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yea, i don't really care about the money and there's no way I'm ever getting the pan. I just like the challenge now of getting him to respond, to say something - to have a shred of dignity and courage - to just say its over.
Fun thing: if i would start posting the obscenities that come into my mind seeing that we passed 4 years of scheduled delivery and nearly one year since the last update, now, i'd be in bigger problems than this guy who apparently doesn't plan to give us anything in return for our money. Not even a "sorry, i fucked up".
I guess it's Good I only paid $27. Sorry to everyone who paid more.
He was at Tinius Olsen until Feb of this year it looks like, that's in the philly area - so not sure if he's back to virginia or not
13451 Princedale Dr
Woodbridge, VA 22193
I'm in that general area. If anyone has an actual address, I'd be willing to try to contact him. Since I don't have any other information about him and his name is about as common as dirt, I have no idea how to separate him from all the other James Brown's near Philadelphia. I see a James E Brown of Philadelphia who was indicted for child pornography. At least if that were him he'd have a good excuse for not responding. I'm pretty sure getting access to the prison metal shop is hard.
So it appears he's in Philly, or the philly area - simple google search for him in that area will show where he is now. No more information than that, but maybe we paid for his move...
One project I backed has admitted failure, filed for bankruptcy and is issuing refunds of a sort via the courts in Germany. Not sure how much of my 107 euros I will get back on it but at least they are making an attempt. There is currently no Kickstarter vehicle for refunds as it is a one-way funnel for funding.
@Graham - agreed, its so frustrating that these guys don't understand this is a community. I've seen at least 4 other projects where they failed to price out their project correctly and went back to the community. In all but one instance, the community pitched in more to help - i would have done that here 19 years ago when the project started. Yet, he never asked for help.
James dipped in and out and kept teasing he was on it- then disappeared and mysteriously logged in again in March. Nothing worse than passive aggressive silence and plain old hiding.
I wouldn't mind a final post that simply put closure on it..
James wanted to get $7,000 to make some pans. This was probably a reasonable size project for his machine shop to handle; one way or another. Maybe he priced it wrong and would be losing money/time on each one, but the total debt burden would have been manageable.
Instead he got $46,261 and a huge liability. He may not have been prepared to scale out to this level of production. If he was losing money/time on each pan, he now was losing 6-7 times that much money/time.
I could see someone ready to sacrifice every night and weekend for a month getting buried under the idea of doing it for half a year. Maybe he is a victim too, but of his own lack of vision to what he was committing to.
Given it was estimated in January 2013 - i definitely wouldn't bet any money on it. There's so much to like about Kickstarter and scams will of course happen, but Kickstarter has to step up and get proactive on these situations. They need to take some responsibility, it is their platform and they are profiting as soon as the project is funded. They seem to just disappear after that. I've had a couple of projects that were Kickstarter picks that failed- Kickstarter was nowhere to be seen after they got their money, very frustrating. In this case, I think James just got overwhelmed by the job and the community and freaked - not an excuse, the guy is awful, but that's my guess. Who knows, maybe by 2020, we'll have pans.
Ok I'm not, as in currently, going to bet money on it. I gotta be more clear. James is logging in again, so I guess there's still a possibility. I look at this one and a couple others that went bad as a relatively cheap lesson. Unless I can vet the project very well, I'm done with KS. Caveat emptor.
Not sure how he can look at himself in the mirror knowing he lied, cheated, and defrauded 651 people.
He logged in march 20, 2017!!!!!
There is no good
Good or bad we deserve an update by now.
Still waiting :(
This was my first (and last) kickstarter campaign to support. With zero ramifications for someone to steal your money, it seems like a hotspot for scammers like James. I was so excited about this because it was a gift for someone, which I actually gave as a christmas present. (printed out the kickerstarter page.) I guess this is an easy way to con your way into $46k!
James...you already bet money on it by backing this project lol
I would be very happy to learn that someone has brutally murdered James.
