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Journey: Wrath of Demons is a cooperative miniatures board game for 1-4 players. Is it your destiny to save the world?
Journey: Wrath of Demons is a cooperative miniatures board game for 1-4 players. Is it your destiny to save the world?
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Production Update

Posted by Marrow Production (Creator)
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Hello Backers!

We normally wait until we complete milestones, as it feels like we have really accomplished something. Since the last update, we have been working hard but we are currently in the middle of many tasks, so we are just keeping you in the loop. Hopefully there are no surprises here, as we think things are moving along well. 

As previously stated, the printing presses are rolling. The final components need to be printed, dried, coated, compressed and collated. We have already given the factory the minis and interior packing, so everything is on site for them to pack the boxes. We will visit the factory in the last week of April to check on the process and we’ll take some pictures. We really want to see that they are packing the boxes correctly.

We have been looking at shipping options. We have not signed a deal yet as we are trying to find the best service at the best price. Compared to the other material being shipped out of China, our shipment is small and can easily be used to fill some empty space in a container, so we are hoping to get a good rate in the end. Also we are getting quotes for the rest of the shipping, once the packages leave the docks at their destination. We are beginning to create procedures for the distributors, as they will need to address packages and do some minor repacking.

Wave 1 will not be just the core game. All the resin minis that we have in our hands will be shipped with wave 1. We are still casting new items, so this list might change, but here is the list of miniatures that are ready today:

  • All the resin scenery
  • All four pilgrims
  • Berrok Bull Warriors
  • Bullserkers

We expect more to be ready before we do the final packing, but no promises – it’s pretty hectic here.

We understand you want to know when this will arrive, so let us share a rough estimate. The printers say this will all be finished on April 30th and we can use this as the start of our estimate. Think of these dates as the earliest possible dates that things will occur, not the actual delivery date.

US and Canada

Here are the remaining steps with estimated durations. Given the uncertainties, we are making our estimates in weeks, not days:

  •  Transport the pallets to the dock in China – 1 week.
  •  Ship to the US – 3 weeks.
  •  Unload and clear customs in the US – 2 weeks.
  •  Load onto a truck, transport to the US distributor – 1 week.
  •  Repack and pass on to the local delivery service – 3 weeks over all, but some go out almost immediately.
  • Start to arrive with our backers – 1 week after they leave the distributor.

If this starts on April 30th, then the packages should arrive between June 26th and July 16th. Here is how it looks graphically:

 EU

Shipping to the EU follows the same steps, but the transport ship takes much longer to get to Europe, 5 weeks instead of 3 weeks. This shifts everything else, so we are talking early July to the start of August. Take this with a pinch of salt – shipping times to Europe have much more variation that to the US, as some ships stop at many ports along the way.

Asia regions 

These will be sent out using the Shen Fung Express service. These backers will be among the first to get J:WoD!

ROW

We will ship the remaining packages using the Hong Kong post service. These backers might get their packages early too!  

There might be some last minute adjustments to Asian and ROW shipments, depending on deals we can make. 

Estimates

Remember, these are estimates and many of the tasks are not being done by us, so we are relying on what we are being told. Problems will occur, even though we will be monitoring each step carefully. If you start treating these as hard dates, you will jinx it and cause a delay. If you book vacation from work to stay home and play, you will cause the transport ship to sink!

We know this looks like an impossibly long time for the last few steps but we have seen Kickstarter projects that we have backed have problems at this stage (no space on the transport ship, strikes at customs, no domestic trucks available, very slow repacking by distributors, etc). We will stay on top of this and keep you up to date.

More information to come!

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    1. Greyskull
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      Behind a kickstarter have no clue on what they are talking about...

    2. Greyskull
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      @Hubert: I am totally with you on this. If i may add... I backed quite somw games from Cmon: one was 2 and half month late and another one was one month late. I suppose they have learned from the past. Here we are talking about one year late. In september of the last year they were mentioning a possible december 2014 delivery... I have sometimes the impression that people behind a kickstarter on what they are talking about in terms of scheduling... Really no clue.

    3. Hubert on

      I think its safe to say these days that every single project will be about 6+ month delayed at least. I`m not talking about CMON or QG where you have at least an experience with timing/shipping etc. (even so their games are late). We are talking about 2 man company here. Look what has happened with FFP and their Brimstone - late. Mantic - late, SDE, AQ - late, Xia - late. Doesnt matter big or small there are some things you cannot predict. It all goes to planning and setting up realistic dates. Good planning is something that I`m missing in recent projects. This and lack of proper communication with backers

    4. Štěpán Honc on

      Excellent news! Thank you for updates (still probably the best updated delayed campaign I know). Hope you'll enjoy the shipping :) For others: Guys, chill out. Nobody is cheating on you, nobody is obviously being lazy. Delays for all these reasons are very usual with every creative company, especially if they are new and care about the final product. I've hassled once with release of new CD and however it's got great sales and reviews eventually, I still regret we let other people to push us, can't listen to it myself anymore...

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      Matrim on

      I agree with the delay being a risk known when backing. But, why the other sculpts are late ?

    6. Andrea IlBassi on

      Considering the delay i was hoping to get more plastic minia, 'cause i got only the "player" sets, not for "painter".
      sigh

    7. James on

      Agreed, it comes with the territory. Based off everything I've seen, the quality outweighs any downside to a delay in my book.

    8. Ephasian on

      It's an estimated date.
      1 year late isn't that bad, Kingdom Death is more than 2 years too late.
      Some things are unforseen.

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      Warner on

      @Greyskull, these are two young guys from HK trying to make their dream come true, it's exactly the reason crowdfunding was invented. I know delays suck but it comes with the territory.

    10. Greyskull
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      Good news? The game is 1 year late. It is no good news... There was a moment in which they were hoping for Christmas 2014... The guys had really no clue...

    11. Daniel Wickel on

      Of course, one year delay for Wave 1 is a lot, and kinda sucks.
      But as long as the Final Product is at least as good as the Product I saw in Essen, and, and that is important, as long as you keep us informed, I'm fine with that.

    12. Maguila Gorila on

      Please say something about expansions. We paid a lot of money for them.

    13. Angus Lee
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      I mean Kamikaze actually

    14. Angus Lee
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      1. Is the date April 30 for production of all printed materials or packaging of all items? If your estimation is based on finishing packaging before April 30 but actually the factory just finishes production on April 30, all of your estimation should be delayed by at least one week.
      2. When you say "Shen Fung Express" , do you mean "Shun Feng Express"? Or are you thinking of Kamikazi? (J/K)

    15. Andreas Kotschote
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      This will still ship from inside the EU right? Still not a single word about the expansions??

    16. Joshua Russell on

      Only a full year late! Who could have predicted that... Seems like there was at least one person... And there's really no excuse of the resin not being shipped long ago.

    17. Matthew Dimalanta
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      Thank you for the update. I like it when you keep us in the loop instead of only contacting us for milestones. We'll keep our fingers crossed and hope for no delays, but if they come, we know you are doing your best.

    18. Arthur K on

      Congrats with the baby!!!

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      Akelarre on

      over a year late. I think it's excessive. I hope the delay worthwhile. but I recognize that I was past me the illusion of the game.

    20. MiniatureAddict (needs to paint) on

      thanks for the update. love the gantt chart

    21. SerenityNow98 on

      Thanks for the update. Where are we with the other sculpts? Do we have any timeline on non core stuff?

    22. Balgin Stondraeg
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      Thanks for the update. That's quite informative :).