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Mark McLaneBy Mark McLane
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Mark McLaneBy Mark McLane
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Still want Feedback

Posted by Mark McLane (Creator)
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Thanks everyone for your support, please post comments to help me make this a successful project on round 2.  Please also see my 3rd update for upcoming plans.  I would love to hear from you!

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      Daniel Lee on

      Hey Mark,

      Sorry for the late reply, was thinking about this and was wondering if you'd looked into making the deck into an app, iOS or Android. Having the deck available as an app with some basic search functionality might be a nice option. I also like the idea of higher quality cards and case would be great. Thanks and good luck!

    2. Mr.Schroeder
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      As en internationa backer, it's not so important if you use USPCC. If the quality is right, then i'm fine :)....

      Maybe you can make en USPCC as an streched goal?

      I liked the planes on the cards, but maybe it's better do modernise the back and deck

      The TopGun-Case is nice and would like to see it in the next KS! :)

    3. Jeremie Lariviere
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      on

      A different project I pledged to also used EPCC, I haven't received the decks yet, i think, but the pictures look awesome.

      I do like the designed, non-typical decks (including unique backs). I back projects because they are unique, with artwork that makes the deck stand alone, not ones that look the same as all others.

      Typically, I couldn't care less when it comes to the sticker. Get rid of it if it makes it cheaper, and if it works as stretch goal, include it.

      I wouldn't under-estimate shipping costs, especially international... I think some people worked to find other shipping partners so shipping costs could be local (you ship to the partner only). Other projects limited themselves to just USA.

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      GREG WALLIS
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      HEY MARK! I agree with Gareth concerning leaving the USPCC and losing some of your backers. My entire family and friends which are comprised of 73 (READ THAT AGAIN...73) total KS members of which I have "recruited" to become backers of many card projects. Only 6...I repeat...ONLY 6...of them will back non-USPCC/ non-BICYCLE playing cards.

      My total of recruits live in 22 different states and 3 different countries. My iimmediate family is included in those 73 so my son, my father, and my fiancée have decided NOT to pledge if you choose to go with another printing company, even though all of us understand the strict 2500 deck requirement from the USPCC.

      I may or may not back again but I do fully understand the problem and your concern and probable decision to change to a different company. I do like the idea of having a second deck of different color to go along with the original.

      Good luck either way!!

    5. Mark McLane Creator on

      Gareth,

      Thank you for your comments. The 3 companies that I have been considering for printing are EPCC, Legends, and possibly MPC. I definitely want a good quality card and each of these have a minimum order number of 1000 (except for MPC which is as low as 5 but you pay for it), this is much lower than the 2500 that USPCC requires. EPCC also does a second variation deck for a minimum of 500 decks so that would allow me to have two backs or colors at a fraction of the investment that USPCC would have been.

      I've started a couple of backs and at some point I will open up the designs as updates here and at several card forums to get a good critique. I will take my time on these a make something that hopefully you will approve of.

      Most likely the tuck case will be heavily influenced by the chosen back of the card, it will be a clean open look which many of the new card cases have. The old style is pretty clean, I may use the general flow for inspiration.

      Again, thanks for your comments. Please participate when I start sending out ideas sometime in the future.

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      Kevin L on

      I agree that quality cards will add to your pledges. I personally don't care about coins or dice or stickers. I'm a little less concerned with the card back, but agree that a nice design will help sales (and a really basic design will make it suffer). I liked the one you had well enough, though the plane outline seemed a bit stark. Having a tuck box that is glued on the bottom is important to me as otherwise it is a pain to put the cards away.

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      Gareth on

      Hey Mark,

      I have a couple of opinions- perhaps wrong for you, but here they are nonetheless.

      1. Printer. I understand the desire to reduce the minimum print numbers, but swapping from USPCC to another printer may lose you a reasonable number of pledges (myself included). I hope if you do make this change, you at least use one of the highly regarded alternatives - like EPCC or Legends - so that whatever output you get is of high quality.

      2. Back design - if you're going non-USPCC I guess you'll have to change the design in any case. I guess if you're going away from a standard back then make sure what you have is great. If it's not going to be excellent, you'd be better of with a standard (or near standard in this case) back as you have.

      3. Tuck Cases - modernise if you like. Part of the appeal of this deck to me was as a modern impression of the old spotter decks - so I'd have pledged for more if it was a slightly updated form of the tuck box you show on the project page. To be honest your current design looks like an average design from the 80's - neither modern and fluid, nor reminding us of the past you highlight in the project.

      As an fan of the old British Observers Guide to Aircraft books - I love the idea, but implementation success comes from the details. Best of luck in whatever you decide.