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@Charles.... eh, what? That game was funded 3 years ago and was published last year.
So, no you can't pledge at all.
You can simply buy the game.
Is there a way of pledging just for the game and having no extra expenses for the fluff stuff
@GeekJen: Thank you for the pictures!
I'm sure they underestimated the costs and this often happens with Kickstarter projects. Project creators tend to make promises to reach their goal and then they add all kind of stretch goals to attract more backers and higher pledges.
In the end the game/software alone costs a lot more money they thought and then they also have to produce all kind of different physical goods and handle them which is a lot of work for sure.
Regarding Revolution Software: It was a worthy try and of course not everything went perfect. But I am not disappointed and I will support them again should there be a new campaign. I'm sure they've also learned a lot from this experience and will make it a lot better next time.
Not even the Templar pendant looks like it was announced. On the photo it looked antique, quite real. Just nice. The actual reward looks cheap and tacky.
Personally I can live with the "Art of Broken Sword" (instead of the "History of Broken Sword"). Quite happy with it.
I pledged 717.77 Dollars. 150 for someone else (gift), 567.77 for myself. And I regret it a bit.
Yes, I like BS5 and will probably pledge again for BS6 if possible.
I have the impression they over-promised and underestimated the costs and required efforts and tried to cut corners.
Still a huge fan of Revolution and Broken Sword. Just a bit disappointed.
@GeekJen -- Are you really surprised ? The same happened with "History of Broken Sword"... But apart me and a few backers, nobody said a word about this "artbook",which was everything but the promised one.
Nearly all "high" backers don't seem to care about what they have paid for... As far as I'm concerned, I didn't give 250$ to Rev because it was Rev ; I gave them to have a great adventure game with promised rewards. Unfortunately, I have to say I've been disappointed on both sides :-(
Hope that helps.
Someone got pictures of the chest? Want to know how it looks like :-)
Any other knight commander here who is a bit disappointed with "Nico's" notebook?
Quote Kickstarter Update #13 : "This beautiful "La Liberté"-branded item is signed by Nico and filled with clues and quirky contents - includes items such an incriminating café receipt (you will understand when you play the Serpent's Curse). To top it off, each book will be numbered and contains a hand-written secret from the game, completely exclusive and unique to that one copy. This one-of-a-kind treasure is an irreplaceable addition to any collection."
Books are not numbered, contain only small screen cap print outs, no unique hand-written secret's, etc. It's a "mass"-produced little book. Nothing else. It doesn't even look like as advertised.
Haven't got mine yet, so they're obviously savin the best til last lol.
But glad people have teceived theirs and love them! @BigD glad you got yours mate, i reckon they sent international out first so people aren't waiting so long :)
I received the last rewards as well today! The box is awesome, and I can't wait to peruse through Nico's notebook!
Thank you Revolution!
The remainder of the swag showed up today and it looks great. The box is nice and sturdy, the signed stuff is awesome, Nico's notebook looks great (it is too late to read it all tonight) and the OOTG swag is awesome.
@P-Bob: That's awesome!! :) Can't wait to get mine now. :D
Yes I believe that's it for BS5 rewards now, unless you have any add-ons outstanding?
Just need news of the next project now ;)
Postman rang the bell at my door Thursday morning. Luckily I was a) at home due to something else and b) I was up and about so went to open the door. I had to sign to get a large box. When taking over the box I noticed it was very light. I thought "wow, they must have put in a lot of packaging". At that time I hadn't found any indication of the sender yet. Flipping over the box in several fashions I finally found the sender information: Revolution. :) Packaging wasn't around the BS5-box as much was IN the box: bubble-wrap galore. So, I have now removed the BS5-paraphernelia littering around on my shelves and put them in the BS5-box. Note of trivia: there's another collector box nearby the BS5-one but that one has a limited edition certificate and is much heavier. So, unless I'm mistaken, that's the final delivery of BS5-stuff I'm going to get, end of en era, sort of. If I still had some indication of OOTG-membership in my profile, this would be the time to remove it, but that has passed several projects ago already.
