Funded! This project was successfully funded on October 13, 2012.

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      Creator Chris Leathco about 4 hours ago

      Not sure if it's a fake or not, but I haven't gotten a reply either.

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      Creator Ryan 1 day ago

      I didn't receive a response. I'm assuming it's fake.

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      Creator Charles Matthew Escobar 2 days ago

      So has anyone that has requested a refund from icp2refund@gmail.com received a response or email back from them about the refund process?

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      Creator Matt Wiseman 5 days ago

      Isn't representing yourself as a LLC and not being an LLC a felony or some such? Methinks it's really time to get law enforcement involved.

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      Creator Skylead on April 10

      @Ryan, hmm the plot thickens

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      Creator Ryan on April 7

      I was contacted by the Attorney General of Vermont today. They said that they cannot find Product 3 LLC and Mark Linkhorst. I gave them the address listed on this page as well as ithic. Either all inquiries are being rejected or these mail stops are fronts.

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      Creator dddmaster on April 2

      1700 comments :D

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      Creator Matt Wiseman on April 1

      yeah, Craig's name isn't on this project. Product 3 LLC is.

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      Creator Ryan on March 31

      Watch that get deleted. Which is funny because he is legally selling it for medicinal purposes.

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      Creator Ryan on March 31

      Because it did. Mark's not out until the law says he's out. He just doesn't want bad publicity for the other products he's selling. Remember, it's 4:20 somewhere.

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      Creator Matt Wiseman on March 31

      is it just me or does the latest update read like "Bla bla bla. We're out.. talk to Craig"

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      Creator Craig on March 28

      Updates please on refund process.

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      Creator Piotr Domanski on March 25

      You even posted it yourself on Sep 21, 2013 :)

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      Creator Piotr Domanski on March 25

      @Ryan
      Joseph Victor

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      Creator Ryan on March 24

      Which guy? Craig's never in one place very long. If you show up at Link's doorstep, maybe he can refund you in Mcigg's. He's certainly good for it.

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      Creator Levi Morton on March 24

      I am surprised no one has shown up at thus guys house to "clear things up" and "clarify problems".

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      Creator Ryan on March 18

      If we don't start seeing some real results on here Mark Linkhorst, by association, may start showing up in those search results.

      By the way, what does the JV stand for?

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      Creator Ryan on March 18

      That may involve buying a domain name.

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      Creator Adam R on March 17

      @Ramboky - we should to push harder to get "Craig Rothwell" as well high enough in SERP ;)

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      Creator ramboky on March 16

      @Adam I did a quick google of "Craig J V Rothwell", results 2, 3 and 4 all mention scams and/or fraud. I think it's safe to say that goal has already been achieved.

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      Creator Ryan on March 15

      Kickstarter's response to my BBB complaint was a copy/paste from their terms of service. So they completely ignored the issue at hand. I marked it as unresolved and I'm going to press on until I get a real response to my complaint.

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      Creator Ryan on March 15

      He's never results my emails or twitter direct messages.

      Link wouldn't even consider giving me a refund in ithic.com store credit so I could buy a gcw-zero handheld. That really shows how much faith he has in us ever getting refunds.

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      Creator Ryan on March 15

      @Ben - The most you will get out of Craig is a lousy joke. It would be the same as calling him.

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      Creator Adam R on March 14

      BTW. Maybe we should to do reverse ORM for Craig J V Rothwell? Who is going to hire him in the future when he will come as #1 for 0.25M USD scam?

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      Creator Adam R on March 14

      Got PhoneJoy - is not iCP2 but solid piece of a hardware.

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      Creator Ben Lorenz on March 14

      DM'd Craig on Trip Advisor... watch this have more direct impact in me getting a refund than all the direct messages to KS and Link (not that it would be too hard to trump that, they have all amounted to NOTHING).

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      Creator Craig on March 12

      @Ryan seems he's getting drunk at Amsterdam hotels. That's definitely him as their is reviews for Newcastle upon Tyne where his business activities once operated from and its the same name.

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      Creator Ryan on March 11

      Apparently Craig moved to Amsterdam.
      http://www.tripadvisor.com/members/craigix

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      Creator Ryan on March 11

      I contacted Kickstarter last year and heard their copy/pasted response of how they will contact the management of the project. It's BS. They have this automated email system setup where it emails out notifications that the manager still hasn't delivered a product. Other than that, they will do nothing.

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      Creator Craig on March 11

      Pointless contacting Kick starter; They don't give a shit. However since Kickstarter have 5% of backers money, they are now involved in criminal activity of handling stolen money along with Project 3 LLC. The lawyers are soon coming aknockin' at both of their doors and I'm not going to sit on my ass and do nothing until I've exhausted every avenue.

      Let's see what shit Project 3 LLC have to say to us in the next update - hopefully it doesn't involve Craig speaking through Project 3 like a ventriloquist's doll.

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      Creator Ben Lorenz on March 11

      I contacted Kickstarter for a second time, and this time they said they would contact the curator on the behalf of the backers. While I don't think this is worth the whole 5% fee they have taken, it is a nice first step. So I'm willing to wait just a little before going to the BBB on KS just yet - hopefully hearing from some 'authority' with do something to move along our refunds.

