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West GamesBy West Games
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    1. Roy Anderson on

      I LOVE TROLLS, BUT ONLY IN FAIRY TALES. HERE WE FACE ANOTHER KIND OF TROLLS – INTERNET INSURGENTS! YOU CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY OF GAME`S PLAYERS TO GET RID OF THESE UGLY TROLLS! JUST SHARE THIS POST AND EVERYONE WILL BE GRATEFUL TO YOU!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      d4v33edz
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/510503504
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Maurice Burgmans
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1377935168
      Judicator
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/545610824

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      DEAR GUYS, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT I`M POSTING ONLY HERE AND HAVEN`T PARTICIPATED AS WELL AS WON`T TAKE PART IN ANY OTHER CHATS OR COMMENT WALLS!!! SEE THIS LINK! http://imgur.com/AkoYBAS
      THAT`S NOT ME IN THIS STRANGE CHAT! THERE IS A VIRUS AND LOT`S OF PEOPLE SUFFER FROM BEING FAKED!!!

    2. Roy Anderson on

      I LOVE TROLLS, BUT ONLY IN FAIRY TALES. HERE WE FACE ANOTHER KIND OF TROLLS – INTERNET INSURGENTS! YOU CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY OF GAME`S PLAYERS TO GET RID OF THESE UGLY TROLLS! JUST SHARE THIS POST AND EVERYONE WILL BE GRATEFUL TO YOU!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
      http://i.imgur.com/pzhwubp.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
      http://i.imgur.com/29wVmwP.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
      http://i.imgur.com/epq0iK1.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
      http://i.imgur.com/Xdq53Ur.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      d4v33edz
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/510503504
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Maurice Burgmans
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1377935168
      Judicator
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/545610824

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      DEAR GUYS, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT I`M POSTING ONLY HERE AND HAVEN`T PARTICIPATED AS WELL AS WON`T TAKE PART IN ANY OTHER CHATS OR COMMENT WALLS!!! SEE THIS LINK! http://imgur.com/AkoYBAS
      THAT`S NOT ME IN THIS STRANGE CHAT! THERE IS A VIRUS AND LOT`S OF PEOPLE SUFFER FROM BEING FAKED!!!

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      Maurice Burgmans on

      They launched and closed the AMA hours earlier than they said in order to avoid difficult questions... And when they still got difficult questions anyway they dodged them all.

    4. Julia Kravec on

      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
      http://i.imgur.com/pzhwubp.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
      http://i.imgur.com/29wVmwP.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
      http://i.imgur.com/epq0iK1.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
      http://i.imgur.com/Xdq53Ur.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
      http://i.imgur.com/pzhwubp.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
      http://i.imgur.com/29wVmwP.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
      http://i.imgur.com/epq0iK1.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
      http://i.imgur.com/Xdq53Ur.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      !
      !
      !
      Alex
      http://i.imgur.com/pzhwubp.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
      http://i.imgur.com/29wVmwP.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
      http://i.imgur.com/epq0iK1.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
      http://i.imgur.com/Xdq53Ur.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
      http://take.ms/88ym6
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
      http://i.imgur.com/JrGPcUc.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/442661676
      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    5. Ronald Clark on

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal/posts/919071
      :
      "
      Thank you to all the news sites that have written about our new teaser, and a special thanks to (among many others) Polygon, Gamer's Hell, PC Games N, Load the Game and Geeky Gadgets for reporting objectively and without any personal bias. Even bigger thanks to the 1,000+ people who have backed us so far. We are so happy to see more than 780 results show up when we type in "Areal Kickstarter" on google's news section! We have raised roughly 76 percent of our base goal, so we really are in the home stretch now! We need you, our backers' help, to get us to at least a hundred percent -- all you need to do is talk about Areal with your friends and share us on social media sites. If everyone got just one friend to contribute, then we would go way beyond our base goal. We have made some mistakes over the course of this Kickstarter, but the fact is that we are trying our hardest, and we hope that you'll help us make Areal a reality.
      «

      http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/18/5915089/areal-stalker-prototype-trailer
      !
      http://www.gamershell.com/news_166627.html
      !
      http://www.pcgamesn.com/west-games-release-first-footage-controversial-stalker-successor-areal
      !
      http://www.loadthegame.com/2014/07/18/new-video-shows-early-footage-areal/
      !
      http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/areal-first-person-shooter-prototype-trailer-unveiled-by-west-games-18-07-2014/

    6. Ronald Clark on

      PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!.

      In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

      Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.

