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    1. Creator Theta Sigma about 3 hours ago

      @All 'Total audience' looking very healthy :)

      http://steamspy.com/app/359320#tab-audience-total

    2. Creator Theta Sigma about 3 hours ago

      @Jörn Huxhorn Patience, young Padawan :)

    3. Creator Jörn Huxhorn about 3 hours ago

      http://steamcharts.com/app/359320#All
      Last 30 days % Gain changed from -22,15% to only a mere -21,98%!

      \o/

      (Then again... it's weekend.)
      ((Even I would have expected a vastly bigger increase.))

    4. Creator Theta Sigma about 7 hours ago

      @Wyzak The main reason I object to your posts is that time and time again your predictions are shown, with the fullness of time, to be completely incorrect on pretty much every single occasion.

      Wyzak prediction: "thousands... won't be receiving Steam keys"

      "...the thousands of posters on the forums and the Steam community are still waiting for FDEV to tell them that they won't be receiving Steam keys."

      Fact:
      Steam keys released to *all* purchasers of Elite:Dangerous, whether Kickstarter backers or Frontier store purchases.

      9th April 2015
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…
      Wyzak: "It's too early to truly consider the steam ratings, and I don't think it's fair to exclude the 300k (your figure) who bought the game before the Steam release"

      I completely agree.
      It's unfair to exclude the non-Steam purchasers from reviewing this game.
      So, now that their reviews are being submitted, how about now?

      So, is it still "too early" (?)

      "User reviews: Very Positive (2,256 reviews)"
      "80% of the 2,256 user reviews for this game are positive."

      The score has increased from 79% in the few days since Steam release, and Steamspy shows that the number of positive reviews outweigh the negative reviews in the ratio of 3:1 :)
      You'll be sure to let us know when (*you* decide that) it's no longer too early to consider the Steam ratings?

      My prediction:
      You will only deem it no longer "too early" when the Steam results fit your world view that E:D is no good
      (i.e. 'never' ;-)

      8th April 2015
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…
      Wyzak: "The Steam gamers are still in the honeymoon phase. Let's wait and see if the 300k (your figures) pre-steam buyers will get Steam keys and how the Steam figures look in a few weeks."

      OK. The people have now got their keys (despite your prediction this would never happen)
      Is two months enough for the 'honeymoon' to be over?
      Let's look at the Steam figures...

      Pre-Steam Key release:
      Saturday 23rd May 3760

      Post-Steam Key release:
      Saturday 30th May 4151

      So, a 10% increase in Steam players after only two days of Steam Keys being available, and following a supposed continual decline according to you.
      Remember, from your own tedious observations regarding the E:D newsletter, very far from all E:D players are aware of the Steam Key release yet, and so this 10% is likely to rise further in the coming days and weeks as players learn about the Steam Key release.

      Furthermore, do bear in mind that these players have to be longer-term players (they have, of course, been playing since *before* the E:D Steam release on 3rd April - and are obviously *still* playing) - giving further evidence as to the longevity of the game.

      4th April 2015
      Wyzak: "Oh and Theta Sigma, I'm ecstatic about the steamcharts. Finally we now have independently verifiable information showing game time. So sure, the game has a massive surge just after it was released on Steam. But let's see how long they can keep up that momentum. That would be a far more accurate metric than anything else and would also give an indication of how the non-steam backers are sticking or dropping out of supercruise? Or will you find some excuse to deny that it is a representative sample of the whole community when the results end up not being in your favour?"

      Are you still ecstatic?
      Do you still assert that Steam is a "representative sample"
      The "far more accurate metric" (your words) is in actual fact showing that E:D players are subjectively (through increased positive review percentage) and demonstrably (through the increased player numbers since Steam Key release) enjoying the game.

      ...Or will you find some excuse to deny this? ;-)

    5. Creator Wyzak about 8 hours ago

      A New Hope - probably for the same reason that your quest timers still keep on running even after you quit the game, or that the value of your cargo appreciates or depreciates after you quit the game.

