by Mantic Games
Just so i get this straight: the stretch goal unlocked the Helfather, but he is not a part of the pledge levels? You still have at add the +$8 regardless of what you have already pledged ? (Unlike the Survivor.)
Just a question do the early bird strike teams also get the deluxe mats asit says strike team $150?
Is the Helfather figure metal, resin, or plastic?
If you want to a desert or a jungle etc you can just add dots that are not to obvious at a glace but clear when they are what your looking for at the corners of each grid square. The other way would be to mark the corners with a small rock or something.
@ Butcher Yes! I love how he turned out. He was a bit of a struggle, just because I had never drawn a goblin, let alone a Mantic goblin before! I'm really proud of how he turned out :D
@ Massimo Thanks again. A whole faction full of Teratons would be fun/terrifying to fight!
@ David Delayed response, but yep, he's evil like Mantic said. And glad you like the sniper!
The Helfather is awesome! Please do more Abyssal Forgefathers!
After all, there's lots of potential with Loki and his kids to draw inspiration from!
And if possible, could you do all three heads? The unused ones would make excellent conversion bits for Abyssal FF squad leaders.
Great figure!!!! It would be great to see more Helpals :)
Sweet! That will definitely work for a heavy armor huscarl. More FF's please!
Heldaddy looks uber awesome, it be cool to get additional arms with different poses/weapons/accessories for this character and other figures. Add-ons or stretch goals, No? Like that one big thingy that has an extra 2 thingies and does that thing that looks cool.
@Damien, they can not give everything away, look at Ogre they will lose money on there KS when it finally comes out, this has been well balanced
@James, it looks like he is an extra, short stretch goal, but well worth it
ok - caved in and upgraded my pledge to the Strike Team! Really wanted the better mat - but for the extra few quid this is a better deal! And still 30 days to go! And I agree with Matt, Joseph and others - enclosed helm looks so cool!
Yes, this is what I've been waiting for... the Helfather gives us the first hint of what Forge Guard might look like, and so far I like what I'm seeing. Hoping for more Forge Fathers before too long.
Is he an extra only, or is he included in Strike Team?
enclosed helmet please...... that is all :)
@Mantic Submitted for you to consider:
The other guys who run Kickstarter campaigns in the same format you've adopted make Add-On Goals more exciting for those who have pledged by offering something extra if the stretch is met. A free zombie version of the model if we meet the goal. etc... You could do something like offering optional non-helmeted heads or weapons. Touches like this make it seem a little less like the goal is just the opportunitiy to give you more money. I know it's all just perspective. Maybe the deal is the $8 the figure costs and he will retail for $14 in the real world. I don't have a clue. I'm just voicing what makes me excited if a goal isn't a free addition.
Really looking forward to the alpha rules today!
@tom. You will have 2x4. Think you need the $55 for a 4x4 table buddy
Smartest "freebie" ever.... because it makes me raise my pledge by $20 to make a 4x4 table. That said, it's the best looking 4x4 table I've ever bought for $20!!! Keep up the great work!!!
I'm loving the Helfather, but please, please, please keep the fully enclosed helmet on. Yeah, that's right three pleases in there! The open faced ones just don't look good.
@John Austin, yes it does! :-D
More Mats and more Forge Fathers!
And the Helfather is awesome.
A series of branching narratives based on the winner and loser of each mission would be awesome.
Abyssal Forge Fathers for the win! I hope (like John Doe) that this fellah will be a taster of a bigger force. Would love to see an AFF army for Warpath!
Doesn't the bearded head look a bit like Brian Blessed....?
+1 for more mats... and +1 for a Teraton Faction.... and +1 for Namelss... hell, just +1 for everything, I've seen just about 0 bad ideas.
As for desert tiles, if they were done as a normal mat but with dunes creeping into a once civilized area, it might work and still give an unobtrusive grid?
Would love to see different terrain mats and scenery sprues - but how about offering the better quality mat to lower level pledgers as a stretch goal first? Either way - I really can't wait for this set! May have to up my pledge to get the quality mat, but the wife may need convincing first! Keep up the good work, Mantic!
I was hoping for a gorilla with an BFG, but the Forge Father looks pretty sweet. Will he have a two head option, mask or no mask? And if you looking for a second round of factions I hope you consider The Nameless and Simians, because who doesn't want to see a macaque with a sniper rifle?
