An dieser Stelle kannst du dem Projektgründer gutes Gelingen wünschen, Fragen stellen und dich mit anderen Unterstützern austauschen. Wir bitten darum, den Austausch stets respektvoll und höflich zu halten! Danke!
@Viral Videos: Thank you for your feedback but as mentioned several times below in the comments, this is not the case. The video does get many things wrong and here is an FAQ that responds to the content of the video: http://thiniceweightloss.com/backer-faq/
@Chandu: Thank you! If you have further questions email support@thiniceweightloss.com so we can coordinate with you. We are at your service even though the campaign has ended. Thank you!
@Chandu: That question can only properly be answered by a doctor who understands the specific condition of their patient. Those with heart conditions should always seek out medical advice before taking on any concerted body transformation attempts to discuss the safety in relation to their specific condition.
@Chandu: Thanks for your message. That's right the app is relatively complete, although we will continue to improve it after we get the feedback of users. We are in the process of getting it up on the app stores so people can take a look but we reserve the right to make changes to improve it before the product is shipped.
Thank you also for sharing your rationale behind changing your pledge. We understand that getting involved with projects at this stage is not for everyone so we are eager to hear your feedback of the product when it is on the stable on the mass market. Thank you very much for your support.
@Viral Videos: We do appreciate your opinion but the science behind what we are trying to do with this project is extensive. We don't claim that weight-loss can EVER be easy. Even with our device, dedication to a program of regular use and coping with the initial chill of the stimulation will be necessary. Proper nutrition and exercise are also very important aspects of any weight-loss journey. We are simply providing people with an extra tool to try to achieve their goals that represents a different vertical of calorie burning that currently readily exists in a product. Our goal is to help people approach their goals in a more holistic way and not to claim to be some sort of miracle solution.
@Hector: Thank you for your message. We appreciate your opinion and feedback. The 1.0 is a finished product that we have provided video of and performs very well. We realize that backing projects at this stage is not in everyone's comfort zone and we truly hope that when the product is on the market you will take a look at it. Thank you for your interim support!
am backing out I wanted a free thin ice 2.0 and am not going to spend 100 plus dollars on something that might be fake seeing the track record with the thin ice 1.0 and there's no real evidence that the thin ice even works so am out
@Jake: Thanks for your message. Sorry to hear you have opted out. We respect your decision and sorry we were not quicker in getting you the information you sought. We've been running around like chickens with our heads cut off with all the questions and things behind the scenes and getting additional materials made has been a struggle. We're still posting the battery update before the end of the campaign if you want to look at it. Please keep track of us. We hope to keep you engaged enough to join us one day! Thanks so much for your support and feedback so far!
Sorry guys I am out, there will be another spot opening up. I just have a bad feeling about this, wish you were able to just give me some of the answers I asked for, but if I don't back out now I might miss the end time.
Gl everyone, hope this turns out better then the indiegogo campaign. I plan to keep tabs on this, once the product is launched, maybe ill buy it from your website :)
@NERO: Thank you for your message. We have a filmed segment on CNBC's Power Pitch segment airing in mid-April with third parties reviewing the vest. Please feel free to watch it. We are transparent about estimating the calorie burning effects in a quantified way based on a literature review. When we have our trials done we will no longer need to say "estimated". We have government funded studies going on at York University in Toronto and are beginning extenstive indepedent trials as soon as we have enough 2.0 vests to do so. The battery is located in the arch of the back and is a customized design so it fits the shape there. We are releasing an update before the campaign is over about the location of the battery since it has been a popular question. Please look out for that very soon. Thank you for your ongoing questions.
@Adam... are there any 3rd party reviews of the v1.0?
Do you have published results from your v1.0 trials (I assume these are what you're basing your fat burning performance claims on)?
I know you're still in development but it would be good to see more detail with regards the v2.0 expected weight, where is the battery located, how large is the battery, is there a local control interface like the v1.0?
