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    1. Creator deusx_ophc about 13 hours ago

      @Theta Sigma
      i will never forget that day i played #doom for the first time on some old x86 in a dank flat in derby of all places. just moved to uk in jan 94 to work for gw in notts. doom & curry takeaway & beer weekends - nearly as good as the original summer of elite ^^

    2. Creator Theta Sigma about 16 hours ago

      @deusx_ophc

      There's a new doom-prophecy doing the rounds and - for once, on here - this one is almost certain %^]

      May 13, 2016

      doom.com

    3. Creator deusx_ophc about 21 hours ago

      #correction the world isn't actually going to end tomorrow afternoon at 6.00 pm. i misunderstood something somewhere ^^

      @os for further reading about #doom (it is even space related) https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/nasa-says-the-world-is-not-going-to-end-in-september

    4. Creator Theta Sigma 1 day ago

      @oldschool Shadowrunner

      "Correction" - required due to your misunderstanding of the DLC pricing model?

      Correction indicative of another desperate move from someone who desperately wants Elite: Dangerous to be #DOOMED

    5. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 1 day ago

      Correction. ED dropped prices here: https://archive.is/6HtI5

    6. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 1 day ago

      Frontier drops price of Elite Dangerous to £10 and Horizons to £19.99.
      https://archive.is/0w7oF
      .
      Another desperate move from a desperate company.

    7. Creator Theta Sigma 2 days ago

      Elite Dangerous: Horizons

      ...is no longer on Steam as a standalone item.

      Tinfoil Hats: On
      Bacofoil shares: Purchased

      #DLC

    8. Creator Theta Sigma 2 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      OS: "That might have something to do with the fact that Frontier have decided not to post an update here."
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…

      Hey man, don't be too surprised:

      It seems to be standard practice (for space games involving epic space adventure, trading and dogfighting) to cease Kickstarter updates - whether a game is released or not - once they have received all their Backers' monies, that is %^]

      Jeremy on January 10
      "It's obvious that SC does not see crowdfunding as anything like achieving something through a community. If they actually did, they would not refuse to update KS for 2 years."
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/comments…

      Arrakisdef January 29
      "Two years and ten months, still no update. Still no communication over Kickstarter in any way at all. Pathetic."
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/comments…

      OS: "Which is probably a good idea, since the more backers who hear the games is release, the more might start complaining that it is not the game for which they paid $$$ two years ago."

      I wonder... how does ED compare with its 'peers' in terms of being the game Backers "paid $$$ two years ago" for?

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/description

      "Real quick, Star Citizen is:

      [snip]

      • No Pay to Win"

      'The Completionist' $18,000 USD
      https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Combos/The-Completionist-Digital

      Ouch... Well, I suppose Kickstarter "aims" are not guarantees after all.

      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."

      No problem. I guess those that are unsatisfied can still get a refund.

      ...oh, except they've stopped giving refunds too.

      Jeremy on December 24
      "I have contacted CIG and they have rejected my request for a refund, so it looks like they have changed their policy."
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/comments…

      Dawn_ on January 2
      "@Jeremy, i asked the exact same thing the 7/12/15.
      I got an answer the 23/12/15."
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/comments…

    9. Creator Michael Taylor 2 days ago

      @Avalanche - ahoy there once more!

      After having a flurry of activity over the recent Beta period to the eventual Release into Early Access (figure that one out!) I've again lapsed into wait-and-see mode. With a few hours in Horizons I feel I've seen pretty much all it had to offer. It's very good for taking pretty screenshots and looking cool in trailers (as long as you have some friends playing with you) but gameplay wise, like the main game, still very lacklustre (or placeholder or barebones, it's a full season of stuff to come, 10 year plan etc etc blah blah blah)

      One of the good things about the Beta I found was that I got a lot of "80 Days" and the "Sorcery!" games played on my iThing during SuperCruise transits and awaiting mission timers.