    6. Creator A New Hope 1 day ago

      Why would not playing the game affect reputation? This is going to become a huge issue for many players, that I can promise you.

    7. Creator Theta Sigma 1 day ago

      @Wyzak

      Yet another, typical knee-jerk jerk reaction:

      "If they have created a game that is so loved by it's customers, what are they afraid of?"

      Waaaaa! It's another conspiracy!

      [has facts pointed out to them by someone else who could actually be bothered to do their research before posting]

      [realises original statement was completely erroneous]

      [thinks for a bit...]

      Must complain about something else...!

      "It would have been nice if they could have somehow imported the actual hours already played."

      Textbook.

    8. Creator Wyzak 1 day ago

      Ah, thanks for clarifying Harbinger. My game is still downloading, so haven't been able to actually launch it. It would have been nice if they could have somehow imported the actual hours already played.

    9. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 1 day ago

      @Theta Sigma: Did you just try to insult me by calling me oldtool? HAHAHAHHAHA!
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      What happened to "Be respectful and Considered?"
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      Also where do you see "bullying"? I can see aggressive response but what do you expect when someone steals your money. Not sure how brits do it but here in N.A we get angry and pissed! Don't hate us for being different! :)
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      *******Also I think... you are VERY unique!********
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      This is me trying to be polite and not swear >>>> @tarasis - excuse my language but where the hell have you been living for last 2-3 months? You really like us to believe this is the first time you heard people are not happy with FD? 15,000 posts on FD board, google news paper articles, thousands of negative comments here and many other places, refund game code, etc, etc, etc. Yet you want us to swallow that you just randomly decide to check kickstarter comments section months after the game was released and then post how you are shocked about legal actions and how happy you are with what you got?!?! Smells Fishy...Is that you Braben? <<<< Yes this is a joke >>>>>
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    10. Creator Harbinger 1 day ago

      Just having a game in your Steam Library does not give you the ability to write a review, you need to actually install and run it to unlock the review option. This is true of every game.
      .
      I imported my Steam Key last night, installed it and ran it for a couple of hours and have the ability to write a review: http://imgur.com/DeZGAAO

    11. Creator Wyzak 2 days ago

      Thanks to Frank for bringing this to my attention:
      The steam keys that were issued to KS backers of the game don't allow you to write a review for the game on Steam.

      See my screenshot below: http://i.imgur.com/R3ZQRcb.png

      If they have created a game that is so loved by it's customers, what are they afraid of?

      @Theta Sigma - I don't care what you have to say, until you explain your conflict of interest.

      @Cs https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments… - you mean like this guy? https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/michael-gapper/63/b7/a5 One has to wonder what he does from 8-5 on a workday. Bets on whether Theta Sigma is Michael Gapper? Again, thank to Frank for bringing this to my attention.

    12. Creator Avalanche 2 days ago

      Wow, we really are starting again. Can I switch sides this time around? You know, just for my own amusement? It might be fun :o)

      @ Theta Sigma

      A fan? How?!

      @ Darious

      :oD

    13. Creator Jörn Huxhorn 2 days ago

      Could you elaborate?

    14. Creator Theta Sigma 2 days ago

      @cs The tone and approach I have adopted in these comments mirrors precisely the tone and approach employed by the majority of refunders who have been posting on here for many, many months before I posted my first comment.

      My first comment:

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…

      ...was in fact a polite response in reply to a particularly nasty piece of writing from Old School Shadowrunner who had utilised *both* 'personal attack' *and* 'belittlement' towards tarasis who had asked a simple, innocent question.

      From that point, on the refund-crew instigated many personal attacks towards me simply because I opposed their point of view. I remained polite for a while, but after weeks of attacks it's simply easier to respond in kind.

      As to Frontier's "problem" on this KS project?
      There is no problem - these comments are only read by circa. 10 people, or less, per day.
      Nobody outside this echo-chamber remembers, cares or even knows about offline-mode.