@Oli: Thank you for your message. The Peltier elements currently have a surface area of about 2 by 2 inches and stimulate the the upper chest and upper back. You can see the locations of their placement in the video of the 1.0. We currently one use 2 as our theoretical research seems to suggest this should still yield positive results while allowing us to vastly conserve battery power and thus extend the lifespan. The material covering the Peltier is designed to help the cool spread out so the cooling sensation is felt over a wider area than the Peltier itself on the upper and back and chest where thermoreceptor concentrations are high. Please let us know if you have further questions.
@Andreas: Thank you for your message. It's good to hear your feedback. It always good to know what people are thinking so we can continue to improve our operations. We are also excited to get more feedback than we already have to make the vest even better. The 2.0 vest is designed to look exactly like a dark tank top so we are glad it looks like one so far. We are excited to keep it that way as we continue to improve functionality. Thank you again.
@creator
How big is the area of the peltier elements which has contact to the Skin. How many peltier elements Are placed and where there Are placed in the vest.
Thank you!
I'm going to cancel my plegde for some reasons.
- Version 1 of the vest is still not on the market (you have no real feedback to improve the vest and it's features)
- You are not able to show any detailed image or video from this early stage Version 2. All you show is a dark tank top. That's not very much to get 158 $ for.
@NERO: The 2.0 prototype is in a design stage with rudimentary functionality as we continue to implement features from the 1.0 to the 2.0 in a minimalist way and consider even more efficient additions as we do so.
Other than the videos of the functional 1.0 vest that we have provided links to in a previous update, what would you like to see to make you comfortable the 1.0 vest works? It's fully functional and Bluetooth connected and we can share more if you have additional questions.
Thank you for letting us know. It is important to us to know what the major curiosities of our backers and potential backers are. Thank you very much!
@Chandu: Thank you for your kind message. If you could let us know exactly what you'd like to see to comfortable let us know. Most backers seem to be satisfied with what has been presented so far so the more we know about what else we can do from those who still have some questions the more accurate information we can provide! Thank you so much!
@Medhat: If you would like to add the battery then please add $15 CAD to your original pledge and we will add the battery manually. That is the best way to add the battery. I hope this helps!
@Chandu: Thank you for your message. We're very sorry if we were not clear in the video and on our page but the 2.0 prototype is not at the level of sophistication you are asking to see yet. It is not Bluetooth-connected yet etc. because it is not scheduled to be shipped until December and we are making improvements before that time.
The 1.0 version IS fully functional and Bluetooth-connected demonstrating the technology is completely viable. We simply need to implement a few new features to help slim down the design to the 2.0 vest seen in the video while improving the battery etc.
The 2.0 simply extends the concepts of the 1.0 (which are working very smoothly) and minimizing the design. We don't foresee any substantial hurdles with these modifications. Let us know if you have further questions.
@Adam...please correct me if i'm wrong... so basically you have no actual evidence of a working v2.0 prototype?
I know your basing a lot of your expected v2.0 performance on the v1.0 but i don't see any actual factual evidence ie real world results, performance measurements, etc of the v1.0?
I pledged 1 thin ice vest from few weeks ago . today I make pledge to extra battery but I received a message from you telling me my pledge change from 188$ to 15$ so I want ask I lose my first pledge or what happen pls answer me
@Ulisses: Thank you for your message. BackerClub members should direct their special bonus inquiries to the BackerClub public comment section or support@thinicweightloss.com to protect the details of your secret bonus offer! The patches are replaceable, last 4-hours and what allow the bracelet to have its effects. Thanks for sending any follow-ups to support@thiniceweightloss.com or posting on the BackerClub dashboard for this project. Thank you!
@Andreas: Thank you for your message. The pictures of the 2.0 vest prototype are in the video and in the body of the story section. You will be getting that, the app which controls the temperature of that vest via Bluetooth connectivity and our e-book with nutritional advice etc. Please do let us know if you have any specific questions remaining of what you will be getting so we can help you. Also, once we pass $300,000 each backer will receive 1 undershirt per vest they have pledged for. All the most frequently asked questions we are getting from backers are being put into the FAQ section but we understand some people have additional questions. If you would like to let us know what you are curious about we are glad to provide answers quickly! Thank you very much.
