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Areal prototype footage -- anomaly zone:

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The following video is early prototype footage that's not representative of Areal's final quality:

And here is another video of our team: 

     The first video shown above was made in two weeks. We hope that the early footage that we've demonstrated, shows you that we're a team that's actively working towards making a great game that we think you'll all enjoy. We hope that you'll help us make Areal a reality and support our Kickstarter!

     We know how to make games and are very passionate about Areal. What we've found out though, is that making and launching a Kickstarter is much harder than actually making the game! One of the biggest mistakes that we made was focusing too much on S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and not showing footage of Areal itself. This raised a lot of negativity in the community, and many accused us of being a fraud. We just wanted to show people that we were responsible for creating S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. We were completely unprepared for the wave of negativity that surrounded our Kickstarter and honestly, were more than a little discouraged.

        But that did not break our will to make Areal, and it did not break our desire to create an awesome game that players around the world will enjoy. Within our game, you'll have to dare yourself to encounter various hostile flora and fauna that has been irreversibly mutated because of the events surrounding Areal, and which live by their own rules. You'll try to wield unheard of power that was created by a renowned fantasy writer, and adapted into video game form by developers who were responsible for creating a defining cult-hit video game series.

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    1. Ronald Clark on

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    2. Ronald Clark on

      Areal First Person Shooter Prototype Trailer Unveiled By West Games (video)
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal/widget/video.html

      A quick teaser trailer has been released for the new first-person shooter (FPS) video game called Areal that is currently under development by the game studio responsible for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, West Games.

      West Games are currently running a Kickstarter crowd funding campaign to help fund the development of a new Areal game. Check out the early prototype footage which is not representative of Areal’s final quality after the jump.

      West Games explain : “Areal is a new video game that’s being made by senior ex-S.T.A.L.K.E.R. developers. It features a massive and intricately detailed open world environment that is extremely varied and colorful, even though it’s set in a post-apocalyptic setting.

      Areal depicts a future where civilization has fallen apart due to an unearthly material called Metamorphite, which eventually spreads, corrupts and infects the whole world. The source of Metamorphite comes from a meteor that impacted the earth long ago, and it is the site of constant conflict and bloodshed.

      Areal’s story is not linear – players can choose how their characters act and speak – everything from how you talk to who you kill changes the storyline of Areal. There is no morality system in Areal, so you are free to make choices that you think are best in any given situation, without being blinded and limited by a standard good/evil system.

      Ultimately, Areal is the culmination of everything that we want to see from a post apocalyptic game, and it’s something that we can realize with full creative freedom because of the unique platform that is Kickstarter. All we need is your support!”

      For more information on the new Areal game for West Games jump over to the Kickstarter website for details and to help with its development.

    3. Roy Anderson on

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    4. Roy Anderson on

      I LOVE TROLLS, BUT ONLY IN FAIRY TALES. HERE WE FACE ANOTHER KIND OF TROLLS – INTERNET INSURGENTS! YOU CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY OF GAME`S PLAYERS TO GET RID OF THESE UGLY TROLLS! JUST SHARE THIS POST AND EVERYONE WILL BE GRATEFUL TO YOU!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Maurice Burgmans
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      Judicator
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      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      DEAR GUYS, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT I`M POSTING ONLY HERE AND HAVEN`T PARTICIPATED AS WELL AS WON`T TAKE PART IN ANY OTHER CHATS OR COMMENT WALLS!!! SEE THIS LINK! http://imgur.com/AkoYBAS
      THAT`S NOT ME IN THIS STRANGE CHAT! THERE IS A VIRUS AND LOT`S OF PEOPLE SUFFER FROM BEING FAKED!!!

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      Maurice Burgmans on

      Again, these videos are not Areal's original work. They come directly from the Unity assets packs, a commercial off the shelf engine.

