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Video update of our team!

Posted by West Games (Creator)


    People in the Kickstarter comments section have been saying that our team is fake, and that our Kickstarter is a scam. Hopefully the video shows that we're real... We fully understand that Misery LTD and people associated with them are flaming a witch hunt against us, and trying to discredit us at every chance that they get, whilst promoting their own post apocalyptic video game.

      They say that they are not doing this, but multiple accounts have repeatedly posted misleading information about us, and then directed commentators to Misery's site, which features a project that's exceedingly similar to S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. They are spreading lies and misinformation to various news outlets, who are unknowingly posting said lies and misinformation.

      Right now, we are writing a message response to various news outlets to clarify the situation to them. We want to ask you for help, if some of you guys are "legal wise", then please help us handle this -- we will be very grateful to you for it. It's really disheartening to see people spreading misinformation and negativity about our project. We don't want to keep battling against people who just want attract people to their own projects. 

     From now on, we'll be updating you daily about or creative plans and about progress in general. Also, please read the previous updates (especially if you're press) as they contain lots of useful info: 

Massive First Update

Addressing Vostok Games -- really important

New Mini Update

Chissà Perchè, USM-Valor, and 11 more people like this update.


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    1. Raul Strugar on

      1. Go on main page:
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      3. Tell Kickstarter that developers drops their own money, that they raised more than $12,000 with in 5 minutes!! Tell them that Developers spam in comments on purpose to hide important messages for new backers!
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      ######################################################### (to be updated with info about the $12k fake pledges) (difference between Unity and Teaser Video)
      The more reports the better. REMEMBER! the pledges cannot be removed once there are less than 24 hours left!

    2. Ronald Clark on
      Thank you to all the news sites that have written about our new teaser, and a special thanks to (among many others) Polygon, Gamer's Hell, PC Games N, Load the Game and Geeky Gadgets for reporting objectively and without any personal bias. Even bigger thanks to the 1,000+ people who have backed us so far. We are so happy to see more than 780 results show up when we type in "Areal Kickstarter" on google's news section! We have raised roughly 76 percent of our base goal, so we really are in the home stretch now! We need you, our backers' help, to get us to at least a hundred percent -- all you need to do is talk about Areal with your friends and share us on social media sites. If everyone got just one friend to contribute, then we would go way beyond our base goal. We have made some mistakes over the course of this Kickstarter, but the fact is that we are trying our hardest, and we hope that you'll help us make Areal a reality.

    3. Ronald Clark on


      In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

      Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.

      As noted in an OS News article titled "Why People Troll and How to Stop Them" (January 25, 2012), "The traditional definition of trolling includes intent. That is, trolls purposely disrupt forums. This definition is too narrow. Whether someone intends to disrupt a thread or not, the results are the same if they do." Others have addressed the same issue, e.g., Claire Hardaker, in her Ph.D. thesis "Trolling in asynchronous computer-mediated communication: From user discussions to academic definitions", and Dr. Phil. Popular recognition of the existence (and prevalence) of non-deliberate, "accidental trolls", has been documented widely, in sources as diverse as the Urban Dictionary, Nicole Sullivan's keynote speech at the 2012 Fluent Conference, titled "Don't Feed the Trolls" Gizmodo, online opinions on the subject written by Silicon Valley executives and comics.

      Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities. Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to discourage a troll is usually to ignore it, because responding tends to encourage trolls to continue disruptive posts – hence the often-seen warning: "Please do not feed the trolls".

      Early incidents of trolling were considered to be the same as flaming, but this has changed with modern usage by the news media to refer to the creation of any content that targets another person. The Internet dictionary NetLingo suggests there are four grades of trolling: playtime trolling, tactical trolling, strategic trolling, and domination trolling. The relationship between trolling and flaming was observed in open-access forums in California, on a series of modem-linked computers. CommuniTree was begun in 1978 but was closed in 1982 when accessed by high school teenagers, becoming a ground for trashing and abuse. Some psychologists have suggested that flaming would be caused by deindividuation or decreased self-evaluation: the anonymity of online postings would lead to disinhibition amongst individuals Others have suggested that although flaming and trolling is often unpleasant, it may be a form of normative behavior that expresses the social identity of a certain user group According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter, England, and Groningen, The Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."

      In academic literature, the practice of trolling was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:

      In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.

      Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community:

      Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they – and the troll – understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.

      Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling – where the rate of deception is high – many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.

      Susan Herring and colleagues in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature". Free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open, yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, and sexuality.

    4. Jenia Ivanov on

      Good to see the team , waiting for new updates about the progress of the project.

      Thank you.

    5. Aljaž Božičko on

      Nice to see them tired. To me it states "We care, it is depressing that some dont believe it is so." It could be still be like "We are sorry to go into this", but then it would be way more simple to keep happy face. To simplify ... looks sincere.

    6. Remote Viewer on

      I´m still not sure if it´s a scam. But if it is, I have to say I never have been ripped of by more sympathic guys than these. I like the guy second from left. Thumbs up! I still hope it´s not a scam though 8(

    7. Rito Hendrix on

      Making all these small posts isn't helping you guys out. Forget about Misery LTD. As long as you fail to provide what would actually help the reputation of this Kickstarter--ACTUAL GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE, some kind of PROOF of concept--it doesn't really matter what you say about them, even if it's true.

      And, as others have said, the 50k goal just seems very unrealistic. Unless you're getting some outside funding, I doubt that will be enough to make a game of this level of ambition.