@Hector: Thank you for your message. It definitely looks like we will make it! To clarify, as per our stretch goal update, people will receive a free thermally conductive undershirt for each vest they have already purchased. Not a a free vest. I hope that makes sense! We really appreciate your support!
Hi TI Team,
From BackerClub I have : "Pledge for a Thin Ice System and get a FREE Joule Caffeinated Bracelet OR 2 Thin Ice Extra Batteries and a Month Supply of Patches. Say "BackerClub" in the public comments to redeem!"
"a Month Supply of Patches" - what for?
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Ältere Kommentare anzeigenAdam Paulin Projektgründer am July 15
@Viral Videos: Thank you for your feedback but as mentioned several times below in the comments, this is not the case. The video does get many things wrong and here is an FAQ that responds to the content of the video: http://thiniceweightloss.com/backer-faq/
Viral Videos am July 14
CALL AND DISPUTE CHARGE NOW
your involved in a large scale scam
Viral Videos am July 14
https://www.youtube.com/watch…
Thin Ice Exposed: 14 sites - $700,000 Raised - No Products Shipped
Pavel Dolber am July 14
So when should I tell you shipping address. ?????
tristan haspala am July 14
Hello, I wanted to add 2 batteries but couldn't, is there another way to order extra batteries?
Thanks
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@Chandu: Thank you! If you have further questions email support@thiniceweightloss.com so we can coordinate with you. We are at your service even though the campaign has ended. Thank you!
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
Really! i can't find it in my email. my bad. i should have not changed my pledge.
Anyways Congratulations!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
Hi Chandu
I sent you an email. It is approved!
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
Hello @Creator,
I have not received any reply for the PM i've sent you. please reply ASAP. so, that i can take a decision.
Thanks!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@ Chandu, This is Mike from Customer service. Adam will respond to your message soon!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@Andy Taylor: That is understandable. Thank you for the well wishes!
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
@CREATOR,
I have sent you a PM. Please let me know your decision.
Thanks.
Andy Taylor
Superbacker
am July 14
I'm out. Good luck with the project, I've not seen enough to keep my bid live. Hope it works out for you.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@Chandu: No problem, Chandu!
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
Thanks for the reply. i thought of giving this as a gift to my mother.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@Chandu: That question can only properly be answered by a doctor who understands the specific condition of their patient. Those with heart conditions should always seek out medical advice before taking on any concerted body transformation attempts to discuss the safety in relation to their specific condition.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@Chandu: Thanks for your message. That's right the app is relatively complete, although we will continue to improve it after we get the feedback of users. We are in the process of getting it up on the app stores so people can take a look but we reserve the right to make changes to improve it before the product is shipped.
Thank you also for sharing your rationale behind changing your pledge. We understand that getting involved with projects at this stage is not for everyone so we are eager to hear your feedback of the product when it is on the stable on the mass market. Thank you very much for your support.
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
@CREATOR,
Can this be used by heart patients?
Thanks.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 14
@Viral Videos: We do appreciate your opinion but the science behind what we are trying to do with this project is extensive. We don't claim that weight-loss can EVER be easy. Even with our device, dedication to a program of regular use and coping with the initial chill of the stimulation will be necessary. Proper nutrition and exercise are also very important aspects of any weight-loss journey. We are simply providing people with an extra tool to try to achieve their goals that represents a different vertical of calorie burning that currently readily exists in a product. Our goal is to help people approach their goals in a more holistic way and not to claim to be some sort of miracle solution.
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
@Creator,
I have not backed any project without working prototypes and proof.
So, I have changed my pledge from 298 CAD to Contribution of 1 CAD
Will definitely buy once it successfully hits the market. Yeah.. i know ill be loosing early discount but can't back any project without enough proof.
Wish this product becomes a reality..
ALL THE BEST!
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 14
@CREATOR,
Since, you have already created an App for the vest, give us link to download the app.
Thanks.