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@Black_cocoon: Oh yay!! They're on the way to people?! :D
I can't wait to get mine, now I need to make a special place for it somewhere haha. :)
Just got the collectors chest! It is great (especially for a paper product)! Large enough to hold all my rewards (two game boxes + shirts and all the other stuff) - good idea to make the top even higher so that you have extra space when something needs more space than is available by the height of inner box ! Nico's notebook is really great too! - so glad Rev went with the box instead of the bag ! The only thing that still annoys me a little bit are the wrappers for the game box - would have been so much nicer if the box was printed on instead of these sheets flying around. Nevertheless, everything fits very nicely now in one place and the chest itself really is a eyecatcher and has already a special place in my room - makes you lust to travel =) Maybe I'll build one own out of leather or take a large box and make some kind of travel chest out of it (just in that style) :-)
Still haven't played the game yet too. I keep it for a special winters week and the right mood.
@Victor: Hi you best email email@example.com for help on this. You should have got emails with backer access to your rewards and codes. I know a few people had to get emails re sent and addresses changed last year for rewards.
I've never downloaded my copy or get any of my rewards. But now that i what, the link below doesn’t work.
How can I get those things?
Thx a lot.
And that's me done with this Comment section now, thanks for everything Rev!! :D
It's been an amazing ride, friends were made and bonds were forged in a mutual love for a videogame series. I can't thank you all enough for this project, for the game you made and the time you took to chat to your fans. I can't wait to get my collectors chest and Nico's Notebook now. :)
I'll also say thanks for the live streams which were loads of fun, great to be a part of this project and just so damn happy to help out in any way i could. :)
Here's to the next adventure!!!! cheers.
@Charles Adams: Most likely the Bacers names will be in the credits of th ePS4 version, they were in the Vita version so it makes sense. haha. :)
Be great to play it again on PS4 and hopefully get some more people buy it. :D
@Thierry: I'm sorry you feel let down in any way, the majority of backers certainly haven't and I know you can't please everyone but it's still not nice to hear people aren't content.
But you decided to pledge however much you did, no matter what you're reasons. Revolution kept their promise and created the game and released it. Yeah it was delayed as expected when they added more gameplay to it, along with unforeseen delays that tend to happen. Plus they added several extras for the fans and have been nothing but attentive to us during the whole process. This is one of the best KS projects i've been part of and i've backed a few of them. From all the KS games this was one of the first to actually release and distribute rewards. I know many that haven't yet that are 2-3 years old. I'm sure lessons have been learnt from this by Rev and i doubt they'll make the same mistakes if they should do another Kickstarter, But they are a team of very honest people that just wanted to make a game, never any intention of just tkaing money and not caring/listening to the backers. :)
@Stuart: Rev had said that if you had any problems with rewards to contact them and they'd arrange a replacement. I know a few people that have done this and been happy with the results. Sometimes things get damaged in transit, not much anyone can do about it.
As for the Collectors chest, they've kept to their word and are soon to send them out. :)
I can't wait to get mine. :D
I still haven't started the second part as in my eyes I never expected to see another broken sword game and I am keeping for a rainy day. I wonder if the backers names will be in the PS4 version as well
@Charles Adams -- About the 800,000k : yes, we did => https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/revolutionsoftware/broken-sword-the-serpents-curse-adventure/posts/317013
This is the same for me : I've never pledged as much money as for this project. That's why I feel disappointed about the final product, because promises were huge thanks to this 800,000k stretch goal. Just read Charles' interview in the link above :
"so players have a genuine choice in how they choose to approach puzzles" => I've played the whole game several times, and I can't remember any puzzle you could solve by more than one approach...
"The second part of the game is now going to be considerably expanded to include that section in the Middle East" => It was probably the more disappointed bit for me : this section was really short and easy, far from the 650,000k stretch goal which was supposed to be "exotic locationS in middle east/north africa".
In a nutshell, I'm sad because I thought this game would be a huge point'n'click game, a kind of new standard for all adventure game lovers. But as someone wrote here after finishing the game, it's "a solid addition to the serie". So dont' get me wrong : it's a good point'n'click, and all Revolution fans seem really happy with it. But as an hardcore adventure game lover, I was hoping it would be long, complex and epic. And in the end, as far as I'm concerned... it isn't :-(
I didn't spend quite as much as you But 100 is still way more then I have ever contributed before. Did we ever get confirmation that we hit 800,000. I don't regret helping get the game made but next time I'll probably contribute for just the game.