      (Someone at FDev should be hiring writers of that calibre to sort out their Missions.)

      The problem for me is that the procedurally generated nature of the game is just too transparent - it's like having a diaphanous curtain in front of the Wizard of Oz working the smoke and levers - other games are good at disguising their systems and repetitive nature, but with Elite, well, stuff is just too obviously plopped out of the procgen colon. Say you get a (procgen template) mission to go and find something in space or on a planet - choose a direction, any direction, head off and wait for the RNG to spit out the Point Of Interest or Signal Source that you're after. What you do or where you go doesn't matter, you're just waiting for the game to decide that you've waited long enough. It's a bit difficult to give one's disbelief a bit of suspension when every (landable) planet in galaxy is covered in crash sites and mining outposts and small bases etc etc every few kilometers*.

      I soon gave up on the multi-stage missions as they were obviously just the normal missions strung together with the added benefit of not knowing what you were going to be required to do later on (and the ability to not get paid for any completed stages should you wish to quit part way through). Reading the forums, they still seem to be suffering bugs.

      There's no skill involved. That, for me, is not involving gameplay. It all looks and sounds fantastic, but most of the gameplay outside of combat is simplistic, repetitive and, after quite a short time for me, boring. The perturbing thing for me is that all the solutions to the "mile wide inch deep" complaints are in the DDF archive, but FDev seem to be more concerned with getting the shiny shinies out (though I think that's linked to their funding model, so...ah well).

      I saw Offline mentioned a few times recently during the Frontier/Amazon server crash when the game was unplayable for eight hours or so. Methinks some players might now be seeing the benefits offline could've brought...still, it's given them a nice preview of the eventual fate of game, I suppose :D

      As for VR, well, the pricing level has desensitised me quite effectively! It's the newest addition to my wait-and-see list :)

      They are all sterling suggestions for the Unmutual collective noun you've put forward (and that RPS link is always worth a read for the comments - Don Reba's interpretation of the interview is comedy gold!) - the only thing I could now suggest is to move into the young 'uns emote territory:

      An :/ of Unmutuals

      *Someone on the forums did a rough calculation on how many crashed starships there are in the game and figured out that more than the future entirety of the human race must have crashed starships on remote planets. There's still the mystery of where the trillions of tons of tea come from...

    10. Creator Avalanche 2 days ago

      @ Michael Taylor [ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments… ]

      Sooooo... I went back to your Comment to reply, only to have to go further back to *my* Comment to see what I'd said in the first place :o)

      Yes to the 'most helpful review'... I seem to recall (the last time I looked anyway) it had something like 1,4xx out of 1,5xx finding it helpful. Way ahead. I have found the reviews very interesting*, along with which ones get the most helpful tags. I've also found the 'mile wide inch deep' comment common and it does seem apt, by what people have been saying. I've also noted a continuation in Horizons, in that people are *still* talking a lot about promise and things still to come and I've come to think that I'm glad I got out when I did, as I would not be at all happy with the way things are now (the full cost to existing users was a mess (now 25% off I think, but still not worth it) and Early Access?). But people do indeed talk about looks and sound and combat and yet... there doesn't seem to be a great deal to do and yet many still say there will be in the future. From what I've been able to make out though, there are still many things incomplete from Elite Dangerous, so it just seems to add more unfinished floors, on top of an unfinished foundation. And each floor costs more money**. Even a lot of the positive reviews, don't make me want to play the game.

      I've remembered a few things you've said about missions [also https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments… ] and subsequently noticed people's reviews on such matters and it all sounds really poor. Awful. A clichéd FedEx quest, *except* it's in three stages... ... which actually makes it even worse :o/ Who knew such things were possible.

      Sooooo... < casually > ... speaking of Horizons, how's that going for you? :o) From what I've been reading :oD it's still as I said above: even so far as people saying it's now a bit wider, but still only an inch deep. The landing on planets things seems to be very much a work in progress, with not much, if anything, to really *do*, like the whole game.