    6. Ronald Clark on

      West Games release first footage of controversial STALKER successor Areal
      http://www.pcgamesn.com/west-games-release-first-footage-controversial-stalker-successor-areal

      The Ukrainian developers behind the most troubled Kickstarter project in yonks have released the first footage of their intended STALKER successor, Areal. The “early prototype” video is a bid to pull the campaign by its shoulders over the finish line - but is unlikely to sway would-be backers one way or the other.

      West Games say the footage is “not representative of Areal’s final quality”.

      Some of the right elements are there, though: a flashlight, a forest, and an anomalous crash site. And throughout, the comforting, ever-present blip of something like a geiger counter.

      But then there’s that stiff-looking character model. And did anybody manage to identify the bright orange mammal?

      It’s entirely possible that Areal will make it. West Games have garnered $37,091 of their $50,000 goal so far, and have six days to go yet. High-profile Kickstarter campaigns typically suffer a lull in the middle, and enjoy a rush towards the end. But then, this has not been a typical Kickstarter campaign.

      Since its inception, Areal’s campaign has been dogged by claims that its developers weren’t the STALKER veterans they said they were. But last week, GSC Game World and Vostok alumnus Alexey Sytyanov joined Areal as producer.

      Are you one of the thousand who’ve taken a punt on Areal already?

    7. Ronald Clark on

      http://www.loadthegame.com/2014/07/18/new-video-shows-early-footage-areal/

      West Games has finally released prototype footage of their post-apocalyptic title Areal. It shows a man moving through not-so-friendly forest accompanied by an eerie soundtrack. It is the first time the developer has shown footage of the game, previous videos had only featured basic Unity assets along with video taken from previous S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games. As you might expect from a game that is still looking for funding, the Areal reveal trailer released is described as being “early prototype footage that’s not representative of Areal’s final quality.” The video was reportedly made in just two weeks and the development team has stated that they hope it will quell some of the fears that people had about the project.

      The video might well help to get more people interested in Areal, after what was a disastrous Kickstarter launch. Almost immediately after the developers launched their crowdfunding campaign they were accused of stealing assetsfrom other games while others attacked the claim that they had previously worked on the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series. Other concerns were raised over the fact that the team was only looking to raise $50,000, a figure that would in no way fund such a massive project. Most of these concerns have since been acknowledged and refuted by West Games in a series of updates on their Kickstarter page. The news that a leading designer from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. had also joined the team as a producer also calmed fears that Areal was a scam.

      Areal was first announced in June and was described as a spiritual successor to the cult series S.T.A.L.K.E.R. that would incorporate many elements of the first-person shooter. The developers are basing the plat on a book of the same name by author Sergey Tarmashev. They have so far managed to raise $37,340 of their $50,000 goal with just six days of the campaign remaining.

    8. Ronald Clark on

      PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!.

      In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

      Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.

      As noted in an OS News article titled "Why People Troll and How to Stop Them" (January 25, 2012), "The traditional definition of trolling includes intent. That is, trolls purposely disrupt forums. This definition is too narrow. Whether someone intends to disrupt a thread or not, the results are the same if they do." Others have addressed the same issue, e.g., Claire Hardaker, in her Ph.D. thesis "Trolling in asynchronous computer-mediated communication: From user discussions to academic definitions", and Dr. Phil. Popular recognition of the existence (and prevalence) of non-deliberate, "accidental trolls", has been documented widely, in sources as diverse as the Urban Dictionary, Nicole Sullivan's keynote speech at the 2012 Fluent Conference, titled "Don't Feed the Trolls" Gizmodo, online opinions on the subject written by Silicon Valley executives and comics.

      Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts – hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".

