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Crack the bank or defeat the robbers in this asymmetrical, tower defence style cooperative board game for 2-5 players!
- 1 vs Many - Modular - Asymmetrical Perfect Crime is a 1 vs. many game of building and breaking banks set in the modern day.  It’s tense, it’s gritty, it’s multilayered and it’s as authentic to real life bank robberies as we're allowed to make it.
- 1 vs Many - Modular - Asymmetrical Perfect Crime is a 1 vs. many game of building and breaking banks set in the modern day.  It’s tense, it’s gritty, it’s multilayered and it’s as authentic to real life bank robberies as we're allowed to make it.
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    1. Alex Koder on

      So if this is a wash and Perfect Crime is sold to some other company, will backers still get a copy of the game or are we completely hosed?

      Been holding out hope, but with news of offices closing and Mary leaving Grublin in November (not long after the last update) it feels more and more likely that all the game amounted to was some pretty pictures and a rule book. Nothing else and that it would never be ready for backers regardless of funds or time.

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      tony broad on

      I live just up the road from their offices which they ceased paying rent on sometime last year. I’m more than happy to go and knock on doors if some one has a firm address. There is a part of me that’s still hoping that the game will come good but I’m increasingly beginning to think they’ve done a runner. Maybe Bonhommie games can get in touch with Henry again....another update would allay any fears

    3. Nate Hasiak
      Superbacker
      on

      I'd be willing to bet that the money has been spent and they are just delaying with the "illness" story until February. Then they can give us the news that Grublin games is declaring bankruptcy and/or dissolving. Grublin will sell off all it's assets to cover debts and that will include the Perfect Crime IP leaving us with nothing.

      That would be the reason we don't have at least a prototype print and play. If they just released the files to us, even raw, we could put one together ourselves, but they couldn't sell it off if the contents aren't exclusive.

    4. Chris Ford on

      The money is obviously spent. No offer to pay us back.
      Theft

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      Stephen Steels
      Superbacker
      on

      Still no news? There goes my perfect kickstarter record, all but one delivered, I'm still hoping though

    6. Nate Hasiak
      Superbacker
      on

      @inerstrength
      There isn't any competitive component and it seems to be a lot smaller in scale, but I'd check out Burgle Bros by Tim Fowers. There is also an app for it on iOS and Android. https://www.fowers.games/products/burgle-bros

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      inerstrength on

      Well anyone know of a game that would be just as good?

    8. Nate Hasiak
      Superbacker
      on

      Perfect Crime: Ghosting on backers after spending their £22,103

    9. Garth Westphal on

      I'm fairly certain this is a wash. And I just want to say how disappointed I am that the people running this campaign haven't owned up to it. I think it shows some rather poor character traits and would endorse a boycott of any of their future products or endeavors. Not only did they fail, but they failed without style/class.

    10. Jamie Glasgow
      Superbacker
      on

      I see Mary has made a comment on another campaign the other day on 18th December.

      "Is there a realistic date when we can expect our copies? Sorry to say it but I’m beginning to be a bit concerned, having experienced another apparently successful project that never actually materialised."

      While the irony is certainly not lost on me, I think any kind of update from her would be appreciated.

      I'm entirely convinced that we will never see this game. All signs point suggest as much.

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      Andrew on

      If you follow this link you will see that the company has most probably hit a brick wall;

      https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08410455/filing-history

      In fact, one of the directors (Mary) was terminated by herself on the 6th of November 2017, most probably to have no liability once the company declares bankruptcy!

    12. Paul Toderas
      Superbacker
      on

      He most probably had a nervous breakdown. Shame, this had a lot of potential.

    13. Michael Foden
      Superbacker
      on

      How do I update my shipping address?

    14. Garth Westphal on

      No I'm pretty sure it's done. More than likely the kickstarter money is all gone now and if he's been out of service for this long then I'm doubting the company has any funds (I think someone said their offices have shut down). I'd actually be more impressed if they just owned up to it and said "We fucked up, sorry but no game".

    15. Topolino on

      Maybe more info in February 2018 (Update Nr. 20) - if i am right ...

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      Jan Wauters-Schauvlieger
      Superbacker
      on

      any hope this one will get a second life ?

    17. Alex Koder on

      Glad to have an update. I worried that it was something major and likely life threatening.
      I hope he makes a full recovery.
      Knowing that this hasn't been completely forgotten is good to hear.

    18. Alex Koder on

      @Randal Lloyd
      I thought it was just a matter of scanning them into a computer. Good to know though. Thank you.

