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When can I expect my money back?
BTW, I'm just scrolling through past comments. The frustration of backers about the project being two years late with no communication from Tom in 5 months in those comments is almost sort of quaint at this point. :)
Out of curiosity, has anyone (a) attempted to contact Tom via email, twitter, etc and if so (b) did he respond in any substantive manner?
He's got plenty of time to post on twitter.
It would be nice to see backers start to get refunds, even slowly over time. $28K worth of trust from all of us and no updates in a long while....
SEVEN YEARS. ???????
At first I empathised with Tom. Now I don't, I feel cheated, insulted and disrespected.
This was one of the first Kickstarter projects I ever backed. I remember how excited I was for this project when watching and re-watching Tom's original pitch video, even keeping up my hopes through the sporadic updates promising us something, something, something.
While on one hand I see how personal challenges can interfere with bringing this book to life, I cannot help but be disappointed by a project I had such high hopes for, and a man who has seemingly left us in the dark.
Tom is the kind of scummy person that takes people's money, does nothing, and ignored everyones requests for accountability. I would encourage American backers to start a class action suit based purely on his dishonesty. He managed to fund a wedding and a divorce with our money which shows the great passage of time. Other con artists have been successfully sued by Kickstarter backers. There should be some accountability for his theft and the way he treats the backers of this project.
Sooooooo, any chance of me 30 quid back Tom? taking the p!$$ now FFS
Not that he cares to even log in in over a year now.
Just a reminder Tom, you suck and I hope you fail in any future endeavors.
Mike Rosencrantz: You made me spit beer through my nose. lol
Lemmy was alive when I back this project. This project killed Lemmy.
any updates ?
I was single when I backed this project. I've now travled to Disney World, got married, had a kid, beat cancer, sold a business, bought 2 houses, watched a beloved pet pass. I wonder if I can still be Punk enough for Punk Mathmatics.
Since I backed this project I've moved twice and had two kids. If we're lucky one of those kids may receive this book as they go off to college...
My son was seven months old when this funded, he's halfway through 1st grade right now...
I just checked my backed projects and realised I never received this book. Of the 63 projects I backed since 2010 this is actually the only one I never received anything from. Anyways I caught up on the current status and what do you know, there was a beta version a year ago. In the time since I backed this project I got married and now have a four year old son. If the book could go from beta to shipped within the next 5 years or so that'd be great!
Fun fact: When I decided to support this campaign, I was 33.
I turned 40 this past Monday.
Backed this to help my son with his MYP coursework. He passed that, his A Levels and is now off to university. Time goes by very quickly.
My youngest is 12, so I am still hopeful to use this book to help him in his secondary studies.
Is it really over six years? I wonder how many backers have died in that time? What's the odds Tom that I die before I get the book?
This is idiotic.
Based on updates alone, I'm pretty sure Tom and I are best friends that never met. I know more intimate details of his life than I know about 80% of my friends. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that Tom is still working on this book after 5 years (which is incidentally how long Northeastern University lasts...).
Sooooo, any update on this? I fear all hope is lost on this project.
Interestingly, the co-worker I had planned on giving the book to as a gift has now moved on to another school across the country. lol
Meh. If it's published or not isn't really a concern of mine any more. Not worth the time being worked up about it. :)
David S, I gave up about 30 months ago. I never would have guessed back then that it was more likely for Donald Trump to become president of the USA than for Tom to deliver on his promise.
Anyone still think this book is ever happening?
Pledges are always pledges, especially as far back as this kickstarter goes. Hope you finish, Tom — and if you ever want a pint, I'm in Portland, too!
I hope Tom finishes the book and I really look forward to seeing it if/when it's done. I pledged a pretty small amount of money - basically an expendable amount. When I pledged, it was clear to me that this was an ambitious undertaking for someone who hadn't done this kind of thing before.
I have no interest in trying to reclaim the small amount of money I pledged and will not be participating in any lawsuits. I hope Tom eventually finishes this thing more for his own sake than for mine. If not, I'd like Tom to consider my pledge a gift and to buy himself dinner (but he'll have to go somewhere cheap).
TEDx Mt.Hood on May 2, 2015:
An update from Tom on Twitter: https://twitter.com/neu242/status/576330288088948736
Dear Punk Mathematics Backers
Myself and Ira are two concerned backers, unhappy with the way Tom Henderson has been handling the project he proposed almost 4 years ago. After failing to meet his self-imposed deadlines and with no updates for 7 months we feel again it is time to hold Tom accountable and ask him what he has been doing with the $28,701 we gave him as a collective to write his book.
The facts of the matter are that Tom has failed to deliver his rewards, failed to keep us informed and updated with regards to our investment, and continues to make excuses for why he is not updating backers or progressing with the book.
I believed Tom had good intentions, but I think he may have lost momentum with the book. Unfortunately because he does not update us (his last update was July 2014) we are left to assume or visit the only page he seems to update on a daily basis, his twitter account @mathpunk.
We started a Facebook group to get backers of this project connected so that we can decide as a collective the best course of action. https://www.facebook.com/groups/269504193195997/
If you are a backer please join our group and show your support. Share with every backer you know. We will likely start a petition if we make no progress with Tom.
We are not out to attack Tom and wish him no ill will. If you have anything positive to share or have received your rewards we would be pleased to hear from you. We are especially keen to hear from those of you who purchased the "Answer-To-Everything" reward pack and above, as Tom provided you with a 24 hour Math Hotline. Did he deliver on that reward? Has he been contactable by phone?
