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Enter the world of Myth. A fully cooperative fantasy game, featuring dynamic hobby quality miniatures.
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Trust & Patience, or: How I Learned to Get Out of the Way and Let the People You Are Paying to Do Things Do Them.

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Grant Me Serenity, part 1

We understand there has been quite the hubbub here as of late, hehe. We sympathize. It has been a roller coaster here as well. It appears as though you had just about ran out of patience. I know I had. I was very harsh with them a couple weeks ago, unjustly so.

Let me start by saying the games arrive at our shipper’s Indy hub, Wednesday February 26th. After they arrive, we schedule the two containers for delivery to our warehouse: we have a window of four work days (Feb 27-March 4). We have roughly 2-3 hours to unload each container.

Flush with relief and brimming with optimism, you would be right in wondering what had happened that the games are being delivered a month late. We don’t know all the details, but we do know that the games were not going to be let through San Francisco. Ever the resourceful ones, our shippers removed them and sent them up and through Vancouver.

There are many things we don’t know about the shipping process but what I know is that if our shipper BDP hadn’t been proactive in finding a solution, we would very likely still have games sitting in San Francisco customs and this update would be much different. It is why we work with them. The delay wasn’t ideal, but it was much better than the alternative.

Grant Me Serenity, part 2

I have been told (in no uncertain terms) that you all have never seen a couple of the models finished. Sorry to keep you waiting, thanks for your patience.

Lairs and Traps.
Lairs and Traps.
Urulok the young.
Urulok the young.
Rat King
Rat King
Etrus
Etrus
Agents
Agents
Male Archer Hero
Male Archer Hero
Donnchadh
Donnchadh

Grant Me Serenity, part 3

After the games are safely snugged away in the warehouse (I’ll snap some pictures and do another update), we’ll start filling base game orders. And yes, we are still going to have to fill base game orders. The issues that forced it before are still in place. We will fill domestic orders for the base game starting the day after we have brought the games in. It will be interesting to see how many of the orders we can fill per day. We have estimated 200-500/day depending upon people present. Regardless, when your base game ships you will receive an email and tracking info. I am sure people will begin posting about how they received emails their game has shipped. We’ll be moving as fast as we can, please be patient.

We expect to be deep into fulfillment for two weeks.

If you have not, I would suggest any backers double-check their shipping address this week. These are the last days to update addresses. We can still change addresses: email changes to danika@mercsminis.com

Grant Me Serenity, part 4

We also plan to launch MegaCon Games next KS during the month of March. It is called MERCS: Recon. It is a fully cooperative game in the MERCS world. The game will launch with game rules and how to play videos. It has been ready for a bit now, but we wanted to start shipping Myth before we launched it. Every delay in shipping pushed Recon back further and tested our patience more.

MERCS Recon
MERCS Recon

In the end, we are very glad to have waited. We want our past, present, and future backers to trust we can fill our first KS before they double-down on our second. We’ve learned a bunch from the Myth KS. Let’s face it, Myth ended up being 5 times the size originally planned. We tried to be on time, but failed. We have already setup the Recon KS to be more streamlined and much easier to understand.

MERCS: Recon
MERCS: Recon

If you are a Myth backer you will be getting an update in early March that directs you to Recon.

Grant Me Serenity, part 5

Keith and wife are still pregnant. She is now four days overdue. As I said, I am sure it is setting up to happen the day we schedule the first shipment. They are extremely excited but have just about ran out of patience.

Epilogue

We know these last four weeks have been tough for us all (backer, creator, and potential father alike) but sometimes you have to trust. When I used that word last week, some people pushed back saying we have not earned any trust because we have delivered nothing. I would argue that is the very meaning of trust. We have kept you informed every step of the way, inviting you into the process like very few KS projects. It is simply the way we work. You can expect the same process with Recon. In essence, that is what KS is about. If you trust in the product and the people, you back it. As the first Myth KS is winding down, we hope you feel your trust has not been misplaced. And we trust we’ll see you over in the Recon KS.

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    1. Grinsevent Wheresluggage of Sin on March 5, 2014

      @Brian It should arrive in April (as for eveyone in Europe)
      @Andreas maybe because it interests a lot of their backers ?

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      Andreas Johansson on March 3, 2014

      Now why would you even talk about another game to make advertisement when your other game which we actually fund is being delayed? I dont mind waiting, but please keep your other games out of THIS KS.

