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From the developers of the cult hit S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, comes a new post apocalyptic video game called Areal. Read more

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From the developers of the cult hit S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, comes a new post apocalyptic video game called Areal.

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Update 16 -- a video message from the lead game designer and screenwriter of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

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Alexey Sytyanov is now a full member of our team, and will go forward as Areal's producer. If you'd like to find out more about Alexey, check out the interview that he did when he still worked for Vostok Games (he does not work at Vostok anymore): http://vostokgames.com/en/news/meet-team-alexey-sytyanov

We're also including an excerpt from an interview that he did with GSC-fan a while back.Thanks for reading! 

Alexey Sytyanov:

Unfortunately, mass culture right now is such that it's easier to put down everyone who wants to make something instead of supporting or making something themselves. Back when we were developing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. originally, we had the same exact situation as right now. People said that we were doing everything wrong, that we weren't experienced and that we could never make a good video game -- even respected video game developers told us these types of things. What happened was that we pushed through that and made an awesome cult hit video game series with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. 

Question:

Can you predict how the gaming industry will evolve over the next few years?

No, I cannot. In the past, I had my own fantasies of how the gaming industry would evolve in the future. Right now, technological progress is moving at such a rapid pace, that devices are appearing that we could have never predicted would exist. For example, the mass adoption of tablets and the appearance of technology like Kinect and Oculus Rift. So it's hard for me to predict what we'll have in the near future. Instead, I choose to openly welcome everything new, be happy when unexpected things happen, and embrace the mayhem of video game development. 


Feel free to send us an email: info@west-games.com

To everyone who's been awesome enough to follow and support our Kickstarter, we are extremely grateful to you! We need your help to make our Kickstarter a success, so please tell your friends about Areal, tweet about us and share us on Facebook.


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    1. Creator Roy Anderson on July 20, 2014

      I LOVE TROLLS, BUT ONLY IN FAIRY TALES. HERE WE FACE ANOTHER KIND OF TROLLS – INTERNET INSURGENTS! YOU CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY OF GAME`S PLAYERS TO GET RID OF THESE UGLY TROLLS! JUST SHARE THIS POST AND EVERYONE WILL BE GRATEFUL TO YOU!
      TROLL`S INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://i.imgur.com/PXXwdt8.jpg

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Alex
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1471462809
      Ahmad Khan:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/118853235
      Matthew Farmery:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1048485536
      Nick Evans:
      http://i.imgur.com/PkuL7xz.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1154449346
      Philomelle
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2118415740
      TimoH
      http://i.imgur.com/l2mslJt.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1503167304
      Sander Goetzee Serrano:
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      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/undeadguru
      Martin Raun Dragsbæk
      http://i.imgur.com/8kGBkIA.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/364031039
      Microsoft Sam
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      Artyom Andreev
      http://i.imgur.com/X6kydpo.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/992653368
      d4v33edz
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/510503504
      Eugene Kim (not from WG)
      http://i.imgur.com/y0UFgmX.jpg
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/681414583!
      Maurice Burgmans
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1377935168
      Judicator
      https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/545610824

      Beware these trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      DEAR GUYS, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT I`M POSTING ONLY HERE AND HAVEN`T PARTICIPATED AS WELL AS WON`T TAKE PART IN ANY OTHER CHATS OR COMMENT WALLS!!! SEE THIS LINK! http://imgur.com/AkoYBAS
      THAT`S NOT ME IN THIS STRANGE CHAT! THERE IS A VIRUS AND LOT`S OF PEOPLE SUFFER FROM BEING FAKED!!!

    2. Creator Ronald Clark on July 19, 2014

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal/posts/919071
      :
      "
      Thank you to all the news sites that have written about our new teaser, and a special thanks to (among many others) Polygon, Gamer's Hell, PC Games N, Load the Game and Geeky Gadgets for reporting objectively and without any personal bias. Even bigger thanks to the 1,000+ people who have backed us so far. We are so happy to see more than 780 results show up when we type in "Areal Kickstarter" on google's news section! We have raised roughly 76 percent of our base goal, so we really are in the home stretch now! We need you, our backers' help, to get us to at least a hundred percent -- all you need to do is talk about Areal with your friends and share us on social media sites. If everyone got just one friend to contribute, then we would go way beyond our base goal. We have made some mistakes over the course of this Kickstarter, but the fact is that we are trying our hardest, and we hope that you'll help us make Areal a reality.
      «

      http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/18/5915089/areal-stalker-prototype-trailer
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      http://www.gamershell.com/news_166627.html
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      http://www.pcgamesn.com/west-games-release-first-footage-controversial-stalker-successor-areal
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      http://www.loadthegame.com/2014/07/18/new-video-shows-early-footage-areal/
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      http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/areal-first-person-shooter-prototype-trailer-unveiled-by-west-games-18-07-2014/

    3. Creator Ronald Clark on July 19, 2014

      PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!!.