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      Creator Ryan on March 10

      Here's there BBB profile. See the link to the right. http://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/business-reviews/professional-fundraiser/kickstarter-inc-in-new-york-ny-137092

      Email me if you want to see what I submitted as a basic submission.

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      Creator Ben Lorenz on March 8

      Hi Ryan, mind giving us all a link to the complaint form with the BBB? And maybe the rough outline of information you provided? I would love to get more fire underneath the feet of these scam artists, and everything I try just seems to be a dead-end.

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      Creator Ryan on March 8

      I have filed a complaint with the BBB against Kickstarter. Since they are not performing their due diligence in pursuing this project which they still host, I feel they are legally obligated to refund me their service fee that was collected at the time of the project's funding. Their fee is 5% on all funds collected. They should refund each of us 5% of our payments for their lack of making Product 3 LLC adhere to their terms of service.

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      Creator Craig on March 7

      Time to hound Kickstarter. Get your arses onto their Facebook page to blow this issue of fraud onto their Facebook page:-

      https://m.facebook.com/profile.php…

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      Creator Ryan on March 5

      Make sure to post on the same topic on the kickstarter Facebook page. I don't think the masses care about Google+.

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      Creator Matt Wiseman on March 5

      Posted. I'm the cartoon skull.

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      Creator Craig on March 3

      Get your arses over to Kickstarter Google+ community. Kickstarter are right now boasting how they reached $1 billion. Have your say HERE:

      https://plus.google.com/118239121095465976293/posts/KuU9ck6d5Z7

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      Creator Craig on March 3

      http://bayimg.com/mAkDcAafL

      ... and thanks a billion for Kickstarter aiding the criminal underground and taking their slice of the pie and not giving a shit in investigating fraudsters.

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      Creator ramboky on March 3

      The legal relationship between Link and Craig is irrelevant. That's for Link to worry about. Your legal relationship is with Product 3 LLC.

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      Creator Ryan on March 3

      I'm willing to bet the agreement is a combination of verbal and private messages on the OpenPandora forum system. I highly doubt there is a legal binding contract between both parties.

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      Creator Adam R on March 3

      That wasn't two ppl show - no Batman and Robin only one Superman show - Craig R so we should to pursuit legal way using agreement between Mark and Craig, and I can bet there must be something, other way it means that Link was naive.

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      Creator Craig on March 2

      Better get on with the refunds - lawsuits and legal action are heading your way sonny. I shall be fighting tooth and nail to deal with these people. I urge everyone else to join in !

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      Creator Ryan on March 1

      Things are still active on OpenPandora forums. I'm winding down my posting over there. By splitting the discussion between there and here, they are only making more leg work for legal workers in having to sift through everything.

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      Creator Drammurt on March 1

      @Ryan - Nice to see that you have filed a complaint. I'm following several routes one of which is the Attorney General. I have had contact with the Office of Vermont Secretary of State last year, but didn't file a complaint yet to give the project a chance to finish the project. I will file a complaint in a few days.

      It would be nice if more people who want a refund would file a complaint. It's been more than 3.5 months since the cancellation of the project and we haven't heared anything usefull from Product 3 LLC or Mark Linkhorst. Also he's not responding to e-mails or personal messages on Kickstarter.

      Just go to http://www.uvm.edu/consumer/ and click the "File or update a complaint"-button on the top and fill in the online complaint form. It will only take a few minutes.

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      Creator Ryan on March 1

      I received a letter today (snail mail) from the Attorney General of Vermont's consumer complaints division. They are in the process of contacting Mark Linkhorst. There's a 7 day waiting period before they pursue further actions.

      @Drammurt - He's been ignoring my messages too, up until recently when I pushed for a response on OpenPandora Forums. He responded to that, although I doubt he will respond over here on Kickstarter where the discussion should be held.

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      Creator Drammurt on February 28

      Hey guys, I gave Mark Linkhorst an ultimatum to refund me before the 1st of March 00:00 GMT and that ultimatum just passed. In june 2013 he explicitely promised me that he would refund me, which he did not. I have been polite in my e-mails to him, but he never answered any of my e-mails since then. I was advised to give him one more chance to refund, but that was another waste of time. His lies are piling up and because he's neglecting his customers, he has turned his kickstarter project into a scam/theft of an estimated $ 204.045.

      My patience with and trust in Mark Linkhorst is gone and I'm going to take actions to try to get our money back. I'll keep you updated.

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      Creator Ryan on February 27

      @Ben - Glad to hear there's some progress being made.

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      Creator Ben Lorenz on February 27

      @Ryan - I received a call from the CAP office of Vermont, they were incredibly helpful. I suggest anyone else that wants to make an impact also open a filing through their online form submission process against Mark Linkhorst and Product 3 LLC via this link: https://www.uvm.edu/consumer/…

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      Creator ramboky on February 27

      @Paul No one voted for backlighting. A handful of people posted comments saying that's what they wanted and Craig decided to go for it, it certainly wasn't a democratic process. And ultimately it was Craig's responsibility as the project creator to decide if it was viable or not. He made a bad decision, one that should have been obvious to anyone with even a little project management experience. That aside, I doubt we'd be seeing our ICP2s even without the backlighting. They weren't ready for manufacturing in Oct 2012 like Craig claimed and he never even ordered the nubs, which were required whether we had backlighting or not. He lied throughout the project and I have no doubt he's lying in his latest "update".

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