@Charles Adams -- I feel like I wish the promised original game were finished, before considering a PS4 port... Remember the 800k stretch goal ? There was a director's commentary option inside, which sounded great to me :
I upped my pledge to 250$ to make this happen, because I thought it was a very promising feature... May I ask : where is it ?
how do we feel about this
Interesting that somebody got their damaged books replaced as mine came all tattered, i may take some photos and contact Revolution
@Jonathan Thomas I was just above $500 too and i made it clear to Revolution that i felt ripped off as well and that i would never have backed had i known. I've backed some great projects and received some cool stuff. However Revolutions is not one of them, nor will i back another of their projects, they produced some great games but fuzzy childhood memories are not enough to justify my cash.
Lesson learned, pick up the next Revolution game on steam or humble for a couple of quid next time. The mistake here was thinking that becuase they were dealing directly with people that they would want to produce something special for the people giving them their money, now i just wish i could have my money back form them as i feel robbed in regards to this project!
Can't wait for the next update, it's the big one about the last of the rewards and any possible rumours for the next project! ;)
(Come on In cold blood remaster/sequel) haha
So how about another revolution game?
As if there was any doubt as to the Rev teams intentions :D
Congrats to Charles Cecil and the Revolution team for winning 3 Aggies from Adventuregamers.com :)
In best writing - Comedy, Best voice acting and for best crowdfunded adventure. Well deserved too! :D
I'm delighted to hear that there will be a collectors chest now! Maybe our comments urged them to change their mind ... Nevertheless, it's just the right thing to do! I hope it will live up to what they promised. Haven't played the game yet, I wanted to wait for all the pyhisical stuff being finished and the right time for me to play it. I'm happy that I can now put all what belongs to the game in a little treasure box. Everything else - I'm sure - wouldn't just have felt right for a great game like this.
Couldn't agree more. The game is fantastic just the wuality of the physical rewards isn't close to being perfect and change too much from what got promised in the first place. That's the bigger deal if you have pledge more than $250 and that's the disappointing part of this project!
I appreciate that pleasing everybody truly is a thankless task. I apologise anyone who has been offended by what I've written. However, I take issue with the guy who said we're complaining about useless stuff, quite the opposite really, we're taking issue with sub-standard quality of promised rewards, and even lack of promised rewards in some cases.
It is indeed okay for those who backed the game for $35 to be very happy with the game itself, no problem. When I finally get around to playing it, I'm sure I'll be incredibly happy with the experience. However, I will always make my point known when I am unhappy with physical rewards that have been promised on the basis of me paying upwards of $500. If those rewards are not as good as what was initially promised or better, then my money was taken under false pretense.
I may be living in a dream world by hoping for good quality physical rewards, but "risk taking" backer or not, no one will ever take my money and get away with delivering unsatisfactory goods and broken promises. If you can't deliver what you promised initially (which caused backers to pay more as they were sold on a particular bracket of rewards based on promises made) then it is my opinion that you should go out of your way to find a better alternative and talk to backers about it, it's not rocket science. Making uninformed decisions and delivering sub-par products isn't an option, again, in my opinion.
I don't want to sound ungrateful or negative, I'm thankful for the work of the Revolution team, and I really did come on here to apologise to those who I may have offended.
Have not received a single physical reward yet. I understand being patient but this has become unfair. It was a collective effort and everyone wanted the game to be made, but at the end of the day they promised a product and we paid for a promise of the same. I have always loved broken sword and was super kicked about this kickstarter but i cannot keep following up on a package for 7 months ! and continue to do so for another 7 months. I wish them all the best for the future and ive learnt not to share my money like this. It is very disappointing.
I still haven't had my physical rewards? What is going on? I haven't changed address.
Is it possible to get my money back? Game was released year ago, but still no Polish text version. I'm done. I don't want to wait any longer.
Hey why haven't they made Beneath a Steel Sky 2 yet!? I blame people like Leonard Challis and Sara Patrick!
@Thierry I was active here during the campaign and after because that's when it was a community. That has now shifted elsewhere - the forum, facebook, messengers, in person, etc - and this page is just a place for people to throw out accusations and opinions as facts, or at best to just complain when something's wrong.
The collectors chest doesn't affect me, so I'm sorry I don't have an opinion on that. As for everything else, including the things that changed, I'm delighted. Everything looks fantastic and is great quality and I'm enjoying them, thanks. The best thing though is that there was a new Broken Sword game and possibly more from Revolution in the future. And on top of that, I have some fantastic new friends who I speak to on a daily basis.