      Nevertheless, KS have seen fit to delete many offensive comments by Wyzak, Oldschool Shadowrunner, Darious, Random Element and others when each of them have overstepped the mark in terms of foul-language, personal insults and slander. KS are completely independent of Frontier so you can be sure these refunders have transgressed way beyond the bounds of acceptable communication - haven't seen you berating those guys, though.

    15. Creator Darious 2 days ago

      "* Fraudulent Developments < laugh >"

      SO f'ing stealing that! It's a simpler way to get the point across than calling them the "Electronic Arts of Europe"

    16. Creator cs 2 days ago

      @Theta Sigma I recall a particular professional lawyer who was also a long-time Elite fan arguing because he liked sparing (I forget the exact words he used) in the original offline thread on Frontier's forum. Your tone and approach reminded me of him. Perhaps you are a paid PR talking head paid by Frontier Developments to solve their "problem" here on their KS project.

      You have now resorted to personal attacks and belittlement; typical tactics for an internet hitman whose goal is to destroy actual debate/discussion by cheapening the exchange.

    17. Creator Theta Sigma 2 days ago

      @Wyzak

      Perhaps you should turn a mirror on yourself :)
      Your conflict has arisen *entirely* from your profound misunderstanding of Kickstarter, and crowdfunding in general

      ...aims and plans are *not* promises, they are *not* guarantees
      A Kickstarter project is *not* a finished product: it's not *even* a product.

      Along with the vast majority of satisfied backers, I backed Elite:Dangerous as I'd been looking forward to a sequel/update for years, and I wanted this game to exist *regardless* of which of the initial aims might be dropped. Did I *really* think that a DRM-free disc would ever ship thus jeopardising the huge intellectual property of Frontier's StellarForge algorithms? No. Not even for a second. But I still backed anyway.

      I've done exactly the same with Formula Fusion - for exactly the same amount of backing as I put up for Elite:Dangerous : £150

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/formulafusion/formula-fusion-next-gen-anti-gravity-racing-game

      If R8 Games deem it necessary to completely remove some of their Kickstarter aims, that's fine by me.
      They could produce an offline-only game, an online-only game. Whatever.
      What if The Designers Republic pull-out? I'd deal with it.
      What if CoLDSToRAGE decided he no longer wants to be involved? Fine.
      I trust the passion of the guys at R8 enough to produce the sonic-goods via another artist.

      And no, I hold zero shares, futures or stock in R8 Games Ltd.
      I am not an R8 Games employee, and neither are any of my family, my acquaintances, nor their pets.

      In the words of RPS - RE: Formula Fusion

      "As ever with crowdfunding, be fully aware that you’re putting up money to fund someone’s plans, not paying for a finished product."

      http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/04/27/formula-fusion-new-wipeout-kickstarter/

      You hear that, Wyzak?
      "Be fully aware."
      What a shame for everyone, not to mention yourself, that you were/are not even remotely aware.

      So, you were 'successful' in your Elite:Dangerous chargeback? *slow-clap*
      A 'successful' chargeback says nothing of whether Frontier acted dishonestly, as you continually assert:

      Case in point:
      I could order an item online right now, wait to receive the goods and immediately instantiate a chargeback for the goods.
      The odds are hugely stacked in my favour that I'd be successful in receiving 100% of the money on chargeback.
      It is very well known, after years of *all* the power being in the hands of the seller, that the climate has shifted arguably way to far back into the hands of the consumer and chargebacks are currently a major source of loss of revenue for sellers who are hit by unscrupulous purchasers (like you)

      You seem to think 'successful' chargebacks somehow *proves* that Frontier acted dishonestly.

      In fact:
      * Kickstarter doesn't agree with you
      * PayPal doesn't agree with you
      * RPS doesn't agree with you
      * 'The Law' (of whichever country you care to cite) has not been shown to agree with you, despite your bitter protestations
      * Precisely zero court cases actually took place in order to test/prove your assertions
      * 99.7% of the Elite:Dangerous backers don't agree with you [based on your '88 refunds' figure]

      Objectively, the only people who do agree with you are the 0.3% of E:D KS backers who frequent the infinite echo-chambers of refund-conspiracy chat.