      "I can't recall anyone wanting to sue FDev for dropping Offline?" - yes, we're still on this ;oP I think I tend to see the need to sue to be linked to something tangible, rather than something abstract. And I base this on something I read somewhere once, so I think we can all agree that my views are well founded ;oP I do get what you meant though. I think I was being rather literal, in thinking that people were just trying to sue for the removal alone, rather than for recouping money or the like.

      Yeah... I'm sure VR will desensitize you... videos with people wearing VR gear are notorious for having a calming effect on them. Certainly no-one staggering forwards/backwards into things, falling off chairs, or generally freaking the **** out... I'm not helping am I? ;oP

      I've been realising more and more that the game really does seem to be a bubble around the player, with no persistence at all. I noticed that in Privateer, so long ago, and for all the advances in games, it still seems that things that go on around the player just vanish when the player moves away and has no effect on the galaxy, even if the player returns just moments later. I think that would have been a huge disappointment for me. I don't just want to be *in* the galaxy, I want to at least have *some* effect on it. At the moment even exploration seems to be just go to some system, scan, scan, scan and get one's name on it. Maybe years from now, all the 'seasons' will be compiled into an actual complete game, but I wonder if the servers will then be shut down. For now, I'm not sure what the point of 400 billion star systems actually is. People keep saying they are kinda all the same. Some visual variations, but the same. The space stations, as well.

      A 'Fury of Unmutuals'? A 'Convocation of Unmutuals' would seem apt based on numbers, unless ones believes there were so few people wanting an offline mode that it should be called just a 'Couple of Unmutuals' and Convocation's already taken by eagles, which is a shame. Based on the first RPS question from https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/03/12/david-braben-on-fan-anger-interview/ a 'Self-reproach of Unmutuals' would seem to fit, since it was apparently all our fault, but that's only if one goes by Braben's answer. A 'Remourse of Unmutuals', or maybe just a 'Refund of Unmutuals' :o)

      * it should be noted I've decided to take an amused, superior, above it all, sort of approach, which I find helps with the whole 'collapse in faith for humanity' thing :oD otherwise it's just depressing. I also find it helps that I did get my money back.
      ** I do like building metaphors :o)

    11. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 2 days ago

      " the games been out for over a year and you're the third (I think) person to turn up here over the last few months asking if the games been released yet! "
      .
      That might have something to do with the fact that Frontier have decided not to post an update here https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/updates announcing the release.
      .
      Which is probably a good idea, since the more backers who hear the games is release, the more might start complaining that it is not the game for which they paid $$$ two years ago.

    12. Creator Theta Sigma 3 days ago

      @Wyzak, Perhaps your (in)sight is impaired through the Steam?

      - it is noteworthy that following my steamdb posts, you now - having previously relied on Steamchart's low-res, smeared-out data to illustrate your beliefs, - now also use hi-res steamdb data. I suppose this is progress. Of sorts.

      - The first reports of a major Frontier 'Authentication Server Down' issue began at 12:16am on 30th January immediately following the 99% Steam outage at 12:00am
      - This is not a coincidence, and it is instead very likely that a large number of Steam ED players continually polling the Frontier Authentication Server(s) in a short time to attempt to log back in would have a similar effect to a DOS attack on the Frontier Authentication Server(s)

      - As I stated fully five days previous:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…

      "This outage was not caused by Frontier"
      Key-word: "caused"

      Additionally:
      "The knock-on effects of the outage took a few hours for Frontier to recover from"

