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A 0.80mm thin flexible wristwatch with an E Ink display housed in a single piece of stainless steel.
A 0.80mm thin flexible wristwatch with an E Ink display housed in a single piece of stainless steel.
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    1. Missing avatar

      Peter 1 day ago

      Such a sad thing that this project didn't make it to reality and I think the creators are to be blamed to a degree.

      Irrelevant to what happens before, I think there is still a chance to make this happen but not by hoping for the creators to make it but by teaming up and making it as a group.
      The information disclosed so far by the creators is almost all one would need to make the watch.
      Things required:
      Steel Band:
      All it needs is a 3d drawing and a metal cuff bracelet manufacturer in China.( I have done this before so I know how easy this is)
      We know exactly what battery they used as they listed it in one of their updates. I googled it and it is widely available for the public.
      They listed this as well in one of their updates. Again google brought it up and is also available to the public.
      The screen is a simple paper thin flexible e-ink display for which there are countless manufacturers in China and are easily available online.
      Programming the PCB:
      This is the only thing I wouldn't know how to do myself. but surely there are people among the backers who could.

      I know I make it sound easier than it is, but it could be done with some work.
      It is not a one man job but a team of people could pull it off...

      Creating the band is a very easy process and finding a cuff bracelet manufacturer in China is very easy.

    2. Bert
      on April 17

      Dave Vondle, Jerry O’Leary, I just hope that anyone looking for your names will find this campaign and our comments...

    3. Drew on April 8

      Hey all! Just your regular reminder that we all got scammed, and that I love each and every one of you and know you'll do great things in life. :)

      The CST-01 guys? Yeah, whatever, screw them. Hopefully they fail at everything forever haha...

      The way I see it, we each paid ~$129 to be a member of a super-exclusive sub-forum. Hopefully we're all still posting in here in 20 years, with stories of new families, houses, boats... yeah... <3

    4. Neil Mullett on March 23

      lol, first time I've logged into Kickstarter in a couple of years....not expecting to find people STILL commenting on this dead scam. TIME to move on peeps. Live and learn.

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      Patrick Lavin on March 8

      Hi. I know you can't read this because you're living in your one million dollar van and all... sorry about the lack of wifi. Anyways, I just wanted to wish you the worst of luck in every single business endeavor you ever sink your lying, dirty paws into. I hope the hundred dollar steak you bought with my investment tasted delicious. Your parents must be super proud.

    6. Topher on March 2

      I love checking in on the tumbleweeds here every so often. It's clear nothing here will ever happen. What money they received is gone, their presence is nil, and now we see a steady trickle of grumbles (like this) from now until the end of....time.

    7. leonard eshuis on February 23

      Refund would be nice

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      SC on February 23

      Well done, guys! Top notch theft!

      Some great entrepreneurs here. Saw an opportunity and took it. Can't fault them for that. If KS allows fraud and theft to occur, it's really KS' fault.

    9. Johannes on February 21

      As a Baker from Hour 0 of this project, I just want to know everybody to know that I am both disappointed in them as well as in Kickstarter. That is also the reason why this was the first and last time I ever did crowdsourcing on this platform.
      However, I couldn't fill out the legal forms to file a lawsuite due to missing information about payment and so on, that said I am really no help.
      To all others who feel the same way: My money gone, but I take it as a reminder to be more careful about those things, as I never thought we could be tricked that hard.

    10. Ehab Siqnawi on January 11

      How I can refund my money back please?

    11. Bert
      on December 21

      Yup, Joyeux Noël à tous ! Minus 2 of course.

    12. J S on December 13

      Nice idea Drew,
      Merry Christmas to everybody here. Well, everybody- 2 of course ;-)

    13. Drew on December 11

      Just wanted to wish everyone in here a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Kwanza, etc... we may have all been scammed by this jerk, but at least we're in this together! :D

    14. Bert
      on December 10

      If people stumble on this page by chance, you will find a good summary in this article :

    15. Nicolas Letarte on December 3

      How CST-01 team will have a good Christmas Holidays with all our money!

      Just saying that not everyone here have money to waste, a**holes!

    16. Upsilon7 on November 30

      This projector keep reminds me that KS is a bullshit.

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      JayMichael on November 29

      So, is this project officially done?

    18. David Livermore on November 27

      I hope you two were thankful for all of the money you stole from the backers. I am sure your family is proud of you.

    19. Dhirendra singh on November 23

      i think kickstarter is also a complete fraud and would suggest my friends to stay away from this platform.