    3. Jonathan Patterson on March 2, 2014

      Not yet. They said that it could be as late as the fourth before they actually had the shipment in their warehouse. An update will follow afterwards.

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      Andrew Sekela
      Superbacker
      on March 2, 2014

      So has anyone said whether the games arrived at MERCS' warehouse? The update said it was supposed to arrive at the shipping hub on the 26th, but would be nice to get confirmation as to its arrival at MERCS (since there were some significant shipping delays already).

    5. Brian Moran on March 2, 2014

      when should we expect delivery in the uk?

    6. Paireon, lumberjack of Brimstone
      Superbacker
      on March 1, 2014

      Sometimes I'm under the impression that people willing and able to be patient and understanding are vanishingly rare these days (yes, I am talking about other backers).

      Other than that, great update. Best wishes to Keith and wife, and count me in for Recon (with all the fantasy/horror stuff I'm getting, a bit more sci-fi would help balance it a bit).

    7. Thomas Watson on March 1, 2014

      Yet another well written informative update! Really looking forward to this game ^^

    8. Jonathan Patterson on February 28, 2014

      MERCS Recon

      Estimated delivery: Jan 2115

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      Vincent Noiseux
      Superbacker
      on February 27, 2014

      One question remain: Will there be a typo?

    10. C on February 26, 2014

      @Darren: Oh, I'm just saying that I think MERCS is doing a better job than CMON with post-KS fulfillment, though CMON is doing just fine compared to other KS I've backed. CMON *is* handling four different KS at the same time, while MERCS is only handling one.

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      Kevin Bates on February 26, 2014

      Lol at all the people who still think backing a KS project is the same as being a customer at a store. Its not, and anyone who still thinks it is would be better off waiting until a game is available at their FLGS so they can pick it up in person.

      On MERCs Recon: I notice some actual merc figs being used to play a non mercs game. Will we see resculpts, rereleases or possibly plastics of the Megacons we've all come to know and love? I was really expecting the mercs project to be MERCs 2nd Edition, so an unrelated board game has caught me off guard.

      Please don't go the way of PP and spend tons of development time doing little wacky board games in the setting of your main game which could use a new main book.

    12. DAJ1974 on February 26, 2014

      @C what does ZC2 have to do with anything?? was asking about the new KS as i cant afford both .. i had no problems with my ZC2 delivery etc ..

    13. Titus K. Tsimonjela on February 26, 2014

      I don't know what the complaints could be about zombicide 2 I thought I got that just fine. The only thing that may stop me from Z3v is just not wanting to have too much of one game.

    14. C on February 26, 2014

      @Darren: Read the comments in the CMON Zombicide 2 forum about how they're handling delivery. I might still back Z3, but MERCS seems to be doing a better post-KS job than CMON.

    15. Wraithcopy
      Superbacker
      on February 26, 2014

      I trust you guys and i'll keep the faith.
      I will definitely be investing in Recon.

    16. DancingGolem on February 25, 2014

      I've invested in over 100 Kickstarter projects (check my profile), and I have to say that everything about how you handled this Kickstarter has been phenomenal. Myth has been one of my most anticipated projects, and the one I trust most to deliver in every way.

      From the excitement of the campaign to the quality of updates and responses; you've done a fantastic job.

      Time to bring it home.

    17. DAJ1974 on February 25, 2014

      guys any chance of a rough idea when the recon KS will start???? now the CoolMiniOrNot KS is up i only have so much money .

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      Johan Krüger Haglert on February 25, 2014

      Also as for the Mercs game I've always been quite interested in the original MERCS.

      My interest for such a game would raise immensely if compatible models was used and there was also game content (read cards I suppose) to play the actual MERCS game with the same miniatures :)

      Two games in one! :)

      I know the Dungeon & Dragons board-game and what is it call? Dungeon commander? Use compatible characters, possibly maps and cards to integrate the new stuff in the old game. AFAIK they also work for actual D&D too. Guess it attract people already invested in some other of your products :)

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      Johan Krüger Haglert on February 25, 2014

      Personally I'm not bothered at all with any delays. I have no rush with any games.

      Or well, I would like to play Netrunner and I'm sure if I put in an order I would wish it was here "already" but I'm cheap and it can easily take months for me to decide what to get and where from to get it to get a good deal and get to know the product so.. Yeah. No real rush :). Guess I should remember I'm mortal and have limited time for enjoying life and playing games :D

    20. default_player on February 25, 2014

      Although it's already a bit late: I go with what dajebriza said. You guys totally rock. Thank you, that you deal with the worst, to bring us the best... Serenity granted.