      In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

      Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.

      As noted in an OS News article titled "Why People Troll and How to Stop Them" (January 25, 2012), "The traditional definition of trolling includes intent. That is, trolls purposely disrupt forums. This definition is too narrow. Whether someone intends to disrupt a thread or not, the results are the same if they do." Others have addressed the same issue, e.g., Claire Hardaker, in her Ph.D. thesis "Trolling in asynchronous computer-mediated communication: From user discussions to academic definitions", and Dr. Phil. Popular recognition of the existence (and prevalence) of non-deliberate, "accidental trolls", has been documented widely, in sources as diverse as the Urban Dictionary, Nicole Sullivan's keynote speech at the 2012 Fluent Conference, titled "Don't Feed the Trolls" Gizmodo, online opinions on the subject written by Silicon Valley executives and comics.

      Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts – hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".

      Early incidents of trolling were considered to be the same as flaming, but this has changed with modern usage by the news media to refer to the creation of any content that targets another person. The Internet dictionary NetLingo suggests there are four grades of trolling: playtime trolling, tactical trolling, strategic trolling, and domination trolling. The relationship between trolling and flaming was observed in open-access forums in California, on a series of modem-linked computers. CommuniTree was begun in 1978 but was closed in 1982 when accessed by high school teenagers, becoming a ground for trashing and abuse. Some psychologists have suggested that flaming would be caused by deindividuation or decreased self-evaluation: the anonymity of online postings would lead to disinhibition amongst individuals Others have suggested that although flaming and trolling is often unpleasant, it may be a form of normative behavior that expresses the social identity of a certain user group According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter, England, and Groningen, The Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."

      In academic literature, the practice of trolling was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:

      In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.

      Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community:

      Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they – and the troll – understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.

      Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling – where the rate of deception is high – many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.

      Susan Herring and colleagues in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature". Free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open, yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, and sexuality.

    4. Creator DraxQuin on July 8, 2014

      Yes PegasusOrgans is a confirmed troll just google the guys name, whether it's steam, another Kickstarter page the guy is getting called out for trolling left right and centre.

    5. Creator Jonny Hurtig on July 8, 2014

      Thanks Tomáš, missed that part :)
      I hope the next update got a picture of a mine cart, I do miss the vehicles.

    6. Creator Alex on July 8, 2014

      @Stephen

      he is know troll. Other Kickstarter campaign was reporting him for trolling, just ignore man.

    7. Creator Stephen "Stoibs" D on July 8, 2014

      Actually we *do* care about facts, which is the *very* reason for warning people away from this one built on lies and half-truths, Pegasus...
      Have... have you not read a single thing or any of the evidence thus far...? It's all right here around you... jeez.

    8. Creator Tomáš Dolejší on July 8, 2014

      @Jonny Hurtig

      AMA was promised in the very first update.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1577656602/areal/posts/889304

      And also in comment section by official account last week.

    9. Creator PegasusOrgans-Graywalkers VIP on July 8, 2014

      Thank you guys, Many of us believe in you. It is difficult when you have a small but extremely obsessed group of people that have nothing else to do with their lives than to spend it complaining about something that doesn't affect them at all.

      You guys were just unlucky enough to have some rivals that spread slander about you online, and, there happen to be people with too much free time that decided to go on a modern day "witch hunt". I wish you all the luck in the world, and to try to ignore these bored people as best you can.

      Heck, they even are slandering me. Supposedly I not only work at West Games but I also only pledge money to cancel it later in some diabolical plot to ruin ppls projects (even though anyone can see I backed 180 projects WITHOUT cancelling them, all it takes is clicking on my name, but these fools don't care about facts, facts are boring!).