      As noted in an OS News article titled "Why People Troll and How to Stop Them" (January 25, 2012), "The traditional definition of trolling includes intent. That is, trolls purposely disrupt forums. This definition is too narrow. Whether someone intends to disrupt a thread or not, the results are the same if they do." Others have addressed the same issue, e.g., Claire Hardaker, in her Ph.D. thesis "Trolling in asynchronous computer-mediated communication: From user discussions to academic definitions", and Dr. Phil. Popular recognition of the existence (and prevalence) of non-deliberate, "accidental trolls", has been documented widely, in sources as diverse as the Urban Dictionary, Nicole Sullivan's keynote speech at the 2012 Fluent Conference, titled "Don't Feed the Trolls" Gizmodo, online opinions on the subject written by Silicon Valley executives and comics.

      Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts – hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".

      Early incidents of trolling were considered to be the same as flaming, but this has changed with modern usage by the news media to refer to the creation of any content that targets another person. The Internet dictionary NetLingo suggests there are four grades of trolling: playtime trolling, tactical trolling, strategic trolling, and domination trolling. The relationship between trolling and flaming was observed in open-access forums in California, on a series of modem-linked computers. CommuniTree was begun in 1978 but was closed in 1982 when accessed by high school teenagers, becoming a ground for trashing and abuse. Some psychologists have suggested that flaming would be caused by deindividuation or decreased self-evaluation: the anonymity of online postings would lead to disinhibition amongst individuals Others have suggested that although flaming and trolling is often unpleasant, it may be a form of normative behavior that expresses the social identity of a certain user group According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter, England, and Groningen, The Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."

      In academic literature, the practice of trolling was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:

      In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.

      Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community:

      Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they – and the troll – understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.

      Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling – where the rate of deception is high – many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.

      Susan Herring and colleagues in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature". Free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open, yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, and sexuality.

    7. Stephen "Stoibs" D
      Superbacker
      on

      Damn, just woke up and must have missed it in my time zone here, I could have sworn it was calculated to be starting within the next hour or so.... Any reason for arbitrarily kicking this off early - there-by even more-so pissing off your potential backers? (This is rhetorical by the way, this Kickstarter is so poorly run and managed that I shouldn't be surprised at you dropping the ball at something so simple as adhering to deadlines.. -_-)

      Following the Link it looks like just as we predicted anyway - You purposely chose to ignore all the proper questions and concerns that need to be addressed, instead giving vague non-answers like "we have answered this already" (When you clearly haven't) and other BS. I like how you've yet to a go on record by admitting that this is just a start-up to show to further investors and are fully aware the $50,000 goal is a joke... and that you actually have developed nothing to date except for ideas and concept.... real transparency guys.. talk about dishonest and shady devs..

      Very glad to see the backer total less than it was yesterday, after seeing this train wreck of an "We won't answer anything" I'm surprised it actually isn't dropped lower.

    8. Matthew Farmery on

      this is just a major train wreck, what did you think you could accomplish by doing this and then doing it in such a way, you hit at backers who are potential clients, you give copy and ppaste answers to pretty much everything, you don't answer any real questions, apart from giving copy and paste and saying we have answered them.
      you do realise you have shown yourselves up? how can anyone trust your word if you don't answer questions.

      bt I thin it pretty mch proves,

      you don't have dev kits,
      you don't have an engine, as you need those dev kits to make this engine. or maybe you are using unity?

      everything about this leo char seems more and more dodgy,
      and you not got a game just concept and ideas.

      then why do a AMA when the world will be watching and seeing how you react? but the world has seen how you react, and more proof, you don't care about backers, your after the money nothing else, but don't think think by been utter fools in this AMA, you really makes you look good? as it doesn't, not by a long shot,

      well done WG, you really dug your own grave.

    9. d4v33edz on

      You are just avoiding any questions that are not to your liking, this isn't an AMA, it's a poor attempt at whitewashing.

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      William Aidan Heffernan on

      Why did you say your AMA would be 6pm US east time specifically and then actually have it over 6 hours before that time?
      Was this another attempt at avoiding answering any questions? Seems rather pathetic. But then again, pathetic seems to be what you do best.

    11. Alex on

      Here is main questions needs to be asked:
      1. When are you planning to launch Alpha and Beta?
      2. What vehicles in the game will do. You showed us helicopter, will we be able to fly?
      3. Why your game development time is only 1 year when development time of Stalker was over 7 years?
      4. Your Kickstarter money after all deductions will be at around $25,000-$30,000 is that really enough to develope this game on 6 platforms?
      5. How you plan to spend budget?
      6. Why are you banning people on Facebook and deleting their comments, when their comments don't have any inappropriate lexicon.
      7. Why did you blocked comments on your YouTube videos?
      8. Why you have more concept artists in the team and not more Developers?
      9. Are you aware of how much it will cost you to have your game on Physical CD for platforms such as Playstation 4 and Xbox One?
      10. Who is the guy that will get all the money. He is not listed on Kickstarter.
      11. Why are you not responding on your Kickstarter comments page or in updates comments.
      12. You're saying that some of your Backers was paid for negative comments, do you have any proof of that, or you just simply calling your potential clients liers?
      13. Why you think you project surrounded with negative press, you think it's not your fault and why?