Burn in a tire fire you lying thief.
Lol *not* going to bet on it...
I don't know, Drew. I guess I hope for the best in people. Just dropping us is a pretty shit thing to do though, I'll grant you that. It's still possible that James could come back and finish this thing. I'm just gonna bet any money on it.
This dude killed my trust to Kickstarter completely.
Had to do a quick search to see if he was still doing stuff and came across his LinkedIn (he hasn't logged onto kickstarter since September 2016). He last updated his LinkedIn in February 2017 saying his tenure at his last job ended, so he is still alive - whether he is working on the project or not is yet to be seen. Would love to see an update James.
@Jim ...what through this entire process would you give you the impression that he's "better than this"? Ever since this project started he's pretty much been AWOL. It's 4 years now and only 62 updates!
8 months without a word....wow!
James, you're one month late. Oh wait, you're 4 years and one month late. These pans could have gotten a college degree by now. I saw the pictures of the unfinished pans in one of your latest updates. Can you just send me one of those? I'll take it. It'll at least be a conversation piece that I can talk to people about before I DROP DEAD OF OLD AGE. Come on buddy, you're better than this.
This is a story about Morlock and James Brown
A big fat grifter who raised some money then skipped town
Than sit around the house, ignored the emails and our pleas
4 years later we still got no pans, just our money seized
They headed down, to Dragon Co-on
A bunch of us backers warned that they were just scu-um
Kickstarter helped a man acheive his dream
None of us knew it was just a big scheme
Hoo-hoo-hoo, he took the money and run
That thief, he took the money and run
Hoo-hoo-hoo, he took the money and ran
And we still don't have our pans
Update please. I still want my pan, thank you.
FYI, if you file a complaint with the BBB it gives you the physical address you can serve legal papers to.
So June 24 is coming up. I know it seems like a long way off, but in the world of fighting pans and alternative facts, five short months is but the blink of an eye. Whaddya think? Can he go an entire year without making an appearance? Even a meaningless bungee jump Whoa I'm Here Whoa I'm Gone kind of thing?
I'm sure others have done this and I have no expectation of receiving my money back, but I did report Morlock Enterprises to the BBB.
Yea, mag fest is going on now, no morlock there this year. I'm sure its because he's busy making these pans
@Mike Gail aaaaand I'm an idiot, thank you. I don't know why my brain saw "2016" as next year.
Those dates have already passed.
I've emailed www.MorlockEnterprises.com directly and got absolutely nowhere. No response.
But apparently they're going to make appearances at
Magfest - February 18-21, 2016
Dragon*Con - September 2-5, 2016
Magfest is in National Harbor, MD. And that's near me. I'm going to do what I can to bug them there. I suggest you do the same.
Merry Christmas everybody!
James, can we get our 6-month-update now?
4 years ago. So much has changed. Still no regular updates.
Today's XKCD comic is on topic. http://xkcd.com/1772
I'm starting a daily routine of reports.
I kickstarted this scam as a birthday gift for a girlfriend who dumped me almost THREE YEARS AGO, and we still don't even have a vague ETA of when this is a'coming. I've reported you, and will continue to report you, to the Attorney General for Fraud. This is ludicrous.
"Happy Anniversary"...remember how excited we all were 4 years ago? Remember how cool we thought this would be?
I would suggest that all backers use the report this project to kickstarter button at the bottom of the page.
What a scam project.
I want a refund now. I think waiting 4 years is long enough. you dont deserve the money you got.
Well. It's been long enough for me to forget my Kickstarter password. x)
i wonder if someone in the US could actually start a lawsuit against him...? Because i've been told that trying to sue him from my country is kinda pointless.
What's up with this??? STATUS??? It's been almost 4 years since I paid and NOTHING has been produced. I wish I did more research on this. Kickstarter says it does not issue refunds. It kind of makes me sick to see $46,261 was given to this guy and no one has received anything, much less communication!
James! HEY JAMES!! I want my money back.
... Polo :-)