    10. Creator Heinrich Bhaal on July 8, 2014

      Just before the end, I will remove my pledge.
      Or you'll excuse you, that you referred to people in eastern Ukraine as terrorists. Your National Guard are the true terrorists who want absolutely no peace!

    11. Creator Richard Field on July 8, 2014

      @Salman

      Nice to see you commenting again. I saw the way you were treated the other day, it was way out of line. I'm sorry that happened to you.

    12. Creator Alex on July 8, 2014

      They need to have strong leader. If you worked for Valve it doesn't make you Gabe Newel. If you worked for Apple it doesn't make you Steve Jobs and so on. Creative Sphere all about leaders. There are a lot of people working on projects, they are not more than average Joes with out right leaders. And to say hey I worked on "X" project not make you main person who created plot and gave mood to that project. It's like being construction worker which building highway and at the end of the year you will say that you build entire city. Creative Directors, Art Directors, Game Designers, Projects Leads, people like these making those awesome games not programmers. Programmers make awesome code that bugles or other way around. If not word STALKER you guys are nothing. You keep using this Title shameless. Ok if you was part of the team but that was not your project you worked for the company your vision might be completely different than their vision. If you want deserve trust and respect show us what you can vs talking about terrorist and looking like terrorist (See Update 4 Video). Stop blaming people, you're not doing what you should do. You HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. Your ball less leaders cant come here and clarify situation, so this campaign should die already jeez!

    13. Creator Jonny Hurtig on July 8, 2014

      @Tomas, I missed the promise of an ama session, when was that ?

    14. Creator Don Reba on July 8, 2014

      If this campaign succeeds, it will mean that people can break Kickstarter rules, blatantly lie, and ignore their backers. If this campaign succeeds, people will think you can really develop a large game on $50K and refuse to support real legitimate campaigns in the future.

      Eugene Kim had a year's experience of working on a Stalker-themed browser game that got canned before even being announced. He then tried to make a project in Stalker's spirit, and his team imploded. There are no miracles — he will manage his project as well as he has managed this Kickstarter campaign.

    15. Creator Jonny Hurtig on July 8, 2014

      "In the end there is not one other team out there trying or claiming to resurrect STALKER, so I see no choice than to take the risk, and depending on how much you pledge ... it's not much of a risk is it?"

      Didita Liviu Cristian, are you saying that you willingly would give away all your stuff to total strangers for free when they claim they will give you a dragon in return, if so I'm in, give me all your money and I will personally deliver you a unicorn and a copy of Stalker 3... I promise, as a total stranger that lies to you; I would never lie to you, scouts honor :)

      About the no choice part, yes I choose not to give dishonest people money, ever.

    16. Creator Alex on July 8, 2014

      @EVERYONE,

      Development time of original Stalker was from 2001 to 2009. Developers first showed footage in 2001. So development of stalker was over 10 years. And this blatant campaign promising you bigger world with drivable vehicles. and Development time is 1 year. OH and + 6 platforms including Wii U which cant handle AAA graphics and modern technologies on max.

      http://prntscr.com/40j5nq

    17. Creator Tomáš Dolejší on July 8, 2014

      What about the Ask-Me-Anything session which you promised? Stop hiding, guys, man up! :)

    18. Creator Dr. Snuggles on July 8, 2014

      I still hope they will reach their funding goal, so they have the chance to prove us wrong. They are serious about making this game.

    19. Creator Don Reba on July 8, 2014

      Stalker was anything but "the same story", because its developers never lied to the fans or ignored them or asked them for money with nothing to show. On the contrary, it had a strong fan following since 2002, developers happily answered questions and shared information. For instance, I recall the Dmitry Yasenev, the AI programmer, answering AI questions on the official forums back in the day.

    20. Creator Salman Nabi on July 8, 2014

      As far as I remember with Stalker it was the same story but when it came out it was a success proving all the critics and bad media wrong.
      I hope Areal follow the Stalker way. I still play stalker to this day and was really looking forward to Stalker 2, I blame the people who work now at vostok games for shattering my dream to play stalker 2.

    21. Creator Verrenus on July 8, 2014

      @Liviu Cristian

      Putting the conflict with Philomelle aside, pledging to Areal isn't going to help our chances of getting a spiritual successor to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. at all. West Games have no idea how to run a Kickstarter campaign and how to communicate openly with their potential backers, so giving such people any amount of your money is ultimately going to be a total waste. There can't be any talk of "risk" anymore - people can kiss their money goodbye if they give them to West Games, GUARANTEED!