      Early incidents of trolling were considered to be the same as flaming, but this has changed with modern usage by the news media to refer to the creation of any content that targets another person. The Internet dictionary NetLingo suggests there are four grades of trolling: playtime trolling, tactical trolling, strategic trolling, and domination trolling. The relationship between trolling and flaming was observed in open-access forums in California, on a series of modem-linked computers. CommuniTree was begun in 1978 but was closed in 1982 when accessed by high school teenagers, becoming a ground for trashing and abuse. Some psychologists have suggested that flaming would be caused by deindividuation or decreased self-evaluation: the anonymity of online postings would lead to disinhibition amongst individuals Others have suggested that although flaming and trolling is often unpleasant, it may be a form of normative behavior that expresses the social identity of a certain user group According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter, England, and Groningen, The Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."

      In academic literature, the practice of trolling was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:

      In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.

      Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community:

      Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they – and the troll – understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.

      Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling – where the rate of deception is high – many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.

      Susan Herring and colleagues in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature". Free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open, yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, and sexuality.

    9. Ronald Clark on

      West Games release first footage of controversial STALKER successor Areal
      http://www.pcgamesn.com/west-games-release-first-footage-controversial-stalker-successor-areal

      The Ukrainian developers behind the most troubled Kickstarter project in yonks have released the first footage of their intended STALKER successor, Areal. The “early prototype” video is a bid to pull the campaign by its shoulders over the finish line - but is unlikely to sway would-be backers one way or the other.

      West Games say the footage is “not representative of Areal’s final quality”.

      Some of the right elements are there, though: a flashlight, a forest, and an anomalous crash site. And throughout, the comforting, ever-present blip of something like a geiger counter.

      But then there’s that stiff-looking character model. And did anybody manage to identify the bright orange mammal?

      It’s entirely possible that Areal will make it. West Games have garnered $37,091 of their $50,000 goal so far, and have six days to go yet. High-profile Kickstarter campaigns typically suffer a lull in the middle, and enjoy a rush towards the end. But then, this has not been a typical Kickstarter campaign.

      Since its inception, Areal’s campaign has been dogged by claims that its developers weren’t the STALKER veterans they said they were. But last week, GSC Game World and Vostok alumnus Alexey Sytyanov joined Areal as producer.

      Are you one of the thousand who’ve taken a punt on Areal already?

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      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
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      Alex
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
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      TimoH
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      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
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      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
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      Alex
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
      http://i.imgur.com/pzhwubp.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
      http://i.imgur.com/29wVmwP.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
      http://i.imgur.com/epq0iK1.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
      http://i.imgur.com/Xdq53Ur.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
      http://i.imgur.com/pzhwubp.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
      http://i.imgur.com/29wVmwP.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
      http://i.imgur.com/epq0iK1.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
      http://i.imgur.com/Xdq53Ur.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

    12. Ronald Clark on

      $37,340 -> 50K
      YESSSSS!!!
      THANK YOU!!!!!!

    13. Ronald Clark on

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal/posts/919071
      :
      "
      Thank you to all the news sites that have written about our new teaser, and a special thanks to (among many others) Polygon, Gamer's Hell, PC Games N, Load the Game and Geeky Gadgets for reporting objectively and without any personal bias. Even bigger thanks to the 1,000+ people who have backed us so far. We are so happy to see more than 780 results show up when we type in "Areal Kickstarter" on google's news section! We have raised roughly 76 percent of our base goal, so we really are in the home stretch now! We need you, our backers' help, to get us to at least a hundred percent -- all you need to do is talk about Areal with your friends and share us on social media sites. If everyone got just one friend to contribute, then we would go way beyond our base goal. We have made some mistakes over the course of this Kickstarter, but the fact is that we are trying our hardest, and we hope that you'll help us make Areal a reality.
      «

      http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/18/5915089/areal-stalker-prototype-trailer
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      http://www.gamershell.com/news_166627.html
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      http://www.pcgamesn.com/west-games-release-first-footage-controversial-stalker-successor-areal
      !
      http://www.loadthegame.com/2014/07/18/new-video-shows-early-footage-areal/
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      http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/areal-first-person-shooter-prototype-trailer-unveiled-by-west-games-18-07-2014/