    8. nashathedog on

      A quick point about where you said the MDT's game is exceedingly like Stalker. Your kidding right! It's nothing like Stalker and it's nothing like what your claiming Areal will be. From what I can see it's a totally different type of game so implying there targeting you because your some sort of competition is ludicrous. You've been targeted because of what your claiming and what your providing to back it up.

    9. Merrick Simms on

      JD Worth think a little please. The projet they talking about is already found since April. It's took me one minute to know that with Google.

      The guy has juste asking somes questions that EVERY Kickstarters's project are suppose to anwser at the begining (except this one), and how they react? Lying, discredits, multiple accounts... just for legitimate questions.

      And I don't even speak or they Update where they said :

      "We have contacted Vostok Games about their supposed claim that we are fraudulent. They say that they have no relation to that claim"

      The problem is we have an official reaction of Vostok and a reaction of Oleg Yavorsky (PR Manager of STALKER). So who is lying?

      At last in this video we still don't have anything about the game, They just spend all their time denouncing a "conspiration" where it's just natural reactions of fans with no concrets informations about a project.

      So excuse me but for the moment all shows that project, is a scam.

    10. JD Worth on

      Frustrating and shortsighted - a flame war from a project tells me that the project/people making the 'flames' has very little skill in PR. I mean - this is KICKSTARTER! We have funded (games) projects to the tune of MILLIONS. MORE than enough to go around... why fight/flame at all?

      BOTH games could have gotten my funding - but the offensive actions of a project team will get more scrutiny for their negative actions from the public, I believe, than a team that has to 'justify themselves.'

      West Games - you have my $50 pledge. Go to it! I look forward to your product!

    11. Merrick Simms on

      Kyle looks the comments. Apparently the girl is an actess.

    12. Stephen "Stoibs" D

      Still no gameplay.

      Still no explanation as to how you intend to make a game of his magnitude with a mere 50k plus some other unspecified amount that you have not disclosed (honesly the biggest issue with me... It's common knowledge that game development is Quite expensive, this here is just not going to cut it - you can say that you are far along in the development all you like but until you ACTUALLY SHOW US what you have instead of Footage from some other game, people are actually smart to remain sceptical of this..)

      Still *hypocritically* calling out specific individuals for starting a 'witch hunt' (Do you not see the Irony here of what you yourselves are doing by constantly mentioning him and 'discrediting' him too... It's actually almost comical)

      ...Still on a dollar pledge.

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      Kyle Jovanis on

      Seeing some actual people makes me feel better for sure. A little gameplay and you'll have pretty much sold me on the project...

      Though your budget is still odd.

    14. Андрей Хлыбов on

      People want to see early gameplay footage

    15. Merrick Simms on

      "Misery LTD and people associated with them are flaming a witch hunt against us, and trying to discredit us at every chance that they get, whilst promoting their own post apocalyptic video game."

      A projet ? Already funded....

      That's it ! I don't trust you anymore !

    16. Tom Lockett on

      I'm still not convinced, it just doesn't seem professional enough, my main concern still is the intial goal of $50,000. It seems too low for how many platforms its gonna be on.

    17. Rodrigo Sampaio Carneiro on

      My support for the project remains, is needed more than rumors to condemn a project that at least the theory looks spectacular. Of course there are still things to explain and be released, including new images (or even conceptual art) a new video and other media employees know more about the project, but we must also take into account that the campaign still lasts over 27 days and the studio have much time for more news.

    18. Pavel Stangel on

      Nice to know that some real people are actually behind this project, now if only you guys showed some pre-alpha footage, explain the horribleness of your initial kickstarter video, and stopped blaming other people for your horrible pitch, and get some actual professionalism along the way, well that would be swell.

    19. Mitchel Pederson on

      My biggest concern right now has to do with budget, time and workforce. Harmonix needed $775,000 to greenlight a downloadable rhythm game for PS3 and PS4, and that's after putting over a million of their own savings towards it. The creators of Skullgirls needed $150,000 just to add a single DLC character to their fighting game. You guys are asking for only $50,000 to apparently make an open world, AAA level shooter releasing on six different platforms. I cannot see how that will be possible without outside help from a larger company. If this $50k is to just build a prototype to get further funding, I could get behind that. Right now, though, the goals seem completely unreasonable.

    20. Johan Ollars on

      might wanna make it not private?

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      Mike on

      Thanks for letting us know you all are real. Anyway we can see some rough gameplay footage? Pretty please :)

    22. Daniel Beaulieu on

      Ok, so we've seen you're the people you claim you are and for that alone I'm likely to keep backing, but I, and I am sure many others, would like to hear your explanation for why your main kickstarter video is only a collection of STALKER footage, Unity 3D demo footage, and concept art, at least one image of which just comes from the novel cover. I'm not trying to be hostile. I want to believe that this will be as amazing as it seems it can be, but I think at this point if you want to continue to give us more faith in the project you need to be more transparent and put together some things related to your current status of the game, maybe show us some of your tools or the game in action. I think people seeing the game, even an unfinished handful of models and your tools would go a long way to getting people to calm down and have more faith in you guys.

    23. USM-Valor on

      They're all robots! ROBOTS I tell you!!

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      Pimpollo on

      You realize this "witch hunt"wouldn't have even started had you guys done this on day 1. This should have been included in the pitch. Regardless, good luck cleaning up your mess.