      So I would strongly recommend saving that cash for projects much better and much more deserving than this one! ;)

    22. Creator Didita Liviu Cristian on July 8, 2014

      @Philomelle - at this point i think your mind is making up things or you have issues reading/understanding, I haven't done any of what you accuse me of...... I am LOLing as I read your comments , just LOL, I realised i wasted by breath talking with you.

    23. Creator Philomelle on July 8, 2014

      I do not assume anything. I'm simply telling you that your manners are crap. You demand that people should respect your opinions then dismiss everything they say without giving it a proper read. That is poor manners and complete disrespect toward other people, plain and simple.

      This discussion does need to end, but more because you've so far been dismissive and unpleasant to everyone who disagreed with you while still demanding respect. What a double standard.

    24. Creator Tugodoomer on July 8, 2014

      very smart to add few word about "russian terrorists"... good step, nice.

    25. Creator Didita Liviu Cristian on July 8, 2014

      "your response is exceptionally ill-mannered. I struggle to believe that you can respect people, let alone opinions" --- wooa......... again you asume things about a person you know nothing about.

      This discussion needs to end here.

    26. Creator Philomelle on July 8, 2014

      Not to be harsh, but the tone of your response is exceptionally ill-mannered. I struggle to believe that you can respect people, let alone opinions.
      And my statement does have everything with what you said, as you supporting a fraudulent project now means that a spiritual successor to STALKER won't ever be done in the future due to this project's long-term impact on how public perceives such projects.

    27. Creator Nick Evans on July 8, 2014

      another pointless update. Great, show us a video interview a guy did years ago that has nothing to do with the current project you guys are trying to get funded.

      And of course, no proof that this game exists.

      I am not funding your pitch to a publisher. You aren't even allowed to do that according to Kickstarter rules. You guys are treading a fine line here, and if you aren't careful, Kickstarter will come in and shut down your campaign.

      You should have been honest with all of us from the start.

    28. Creator Didita Liviu Cristian on July 8, 2014

      @Verrenus - Noroc si numai bine ! :)

      @Philomelle - NEVER asume things about me again, what you are saying there has nothing to do with me or what I said, I made no comparisson or comment regarding the potatoe salad.

      All i did previously is to express my opinion(not taking in consideration the potatoe salad thing which is out of the subject), and you should respect my opinion and treat it as such as I would do yours.

      In the end, we cannot know what is going on for real, we may be right or wrong, all this is just speculation, and the conclusion will be taken at the end of all this.

      I am not blind to all of this, I do agree with many, all I am doing now is holding on to a thread of hope, you or anyone else has no right to tell me otherwise.

    29. Creator Richard Field on July 8, 2014

      Sytayanov*

    30. Creator Richard Field on July 8, 2014

      I wish someone like Philomelle was able to talk directly to team members, as there seems to be a massive disconnect between what Alexey thinks is the scandal and what ACTUALLY is the scandal.

      The whole "are the developers really from Stalker," question is ancient news. Nobody cares about that anymore, as it's been debunked already. How much information has Alexey actually been given, as to the reasons why backers are so disbelieving?

      @Alexey Sityanov

      In case you're able to read this and get it translated, the real issues are all the fake screenshots, as well as constant lies and dishonesty from West Games, a lot of people seem to think that is coming from Eugene Kim.

      If I were you, I would distance myself from West Games and this Kickstarter, go away for a few months, put together a proper conceptual plan for a successor to Stalker and come back to Kickstarter with your own team. If you did this, my advice would be to be consistently honest and transparent about what you have or don't have, as the internet hive mind will quickly discover and expose any bullshit, as they have in this case!

      There is a massive demand for a new Stalker-like game...but not like this!

    31. Creator Verrenus on July 8, 2014

      @Liviu Cristian

      Noroc frate! :)

      We've been following this project from the beginning and while each and everyone of us here is a massive S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fan, West Games are truly up to no good, while being disrespectful to us and lacking any transparency whatsoever! They are totally not worth sponsoring, as doing so will only set a precedent for extremely bad and downright dishonest Kickstarter campaigns!

    32. Creator Philomelle on July 8, 2014

      @Didita
      First of all, the potato salad Kickstarter is intentionally a joke. Nobody is taking it seriously, be it the creator or backers themselves. Comparing it to this indicates that you're kinda clueless about what is going on.