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      peter waddington on November 15

      Another KS scam - post to twitter and let the world know.
      Do not use KS.

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      Michael Bayerl on October 27, 2016

      So here we are some 90 - 180 days later. How did the liquidation process go? As the anger slowly but surely fades the disappointment in eyeryone involved with this project grows. From Kickstarter to the project creators to the people running the so called CST Creditors Trust. The only one i trust is the higher being - lets call it fate - that will do the justice ... as no one of the aforementioned human beings will stand their ground. Thank you for a lesson learned.

    22. J S on October 24, 2016

      There is no stock Lars. They supposedly spent the money for thousands of parts but cant even show a picture of them.
      If there are no parts then where is the money?
      I have a pretty good idea.

    23. YOSHIKO TANIYAMA on October 23, 2016


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      Lars Wyness on October 19, 2016

      I submitted the form that you guys set out what feels like ages ago now, all I want are the components to make the watch, regardless of whether I'd be able to make it properly. I want to give making the watch a try.

      Please send me the parts, I know you guys must have some stock on hand, some people got their watches.

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      Jamieluk on October 10, 2016

      it's incredible that these liars and thieves cannot be punished by laws of the United States. These liars and thieves can be easily human flesh searched and taken to the justice even in China. Where are the greatest laws of the USA?

    26. Rick Collins on September 12, 2016

      I had totally forgotten about this campaign of theft. Surprised to see the page is still active; I would have thought kickstarter would have hidden its shame like an ugly relative in the basement.

      Long live the CST thieves; pricks better have gotten something really pretty with my $

    27. Pitpipo
      on September 5, 2016

      Soooo... where is my watch ?

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      Jordan on September 4, 2016

      Unfortunately, yes, it looks like the the CST crooks have won because it took too long for the Illinois AG and FTC to take action :( It'll be up to us to warn others about any future projects these guys get involved in and also Kickstarter's lack of support.

    29. J S on August 27, 2016

      Anything new?
      Is that how those guys won?
      The End?

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      Matt on August 11, 2016

      @ Robert Russell: I agree with you completely. I'm done backing projects that have HIGH expectations or are for any sort of technology unless it is from a creator that has had plenty of previous successes like PLX Devices.

    31. Bert
      on July 28, 2016

      @innocrave : Buccaneer 3d printer and CST-01 in the same article!

    32. INNOcrave on July 26, 2016

      I just came to kick starter to see abt my Buccaneers 3D printer to be disappointed $497 lost. Went through some more projects I backed to be disappointed 3 more times almost $1k lost in Kickstarter wow.

    33. Bert
      on July 7, 2016

      Anyone got an answer from the ftc? Not talking about the letter they sent to everyone...

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      Robert Russell on June 3, 2016

      Heck, at this point, I don't know why I'm even commenting on this. But...

      I'm completely done with crowdfunding and Kickstarter -- and buying anything retail from a Kickstarter-funded company, since I've been waiting 14 months for my Sesame lock.

      One thought if you want blood for their $129: civil lawyers want something of value they can go after, and I sense Dave & Jerry have far less cash than Ben & Jerry. Even if they're personally liable, it's easy to declare personal bankruptcy. Neither one is showing his Tesla on Facebook ... although Jerry isn't going by "Jerry" anymore.

      Now, if someone in China can prove that there was a coordinated fraud and no parts were ever bought, perhaps the Illinois AG or DOJ will get interested in criminal Fraud charges, since this could be a politically positive case. But that would require someone entering a Flextronics or contractor plant to photograph empty boxes or copy paperwork, not likely.

      If you're continuing to pursue restitution and justice, I wish you luck and thank you for your efforts. I'm outta here.

    35. Eduardo Pizarro on May 26, 2016

      At one time I said this project look like a scam, after that another backer replayed "I can believe you call this a scam" o something like that. My question to that backer is, Do you believe you were not scam? I'm sorry that so many of us were let down.

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      Herbert on May 26, 2016

      Well, paypal is removing their "buyers protection" from payments toward crowdfunding projects:

      If you ever wanted to know on how big a scale scamming is going on in crowdfunding, there you have it: paypal loses enough money to react to this, so it must be a lot higher than the in the single digit millions.

      Im practically done with crowdfunding, this project was the last nail in the coffin.

    37. Jin Wong on May 25, 2016

      I never received anything from this project. it's a sham. they took my money and I never recieved anything from them.