    14. Ronald Clark on

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal/posts/919071
      :
      "
      Thank you to all the news sites that have written about our new teaser, and a special thanks to (among many others) Polygon, Gamer's Hell, PC Games N, Load the Game and Geeky Gadgets for reporting objectively and without any personal bias. Even bigger thanks to the 1,000+ people who have backed us so far. We are so happy to see more than 780 results show up when we type in "Areal Kickstarter" on google's news section! We have raised roughly 76 percent of our base goal, so we really are in the home stretch now! We need you, our backers' help, to get us to at least a hundred percent -- all you need to do is talk about Areal with your friends and share us on social media sites. If everyone got just one friend to contribute, then we would go way beyond our base goal. We have made some mistakes over the course of this Kickstarter, but the fact is that we are trying our hardest, and we hope that you'll help us make Areal a reality.
      «

      http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/18/5915089/areal-stalker-prototype-trailer
      !
      http://www.gamershell.com/news_166627.html
      !
      http://www.pcgamesn.com/west-games-release-first-footage-controversial-stalker-successor-areal
      !
      http://www.loadthegame.com/2014/07/18/new-video-shows-early-footage-areal/
      !
      http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/areal-first-person-shooter-prototype-trailer-unveiled-by-west-games-18-07-2014/

    15. Ronald Clark on

      yes!!! nice update 22!
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      RUSSIAN PRESIDENT!
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      !YESSSSSS!
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      http://i.imgur.com/WXUhpyk.jpg
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      NO WAR!
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    16. Ronald Clark on

      West Game's prototype does not use the assets that you are claiming that they use, so stop spreading lies about them. Stop discrediting them!

      http://i.imgur.com/lrxjzTt.jpg

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      ART ANALYS!

    17. Alex on

      ********************WARNING NEW AND CURRENT BACKERS**********************************
      EVERYONE, Please go report this campaign. West Games Spam Their Campaign. It was proved multiple times that they create fake accounts to pledge their own campaign and they spam comments section like crazy in order to hide negative comments about their shady campaign. Multiple times we proved that developers used copyrighted materials and assets that belongs to others. There is multiple screenshots was upload that revealing that their campaign is copy past of someones else work. PLEASE REPORT, ask your friends to come here and help us fight with this Dirty behavior. Kickstarter doesn't give a $hit about us lets scream louder. COME ON GUYS TIME TO ACT. 4 days left and they keep adding their own money, fight back right now is time to act aggressively!!!