      You say Frontier 'caved' in and gave refunds because they feared they'd lose in court.

      Another equally valid view is that Frontier gave refunds as a goodwill gesture despite them having absolutely zero requirement to refund anyone given that the Kickstarter achieved the vast majority of its aims - this project was demonstrably successful and the creators did not disappear/run away with people's money after failing to deliver anything, unlike the oft-cited 'PID-Controlled Espresso Machine' - and only a tiny-minded minority of backers cared at all about the dropped offline mode - personally I wish Frontier had never even added an aim of offline-mode part way through what was already a very successful campaign - seriously, the refunder comments on this thread are the most tawdry and whining example of first-world-problems/entitlement-issues that it has ever been my misfortune to have seen.

      'Waaaazak and The Refunders' - You've got 88 refunds, but a clue: not one :)

    18. Creator Wyzak 2 days ago

      @Theta Sigma - I'm sorry I couldn't see anything past your conflict of interest

    19. Creator Theta Sigma 2 days ago

      @Jörn Huxhorn @Wyzak @Avalanche @Random Element @Oldschool Shadowrunner @Darious @Wolfgang Schmidt @Fabio Capela @Paul @Peter "Wizball" Wilson @Franz Luger @Philip Konczak + @may_have_missed_a_couple_of_others

      Since you're all such _huge_ fans of conspiracy theories, ill-informed guesswork and imagined-subterfuge I'm sure you'll all appreciate this :)

      https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/8b77b16c574e3d023419b49c2a0a662d6bcc7cea

      Galnet News :: The Truth is Out There :: 28 May 3301

      Despite claims that the disappearance of Starship One was due to a failure in the ship’s Frame Shift Drive, rumours abound about a more sinister, possibly extraterrestrial explanation.

      Alex Snoori, host of the popular interstellar talk show Beyond Top Secret, had this to say to his listeners.

      “It’s an outrage, that’s what it is. Do you think those Martian fat cats that rule over us want you to know the truth? I don’t think so.”

      “Learn your history, people. It wasn’t all that long ago that our ancestors were being plucked out of the black right into the belly of bugs. Wake up sheeple, you don’t want to be sitting around dressed up like mutton when they come for you. Do not let the government tell you lies. You’re smarter than that.”

      “There’s been a lot of hullabaloo about strange things being found out there recently. Weird, pulsing, alien things. I don’t know where they came from, but I do know that they’re creepy, and gross, and almost certainly dangerous. You think it’s a coincidence that the President went missing just weeks after those THINGS turn up? Don’t be so naive. WAKE UP sheeple, you’re being lied to.”

      @Jörn Huxhorn

      "And, beside other stuff, I asked how an Elite without Thargoids can be a 10/10 game.
      Ha! Those were the times. :)"

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…

      10/10 would recommend Thargoid invasions as part of an evolving story - one of the most crucial elements dramatic of narrative is to not reveal everything at the start of the story :)

    20. Creator Avalanche 2 days ago

      @ Wyzak

      That makes a lot more sense :o) I wondered after I'd posted about it, as I thought you'd been playing a fair bit after the launch. I have no idea who TPR75 is, but I'm glad (s)he got his/her money back. Frontier Developments* behaving... like Frontier Developments really.

      I wonder if now would be a good time to ask for an update on offline mode.. I mean, they did say it wasn't out of the question, so... any day now I reckon.

      * Fraudulent Developments < laugh >

    21. Creator Random Element 2 days ago

      So Fraudulent Developments were STILL holding onto TPR75s' cash, and now they've deleted the posts and locked down the thread, too!

      What a bunch of tight-fisted cowards.

    22. Creator Fabio Capela 2 days ago

      So, even after all this time there were people Frontier had still refused to refund for something that was Frontier's exclusive fault. Talk about unethical behavior.