We understand writing a book takes time and deadlines change, but Tom has not offered any updated time scale. We don't want to wait another three years without good reason and unfortunately that it where Tom seems to be lacking. Ira and I have reached out very politely to Tom on several occasions to be met with vague excuses and no real answers. We are disappointed and feel that it shows a lack of respect for the people who backed his campaign.
After some discussion we feel these are the 3 options open to us presently, but we are a collective and all input is valuable. We want to hear people’s opinions and confirm the majority is happy with the course of action we choose to take. We hope to accomplish one of the following options:
1) See Tom continuing with the project but with a couple of elected backers as accountability managers. Tom must set a new realistic finish date and update weekly/fortnightly/whatever the group sees fit from now on with his schedule and give evidence of progress to the selected backers. This evidence could be updated drafts, scanned copies of notes, whatever, just something to prove he has actually sat his butt down at a desk and done something. If he can’t manage an online email update or whatever, he needs to IM and send files with the elected backers so they can update the backer run facebook page. If he fails to update regardless of his progress he will negate the agreement and we will be free to explore reclaiming the project for ourselves in lieu of legal action.
2) If Tom is incapable of continuing with the project we request he hand over any existing drafts to the backers under the creative commons attribution so that we can decide how to progress. If this course is taken we think it would be most sensible for the mathematicians backing the project to decide if they want to work on it as a collaborative endeavour. These details would be discussed in the backers group.
3) If Tom refuses to commit to updating and working on the book, setting a new realistic deadline, and refuses to release the drafts under the creative commons attribute we will be seeking recompense from him directly. Should he fail to comply we will seek legal advice as a group potentially hitting him with a class action suit for breach of contract.
He has let down the people who showed such faith in him, and now it is time to take some action to get this project back on course or get our money returned. None of us want to take legal action, but I can see from the comments many of us want our money back out of principle. We feel we have been scammed and we want to see some accountability.
We say this to you Mr Henderson: You cannot take people’s money and disappear. You will be held accountable. We do not own you, but you owe us regular updates. You may have been unprepared for this project, you may not know how to handle pressure and deadlines, but you are an adult. Take responsibility for your project and be fair to the people who paid you to live out your dream.
Punk Math Backers, unite and kickstart this project once again!
Writing a book is hard, which will anyone confirm who has tried to write a thesis - and a thesis has very small actual requirements on readability.
I still love the idea. The articles archived on the net still make me feel that I want this:
I can wait some additional months. I can also live with just getting a PDF for printing out myself. I can possible also live with my $29 spent being lost, but it would really be a shame, because after all I have been putting on my PunkMath t-shirt for years and my co-workers frequently ask me if I received my book yet, because they are curious enough to read it themselves.
What I want to say with this that I don't want to give up hope just yet. I certainly don't want to join in and abuse Tom for not having posted an update since July '14. It's just... you know... like TIME to tell us a bit more, please?
When I pledged to this project, my son was six months old. This fall, he shall be attending kindergarten. He has learned to walk, talk, and interact with others in the time we have been waiting for this book.
Please be honest; that's all I ask.
Tom Henderson, you are nice and funny and all that. We all backed that with 10 times the money you asked. Now you got it, you have no clue on how to deliver that at all.
So if you are expecting 1022 people to forget about you, it won't happen, so tell us if this is going to happen or if you had an happy life since 2010 and Punk Mathematics elements are in a box in somewhere in your place.
If I receive the book by post tomorrow I am not even sure I will be happy anymore.
The suspense is killing me!
There was an improvement on updates. What appeared to be excerpts from the book were posted. It looked like progress was being made.
Now it has been almost 5 months since the last update and nothing since.
I had been willing to give Mr. Henderson the benefit of the doubt. Now all I want is a bit of honesty. If the project turned out to me more than he anticipated and he was unable to complete it, I think he owes it to his backers to say as such.
i've spent the last few years thinking that Tom would surprise us one day and reveal the end product ..... I now fear that this will never come to pass. Please just tell us that it ain't gonna happen, so that there are no residual expectations !
All you Tom apologists are looking progressively worse for your baseless defense of this scam artist. Tom, will you please just make a post stating that you failed so we can get closure and move on?
More than four years on, out of interest...is there enough money left to print the book? Is there a new expected completion date? I'm happy to just let it go but I'm curious about where the project is at. :)
yay for progress!
There's always another way to look at a problem.Maybe this:
You seem to be doing a 1.618... Turn
I backed this project because I wanted to brush up and improve my math skills. I had little luck with math books on new material because I didn't have a complete mastery of the fundamentals. Fast-forward three years. The Math Punk project is going no where, but that's ok by me. Based on the 'updates', the book would have been a rambling mess anyway. What has changed is that there is a little site called http://www.khanacademy.com that is unbelievable in providing the tools to master the fundamentals of math. Depending on your level, you likely will be able to learn some new material too.
I just wanted to let you all know about Khan Academy so that you can give it a try. (If you haven't been on the site recently, they have completely modified the way math exercises are presented.)
Does anyone have any other site or book recommendations?
...and Math Punk, there is usually a connection between how you treat people and how you are treated.
You're doing great. We're sorry we welded you in your gym locker. We hope Mrs Mathpunk and your car get well soon.
TOM! Keep at it, buddy! Don't give up! I like watching this thing develop and I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.