would issue one.

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      James Edwards on May 16

      Kickstarter says we are entitled to a refund since he can not complete the project.

      But if you scroll down to the disclaimer they also say they won;t do a damn thing to get us that refund.

      Alec knows this and has taken advantage of it to the fullest in executing his fraudulent con.

      Unless someone is willing to fork over the $$$ to hire a lawyer and sue him he gets to steal 1.4 mil, blow it on his hooker girlfriend, a studio for a friend and a set he won't use and go right on using Gene Rodennberrys Star Trek to steal more and more money for stupid fools.

      Worst part is Paramount/CBS are more then happy to keep letting him steal from Star Trek fans, as long as he only makes 15 minute sucky "movies" instead of what was promised.

      Such is kickstarter.

      You can check his twitter account to see how little he actually thinks of his backers.

    47. Cantare on May 15

      @Louis L.

      That shouldn't surprise you. He's not being held accountable and there are no consequences to his being a crook. He squandered everyone's money and couldn't care less.

      It just amazing to see that Kickstarter has also allowed him to get away with it. The guy blew a million and a half bucks, not his own, and hasn't got a single darn thing to show for it or to point to for his donors to look at, except his gross mismanagement and deliberately squandering their money.

      The guy is a disgrace.

    48. Charlie Handy on May 13

      how do i get this piece of shit off my account?

    49. Louis L. on May 12

      Clearly they've abandoned the kickstarter and won't reply or update it since they have strayed far from this and can't even execute any of the goals set in this KS back in aug 2014.

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      James Edwards on April 29

      @Cantare

      They have a picture of the dead actor still listed as playing the Klingon, an actor who quit playing an admiral, plus the other actors who have most likely either moved on or *hopefully* gained the sense to not participate in such a fraudulent POS but the building pic is what sets you off?

      LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!

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