    21. Bernardo A. Gonzalez on February 25, 2014

      Thanks for the update. I'd be interested in your new project, but let's see this one first :) BTW: Would the figurines be painted, or raw as they are?

      BAG

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      Ashes on February 25, 2014

      Regarding the Lairs and Traps the 275k stretch goal of the campaign says "one of each sculpted lairs and traps". So, this means we get all the ones shown on the picture of this update? That would be awesome!

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      östen on February 25, 2014

      uh and the pledgemanager is still up which might be a problem?

    24. Justin on February 25, 2014

      Sefadu player here! Can't wait to hear more about recon! And I can't wait to play myth!

    25. Hubert on February 25, 2014

      wow, month or two later. big deal.

      THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE BABY IS OK. Keith`s, mine, yours.
      Box full of plastic and paper can wait. Really. We probably got tons of stuff to play with and paint anyway.

      peace. love

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      östen on February 25, 2014

      For me your sudden silence got me worried for the mother - my best wishes for you all

    27. Rand Chua TL on February 25, 2014

      For the 3894 backers Pledge $100 or more it's super early. Due to Estimated delivery state : Jan 2015 :p
      "Captain Level - 1 Copy of Myth + 1 special promo Razorfiend Mini-boss miniature! (Stretch Goal rewards start here.)"

      Add $13 USD to ship outside the US

    28. Vhalantru on February 25, 2014

      Huh? It's late?
      I don't understand, I have been backing kickstarters for 2 or 3 years now and it very simple. The estimated release isn't a set date. If it's a month late or 6 months late, that is perfectly fine with me so long as it arrives eventually.

      The game is looking great and I can't wait for it. RECON looks interesting and I will wait to hear more info on it.

    29. Sjeng on February 25, 2014

      Cool pictures!! THanks :D

      About the trust: I see no reason NOT to trust you guys, which is why I backed. Plus the game looks amazing, and I want it :P

      I won't be backing RECON though, but that has nothing to do with trust. It has to do with already having way too many games to play, and not enough time to play them.
      Myth was kinda stretching it already, next to Zombicide, Mice & Mystics and HeroQuest.
      (The original HQ mind you, NOT the GameZone reboot of HQ25th. Now THAT is a company I DO NOT TRUST.)

      Game on!

    30. Erik CF
      Superbacker
      on February 25, 2014

      Honestly, I'm fine with the delay, solely because I just got Netrunner. I HAVE TOO MUCH GAME TO GAME ALL THESE GAMES.

    31. Will Buckingham
      Superbacker
      on February 24, 2014

      Haha, only a month late and people are upset... I guess they must not participate in many Kickstarter projects. I've got a couple I've very nearly written off at this point due to such massive delays, and one of them was considerably expensive. I look forward to seeing the game when it arrives.

    32. Donny Behne on February 24, 2014

      I reeeeeeally want more info on Recon. Those look like two different starter boxes featuring two different factions (one of which is EU INC!??!?!). Come on, Brian! The KS may not be loose, but surely some bonus info is available!

    33. Amber Palace Games on February 24, 2014

      Personally I think you guys had a tough push with all the extra content. I think you are doing a great job trying to get it in right now. Keep up the good work and don't you worry I am patient

    34. Michael Kessler on February 24, 2014

      thanks with the update every thing looks great i love the pics and all i could think when i saw Urulok the young was if hes young will he be getting older because that could make for an interesting model let alone the tales you coud spin about a growing dragon

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      João Pedro Matos Neves on February 24, 2014

      Just one more in the long list wanting to express how happy i am both with the looks of the game and the way you have been running this kickstarter... Thank you again for your profissionalism and comunication. Can't wait to have the game on my hands, Best regards from Portugal

    36. MERCS Miniatures 7-time creator on February 24, 2014

      All the work on the website is proceeding swiftly. We'll have the MegaCon hub up soon as well as the game pages.

    37. Jason V on February 24, 2014

      I cannot wait! every day is one day closer. Personally when I back a KS project I expect a 6 month delay past the initial deadline for pretty much everything now. Just the way of the world, and honestly the way this campaign literally exploded with content makes me appreciate it arriving this close to the estimated deadline. I cannot imagine the level of work that would have went into trying to maintain this. The fact that you are still this close to the target is incredible and you deserve kudos for that big time! I look forward to getting this game out on the table very much, especially after seeing how awesome the components are and the great reviews already out there.