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      Brent Taylor on

      Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America The adventures of Russian agents like The Ghost of Marius the Giraffe, Gay Turtle, and Ass — exposed for the first time. posted on June 2, 2014, at 10:48 a.m. Max Seddon BuzzFeed Staff Justine Zwiebel / BuzzFeed Russia’s campaign to shape international opinion around its invasion of Ukraine has extended to recruiting and training a new cadre of online trolls that have been deployed to spread the Kremlin’s message on the comments section of top American websites. Plans attached to emails leaked by a mysterious Russian hacker collective show IT managers reporting on a new ideological front against the West in the comments sections of Fox News, Huffington Post, The Blaze, Politico, and WorldNetDaily. The bizarre hive of social media activity appears to be part of a two-pronged Kremlin campaign to claim control over the internet, launching a million-dollar army of trolls to mold American public opinion as it cracks down on internet freedom at home. “Foreign media are currently actively forming a negative image of the Russian Federation in the eyes of the global community,” one of the project’s team members, Svetlana Boiko, wrote in a strategy document. “Additionally, the discussions formed by comments to those articles are also negative in tone. “Like any brand formed by popular opinion, Russia has its supporters (‘brand advocates’) and its opponents. The main problem is that in the foreign internet community, the ratio of supporters and opponents of Russia is about 20/80 respectively.” The documents show instructions provided to the commenters that detail the workload expected of them. On an average working day, the Russians are to post on news articles 50 times. Each blogger is to maintain six Facebook accounts publishing at least three posts a day and discussing the news in groups at least twice a day. By the end of the first month, they are expected to have won 500 subscribers and get at least five posts on each item a day. On Twitter, the bloggers are expected to manage 10 accounts with up to 2,000 followers and tweet 50 times a day. They are to post messages along themes called “American Dream” and “I Love Russia.” The archetypes for the accounts are called Handkerchief, Gay Turtle, The Ghost of Marius the Giraffe, Left Breast, Black Breast, and Ass, for reasons that are not immediately clear. According to the documents, which are attached to several hundred emails sent to the project’s leader, Igor Osadchy, the effort was launched in April and is led by a firm called the Internet Research Agency. It’s based in a Saint Petersburg suburb, and the documents say it employs hundreds of people across Russia who promote Putin in comments on Russian blogs. Osadchy told BuzzFeed he had never worked for the Internet Research Agency and that the extensive documents — including apparent budgeting for his $35,000 salary — were an “unsuccessful provocation.” He declined to comment on the content of the leaks. The Kremlin declined to comment. The Internet Research Agency has not commented on the leak. Definitively proving the authenticity of the documents and their authors’ ties to the Kremlin is, by the nature of the subject, not easy. The project’s cost, scale, and awkward implementation have led many observers in Russia to doubt, however, that it could have come about in any other way. “What, you think crazy Russians all learned English en masse and went off to comment on articles?” said Leonid Bershidsky, a media executive and Bloomberg View columnist. “If it looks like Kremlin shit, smells like Kremlin shit, and tastes like Kremlin shit too — then it’s Kremlin shit.” Despite efforts to hire English teachers for the trolls, most of the comments are written in barely coherent English. “I think the whole world is realizing what will be with Ukraine, and only U.S. keep on fuck around because of their great plans are doomed to failure,” reads one post from an unnamed forum, used as an example in the leaked documents. The trolls appear to have taken pains to learn the sites’ different commenting systems. A report on initial efforts to post comments discusses the types of profanity and abuse that are allowed on some sites, but not others. “Direct offense of Americans as a race are not published (‘Your nation is a nation of complete idiots’),” the author wrote of fringe conspiracy site WorldNetDaily, “nor are vulgar reactions to the political work of Barack Obama (‘Obama did shit his pants while talking about foreign affairs, how you can feel yourself psychologically comfortable with pants full of shit?’).” Another suggested creating “up to 100” fake accounts on the Huffington Post to master the site’s complicated commenting system. WorldNetDaily told BuzzFeed it had no ability to monitor whether it had been besieged by an army of Russian trolls in recent weeks. The other outlets did not respond to BuzzFeed’s queries. Some of the leaked documents also detail what appear to be extensive efforts led by hundreds of freelance bloggers to comment on Russian-language sites. The bloggers hail from cities throughout Russia; their managers give them ratings based on the efficiency and “authenticity,” as well as the number of domains they post from. Novaya Gazeta, Russia’s only independent investigative newspaper, infiltrated its “troll farm” of commenters on Russian blogs last September. Russia’s “troll army” is just one part of a massive propaganda campaign the Kremlin has unleashed since the Ukrainian crisis exploded in February. Russian state TV endlessly asserts that Kiev’s interim government is under the thumb of “fascists” and “neo-Nazis” intent on oppressing Russian-speaking Ukrainians and exerts a mesmerizing hold on many in the country’s southeast, where the channels are popular. Ukraine has responded by banning all Russian state channels, barring entry to most Russian journalists, and treats some of the more obviously pro-rebel Russian reporters as enemy combatants. The trolling project’s finances are appropriately lavish for its considerable scale. A budget for April 2014, its first month, lists costs for 25 employees and expenses that together total over $75,000. The Internet Research Agency itself, founded last summer, now employs over 600 people and, if spending levels from December 2013 to April continue, is set to budget for over $10 million in 2014, according to the documents. Half of its budget is earmarked to be paid in cash. Two Russian media reports partly based on other selections from the documents attest that the campaign is directly orchestrated by the Kremlin. Business newspaper Vedomosti, citing sources close to Putin’s presidential administration, said last week that the campaign was directly orchestrated by the government and included expatriate Russian bloggers in Germany, India, and Thailand. Novaya Gazeta claimed this week that the campaign is run by Evgeny Prigozhin, a restaurateur who catered Putin’s re-inauguration in 2012. Prigozhin has reportedly orchestrated several other elaborate Kremlin-funded campaigns against opposition members and the independent media. Emails from the hacked trove show an accountant for the Internet Research Agency approving numerous payments with an accountant from Prigozhin’s catering holding, Concord. Several people who follow the Russian internet closely told BuzzFeed the Internet Research Energy is only one of several firms believed to be employing pro-Kremlin comment trolls. That has long been suspected based on the comments under articles about Russia on many other sites, such as Kremlin propaganda network RT’s wildly successful YouTube channel. The editor of The Guardian’s opinion page recently claimed that the site was the victim of an “orchestrated campaign.” Russian-language social networks are awash with accounts that lack the signs of real users, such as pictures, regular posting, or personal statements. These “dead souls,” as Vasily Gatov, a prominent Russian media analyst who blogs at Postjournalist, calls them, often surface to attack opposition figures or journalists who write articles critical of Putin’s government. The puerility of many of the comments recalls the pioneering trolling of now-defunct Kremlin youth group Nashi, whose leaders extensively discussed commenting on Russian opposition websites in emails leaked by hackers in 2012. Analysts say Timur Prokopenko, former head of rival pro-Putin youth group Young Guard, now runs internet projects in the presidential administration. “These docs are written in the same style and keep the same quality level,” said Alexei Sidorenko, a Poland-based Russian developer and net freedom activist. “They’re sketchy, incomplete, done really fast, have tables, copy-pastes — it’s the standard of a regular student’s work from Russian university.” The group that hacked the emails, which were shared with BuzzFeed last week and later uploaded online, is a new collective that ca