      - You highlight 'dip1' which occurred almost 2 entire days prior to the worldwide Steam outage at 12:00am on 30th January
      - No reports were made of a major issue with the Authentication Server(s) coinciding with 'dip1'
      - 'dip1' is far from a complete outage, and shows a drop of only ~700 concurrent users over a brief time period
      - 'dip2' however, follows 11 (count them) consecutive, 99% outages affecting all of the Steam user-base over a two-day period.
      - I note with interest that your supplied steamdb screenshot does not display all 11 of these 99% outages since the scale chosen is insufficiently narrow (= smeared data)
      - Additionally, due to this smearing/averaging of the data at the scale you have chosen - what are in fact, 99% outages appear as vastly smaller decreases. I cannot know for definite whether you chose your scale deliberately. Can you clarify?
      Regardless, please see the following for a higher-resolution example showing all 99% outages correctly:

      http://i.imgur.com/S54ZKfs.png

      - 'dip2' as for 'dip1' is far from a complete outage, and shows a drop of only ~550 concurrent users over a brief time period
      - No significant reports were made of an issue with the Authentication Server(s) coinciding with 'dip2'
      - Indeed, the Authentication Server issues had been fixed by Frontier 2 days before 'dip2' occurred.
      - Note the following Frontier post from 30th January at 1:22pm (fully 13 hours _after_ the worldwide Steam outage at 12:00am on 30th January)
      "As many of you will know, last night we suffered unexpected server downtime which lasted for a considerable number of hours.
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php…

      TL;DR (as has been stated clearly from the outset)
      - This outage was not caused by Frontier
      - The knock-on effects of the outage took a few hours for Frontier to recover from

      Do you agree or disagree?

    13. Creator Wyzak 3 days ago

      Nobody is as blind as those who refuse to see the light.

      http://i.imgur.com/2fquREK.png

    14. Creator Theta Sigma 4 days ago

      @Wyzak, have you spotted any patterns/correlations in the higher-resolution dataset yet?
      Looking forward to your insight into this issue.

    15. Creator Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      ...thought not.

    16. Creator Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      @Wyzak

      Any update for us on your higher-resolution steamdb-pattern-finding odyssey?

    17. Creator Wyzak 5 days ago

      The continuously dropping review score tells a similar story. Down from 78% to 65%

    18. Creator Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      @Steven Lopez

      - You should register at:

      https://frontierstore.net

      - Using the email address that you registered on Kickstarter at the time the Elite: Dangerous campaign closed.

      - Elite Dangerous should then appear automatically in "My Downloadable Products"

      - You can link your account to Steam and generate a Steam key from the "Partner Keys" link if you'd prefer to add it to your Steam Library.

      - Bear in mind that Steam take a 30% cut of subsequent purchases on Frontier/ED/EDH purchases through Steam for arguably no real benefit

      - If for some Registering at frontierstore doesn't work or you no longer have access to your email address from the time of the closure of the campaign you should open a ticket at:

      https://support.frontier.co.uk

      ...and they should be able to sort it for you within a short time.

      Finally, there's an extremely supportive community over on the Frontier Forums at:

      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/usercp.php

      And especially:

      'Dangerous Discussion'
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php…

      Fly Safe CMDR!

    19. Creator Michael Taylor 5 days ago

      @Steven Lopez - the games been out for over a year and you're the third (I think) person to turn up here over the last few months asking if the games been released yet! If you've not seen any news about the game over the past year, well, don't be expecting to play an offline DRM free version :)

      What you need to do is go to https://www.frontierstore.net and register there using your KS email - the game will then be available in the downloadable products section.

    20. Creator Steven Lopez 5 days ago

      So this game is released now? I didn't get a survey for it. How do i go about getting the game?

    21. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 5 days ago

      Theta Sigma a.k.a. Frontier PR man wrote "8,835 Reviews "
      .
      Only in your imagination. You're been repeatedly asked to show these Xbox reviews and have so far failed to show even one.