    19. Randal Lloyd
      Superbacker
      on

      @Alex - Unfortunately, PnP files take just as long to setup (if not longer) than print files. I can't image they would be able to do so.

    20. Alex Koder on

      Really hope Henry is doing better. If we can't get a physical copy is there any chance of a "print and play" version so we can at least still enjoy this game regardless of what happens?
      I know other games released print and play versions and hope that could be a possibility with this.

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      SteJ
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      on

      Nice to hear that contact has been made. Frustrating that it is still not a general communication to all backers.
      The longer the silence goes on the more frustrated people will become.

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      tony broad on

      Hi Cris, thanks for the slightly heartening update.
      Having had my life’s card flipped on more than one occasion I have some idea of where Henry is, that said there are others that are close to him that could have popped online and said what you have just said, be that in here, Twitter or face book or just posted “still no news”.
      I sincerely wish Henry a speedy recovery but surely someone close to him can take some responsibility for occasional coms while he is on that road. It’s a win win situation if they do, Henry doesn’t have to worry about the backers, which is good for his mental well-being, and the backers don’t have to worry bout the games future

    23. Bonhomiegames.uk on

      Hi folks

      Cris here from Bonhomie Games. We are Retail backers of this game, and have traded with Grublin for three years on good terms. We trust the small team that runs Grublin and they've always dealt fairly with us.

      Like you we're backers who want to see a great game come to our gaming table. Like you we are out of pocket, and we also find silence one of the biggest challenges to deal with in this kind of situation.

      Are we happy at this point? No, but life goes on. This is the 29th Kickstarter we've backed, and our fifth major delayed project. From what we've read that is probably a fairly typical ratio, as Kickstarter is not like buying a retail item - it is always to some degree a work of love and a work of art. Sometimes Kickstarters are very late (we have had one that was 2 years late, including a year of complete silence due to ill health) and sometimes they fail (9% according to Kickstarter). Sometimes they nearly destroy even fairly well established companies (Google the story of the Call of Cthulhu Kickstarter by way of an example) and sometimes something truly magnificent arises phoenix-like from the ashes (again, see Call of Cthulhu).

      We like and respect Henry and Rosie, having met them at the UK Games Expo a couple of times, and spoken with them on numerous occasions in the past. Grublin could be a phoenix. We'll have to wait and see.

      The offices are shut, so as Tony has written (below) face to face contact isn't possible. It might sound daft to say it, but they haven't shut the office to cause us bother - the office is shut because the company has some serious, unwanted problems.

      We have had contact with one of the Grublin directors today, however. From the discussion today and those previous to this it is clear that health is a major factor. If you work for yourself, like Jo and I do, you know the impact of ill health on a small business. Also, there are some health issues that mean that sitting in front of a computer keyboard and addressing 600 people who you know are relying on you is too much. You'll either have had that experience, or know someone who has, or you won't - but it happens all the time - perhaps more so in the gaming community than in others. So, like you, we are frustrated. We're not suggesting people are wrong to be cross, or fed up, or angry. But we're also understanding, because but for the turn of a card in the game that is our own life story we could be facing the same challenges as the Grublin team. Right now I'd rather have our challenges than theirs.

      We've reached out to Grublin to offer support and if we can help them in any way, we will. Maybe there will be an update today. Maybe in a month, or three months, or. . . but wishing it different won't change things alas.

      So, we're backers and not empowered or informed enough to give a proper update. What we have been told is that the game is complete. By that we assume it means rules, artwork and so on. We're told the next stage would be printing. We don't know if that requires computer-based layout work first, or if the project is 'print ready'. If we can help Grublin unlock that stage of the project, we will - either directly, or just by being here ready when the team are able to deliver. They certainly want to deliver, and clearly still believe 100% in the project - but wanting things and them being possible don't always coincide.

      All we can say as a fellow backer, to the community here, is that we're sat here ready and waiting, and if and when Grublin are able to move to the next stage of the plan, we're ready to put the gang back together and crack this thing.

      Good gaming to you all

      Cris and Jo.

    24. Kaitlin Montanari on

      Reported. Does anyone want to tell me how I submit a request for a refund? Which I know will ultimately be ignored but, make me feel better.

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      tony broad on

      Well I’m not letting it lay, illness or not.

    26. Jamie Glasgow
      Superbacker
      on

      Not looking good at all. Putting this one down as a project that will never see the light of day and a pledge lost. Such as shame as it looked a promising game.

      Illness or not, the way the backers have been mislead on the projects is absolutely shocking.

