Use this space to cheer the creator along, and talk to your fellow backers.
Have a question?
Looks like the FTC is going after kickstarter non-deliveries now -
It might be worthwhile to contact them.
Is not there a way to initiate a class action so that we can obtain what we paid for?
Can someone asserted this?
Thank you guys.
Yes i want. We could build a way to refund.
Yes, I want my money back. Who else?
is anyone filing a case to the police/fbi ? money should be refunded. it seems for me that Ryan is a thief.
so Ryan has been doing a line of lasercut Votive candle holders for weddings, etc, so at least we know the lasercutter is working and taking Files.
Now we just need said files...
Upload STLs for all the parts you designed that can be printed to Thingiverse and tag them as Maxifab. You can set up a user name just for that so you don't get harassed. How about also including directions there or here on what slicer and driver to use to talk to the Maxifab?
maybe he enjoy his life with the 24.000 $
Well, Ryan still logs in and checks this every few weeks (Last login Jun. 06, 2013), so how about a simple post here to say either; you took us for a ride, or; the funniest thing happened, it's going to make the best story, and all the rewards are shipping out now..
Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to recieve a complete kit months ago, but I've never gotten it to print and largely gave up and have ignored it for the past few months.
A few of the problems I've run into:
I replaced the bed with glass because the board was warped. Easy fix.
One big thing is I have been completely unable to upload any new firmware to the board (cause I'm on a mac?!) and I don't fully understand the software. Im using arduino ide v0018, ponterface, and slicer.
The most annoying part is the inability to get anything to stick to the bed. Tried hairspray and different tapes and I'm not even sure if I'm using the correct filament type.
Also, every time I attempt to print, it ends with a large mass of plastic stuck inside the hot end leaving me to disassemble and clean it out each time.
Latest problem is the feeder not working.
I wish I could get this thing printing but lately its only annoyed me.
I would love to help everyone else anyway I can, but I need help getting started too. Hopefully we can get some kind of forum or site or something to collaborate on.
If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it!!
As an interesting diversion, for those who are interested in this style of printer, take a look at the Rigibot project. Boasts a 10" x 10" x 10" build volume, and easily expandable;
Thanks for your response. I really believe the basic design of this printer is a good one. I have been going over all the documentation I could find, and more would be appreciated. At this point I am mainly trying to identify hardware and haven't paid much attention to software/firmware. When I think I have a pretty complete parts list, I will start looking into the firmware issue. I am considering putting together something, even if I don't have enough to make it fully operational yet. As I mentioned, I am new to 3d printing and I think this will be a good learning experience for me. My background is in software, although mostly application development using Java, Smalltalk and COBOL.
I have started putting together a parts list broken down by each corner and It appears some of the hardware is also used by Reprap and I assumed that would be a good starting point to look at firmware needed. On the hardware front, it appears possible to tease out all the parts list from various places. I can't find the version of the specific stepper motors being used, if you could provide that it would be great, also what size is the fan and how much air does it push. I hope to at least find some sources for these types of things.
After giving the documentation I have available a once over, the biggest issue to building more Maxifab's is getting all the plastic parts designed. There are only a few people out there who got a box and can do it and I really appreciate the models currently on Thingiverse, it had to take a considerable amount of time to get those ready, but only the main mounting points are there, there are a lot of other parts that would still need to be designed, I haven't looked in detail, but I would guess there are at least half a dozen left to be modeled.
Although, like everyone, my time has limits, I will try to do as much as I can to make this happen. And again, thanks to those of you who have put out documentation and part designs and everything else. I really appreciate it, and I am sure the other backers do too.
I have a very early BoM I got from Ryan during the campaign, I'll dig it up and let people know what it was at that point. I also grabbed chunks of the Wiki before it got overrun with spam, so I'll find somewhere to post them for reference.
I'm fairly experienced with 3D printing, owning a Makerbot Thing-o-matic, a Printrbot on the way, and a Rostock Kessel on the bench, but the stumbling block I can see is the firmware. I have a link to a firmware builder for the Marlin Firmware, but it'll be a little hit and miss without the firmware that was built by Ryan, but once we can get that ironed out, we should be able to reproduce something for the more experienced to help the people just starting out.
It sucks that a lot of us got ripped off. I would still like to try to build one of these, and suspect others would also, but would like help. I am new to 3D printing, but have started researching it. I read through the documents that were provided and notice specific mention to the bearings and electronics board needed. As far as I can tell the motors are NEMA17 Stepper motors similar to those found on reprapworld.com. Ryan also mentions specific sizes on various nuts, bolts and washers etc. From everything I saw, I am guessing most of the parts will turn out to be standard for existing printers.
Would someone who did get one be willing to document the parts list so I can confirm everything I would need. Particularly such things as rod sizes and what type of belts were used. Also anything else that would need documented, particularly final software and configuration settings. I would ultimately need someone willing to print the main parts for me, not sure how much that would cost.
Also it sounds like some modifications were needed, I hope someone could document changes they made.
I have found a lot of useful info in this comments section and would appreciate any further help anyone can give.