    19. Avalanche on

      Some have complained to Kickstarter about the spam destroying the main comments section. Have you tried to do anything about it from you end West Games?

    20. Alex on

      Since comment section is spammed by West Games fans/themselves. Please join us here:

      All People who want comment here and cant, we made Seperate Chat Room:
      http://www.e-chat.co/room/16662

    21. Alex on

      Well if it took them to create this scene (which was already made) 2 weeks, imagine what type of game you'll get ))

      Autumnal Nature Pack (https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/3649). And here is results:
      http://i.imgur.com/FCIkm0e.jpg

    22. Alex Trojer on

      This is Unity? Okay. I dont remember that WG told us they'll show footage with their new engine. And btw atmosphere seems great and for those who not know it: its the vest part from the stalkertitles!

    23. Андрей Хлыбов on

      Ну вот с таких роликов и стоило начинать сбор, ребят, но за 6 дней скорее всего дело не сдвинется с мертвой точки.

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      Tomáš Dolejší on

      @DraxQuin

      Do you honestly believe Eugene Kim will ever admit to any of that let alone apologize? Seeing the way they keep patronizing backers, you think they will treat the players with respect and dignity? I used to think they would do well restarting the campaign too. But this is is, mate, better get used to it.

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      DraxQuin on

      This shit is funny though, the bad shooting system where the gun doesn't have recoil, the sound effects for what look like little puppies running away and the awful animation that follows suite.

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      DraxQuin on

      @Tomas
      No I agree it's a prototype, it gives them the legitimacy to prevent KS from pulling them down, To be honest I've always seen concept art and gameplay as fair prototyping because most KS's have that anyway. The way they've acted and the lies they still continue to push means they're probably not going to get that $50k anyway though, hopefully they'll come back though and actually do this properly, as people have suggested come with footage, assets and all that good stuff then I have no doubt that even a $500k budget won't pass (but they also need to change their belligerent and un-transparent attitude.)