Viral Videos am July 13
reddit has alot to say about this
https://www.reddit.com/r/shittykickstarters/comments/4ruop8/looking_at_the_comments_section_on_this_page/
Viral Videos am July 13
so your making a 2.0 to rip off more people before 1.0 is even released lol
if losing weight was this easy it would exist already , there is no shortcut
just another rip off for another generation
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Ishmael: Thank you for letting us know! Welcome to the "Thin Ice party" :)
Ishmael Cinco
Superbacker
am July 13
BackerClub
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Hector: Thank you for your message. We appreciate your opinion and feedback. The 1.0 is a finished product that we have provided video of and performs very well. We realize that backing projects at this stage is not in everyone's comfort zone and we truly hope that when the product is on the market you will take a look at it. Thank you for your interim support!
Hector am July 13
am backing out I wanted a free thin ice 2.0 and am not going to spend 100 plus dollars on something that might be fake seeing the track record with the thin ice 1.0 and there's no real evidence that the thin ice even works so am out
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Jake: Thanks for your message. Sorry to hear you have opted out. We respect your decision and sorry we were not quicker in getting you the information you sought. We've been running around like chickens with our heads cut off with all the questions and things behind the scenes and getting additional materials made has been a struggle. We're still posting the battery update before the end of the campaign if you want to look at it. Please keep track of us. We hope to keep you engaged enough to join us one day! Thanks so much for your support and feedback so far!
Jake Steele am July 13
Sorry guys I am out, there will be another spot opening up. I just have a bad feeling about this, wish you were able to just give me some of the answers I asked for, but if I don't back out now I might miss the end time.
Gl everyone, hope this turns out better then the indiegogo campaign. I plan to keep tabs on this, once the product is launched, maybe ill buy it from your website :)
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@NERO: Thank you for your message. We have a filmed segment on CNBC's Power Pitch segment airing in mid-April with third parties reviewing the vest. Please feel free to watch it. We are transparent about estimating the calorie burning effects in a quantified way based on a literature review. When we have our trials done we will no longer need to say "estimated". We have government funded studies going on at York University in Toronto and are beginning extenstive indepedent trials as soon as we have enough 2.0 vests to do so. The battery is located in the arch of the back and is a customized design so it fits the shape there. We are releasing an update before the campaign is over about the location of the battery since it has been a popular question. Please look out for that very soon. Thank you for your ongoing questions.
NERO
Superbacker
am July 13
@Adam... are there any 3rd party reviews of the v1.0?
Do you have published results from your v1.0 trials (I assume these are what you're basing your fat burning performance claims on)?
I know you're still in development but it would be good to see more detail with regards the v2.0 expected weight, where is the battery located, how large is the battery, is there a local control interface like the v1.0?
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Oli: Thank you for your message. The Peltier elements currently have a surface area of about 2 by 2 inches and stimulate the the upper chest and upper back. You can see the locations of their placement in the video of the 1.0. We currently one use 2 as our theoretical research seems to suggest this should still yield positive results while allowing us to vastly conserve battery power and thus extend the lifespan. The material covering the Peltier is designed to help the cool spread out so the cooling sensation is felt over a wider area than the Peltier itself on the upper and back and chest where thermoreceptor concentrations are high. Please let us know if you have further questions.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Andreas: Thank you for your message. It's good to hear your feedback. It always good to know what people are thinking so we can continue to improve our operations. We are also excited to get more feedback than we already have to make the vest even better. The 2.0 vest is designed to look exactly like a dark tank top so we are glad it looks like one so far. We are excited to keep it that way as we continue to improve functionality. Thank you again.
OZ am July 13
@creator
How big is the area of the peltier elements which has contact to the Skin. How many peltier elements Are placed and where there Are placed in the vest.
Thank you!
Andreas David am July 13
I'm going to cancel my plegde for some reasons.
- Version 1 of the vest is still not on the market (you have no real feedback to improve the vest and it's features)
- You are not able to show any detailed image or video from this early stage Version 2. All you show is a dark tank top. That's not very much to get 158 $ for.
zijun liu am July 13
I added $15 for an extra battery
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@NERO: The 2.0 prototype is in a design stage with rudimentary functionality as we continue to implement features from the 1.0 to the 2.0 in a minimalist way and consider even more efficient additions as we do so.
Other than the videos of the functional 1.0 vest that we have provided links to in a previous update, what would you like to see to make you comfortable the 1.0 vest works? It's fully functional and Bluetooth connected and we can share more if you have additional questions.