    22. Creator Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      Let's dip-in to ED in XBoxOne-land, shall we?

      XBoxOne Reviews 02-02-16
      8,835 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Games/Elite-Dangerous/5d1a6afe-0a59-4121-b23d-aefa0915c90c

      So:
      - a further 127 +ve ratings in 4 days
      - a further 961 +ve ratings since 23-12-15

      - Just where _are_ all these +ve ratings coming from?
      - How many XBoxOne owners do they represent in total?
      - Only about 2% of Steam owners actually bother to review a game. Hmmm...
      - Could be looking at 200,000 to 500,000 XBoxOne ED Owners there...
      - Nice. Roll on the PS4 release %^]

      - - - - - -
      XBoxOne Reviews 28-01-16
      8,708 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      XBoxOne Reviews 20-01-16
      8,633 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      XBoxOne Reviews 17-01-16
      8,556 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      XBoxOne Reviews 23-12-15
      7,874 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

    23. Creator Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Alternatively:

      "Steam represents less than half of the total ED+EDH player-base"

      ...and you (Oldschool Shadowrunner) can therefore say nothing with confidence about how the number of non-Steam players have changed over the same period.

      You might like to appreciate, however, that
      - non-Steam PC, Mac (and perhaps XBoxOne players) may be more loyal stalwarts than teeny-bopper Steam-gamers who bought ED in a sale and realised it wasn't for them
      - Many hardcore fans of ED and EDH are not interested at all in giving Valve 30% of their hard-earned for no actual benefit and would prefer that all their money goes to Old Father Braben.

      Any further thoughts on the previous:
      Theta Sigma: "This outage was not caused by Frontier"
      Do you agree or disagree?
      - - - - - - -
      Also, did you take a look at the steamdb info?
      i.e. the higher data-point resolution version of the low-res steamchart data that Wyzak posted?
      You know, showing that:
      Dota2
      Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
      DSII
      ED
      EDH
      ..._all_ suffered:
      - identically synchronised 99% drop-outs in players
      - on no less than 12 separate occasions
      - between 30th Jan 00:00 and 1st Feb 12:00 (?)

    24. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 5 days ago

      Theta Sigma a.k.a Frontier PR man wrote
      .
      "Steam represents less than half of the total ED+EDH player-base"
      .
      OK, so the drop in player numbers across the whole player base is likely to be about double those Steam figures.
      .
      Are yoo looking for Mr Braben to give you the sack or something?

    25. Creator Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Do remember:

      - Steam represents less than half of the total ED+EDH player-base
      - Average concurrent players online != total active players
      - Average concurrent players online << total active players

      Any further thoughts on the previous:

      Theta Sigma: "This outage was not caused by Frontier"

      Do you agree or disagree?

      - - - - - - -
      Also, did you take a look at the steamdb info?

      i.e. the higher data-point resolution version of the low-res steamchart data that Wyzak posted?

      You know, showing that:
      Dota2
      Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
      DSII
      ED
      EDH

      ..._all_ suffered:
      - identically synchronised 99% drop-outs in players
      - on no less than 12 separate occasions
      - between 30th Jan 00:00 and 1st Feb 12:00 (?)

    26. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 5 days ago

      Last month's Steam Charts are in. ED average players figure down nearly 40% on the previous month. The second lowest number since records began https://archive.is/VmVFD .
      .
      And this is not because ED players are moving to Horizons. Horizons players are down too https://archive.is/HvBsg .
      .
      (Cue Frontier's PR man a.k.a. Theta Sigma, saying this is "Nothing to do with Frontier", but is all Steam's fault.)

    27. Creator Theta Sigma 6 days ago

      @Wyzak

      Concurrent Steam Users:
      30th Jan 00:00 until 1st Feb 12:00

      1. Count the 'dips'*
      2. Spot the pattern

      ED, EDH and DSII
      http://i.imgur.com/WGLpeJM.png

      https://steamdb.info/graph/…

      Dota2 and Counter-Strik: Global Offensive
      http://i.imgur.com/Ov5qTuV.png

      https://steamdb.info/graph/…

      source:
      https://steamdb.info

      *I've helped you out a bit with the counting part %^]

    28. Creator Wyzak 6 days ago

      http://steamcharts.com/app/359320#7d - 4 dips
      http://steamcharts.com/app/570 - 2 dips
      http://steamcharts.com/app/730 - 2 dips
      http://steamcharts.com/app/419270 - 4 dips

      Spot the pattern. Clearly there was a global Steam outage affecting all games AS WELL as a Frontier outage affecting only Frontier games.