      They will however need to apologize to the backers for the lies they've spread and they way they've acted.

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      Tomáš Dolejší on

      So, the only way THAT would be an actual prototype is if the video was several months old, from the time when they were considering using Unity. That would be a "failed prototype", but it would still be a prototype. Too much of a stretch?

      But why not admit it and instead let people misinterpret it? Why not give all the information for once? Did they spent last two weeks obfuscating the footage so it isn't too obvious it's Unity?

      I am all for giving the benefit of the doubt and finding excuses for West Games but this is dishonest any way a look at it.

    28. Faldz on

      Now that i watch again on an HD computer, i see that it's unity. Why? Not only because this: http://i.imgur.com/FCIkm0e.jpg But because even the crosshair is standard in Unity. (See; The Dead Linger)

      They fucked us over again.

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      DraxQuin on

      Anyway if I'm wrong then I'm wrong and an apology is duly needed, but I like many have never doubted this products existence (some have, who I've fervently disagreed with) only it's teams manipulative/deceptive tactics.

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      DraxQuin on

      @Richard
      I have enough to do with my time thank you, it's very ad hominem to claim everyone who posts against you has no time, but you seem to have it in great abundance to post your one-sided nonsense isn't that remarkable? It takes about 2 minutes to post here and it's quite entertaining

      It is not our fault that West Games has been so deceptive and manipulative you only need read the recent AMA to realize this, few have doubted West Games legitimacy in terms of development (and those that have have been swiftly dissuaded) we doubt the extent of their projects progress, which they've done themselves by posting Unity Assets constantly (@Alex which they seem to have done yet again) and not revealing information, or diverting it. They've dug this grave for themselves we're just watching as they bury themselves deeper.

      Regarding the engine and production. It is West Game claiming they've had an engine built not us! I don't care too much that their budget is low, I've stated before that worst things have been budgeted at $50k, but things of this scale and ambition aren't budgeted at $50k, if they had a realistic £500k or $750k I would be satisfied. It wouldn't be hard to get pledges with the amount of pull STALKER has. I do however care about West Game flippant and rather antagonistic attitude to it's backers, when all has been asked is honesty and transparency since day 1. I do care that they've made the claims they have an engine that is pre-alpha when you have rightly stated yourself that they need funds for production so ironically you've reached the same conclusion we have. I'm fine with pre-production, what I'm not fine with is claiming you aren't in pre-production when you are, don't lie to people's faces, and be downright deceptive when caught. This is so unprofessional and downright unethical for a company to act this way that even if this product is released (which I doubt it atleast within the expected 1 year window) then I will definitely be sure to boycott it for the way this company has acted.

      Where there is smoke there is fire, there is negativity merely because West Games has created it, now they have the balls to make quotes like "more difficult to make a kickstarter" or playing a crying game, ask yourself this, had this Kickstarter did as all others have done, had it been transparent and honest would we be here?

    31. Philomelle on

      @ Starker
      Oh, I agree. I just thought that issue needed to be mentioned at some point.
      -
      As far as "this is not a real prototype" discussion goes, here is my addition to it:

      Prototype: an early sample or model built to test a concept or process.
      By that definition, this video is definitely a prototype because it is the earliest form of Areal as a video game, as opposed to a concept described on paper. That it works on a different engine than ultimately intended and so on doesn't matter, because showcasing footage of that would be showcasing a prototype of Areal's engine. This is a prototype of Areal the video game.
      However, let us consider what this prototype tells us about Areal.
      Does it tell us anything about how the game plays? Yes, some things. It tells us that the game is first-person and you will be able to shoot at things, there will be heat vision and sometimes you will faint for no reason. However, it doesn't showcase any elements of the HUD, open world or character interaction, essentially meaning that it only shows that Areal will have gameplay.
      Does it tell us anything about the art direction? Not really. All of the art assets in the prototype are placeholders bought for 40-50 dollars from the Unity asset store and do not resemble the concept art or descriptions of the game world in any way.
      Does it tell us anything about the story? Once again, no. There is no story in the footage.