      Plus, censoring in their forums that some people that demanded a refund only managed to get one through a chargeback.

    23. Creator Jörn Huxhorn 2 days ago

      @Wyzak
      Congrats! ^^

    24. Creator Wyzak 2 days ago

      Sorry Avalanche, the moment I pressed the button I realized it might be ambiquous. That quote was from the email I received from the forum. It was actually TPR75 who did a chargeback.

      Here's a screenshot before the nazi moderators pulled it down and shut it down - http://vader.joemonster.org/upload/rqa/oryginal_1388640c34be547Elite_Dangerous_refu.png

    25. Creator Avalanche 3 days ago

      @ Wyzak

      Oh wow. After everything, you ended up getting a refund. And that *did* take a long time.

      The Chargeback Scheme seems really strong. I say 'seems', in that I think it is, but there seems to be very little actual details about it. But it's very much worked for me.

      cs' mirror site isn't updating Frontier Developments website anymore :o(

    26. Creator Wyzak 3 days ago

      ---Quote (Originally by Wyzak)---
      87 confirmed refunds up to post 2194.
      ---End Quote---
      Make it 88. No thanks to FDEV - it was chargeback forced by credit card company and my Bank. It took few months - no thanks to PayPal. PP rejected all attempts of refund/chargeback. But MasterCard was stronger... :>

      And just like that they delete the post and close the thread - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php…

    27. Creator Theta Sigma 3 days ago

      @All CMDRs (current and ex-)

      What are your predictions for E:D Steam Key release tomorrow?

    28. Creator Dice Man 4 days ago

      I just stop from time to time for a laugh - and once again, I've been rewarded. No I don't work for Frontier, have shares, is David Braben, etc. Interestingly I have got a little bored with the game of late - been playing Witcher III.

    29. Creator Avalanche 5 days ago

      Ah, yes.

      ...

      I feel as though we may have missed some details? Meh, I think we covered the important bits :o)

    30. Creator Jörn Huxhorn 5 days ago

      And, beside other stuff, I asked how an Elite without Thargoids can be a 10/10 game.
      Ha! Those were the times. :)

    31. Creator Avalanche 5 days ago

      Oh, are we starting all over again? :o)

      Okay, so it was a while back now, but I think it began with the notion that Frontier Developments had pretty much no chance of winning any court case, so caved and gave people their money back :o)

    32. Creator Jörn Huxhorn 5 days ago

      Oh. We reached that part of the loop again.

    33. Creator Theta Sigma 6 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner @Wyzak

      You will both recall that my first post to this comments section was in reply to Oldtool's appalling, bullying and offensive response to an innocent question from @tarasis:

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…

      Oldtool's response included the suggestion (later asserted to be a 'joke') that tarasis might be Braben.

      "@tarasis - excuse my language but where the hell have you been living for last 2-3 months? You really like us to believe this is the first time you heard people are not happy with FD? 15,000 posts on FD board, google news paper articles, thousands of negative comments here and many other places, refund game code, etc, etc, etc. Yet you want us to swallow that you just randomly decide to check kickstarter comments section months after the game was released and then post how you are shocked about legal actions and how happy you are with what you got?!?! Smells Fishy...Is that you Braben?"

      Given that both Oldtool and Waaaazak have continually repeated to many backers including myself, over many months, the accusation that they are in fact Braben, in the employ of Frontier, or hold shares or futures in Frontier - simply because they hold an opposing point of view to these two Offliners, it is easy (for the more objective readers of these comments) to understand why I treat these continual demands with the contempt they deserve.

    34. Creator Wyzak 6 days ago

      Thanks Harbinger I appreciate it that you actually made the statement. And no I don't believe that everybody has an ulterior motive. Only one person...

      Unfortunately Theta Sigma's refusal to make the similar statement can only lead us to one conclusion that he has a conflict of interest in this matter and therefore his intentions aren't pure.

    35. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner 7 days ago

      How do you know, have you applied for it?