      As for how big of a risk supporting this Kickstarter is? I will repeat the same thing I said earlier:

      "Making games is insanely difficult and expensive. Making games will crush your sleep schedule, bank account and your soul. Your friends and loved ones will give up on you because they won't understand why making a "toy" is so hard and assume you're wasting your life. Game development is a long and dark tunnel with only a tiny light in the distance to guide you.

      This is precisely why we cannot allow frauds like West Games have their way. By creating these fraudulent projects with ridiculously low funding goals, they skew public opinion concerning how much it would cost to develop a game, thus making backers unfamiliar with development question when someone with a larger and more realistic request comes around. More than that, by taking money and then wasting it, they destroy backers' trust and make it less likely for future projects to become funded.

      Their negative influence on video games and their place on Kickstarter can be very long-term and poisonous. That is precisely why they shouldn't easily succeed."

    33. Creator Didita Liviu Cristian on July 8, 2014

      @Sander Goetzee Serrano - please check the potatoe salad on kickstarter :)

    34. Creator Matthew Farmery on July 8, 2014

      isn't the fact they are answering made up questions bothering you? and not had a blue background post for a while now not bother you?

      everything about this KS is a lie, they refuse to answer stuff, what is it they are afraid of? and why so much secrecy? its not sure that there is a publisher, but there must be other reasons they are still hiding stuff from us,
      backers deserve the truth, and we are getting sick and tied of been lied at. this KS must be shut down, because if they had been truthful, we wouldn't have had this merry chase, and using fake accounts, (confirmed) so are WG acting like children and not adults?

    35. Creator Sander Goetzee Serrano on July 8, 2014

      "it's not much of a risk is it?"

      But it is a huge risk. How can you shut your eyes and just ignore the evidence? This project has been a big joke.

      Backers be warned this project is very shady and suspicious:
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/06/26/areal-kickstarter-raises-huge-red-flags-backers-beware/

    36. Creator Matthew Farmery on July 8, 2014

      damn mad too many mistaskes there

      ..........
      I say it is a big risk, even iif the money is small, but I think the way that they have handled the KS might be enough proof to say, how can they handle a game of this scale? and the other thing is, we don't know anything about the game,. not really, sure they offer console versions, but to me, they should never had promised that,
      every game that has console and pc ports, and PC suffer as a result, we have no assurances the PC version will be their main platform, (we heard this a few times times from ubi and turned out to be lies)
      even then, do we even know there is a publisher or an investor? or is that still on the drawing board? as the deal could have fallen through.

      but also it means that more and more companies will abuse KS, until no one trusts it anymore, that is the real issue, KS is based on trust, and until KS start to enforce its own rules, projects like these will keep going through
      then what? people will lose confidence in crowdfunding, then no games that gamers want to see will be made, as publishers will continue to cherry pick games that they think we want to play, and if its on the PC platform, we will get a raw deal everytime

      its the principle of the thing, and KS needs to act and start enforcing the rules, otherwise, they will suffer as a result, no profit, and for us gamers, no games that we want to see. we have a lot to lose if this turns out bad, a great deal to lose.

    37. Creator Matthew Farmery on July 8, 2014

      I say it is a big risk, even iif the money is small, but I think the way that they have handled the KS might be enough proof to say, how can they handle a game of this scale? and the other thing is, we don't know anything about the game,. not really, sure they offer console versions, but to me, they should never had promised that,
      every game that has that has console and pc ports, and PC suffer as a result, we have ano assurances the PC version will be their main platform, (we heard this a few times time ubi and turned out to be lies)
      even then, do we even know there is a publisher or an investor? or is that still on the drawing board? as the deal could have fallen through.

      but also it means that more and more companies will abuse KS, until know one trusts it anymore, that is the real issue, KS is based on trust, and until KS start to enforce its own rules, projects like these will keep going through
      then what? people will lose confidence in crowdfunding, then no games that gamers want to see will be made, as publisher will continue to cherry pick games that they think we want to play, and iif its on the PC platform, we will get a raw deal everytime

      its the principle of the thing, and KS needs to act and start enforcing the rules, otherwise, they will suffer as a result, no profit, and for us gamers, no games that we want to see. we have a lot to lose if this turns out bad, a great deal to lose.