    29. Creator Theta Sigma 7 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Theta Sigma: "This outage was not caused by Frontier"

      Do you agree or disagree?

    30. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 30

      Theta Sigma, a.k.a. Frontier PR man.
      .
      What I am saying is your "Not Frontier's servers" is bullsh*t.

    31. Creator Theta Sigma on January 30

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      So, let's get this straight:

      You are saying that a worldwide outage across Steam affecting 8million+ players, which began at 12:00am on 30th January...

      ...is entirely unrelated to knock-on problems experienced by Frontier reported at 12:16am on 30th January?

      Is that really what you are saying?

    32. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 30

      Theta Sigma a.k.a. Frontier PR man
      .
      You really ought to check with your colleagues at the Frontier office before putting out ridiculous claims that the Frontier server outage reported by Frontier staff in their own forum and on the Frontier server status display was "Not Frontier's servers."
      .
      Those are from Frontier staff that have more sense than you to try and blame the outages on Steam servers, especially when a large number of ED players aren't even playing the game though Steam.
      .
      Frontier "As many of you will know, last night we suffered unexpected server downtime which lasted for a considerable number of hours. " No mention of Steam. https://archive.is/RSKMD#selection-719.1-714.5

    33. Creator Theta Sigma on January 30

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Seriously?

      The first 'Authentication Server Down' report was posted to Frontier Forums at GMT 12:16am on 30th January
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php…

      As shown in my previous post, there was an _enormous_ outage across Steam which began at 12:00am on 30th January
      That's just a coincidence, right?
      Right.

      This outage wiped out 99% of the entirety of Steam 'Concurrent Players Online' worldwide, from 8,473,424 down to 70,132

      http://i.imgur.com/2K4xUQJ.png
      https://steamdb.info/graph/

      This outage affected players in almost every single game on Steam, including GTAV, DSII, ED, and pretty much every other game.

      http://i.imgur.com/Hk4Saz1.png
      https://steamdb.info/graph/…

      - clearly there has been an external event that has affected millions of players and most games on Steam (and not only Frontier/ED)
      - this event occurred at 12:00am on 30th January as shown from third-party data: https://steamdb.info/graph/
      - this outage has caused knock-on issues for Frontier which they have worked hard to resolve
      - Frontier servers are now back up and running and by way of thanks for their patience, players can benefit from a Bonus Credit Weekend
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php…

      TL;DR
      - This outage was not caused by Frontier as can be seen from Steam worldwide outage
      - The knock-on effects of the outage took a few hours for Frontier to recover from
      - This outage affected the entirety of Steam 'Concurrent Players Online' worldwide

    34. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 29

      Theta Sigma a.k.a. Frontier PR man
      " it was entirely a Steam server issue affecting hundreds/thousands of games and millions of players last time, and it is, again, this time. Not Frontier's servers."
      .
      You'll have to come up with a better story than that, Frontier PR man. Because Frontier's own status page says that the FRONTIER SERVER IS OFFLINE. http://i63.tinypic.com/34rvhb8.jpg

    35. Creator Theta Sigma on January 29

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      If you'd bothered to check, as I suggested back on 22nd November, around the time you lost your mind the last time with your gleeful hand-rubbing about what you (erroneously) thought was a problem with Frontier's servers...

      Spoiler: it was entirely a Steam server issue affecting hundreds/thousands of games and millions of players last time, and it is, again, this time. Not Frontier's servers. Sorry, but that's the fact of the matter, no matter how much it fails to fit in with your warped narrative.