A lot of us spent a great deal of our time supporting Rev and the community and it was fantastic. Now Revolution have scaled down to a very small team and things are pretty quiet on the Kickstarter front and we all have our lives, so please don't single any of us out, because it's none of your business on how we decide to spend our time. But some of the opinions and comments here about what must have happened and what must be the truth (both recently and in the past) are quite insulting to read. Anyone who genuinely spent time speaking to Revolution, accepting that the size of the team and huge amount of work and learning curve the Kickstarter has been, would know they're genuine and aren't the type of people to "not care". Seriously, if you think Charles and co just wanted your money and now don't care, you're insane. As soon as something changes, there is outrage. It happens here, other Kickstarters, etc. in the grand scheme of things we have to remember we took a risk to fund this project and although accountable, Revolution and other project creators do have to make changes. Of all the projects I've backed, there hasn't been a single one better than this. That's my opinion, and I'm sure the vast majority of other people too, not just the noisy minority.
You ask why people like myself are no longer here? It's because I'm happy, I've moved on, and look forward to the next one.
I hope your issues get resolved, but think about what you're saying.
@Thierry - Hey, Actually we are still active Goat members, I still run the order of the goat page with Stew and still post on there. Have been out of the country over Christmas and Just got back and JUST got my Broken Sword goodies, I came on here to comment about it actually and was disappointed by your comment. Everybody has a reason for everything Leonard is a father and has a young child to take care of along with having a full time job and you shouldn't assume the worst. I have personally thanked Rev for all of their hard work and effort put into all of the amazing rewards. Being negative solves nothing, so let's just be happy about how far we have all come, being backers, developers and friends. :)
I'm quite positive about the collectors chest, Revolution have been outstanding amongst other KS creators who many of haven't even delivered a game as yet.
They've not forgotten us, nor will they give up on us. :)
Wow so many people complaining about useless stuff... thought the important thing was the game which was amazing. To each their own i guess and i mean no disrespect other then to call to fact that we funded something we all wanted which was another broken sword game ( 2 if you really think about it)
Got my replacement keychain and artbook today. Yes, Revolution actually sent a full second artbook to me, instead of just a new dustjacket to replace the damaged one (and I had pointed out in my email to them that I'd be okay with just the broken keychain being replaced). Plus, they also shipped the replacements separately instead of sending them with the OotG shirt, bottle opener, collectors bag/chest (whichever it turns out to be) and any other remaining goods. So I got the replacements faster than I expected.
All in all, despite the possible downgrade of the collectors box (I'd be happy with the bag if not for the logo/design), I'm really happy with this kickstarter and will be here if and when Revolution returns with another campaign.
Can't say I'm surprised about the chest. I knew as soon as it was announced that the end result would be underwhelming just based on past experience with "collector's edition" video games. At the least it should be cardboard and saying it would not hold up in transit is an excuse that doesn't fly. Cardboard can be very sturdy and look fine when treated well at the print stage with various effects.The real reason I suspect is that Rev just realized it would cost more to ship it than they figured and someone would have to create the artwork and manage the production. Downgrading to a bag means they can just send a logo image to one of the many services that will just stick a graphic on a stock bag. No designer necessary and can be stuffed into a small package for shipping.
Like many projects BS has all the signs that the creators did not plan adequately for rewards and were too fixated on just making their product.
Got my OotG-shirt today here. Once I noticed the return address on the package (York) I knew it had to be Revolution :)
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Got my OotG shirt today!!! :D
Wearing it with pride for that weird bunch of misfits i came to call friends :)
receive my little box with the 5 broken sword game I'm happy with the comics and tshirt
@black_cocoon: Woult think so too - so complain also directly at kickstarter so this won't happen again!
I'm afraid Rev. won't even read these comments anymore ....
The bag Rev. is suggesting to replace the chest is just ugly and cheap ! I would really be disappointet if they would decide to go this way ... I feels like they don't really care and just want to complete the whole think the cheapest way possible. The chest was one item I really looked forward to store all my BS5 stuff in. As the box for the backers is already not the best solution because of the paper wrap (also bad indeed) the chest would have made this good at least. I didn't complain - because with such a project there can always be disappointings and things that won't go exaclty as planned and for me all the delays or little changes were just minor mistakes - until NOW. If this is your solution, I won't pledge as much money the next time, definitely!! Seems you can't count on them, as you dont't know what you'll get in the end anyway ...