    36. Creator Theta Sigma on May 23

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      The National Enquirer is always on the look-out for low quality speculative journalism :)

    37. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on May 22

      @All: Part 2
      __________________
      How much did Frontier Developments pay to that business software company right before Braben and his wife became board members of the company?

      All I know is that no such payment appears in the publicly filed accounts of either of the two companies that I viewed.

      But regardless, whether it was before or after is hard to say. The Companies House record of Braben and wife joining the company two months before the Elite rights buy (copies linked below) appear to be false. The forms were actually filed just one day before, which (if the joining date were accurate) would be illegal. I've seen nothing to back the company's claim:

      "In early 2014 David Braben and Wendy Irvin joined the LLP bringing their expertise in computer gaming into the development of software to be used for businesses."

      Also odd is that the company's web site still carries the temporary notice that went up at the time of the Elite rights buy one year ago:

      "The business of the company has been subject to a take over bid by Frontier Development plc- announced to the market today . Therefore we have taken down the main site pending a refresh very shortly. The business continues to trade normally... "
      http://web.archive.org/web/20150408214059/http://ppautomation.com

      Why a business software company that is trading normally with all these staff https://web.archive.org/web/20140417222433/http://www.ppautomation.com/02_About_Us/OurPeople.html would leave its main web site down for a year is a mystery to me.

      Red

      http://s12.postimg.org/92brx8ojh/ppa_llap01_braben.jpg
      http://s12.postimg.org/5wr6715x9/ppa_llap01_irvin.jpg
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      Happy Reading!
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    38. Creator Oldschool Shadowrunner on May 22

      @All: I found this a very interesting reading:
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      From my perspective, they passed having the benefit of doubt allowing for "negligence" months ago. I am convinced that they were purposefully fraudulent about their product.
      .
      I am too am convinced.
      .
      But I personally think it UNlikely Frontier's addition of offline mode was purposefully fraudulent. I think it most likely Braben added the offline mode promise along with all the other feature promises necessary to get kickstarter completion, gambling on the funding overshooting by so far that it would be enough to let him deliver the overpromises.
      .
      Having taken that gamble, he could have pulled out when it was clear he was going to lose.
      .
      Unfortunately he didn't. He chose to take the backers money knowing that it was insufficient to deliver the promised game. That's when he found himself way out of his depth, and the frauds began.
      .
      Fraud #1 - Braben made up the game's massive development budget shortfall by selling £6m of shares in the company on to London Stock Exchange on the false claim to own the Elite rights.
      .
      Fraud #2 - When the real Elite rights owner came knocking, Braben falsely declared to shareholders that the claimant was his own company and owned merely some royalty rights, deceiving shareholders into approving the purchase of them for £5m. He partly corrected his story in a subsequent statement to shareholders -- when it was too late for them to do anything about it, except sell.
      .
      Fraud #3 - Needing now to pay the price of the previous two frauds, Braben had to inflate the game's income projections, which he did by moving the game towards and online service model, dropping offline mode. But he kept the news secret, and so over the next six months took millions of pounds from pre-ordering customers under false pretences.
      .
      Fraud #4 - When he did announce that he'd dropped offline mode, he falsely claimed to kickstarter backers that they were not entitled to refunds. Whereas in fact under the Kickstarter contract, Frontier owes the backers at least £1m.
      .
      Fraud #5 - In the latest results statement, Frontier falsely claims that the company has made good on its delivery obligation to backers, and falsely accounts their pledges as earned income.
      .
      This is not counting the other dubious practices that have come to light, such as putting crowdfunding pyaments through PayPal as donations, and explaining a mystery $4m sum in the last annual accounts as for overseas marketing.
      .
      I think all of this makes more sense of this recent decision to sell on Steam at a 30% loss of margin. Braben needs money desperately to pay running costs of around £1m a month, and having defrauded backers, customers and stockholders, web retailers are just about the only people left who will give him any money.
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      Red
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      Thoughts?