      Theta Sigma on November 22, 2015
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…

      "Polite request to those wishing to comment and/or draw conclusions in future upon the state of Frontier's servers and their ability, or otherwise, to maintain a reliable online service:
      1. Post the state of 'Concurrent Steam Users' using:
      e.g.
      https://steamdb.info/graph/

      'Concurrent Steam Users' 24th January 2016 to 30th January 2016:

      https://steamdb.info/graph/

      http://i.imgur.com/2K4xUQJ.png

      GTAV, DSII and ED _all_ massively affected by severe Steam outage (i.e. not Frontier's servers at fault)

      https://steamdb.info/graph/…

      http://i.imgur.com/Hk4Saz1.png

    36. Creator Theta Sigma on January 29

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      You've been grinding that axe so much it could probably benefit from a completely new head.

      How ironic.

    37. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 29

      Offline mode is here! Their online server is in offline mode again right now....

      "
      Today, 2:09 AM #1
      Zerakue
      Average
      Looks like the servers took the weekend off

      Been waiting all day to get on and boom, servers are also off for the weekend...
      "
      https://archive.is/fOnCK#selection-485.0-591.82

      " Today, 1:39 AM #1
      Blackcompany
      Competent

      So...How Bout that Offline Mode Now?

      Just a light background sim. Power Play doesn't need to be a part of it. Just enough so factions have some life to them. And no authentication server or forced multiplayer needed.

      I ask only because I paid full price for a game (twice, honestly) and now, when I have some free time after a rough week and want to relax, I cannot play it. At all. Even if I am WILLING to play it SOLO, I am not ALLOWED to do so.

      So yeah...how about we fix that?
      "

      https://archive.is/tYqUt

    38. Creator Theta Sigma on January 29

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      By now, after a year of your relentlessly-negative, reality-refuting-spin, there's a pretty convincing case to be made that yours is in-fact a parody KS account.
      If so, well done, it's may looked back upon in years to come as a long-running and consistently absurd great piece of performance-art.

      According to your earlier predictions, variously, Elite:Dangerous player numbers should now have dwindled to zero, Frontier should have folded, and Braben and the other Directors should have either been investigated by the serious fraud squad and/or been jailed.

      ...and all because: offline mode

    39. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 29

      Theta Sigma a.k.a. Frontier PR man.
      .
      "Had you considered the possibility that XBox 'Reviews' in this context might mean 'Ratings'"
      .
      For a moment, I forget you're Frontier's PR man, to whom anything and can mean anything else, so long as bigs up the spin for Elite Dangerous. What is actually true is of course immaterial.

    40. Creator Theta Sigma on January 29

      RNS Number : 4805N
      Frontier Developments PLC
      29 January 2016

      Frontier Developments plc ("Frontier" or the "Company"), a leading independent developer of video games with studios in Cambridge, UK will publish its results for the six months ended 30 November 2015 on Wednesday 10 February 2016.

      http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/FDEV/12679173.html

    41. Creator Theta Sigma on January 29

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Had you considered the possibility that XBox 'Reviews' in this context might mean 'Ratings' i.e. a score between 0 and 5 'stars' assigned by an XB1 ED owner? I suspect you had not

      The fact that you can't 'read' these 'Reviews/Ratings' doesn't mean they don't exist.

      It's a bit like those 1.4million unit sales that you deny.

      The fact that you personally haven't counted each and every copy of Elite:Dangerous that's been sold doesn't mean those sales haven't taken place.

    42. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 28

      deusx_ophc wrote "my biggest gaming community is Elite Dangerous with 62k online right now"
      .
      Well what on earth are they doing?? Not playing the game, for sure. SteamCharts http://steamcharts.com/app/359320#All indicates only 10% of that number, even accounting for the fact only half the owners are represented there.

    43. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 28

      Theta Sigma a.aka. Frontier PR man wrote "XBoxOne Reviews 28-01-16"
      .
      Again, can you post even one example of these ED Xbox reviews that you claim exist??
      .
      I think you can't. Because these reviews don't exist outside your imagination.