      If the new project is anything like this one in quality, March will give me time to brace my wallet for the impact lol.

    38. Geoff Mason on February 24, 2014

      Felix already beat me to it. There is only so much that can be prepared for possible delays. Even non-KS backed products get delayed. The video game industry is full of them as a suddenly discovered bug can push a game back by weeks.

      My first KS I raged on a bit because it was rather late by several months. But when the product delivered I was a rather happy little backer. I suppose that experience has tempered my expectations a bit. So no worries on my end from the delay with Myth. I got plenty of other games to play and models to assemble/paint while I wait.

      If people truly expect a product to be able to ship by the ESTIMATED shipping date then perhaps KS is not for them.

    39. Tim Jones on February 24, 2014

      Put me in the happy crowd - some sort of delay is always to be expected; esp when the project grows so big. I've always felt the communication has been great and I'm looking forward to checking it out whenever it arrives :)

    40. Judy Krauss on February 24, 2014

      Thanks for the forums link, Frog :) : http://megacongames.vanillaforums.com/

      How about an official Myth webpage? Mercsminis.com doesn't even seem to acknowledge that the game exists!

      BTW, the miniatures in the pics, above, look fantastic! :)

    41. Alan
      Superbacker
      on February 24, 2014

      "Counter Threat" and "Assassination Protocol"? Do you have any idea how DIFFICULT it's gonna be to get containers with THOSE labels past customs???

    42. Felix Poortman on February 24, 2014

      The delivery date clearly says: estimated. Mercs have kept us up to date throughout the entire campaign and after. If people do not know the meaning of the word 'estimated' that's hardly Mercs' fault, and doesn't even have anything to do with being an informed customer, more with being a customer with a certain grasp of English vocabulary ;) Also it's not as simple as money for product, Kickstarter is not a shop, you're not a customer, you're an investor.

      @Danny, ow I noticed, yes I did... ><

    43. Grian the Rogue Rabid Squirrel Slayer
      Superbacker
      on February 24, 2014

      What!? MERCS is Late? What are you talking about Peeps! They are right on schedule with the norm on KS. Actually... they are better than the norm on KS.

      Shoot... Those that are upset! Get a refund! or I'll buy your pledges from you and get your games with all the extras!!!

    44. Patrick Todoroff on February 24, 2014

      Scott, on what basis do you make the assertion 'expectations are quite different' for KS? Apparently not, if some of the comments during this - and other - campaigns are anything to go by. End of the day, money for product is a business transaction.

      I'm familiar with 'caveat emptor' and being an informed consumer. It's simply my position the company has the responsibility to include the possibility during the planning phase, and keep consumers informed of a potential 'modified release schedule' during the campaign. That's all.

    45. Danny Gibson on February 24, 2014

      I'm amazed that @MERCS is shipping anything within 3 months of the delivery date considering how huge this kickstarter got. I think most people need to realize that the estimated shipping date is based on the initial funding goal. If the kickstarter explodes and there is a huge amount of content that is provided to the backers on top of the initial planned release then of course the date is going to slip. There shouldn't even be an expectation that the product is going to ship on time at that point. There is no difference between a kickstarter project or any other type of project, gaming or otherwise. If the scope of the project that someone was working on doubled or tripled. Every single person would be asking for an extension of time to finish the project. MERCS didn't. They tried to make it by the initial deadline regardless of how unreasonable it was to expect that they did. I for one am impressed by their dedication.

      On another note, MERCS: Recon is looking great. Did anyone else notice that one box is labeled Counter Threat and the other is Assassination Protocol? Excited to see this project unfold.

    46. Jonathan Patterson on February 24, 2014

      @ Scott
      http://www.dicetower.com/game_reviews/m/myth.html

      http://www.youtube.com/watch…
      Be aware that there are a lot of rules errors in Undead Viking's video.

    47. Scott Backer on February 24, 2014

      Can someone link some game reviews of Myth?

    48. Felix Poortman on February 24, 2014

      Just to chip in with the rest: you guys have been amazing throughout the whole process of this KS, and that has nothing to do with being on time or being a little late, you have been keeping everybody up to date with great communication, and you were honest and upfront about every little detail. I've said it before and I'll say it again, but other KS's could learn from your example. All the best to Keith and his wife!

      Also: shiny boxessss... I was considering backing DB:X, but now I'm not so sure ><