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      tony broad on

      Ok further update, the letting steam tried to contact Henry but the number was no longer in service......things are looking gloomier and gloomier

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      tony broad on

      Ok further update, got in touch with the people that manage the business park and grublin games gave up their offices a while back so anyone thinking of getting in touch with them via the number on the website I wouldn’t bother. The person I spoke to wouldn’t give me Henry’s number but did promise to pass on my details. I have asked to pass on the fact that there is a lot of anxious people who want an update. Lets see what happens eh

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      tony broad on

      Simon I don’t think they look at this anymore

    30. Simon Tuckley on

      Hello sorry to message you guys but can we please have some details or a full refund please. Many people are very upset with the way this project has been managed I understand illnesses and other things but there has been a lot of excuses one after another. But we as backers deserve better and deserve the truth and the item we have kickstarted and put out hard earned wages into

    31. Chester
      Superbacker
      on

      #1 Hope Henry is ok.
      #2 Hope this game sees the light of day...someday :)

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      tony broad on

      Ok, visited the industrial park where they are based and although there is still signage up it looked very quiet which is not surprising bearing in mind it’s a Saturday. Next step is to call the owners/managers of the park to see if they are still paying rent

    33. Costa
      Superbacker
      on

      the 448070? :s That's not a good sign. My guess no one will be at the office if you get there tomorrow

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      tony broad on

      Quick update, rang the grublin office today prior to popping down tomorrow and got a “this number is no longer in service” which doesn’t auger well �

    35. Topolino on

      It's all not about delays or anything else - it is ALL about the communitcation.
      As written: no problem to wait another year or two, BUT keep us "up to date" ...

    36. Garth Westphal on

      I've pretty much written this game off.
      Yes games are delayed on kickstarter, most are never on time, but as others have said those project leaders update the masses of supporters instead of just hiding out of shame or guilt.
      I realize mental health is an important issue. I also realize that the world does not stop for those who must deal with it, and as a responsible adult those people should usually attempt to make arrangements so that their commitments to the world at large are met. If he couldn't accomplish this project then he should be handing off the reigns and stepping aside until he feels better.
      Logging on to update me about how there is no update is pointless at this stage. It's quite obvious that this project faltered and he is now either attempting to sell enough pre-orders or other game titles that he can 'get back on track'.

      One thing is certain, he will never again have a successful kickstarter. Of that much I can be certain, unless he somehow manages to change his company name or become a silent party he has pretty much tarnished his reputation.

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      Ben Timpson on

      I completely concur with EVS; clearly this is a bad situation, and things have gone a little bit pear-shaped. I still hope and believe we can get a positive solution out of this, but we might just need to give Henry plenty of time and support while he recovers and can start to dedicate time to this again.

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      Jan Wauters-Schauvlieger
      Superbacker
      on

      Communication is all !!! I would like to get an update. Might be good might be bad news. But at least something to keep the community informed. There's a guy below living 30 minutes from their office ... Pls. check it out & report any findings as everything so far has been a big thumbs down on communication management ...

    39. EVS on

      Grublin games is a genuine publisher. I backed Waggle Dance in the past, and everything from beginning to end was brilliant. The game itself is well worth, and I am happy I backed them. There's no doubt in my mind that these people are stand-up people that are just dealing with this poorly. But I don't think it's because of a lack of good will. My reading of this situation is that it's a desperate and hopelessly depressing one for Henry.

      From the start, this was a much more ambitious project, and I felt like it wasn't ready to the same level as Waggle Dance was. I think to come to Kickstarter when they did considering the progress at that point in time was a big risk, for us and for them. Looking back, I think it's safe to say they weren't ready.

      This will have caused massive problems, and while Henry and his team have proven that they can deliver when they are on top of things, this was of another scale. Being a good PM in that situation is an incredible difficult thing, and I don't doubt that Henry has given it his all. He wants this project to succeed more than any of us. And there is a project - both we (through updates) and others (playtesting) have seen the progress.

      When things start to go wrong, the situation is at risk of spiraling out of control. Delays have big financial impact. Financial issues means cutting staff, which is why I think Rosie no longer responds. Which again causes delays, etc. I think Henry knew this, tried to limit the negative impact for everyone involved. Imagine the stress of running this business and this project when everything goes well. Then add to that financial worries, trying to save everything, having to let go of people because you can't pay (people that you really wish you could keep for your sake and for theirs), taking another job or two trying to stay afloat both as a business and as an individual, etc etc. Actual production and shipment are the last but also the most expensive things. If money ran out, there's simply no way that Henry can make this work without fresh investment.