    44. Creator deusx_ophc on January 28

      too add...
      i am on steam since day one (before that even ^^) and currently my biggest gaming community is Elite Dangerous with 62k online right now. second are the lare TF2 communities with some 20 or 30k online atm

      yeah "dead game walking" for sure
      /boggle

    45. Creator Theta Sigma on January 28

      Yet more factual information along with some questions:

      https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Games/Elite-Dangerous/5d1a6afe-0a59-4121-b23d-aefa0915c90c

      XBoxOne Reviews 28-01-16
      8,708 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      XBoxOne Reviews 17-01-16
      8,556 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      XBoxOne Reviews 23-12-15
      7,874 Reviews
      4/5 stars (80%)

      Not doing too bad, eh?

      834 additional positive reviews over the course of a month which did not affect the overall rating of 80% ± 5%

      How many XBoxOne ED owners might there be out there?

      Only ~1% of ED/EDH Steam owners bother to review/rate the game.
      Is this percentage likely to be significantly different for XBoxOne owners?

      If so, why so?

      If ~1% of XBoxOne ED owners bother to review => ~870,080 XBoxOne ED owners total

    46. Creator deusx_ophc on January 28

      goood morning vieeeeeetnam ^^

      nice to see some reasoned debate around these shores.

      as always onwards & upwards

      ps: @os you keep talking about the dead. did i mention that you seem to have an attraction towards corpses ?

    47. Creator Wyzak on January 27

      And now for something factual.

      Month Avg. Players Gain % Gain Peak Players
      Last 30 Days 3,988.9 -2,032.7 -33.76% 8,704 (E:D)
      Last 30 Days 2,403.8 -93.4 -3.74% 4,088 (ED:H)

      65% of 12,061 reviews are positive (E:D)
      72% of 836 reviews are positive (ED:H)

    48. Creator Theta Sigma on January 27

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      It is widely known that you submit #excrementposts in place of reasoned discussion.

      Where are the respected, objective, games industry reports (even just one would do?) that support your claim that the ED and EDH launcher is the sole reason for the games' continuing and long-running high placing in the Playtime charts?

      (...or, are you unable to locate such industry reports due to the fact they're crammed so far up your colon you can no longer defecate without the use of Class A painkillers and laxatives?)

    49. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 27

      Theta Sigma a.k.a. Frontier.

      > #1 'Trending' game on Steam by Playtime (6 weeks after Steam release)
      > http://i.imgur.com/1elUx7a.png
      .
      It is widely know that Elite Dangerous and Horizons fakes the playtime to inflate the figures. At best that shows time in launcher, not game.
      .
      Despite which, steam charts shows Average Players DOWN https://archive.is/KwEVd
      .
      Elite Dangerous too. down >30% on last month. https://archive.is/7LWeP
      .
      Elite Dangerous is dead game walking.

      .

    50. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on January 27

      "This business practice is going to murder it and bury it in a shallow grave within the year."

      JustSomeGuy has Elite: Dangerous 24 Jan @ 3:16am
      How would you justify a purchase of Horizons?
      So as a veteran player, I'm being told that I have to effectively buy the game all over again, but with a small discount, and apparantly I get a new ship that's... mediocre from what I hear.
      This clearly isn't justifying anything because the rating on steam for E:D is plummeting.
      This business practice is going to murder it and bury it in a shallow grave within the year.
      The thing that created the problem in the first place is that new players can get access to all of the content veteran players already have without buying Dangerous and then Horizons, this is the thing that people are REALLY ♥♥♥♥♥♥ about.
      Some people hate it because of it's price point and some hate it because of the amount of content in it.
      But how do you fix it from here?
      Every solution I can think of pisses someone off.
      FD is probably going to nuke this thread, but hear me please: I WANT TO HELP YOU.
      I WANT TO SEE THIS GAME SUCCEED, THIS ISN'T GOING TO LEAD TO SUCCESS.

      http://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/451851477880059164/

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