    39. Creator Harbinger on May 22

      Oh I forgot to ask my cat if he has some shares, hang on I'll ask.
      .
      .
      .
      .
      He said "meow". Not sure if that's a "yes" or a "no" to be honest. I'm going to assume "no" though.

    40. Creator Harbinger on May 22

      Wyzak,
      If it'll set your paranoid mind at ease:
      I don't (and have never) work(ed) for Frontier or any company connected with them. I don't own any shares or futures in Frontier or any company connected with them. The same is true for any of my family.
      You really need to seek psychological help if you believe anyone contradicting you has an ulterior motive.

    41. Creator Theta Sigma on May 22

      if (wyzak.equals(troll)) {
      return null;
      }

    42. Creator Wyzak on May 22

      @Harbinger, it's a good start but the list is a bit longer than that. Please see https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments… for the full list.

    43. Creator Harbinger on May 22

      @Wyzak
      I do not work for Frontier nor do I own any shares.
      Happy? (rhetorical, I really don't care one way or the other).

    44. Creator Wyzak on May 22

      At least Theta Sigma is a decent enough person not to lie to our faces, but unfortunately not decent enough to divulge in what way he financially benefits from the success of E:D.

      @Harbinger, will you be willing to make the statement that Theta Sigma refuses to make?

    45. Creator Harbinger on May 21

      @Theta Sigma
      Perhaps he needs to loosen that tinfoil hat. :D

    46. Creator Theta Sigma on May 21

      @Jörn Huxhorn

      That is an interesting prediction Jörn.

      You have talked quite a bit about exponential decays, evergreen titles and so on.
      With that in mind, please do check the following:

      http://j.mp/EverGreenVsBlockbuster

      Do note that E:D is *at least* a week further along from its Steam release than GTAV, and yet, as a percentage of initial peak GTAV has already fallen *much* lower than E:D...

      GTAV ~72% drop since initial peak (in five weeks)

      E:D ~58% drop since initial peak (in *six* weeks - and furthermore has bucked the downward trend to stabilise with weeks five and six being almost identical)

      As I said: Roll on 28th May :)

    47. Creator Jörn Huxhorn on May 21

      Well... I suspect there will be a rather big bump on May 28th and the following week after which the general downtrend of players will continue.
      http://steamcharts.com/app/359320#All

    48. Creator Theta Sigma on May 21

      @Harbinger

      Waaaazak will probably now (monotonously and repeatedly) *demand* that you answer a series of ill-conceived and ludicrous legalese-style "questions" in order to satisfy himself that you are in fact not a Frontier employee, and furthermore that neither are any of your immediate family, acquaintances (or their pets)

      If you do not answer these questions (and ask yourself, what kind of person would ask such questions, and even more absurdly *expect* anyone to answer such questions on a backers' comments section?) he will then "ignore" you (whilst continuing to refer to you directly or an affectionate nickname of his choosing)

      Waaaazak, are you now, or have you ever been, an under-bridge dweller? :)
      Please note, whether you answer the question, or not, we reserve the inalienable right to object to your baseless conjecturing and flat-out out untrue statements.

    49. Creator Harbinger on May 21

      @Wyzak:
      "I wonder if Harbinger is also a Frontier employee."
      Yes because everyone who criticizes you absolutely must be a Frontier employee. (In case you didn't catch it I'm being sarcastic.)
      I'm a regular backer just like everyone else still wasting their time on a long since dead kickstarter page. I very much doubt anyone from Frontier has even glanced at this comments section in months.

    50. Creator Theta Sigma on May 21

      Don't feel left out Waaaazak :)

      Harbinger, along with you, is one of the 537,963 owners of E:D (...which now includes an 100,000 additional Steam owners since 3rd of April)

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/comments…
      I wonder, are you still "ecstatic about the steamcharts."?

      "Or will you find some excuse to deny that it is a representative sample of the whole community when the results end up not being in your favour?"

      ^ above quoted comments by Waaaazak, on 3rd April, 2015

      Roll on 28th May :)

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