    38. Creator Tomáš Dolejší on July 8, 2014

      No one asked you about your ability to predict how the gaming industry would evolve over the next few years! Stop answering made up questions and start answering OUR real questions.

    39. Creator Didita Liviu Cristian on July 8, 2014

      I just want S.T.A.L.K.E.R back, I enjoyed that game too much.

      A good part on the old team are now making Metro and dont care about STALKER (as far i can see they are doing a great job with Metro), Vostk Games are making Survarium which I dont like the path they are going on.... i dont see any resemblance to the old atmosferic stalker, Misery LTD did a amazing job with their mods, but they dont seem to have anything planed in the near future regarding a full game.

      In the end there is not one other team out there trying or claiming to resurrect STALKER, so I see no choice than to take the risk, and depending on how much you pledge ... it's not much of a risk is it?

    40. Creator Avalanche on July 8, 2014

      @ Didita Liviu Cristian

      I wouldn't have started if West Games had been honest from the start.

      "smallest chance" is not good enough for me. Not by a long way.

      "and should be for the majority of supporters too" That really isn't for you to say.

      I get that you support this project, which is fine, but I would like to know the truth. If enough people want to take the risk and the project funds, then I am fine with that. But just as you can say that you want the project to succeed, then I can keep asking questions about it.

      West Games could end the questions, by actually answering them. So far, they have chosen not to.

    41. Creator Andrey Vladykin on July 8, 2014

      Русские террористы... как-то обидно, я сижу тут в России, Украину вообще только на картинках видел, а тут меня в терроризме обвиняют. НО я верю в ваш проект, к тому же по сути это единственный преемник Того Сталкера, удачи вам...

    42. Creator Matthew Farmery on July 8, 2014

      but this KS is based on a lie, and breaks every rule, this KS can not be funded, must not be funded, they have refused to answer stuff, so how do we even know a game will be even made? as pulling a trick like this may very well reduce their chance of getting a publisher or an investor,

      this is another BS update, this KS needs to be taken down now

    43. Creator Didita Liviu Cristian on July 8, 2014

      You people need to stop this (the ones commenting), I have kept a close eye one everything since the kickstarter started, and I do understand your conserns but even if there is the smallest chance that this project can go ahead and these devs to actualy release a game is good enough for me and should be for the majority of supporters too, in the end we are talking about only $50k .....

      By now every backer or potential backer read all the updates and comments and DO know what is going on, and I believe people like @Avalanche should just stop! I think you just don't know when to stop....

      GUYS! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER STALKER LIKE GAME!
      JUST GIVE THEM A CHANCE! JUST THIS ONE! IF THEY FCK UP THEY WONT HAVE ANOTHER ONE ANYWAY!

    44. Creator Adam Duthie on July 8, 2014

      I think that we should draw a line under this now. It's obvious that they want to make this game but at the same time have been so manipulating about it it's pissed everyone off. I feel that the constant barage they get in every update is not helping. Maybe if the comments section was left to a more positive audiance the turtle might come out it's shell. Like hunting deer, you don't throw rocks at it but instead encourage it to come to you

    45. Creator Richard Field on July 8, 2014

      @West Games

      With guys like Alexey Sytyanov on your team, you could have funded this Kickstarter on concepts alone, if you'd been honest with us from the start. You could have made hundreds of thousands, if not over a million.

      All Kickstarter success is based on honesty and transparency with your potential backers, so whoever decided to approach this pitch with deceit and lies from the beginning, should be asked to leave your company, as it is now doomed to failure. If it was all Eugene Kim's doing, then you have no future as a company at all, as he is the boss and no-one in their right mind would trust him after this debacle.

    46. Creator Serdar Atayev on July 8, 2014

      Все норм, но зачемм в политику лезть! Теперь для фанов из России вы стали правосеками. На ровном месте уменьшил шансы на успехБлин! Ну кто просил! кого волнуют ваши политические взгляды тут! Да уж! пропаганда! везде гребанная пропаганда! Даже сюда влезли!

    47. Creator Raul Strugar on July 8, 2014

      yeah exactly... where are all the responses... nobody shared one here.
      It's funny they keep adding people to their team like their some major studio like Ubisoft or whatever. It's kinda obvious that those people won't work 1 year for a few bucks. They are preparing the land for further investment... the ones they are waiting for after they fool people around here to get the initial $50k.