I have been on the road, earning a living, but I did finish the drawings of all the corners of the unit and have added 3 more that will put the Z axis in the middle of the side of the platform, adding another bearing to the slide to get more stability. I disassembled and glued all the existing corners and am working on putting mine back together. I will then print all new parts to test the configuration. When, and if, they work I will post them on line - not sure where - so that others can use them. I have the sense that the unit is good and worth all the effort to rebuild the thing. Ryan is making a mistake abandoning the group that got him the boost ( $ ) to build units. I am interested in following the development of this group, will try to stay in closser touch with this site.
I cannot believe this guy... I haven't received anything from Ryan, but there he is happily putting the printers on ebay...
for those playing along at home, Ryan has listed another 10 printer kits on ebay:
I'm sure we'll see more ebayers popping up on the facebook page asking for help. I've got a SMF forum site ready to go, but I'm not really sure on what boards or topics people will want, so I'll probably need help with the initial board creation, etc. I'll paste a link here shortly and we can at least get our own support stuff running.
Sorry for the spam this morning, I updated the part
I had a major design error in the Z motor base, I am re designing the part. Please don't print this part
I would like to know why kickstarter is not helping to solve this problem?
Has anyone try to get refund from amazon? Im facing similar problem with iCache project also. Many pledgers were able to get their money back. I've sent an email to amazon for these 2 projects also. Still waiting for the respond.
Sorry to disappoint you Raymann Kuan but you are not the only one to try getting your money back... Kickstarter is saying they do not have any responsibility. Amazon payments is saying it has been to long to get your money back. And Ryan seems to have disappeared from the globe, yet his Facebook page is still actively updated with posts... Sorry to say but we've all been ripped off... This was my first contribution via Kickstarter, and my last. Sad for the people who DO make the efforts for their backers and communicate as they should.
I have complained. I emailed to Ryan through Facebook and also his mail stated in his blog. I too emailed to KS. I hope I can get my money back. Too long to wait. I'm very disappointed for not receiving any reply and updates at all.
How about the backers with a fully assembled and tested Maxifab Printer.
When can we expect the delivery ?
Hello, Maxifabbers. below is a link to a Google drive folder I set up that you can access. It has several documents you can view and probably download and print.
1. Maxifab's assembly instructions with some annotations by me. (pdf)
2. Another set of assembly instructions that were on the Maxifab community portal that are not gone. I scanned a printed copy I had marked up. (pdf)
3. An assembly "annotated visual supplement" I just put together with lots of photos of my assembled Maxifab XL (pdf and docx)
4. A consolidated document with all 3 of the above in one PDF.
As far as my document (#3) goes, feel free to download, cut, paste, use as you see fit. For example you can use any of the photos in a wiki or other document you start.
Here is a link to a Google+ album with photos of my assemble MaxifabXL printer and notations that might help others to assemble or troubleshoot theirs.
I finished the XYZ corner, like the ones before un-tested.
Here is the Y Motor Mount, I'm getting a friend to print the parts on his 3d Printer and will update the Thingiverse with progress
I have yet to test this part, i'm having a friend print this for me, I will update the part with the progress if it works
Drew Lindsey & Steve Walsh I would love to help set up a community to help out, I am frustrated with the lack of support we are getting from Ryan and his partner.
Drew It would be great if you can get the corner pieces models up on thinkgiverse.com or zip them up and send them along to me. The Balsa wood corners I got in the kit are so f'n flimsy
It seems as though since so much time has passed, Amazon Payments won't allow one to file a claim anymore.
I haven't heard from Ryan yet. I'm going to take it to the next step with Amazon Payments.
Let's see how that goes.
Take a look at http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:34817, which was done by Richard Beck, another project backer who also received his kit.
I am in favor of forming a community, of some discription. A place to post pictures, drawings, STL files, etc.
Any information I have, I will be glad to put out there.
I am strugling with the settings for the printer. Feed rates for 1.75 and 3.0 filament - in both materials. A software that lets you set all the rates and then remembers them would be nice as well.
The Pronterface software does not remember the settings from one print to the next (think I saw a solution, but can't find it now) and I have come close to correct but when I tried to print the same part again - bogus settings - so the part failed.
Any idea about what software works? The stuf I am trying is not user friendly. Free but hard.
Where can .stl files be shared? Maybe we could use - http://www.thingiverse.com/ - and be sure to put MAXIFAB- name of part as the file name. That lets you search and find the parts you need.
I will put any that I do on that site - and if there is another site picked for the group, I will put them there as well.
Working now on printing something at all. When I can print parts, so that I can be sure they can be printed and they work, I will post them.
Great to hear someone has gotten some plastic on the bed with one of these! Keep us in the loop on how you go with the re-engineering work, all I wanted was the plastics, so I'll be hanging out for your work.
With the belt skipping, order a new metal T5 idler and a length of belt from online and replace what you've got, I've never liked plastic idlers, and it's possible the belt may be one of the chinese ebay wonders that is actually really a T5.73 pitch belt ;)
Seeing as Ryan has taken the forums offline, and the wiki has also been wiped, I was thinking of setting up a seperate "community" maxifab forums. If people are interested, let me know and I'll spin something up.