Thank you for letting us know. It is important to us to know what the major curiosities of our backers and potential backers are. Thank you very much!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Chandu: Thank you for your kind message. If you could let us know exactly what you'd like to see to comfortable let us know. Most backers seem to be satisfied with what has been presented so far so the more we know about what else we can do from those who still have some questions the more accurate information we can provide! Thank you so much!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Medhat: If you would like to add the battery then please add $15 CAD to your original pledge and we will add the battery manually. That is the best way to add the battery. I hope this helps!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Hyeong: Thank you for your good wishes! We are so thankful for your support.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Chandu: Thank you for your message. We're very sorry if we were not clear in the video and on our page but the 2.0 prototype is not at the level of sophistication you are asking to see yet. It is not Bluetooth-connected yet etc. because it is not scheduled to be shipped until December and we are making improvements before that time.
The 1.0 version IS fully functional and Bluetooth-connected demonstrating the technology is completely viable. We simply need to implement a few new features to help slim down the design to the 2.0 vest seen in the video while improving the battery etc.
The 2.0 simply extends the concepts of the 1.0 (which are working very smoothly) and minimizing the design. We don't foresee any substantial hurdles with these modifications. Let us know if you have further questions.
NERO
Superbacker
am July 13
@Adam...please correct me if i'm wrong... so basically you have no actual evidence of a working v2.0 prototype?
I know your basing a lot of your expected v2.0 performance on the v1.0 but i don't see any actual factual evidence ie real world results, performance measurements, etc of the v1.0?
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 13
@Creator,
Congratulations on passing 300k CAD! But, we need one last update before the end of the campaign.. to assure us that everything is Genuine.
ALL THE BEST!
MEDHAT ABUSABAA am July 13
I pledged 1 thin ice vest from few weeks ago . today I make pledge to extra battery but I received a message from you telling me my pledge change from 188$ to 15$ so I want ask I lose my first pledge or what happen pls answer me
Hyeong Ji Kim am July 13
Just added 20 CAD for an extra undershirt, + congrats for passing your goal!!
chandu ramoju
Superbacker
am July 13
@CREATOR,
THE LAST UPDATE IS NOT AT ALL ENOUGH TO COMPROMISE.
SO, PLEASE MAKE A LIVE VIDEO OF VEST 2.O WORKING PROTOTYPE AND BATTERY.
WE WANT TO SEE THE LIVE CALORIE BURNING AND FEEDBACK FROM LIVE PEOPLE.
ALL THE BEST!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Ulisses: Thank you for your message. BackerClub members should direct their special bonus inquiries to the BackerClub public comment section or support@thinicweightloss.com to protect the details of your secret bonus offer! The patches are replaceable, last 4-hours and what allow the bracelet to have its effects. Thanks for sending any follow-ups to support@thiniceweightloss.com or posting on the BackerClub dashboard for this project. Thank you!
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Andreas: Thank you for your message. The pictures of the 2.0 vest prototype are in the video and in the body of the story section. You will be getting that, the app which controls the temperature of that vest via Bluetooth connectivity and our e-book with nutritional advice etc. Please do let us know if you have any specific questions remaining of what you will be getting so we can help you. Also, once we pass $300,000 each backer will receive 1 undershirt per vest they have pledged for. All the most frequently asked questions we are getting from backers are being put into the FAQ section but we understand some people have additional questions. If you would like to let us know what you are curious about we are glad to provide answers quickly! Thank you very much.
Adam Paulin Projektgründer am July 13
@Hector: Thank you for your message. It definitely looks like we will make it! To clarify, as per our stretch goal update, people will receive a free thermally conductive undershirt for each vest they have already purchased. Not a a free vest. I hope that makes sense! We really appreciate your support!
Ulisses Vieira Lopes
Superbacker
am July 13
Hi TI Team,
From BackerClub I have : "Pledge for a Thin Ice System and get a FREE Joule Caffeinated Bracelet OR 2 Thin Ice Extra Batteries and a Month Supply of Patches. Say "BackerClub" in the public comments to redeem!"
"a Month Supply of Patches" - what for?