      All of this would have its toll on anyone, both physically and mentally. These things can cause depression easily, and with that, it's not unusual that there's avoidance of this project. It's not right, it's not logical, but that's depression. The illness is genuine, I don't doubt that, and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't the cause of the state of this project, but the result. Or a bit of both. Either way, I wish you all the best, Henry.

      If Henry is unable to complete the project, there's other things he can do to fulfill his obligations to us. Update us on how funds were used, what the status is, deliver a P&P with everything that he has, sell the game to another company as it is with the clause that they must fulfill backer's rewards. I have had it happen with other projects that I backed, and we all knew this was a risk going in.

      I am not saying this to excuse what's going on. But if I am right, then the possible outcome for all parties involved will only be achieved if Henry does the above. Not admitting this would be a mistake of both parties, creator and backers. Openness and understanding from all sides is the only way forward.

      Or I could be wrong and Henry has retired and moved to a tropical island enjoying cocktails. If so, I am equal parts upset with him and admiring him. Upset is obvious. Admiring because to me it seems like an impossible task with just 22k.

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      SteJ
      Superbacker
      on

      I'm inclined to believe the illness is genuine but other members of grublin have made official announcements in the paat so I see no reason why they cant update with something.

    41. Nate Hasiak
      Superbacker
      on

      @Scott

      I doubt there is any money left.

      If I had to guess, Henry overspent on Art or payroll at Grublin by delaying for 11 months, and now doesn't have enough money to get the game printed (If it is, in fact, finished, as some claim. I seriously doubt it, they haven't followed through on anything else yet. Why start now?).

      I'm starting to smell BS with this illness excuse at this point. The illness that has somehow prevented him from updating us, but not logging into Kickstarter, seems a little too convenient.

    42. Scott Owen Lucas
      Superbacker
      on

      I just requested a refund. Not feeling confident I’ll even get a reply.

      Are there any genuine legal avenues we can take?

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      Andrew on

      When compared to the other campaigns I have supported, this is a complete joke, the creator doesn't even have the decency to stand up and be counted.

    44. Nate Hasiak
      Superbacker
      on

      So, Henry Jasper's last login was October 12th, 2017. It's been over four and a half months since his last post. He's well enough to log into Kickstarter, but not well enough to give us a few sentacnes for an update?

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1811420414/perfect-crime-a-cooperative-heist-game-for-2-5-pla/creator_bio

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      SteJ
      Superbacker
      on

      I did drop them a facebook message a week or so ago and had no response.
      It's a real shame that the communication is really bad. No news is a lot worse than bad news :(

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      tony broad on

      I only live 30 mins from their office so I’m intending to pop down within the next week or so to check if there’s life

    47. Nicholas Troy Tsangaris on

      Alright this ridiculous. I'm reporting the project to kickstarter and suggest you all do the same.

      I understand that kickstarter cannot issue a refund, but if enough people report this then hopefully kickstarter will start putting pressure on the creators to give us something, whether that be an update, the product, an explaination, anything.

      I am extremely disappointed by how the creators have chosen to treat us backers. We all pledged money for a game we were excited about and patiently waited through delay after delay. Enough is enough.

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      tony broad on

      Please see my response from kickstarter

      Hi Tony,

      Thanks for reaching out and sorry to hear about the frustrating experience you've had with this project.

      Each project on Kickstarter is an independent work by a creator. They receive payment directly at the end of a successful funding period in order to fund their project and fulfill rewards. That money never actually passes through our hands — we only receive a small fee.

      If you’d like to see if a refund is possible, we recommend reaching out to the creator directly. If you don't hear back from the creator after a bit, feel free to follow up with another message or comment. It's possible the creator is responding to many messages from backers, along with trying to work on their project and fulfilling rewards, so it can take a while to hear back.

      If you’ve already tried that and haven’t received a response through Kickstarter messaging, you might want to consider reaching out through other channels such as social media or the creator’s own website, where available.

      As funds are disbursed directly to the project creator, we're unable to facilitate refunds. That said, I hope that this matter is resolved soon and am here to help if you have any other questions or concerns.

    49. Az I. on

      I hope Henry gets well soon but as harsh as it sounds, making him a single point of failure is poor project management. Do you guys need help with PMing?

      I’m confident this product will be released (the work done to date *seems* to be far too elaborate for a scam for a boardgame!) but some official comms wouldn’t hurt.

      Is Henry unwilling or unable to delegate production and delivery by any chance? (Sorry, risk management hat on).

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      ryan mucklin
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      on

      I also submitted a ticket to kickstarter about 2 weeks ago I haven’t heard anything yet.

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