      So what does this footage really tell us about Areal? It tells us...
      .......
      ............
      Here I go.
      It tells us that "Areal will exist".
      Whether that is good or bad, is up to everyone to decide for themselves.

    32. Starker on

      @Philomelle -- That's a separate issue, though. And a much more serious one than "this is not a real prototype".

    33. Alex on

      Ok I downloaded Autumnal Nature Pack (https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/3649). And here is results:
      http://i.imgur.com/FCIkm0e.jpg
      I can give you 100% that Areal used assets again! They added few trees here and there, tweaked color of the grass and added some 3D models (which probably was ready too) such as concrete and container.

    34. Philomelle on

      @ Starker
      I never doubted that they are serious about making this game. However, being serious about making a game and being trustworthy enough that I would give you money to make it are vastly different things.
      Look at Shadow of the Eternals for example. The game looked incredibly good, already was in actual alpha stage (there were an actual engine and art assets, voice actors already signed up and so on), and was an unofficial sequel to Eternal Darkness, which is a often considered to be the best horror game of all time.
      However, the project lead behind that game was already famous for being banned from multiple forums for the exact same behavior West Games demonstrate here, burning bridges with every investor he secured and outright theft. As a result, a project that was expected to pass Kickstarter with flying colors ended up dying with barely 10% of the money raised twice due to a complete lack of trust from backers.

    35. Avalanche on

      @ Hampe Faldarn

      That wasn't gameplay. That appears to be Unity and an assets pack or two.

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      Tomáš Dolejší on

      "What we've found out though, is that making and launching a Kickstarter is much harder than actually making the game!"

      Really? So you actually thought you mention STALKER and people would just throw their credit cards at you without asking anything. Well, good job you asked only for $50,000 because there just might be enough people like that. Too bad you need much, much more funds.

      But if you think the investors and publishers will not ask the very same questions you keep ignoring here, this failure of a campaign haven't taught you a thing.

    37. Faldz on

      Well i'm actually convinced Now when they have shown footage of their team, their Office & some gameplay. What more would you want?

    38. Avalanche on

      @ Starker

      Yes. Ironic since they insisted on *giving* us a definition.

    39. Didita Liviu Cristian on

      You people are D.I.C.K.S ! you are never satisfied with anything .... get a life

    40. Starker on

      @Avalanche -- I think their definition of pre-alpha includes any moment between "let's start a game company" and "next stage -- alpha". They've been enhancing the truth from the very beginning of this campaign.

    41. Avalanche on

      @ Starker

      Well, there I think we agree. The issue I guess I would have if that to me they've sidestepped the issue of their engine and substituted something else for it. So, I still think they are trying to make it *look* like they are in pre-alpha, but really they have just put something together in the last two weeks, to make it look like they are. They *said* they were in pre-alpha before they even started the Kickstarter. And on that, I don't count this video as pre-alpha.

    42. Starker on

      @Avalanche -- They are most likely trying to prove to KS backers that they are serious about making this game. It was probably produced because people were asking for gameplay and they didn't have anything to show.

    43. Avalanche on

      @ Starker

      I guess they can be, yes. Do you think it's appropriate here though? I mean, what do you think it's showing/demonstrating to us? What aspect is shown to be working? (These may not even be the words you'd use.)

    44. Avalanche on

      @ Richard Stuckey

      West Games are the ones who claim to have the engine. They're the ones that brought it up, but they wont show it to us. It's *the* thing that they claim will bring the game to all six platforms. Scalable and the like. Unity isn't going to do that.

      I'm not sure what you mean by "it's a KS for $50k to move on an early game project". They have to be able to fulfil all rewards on reaching the goal of $50,000.

    45. Starker on

      @Avalanche -- I'm not saying this video was made for artists. I'm saying that prototypes have other purposes than showcasing/testing technology.