I got my machine, with the help of Richard's information I was able to assemble the unit (XL ) I have made several attempts at printing and have had mixed results, not so good to bad.
I had to do work on the (plywood corners to stiffen them) Braced the long walls to stabalize the unit, replaced the bed with a piece of .125 ALUM and the surface with a piece of glass.
I am using Windows 7 and have had no problems connecting to the unit, I am using PRONTERFACE as the interface and Pronterface to do the slicing through SLC3R.
I am a newbe and have issues with setting the feed rates and travel speeds so that I can get a print.
I use Solidworks to design parts, and had to work out the orentation so that the flat parts would sit on the BED.
As soon as I get the machine to print I will print a BIG DRIVE GEAR and then print all the corners.
I will also be changing the point of support for the bed from the corners to the middle of the short side with a wider (gusseted) attachment to the sliding connection.
I think the gears for all the stepper drives are bad, they wobble and I get creap - belt jumps a sprocket from time to time, makes for a funkey part. I will be using the pitch of the belt to draw a proper gear for the stepper drives.
There are enough of us that we could work together and produce part drawings and develope a settings for the software so that we can all get what we wanted, a 3D printer.
I will put my parts drawings where ever it makes sense and have downloaded Richards corner part already. I will just have to reverse engineer the other parts to get a good machine.
The idea is good, the exicution leaves a little to be deisred. I was the person that put the project over the goal, I got my machine about when I expected, Have not gotten any support since.
As the lady said, "I depend on the kindness of strangers" look at the other machined that use Pronterface to get information.
I emailed him on the 24th of December, no response.
No, I haven't had any response from my e-mail
So for those playing along at home, in the last week we've had;
* All the 10 copies of the maxifab on ebay sell
* The forums are now no longer accessible
* the "maxifab" user on facebook suddenly popup and get in contact with a disgruntled ebay buyer, but with no contact to the rest of us posing questions.
Rick and Faisal, have you heard anything from your email attempts?
I too have sent an e-mail to Ryan. Let's see if there is a response.
I just went through Amazon payments to contact the seller. An email was sent to email@example.com. I will let you know if anything comes of it.
how do we go about getting a refund since Ryan seems to have disappeared?
What has happened to Ryan and this kickstarter project?
Donald: No one has heard anything more from Ryan either via KS or Facebook. Some people have had luck with Amazon payments, so you can make a request with them for your money to be refunded.
did anyone got any feedback the last months over KS or Ryan Facebook Page.. For me it looks like the money is gone and we need to handle that out with the Police. Anyone here with any other ideas how to get our money back !?
Richard: I don't think the machine files for either slic3r or ReplicatorG were released. You would assume they had something driving going on the videos that were posted of the unit running as a plotter and as a printer, but you never know. He's posted a few STL's to the forums in the early days, but without the full set released, It's just not possible for others to print and self-assemble, then nut out how to make it work. You can look at it two ways - either it's a very elaborate hoax so Ryan can get a Lasercutter, or a they've hit several issues that have made both Ryan and Brian throw their hands up in the air and walk away from the idea. Right now, my money is on the latter.
Does any supporter of this project actually have their printer actually Printing? If so, where did you get your driver and what software are you using?
Steve,I have not heard from Ryan since September or October when I paid to get replacement belt pulleys. This was necessary because the process for installing the nuts inthe gears failed. Emails since have gone unanswered.
I finally received my 3mm filament this week via amazon and tried to load it. Well that revealed another problem, the filament tube has inside diameter that is exactly 3mm or slightly less. Either way, it is too tight for 3mm pla filament. I had to buy tubing that would work at home depot.
The quality of the plywood isnsuchthat the Xl sides warped enough bombing the movement along the long sides. I have clamped braces on the sides to straighten the sides.To
I replaced the build platform with plexiglass because the Xl build plate is to large to stay flat with the quality of the plywood. Two point supports a problem at that size.
Still no driver, so, so far all i can do is manually jog the motors.
This is a huge disappointment so far.
Trying to be respectful and considerate.
I'm still waiting on a $750 kit. I'm in Washington, so if mine was shipped, then I should have gotten it by now... I guess I wasn't one of the lucky ones that did. *sigh*
So Ryan's last visit to the forums was the 24th September, which was 2 days after I got my last kickstarter mail from him, 4 days after the last blog post on the maxifabber site, and 12 days since his last KS update.
He and his "business partner" Brian (who designed the hot end) is still active on FB, neither have any (public) comments about stuff being damaged by Sandy, and Ryan posted at one point that he was "well above any water that was likely to come into town". A quick search of business Directory will garner the address of "Maxifab LLC" in Neptune, NJ, and some quick googling shows the nearby golf course was open for business shortly after Sandy cleared. 4 Ebay kits have been sold, one as late as ~2 weeks ago, so if he's still offering them for sale with a wiped out workshop, he's got bigger problems.
Who knows why Ryan stopped talking to people around them, and stopped responding to any messages shortly thereafter. At this point, I'm just glad my "first burn" on kickstarter was only $100, so I feel sorry for those who forked out for the full kits, and are yet to receive them. Maybe Ryan will read this and let us know WTF is happening, maybe we'll never know.