+1 for more uber incredible mouse mats! ;)
I definitely think a desert one would look good the only worry is how you would make the grid pattern unobtrusive- it works for concrete slabs but it'll be considerably more tricky with a desert
Speaking of models needing friends... Any chance on some other goblin/stunts making an appearance for the marauders...? Goblin gunslinger, suicide stunt, stunt bot???
In that case I NEED to up my pledge and I NEED him to have friends- please please please!
Would love different terrain matts and different faction terrain particularly asterians and forgefathers please
@ David - He's as evil as the art portrays! A sinister agent of the ruling Forge Father class gone renegade...
Also thanks for the goblin sniper- it looks brilliant
@ Heath and @Mantic
Is the Helfather as evil as the art portrays or is he a good old fashioned forge father?
IMHO theres only one thing better than a dwarf in space- and thats an evil dwarf in space!
Who is manufacturing those mats? I'd love to get a custom one made for this :D
RE: new matt designs - parched desert or a heavily indystrial area would work well I feel. Maybe I've just become too attatched the fort defence game from Salute (soon to be open day too). An isolated out post fighting off continuous waves of plague....hmmm.
@ at Heath Foley: nice explanation. That quiets down my worries.
And you deserve the compliment: you are the "art-daddy" of my favourite alien race ever.
Boy, I just love Teratons. If Mantic is not making a Teraton faction I'll just houserule and convert one. ;)
@Heath - that goblin sniper is the reason I pledged :)
@ Massimo + Kingledge + Donnie - the Helfather is an add-on for every pledge :)
@ Daniel - don't worry about the broken images, they are just the add-on image that's already included in the update. The updates page was being difficult...
@ Legione - Forge Fathers are coming >:D
@ Craig - Manticanium >:D Seriously though, it's a similar material to what mouse mats are made from. It's awesome.
@ Massimo The idea was from Mantic, but I thought it was fantastic, and really enjoyed creating that design. I think the issue people are having is with the term "Brawler", it makes you think about a raggedy fist fighter who is as smart as a rock. This is just my opinion, but just because you engage in close combat doesn't your a brainless thug. I honestly would be scared out of my mind if the Teraton Brawler was real and coming after me...think about it, a massive creature with a genius level IQ that also knows how to fight? Oh, and he can teleport. I might as well just quit right then and there...Anyhow, thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it!
Additional mat designs are very interesting if they have a purpose. In fact, I'd be very excited about rules for different terrain features regardless of what you do with mat designs. Purely aesthetic design alternatives is less attractive. (I.e. inspiration for creating custom Deadzone landscape is good ^^)
What feels more important, however, is a model sprue for counters (the weapon crates etc)! IMO
The Helfather looks awesome. Can you confirm he is an add-on for every pledge (and the survivor is free with strike instead).
@ at Heath Foley: why the Teraton has been made a "brawler". Where the idea/input come from? It does sound quite different from the bg for the race in DB.
Keep up the awesome job. ;)
Oh, I was hoping the Helfather guy would be a freebie. Well, I'll have time to think about it.
I'm one of the concept artists who is working on Deadzone. So far, I'm responsible for all of the Rebels, the Goblin Marksman, the Helfather, the Teraton Brawler, and a heap of other designs that you haven't seen...yet :D I've also done work on Dreadball (Teratons/Zee's/Cheerleaders/A few MVP's) and Kings of War (Basilean's/a few Heroes). I ended up backing this project myself, it just looked too damn fun not to.
Anyhow, if you guys have any questions for me, or just want to pick my brain, feel free! I'll do my best to respond to them when I'm not buried in requests from Mantic or trying to finally get some sleep.
Might just be pictures at my end but I cant seem to load up two of the images. As such I have no idea if this guy will be a paid stretch goal or an add on to my recon pledge, nor what the stretch goal is set for for him?
Core concept looks great - will he be available with Strike Team or add on only?
Awesome just awesome, @mantic will abyssal firge farthers be a distinct race or is this guy a rouge pirate?
No need for alternate heads, the main concept is badass, very nice.
Oh yes I am very keen on additional mats, this would be especially important for those buying multiples.
(re: additional mat designs): Personally I'm quite keen on some variety in presentation among mats but would prefer not to have special rules for them.
Having typed that a water feature with rules would be nice :)
would it be possible to have the forge fathers faction deck as next stretch goal?
many players in my gaming group would love to be able to play with the forge fathers, if you can't make new ff miniature could you at least make the rules to play with them?