    38. MM on May 16, 2016

      Kickstarter are refusing to confirm to me which legal entity they transferred the money to. It looks as though the money we paid was to David Vondle and Jerry O’Leary 'trading as' Central Standard Design, which was not a limited liability entity - therefore they are still both personally responsible for the funds.

      Please ask Kickstarter to confirm the entity yourselves. They're being very obstructive in clarifying.

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      Darcy Yarrow on May 15, 2016

      @Trogdor wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened with CST. They can't exactly prove they ever purchased any of the components.

    40. Trogdor
      on May 13, 2016

      Interesting read about another KS campaign where someone used money to build their house...

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      Jordan on May 12, 2016

      I'm not a lawyer but I believe there is enough evidence to hold Dave Vondle and Jerry O'Leary accountable. Not only did they mismanage the project, they misspent funds, went against the will of the backers, and intentionally deceived us from the very start of the campaign. I'd love to believe that they were bumbling idiots, but their actions show intent at a malicious level.

    42. Peter Fonseca on May 11, 2016

      @Jordan. Although i'm skeptical of eventual success I've submitted a claim at the FTC today.

      Thanks and regards.

      "Complaint has been submitted
      Today 7:48 PM

      Complaint Submitted - Your reference number is:

      Thank you for contacting the Federal Trade Commission. We have given your complaint the reference number listed above. Please use that reference number if you need to contact us about your complaint in the future.

      Once we have reviewed your complaint, you may receive another email with additional information that may further assist you."

    43. Renata Phillippi on May 11, 2016

      I don't understand why they need my social to "clear up this debt". Sounds like a load of bollocks to me. That said, I found the owner of CRA on Linkedin, in case any of you want to reach out to him...

    44. MM on May 11, 2016

      @Jordan. Thanks for the links. Unable to complain to AG as the forum only supports US addresses. FTC complaint lodged.

      I'm keen to establish whether the liquidation paperwork is valid. The payment receipt is made out to 'Central Standard Design', which is presumably the name Dave Vondle and Jerry O'Leary, it certainly doesn't appear to have been a registered limited liability entity, and we've not agreed to have their obligations transferred over to a limited entity, therefore I am wondering if Dave Vondle and Jerry O'Leary should still be personally responsible. Any thoughts?

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      Jordan on May 10, 2016

      Let's keep the pressure on these liars:
      Everyone, if you haven't already done so please fill out complaints to the Illinois Attorney General and FTC.
      Illinois Attorney General Consumer Complaint On-Line Submission Form:
      FTC Complaint: Select "Internet services, online shopping, or computers" then "Online shopping"
      Seller/Provider: Dave Vondle and Jerry O'Leary doing business as Central Standard Timing
      Address: 3039 W Fullerton Ave # 2
      Chicago, IL 60647-2807

    46. MM on May 10, 2016

      The legal entity named on the liquidation paperwork doesn't match the entity named on the payment receipts and Kickstarter are refusing to even confirm what entity they distributed our collected funds too. Absolute joke on behalf of the Kickstarter team, to really rub salt into the wound.

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      John Ahn
      on May 7, 2016

      @Laird Popkin - Seriously, after all the lies and BS CST has told us so far, you choose to believe that fiction about them being able to deliver a slightly thicker watch? It was a rigged survey that the majority of backers didn't have proper notice to respond to. I want an accounting of how they mismanaged our money. For all I know, they took nice vacations with a portion of our KS funds instead of efficiently using it to complete the project.

    48. J S on May 7, 2016

      did they burn through money?
      What do they have to show for?
      Supposedly thousands of displays, bands and batteries, but no proof or even picture that these ever existed. How strange is that?

      The survey was concluded before everybody had a chance to vote... It might have been just part of a plot to pretend to have gone bankrupt because of factors outside their control, when in fact they funneled out the money from the project right into their own pockets.
      Thats a common trick and Kickstarter isn't to blame for other people's criminal energy.

      However they could be blamed for not having stricter rules or otherwise supporting the people who make their business possible in case things go south.

      Even ebay which is also just a platform, refunds for frauds, misrepresentations and blocks sellers for much smaller offenses. Ebay sells only existing products? Well, I ordered a flute which had shipping of 4 weeks. Thats acceptable. However after paying I got a message that the person will get to making it within the next 20 days. Lol. Almost like our 2 CST founders here the person had pretended that the product was ready to go. Just revisit the CST campaign page for fun. Prototype and assembly working, supply figured out and all it needs is money for the parts. Lying from the beginning. Planned to fail to hide the money stolen from us or just "Fake it until you not make it"?

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