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Take a ship and 100 credits to make money legally or illegally - trade, bounty-hunt, pirate, assassinate your way across the galaxy.
Take a ship and 100 credits to make money legally or illegally - trade, bounty-hunt, pirate, assassinate your way across the galaxy.
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    1. Oldschool Shadowrunner about 12 hours ago

      "Making money isn't a problem that needs a new solution.

      Having fun while making money is the game's problem.

      I honestly dont understand how we're this far along and the management at Fdev doesn't understand that. All the effort seems to be to chase after symptoms of a problem and no real time and effort has been dedicated to any solutions to the cause.

      edit: in case it wasn't clear, the cause being all the unfinished/partially implemented aspects to all the core gameplay. The grind-wall seems to be the only barrier that anyone in Fdev is allowed to code and we're bored of it. It might work well for casual phone games but it wont last here. Skill, strategy, puzzles, skill. These are things you incorporate into the game to make task barriers to give a sense of scarcity and reward. That's why people want easier/faster ways to make credits. Because what they have now is sit and do nothing, watch loading screens, kill laughably easy NPC's and space truck items between an equally laughable excuse for an economy. And when some of those people are bored of that, they go hunt players who are too green to understand that they are sitting ducks in starter or CG systems or they troll multi-crew ships. But no, we'll continue to work on the symptoms and let the entire thing die of the cancer that is afflicting it."…

    2. Theta Sigma 1 day ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Buddy, it's time for you to find a new hobby.

    3. Theta Sigma 2 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Well over 2 years ago you predicted that Elite: Dangerous would fail and Frontier Developments would be bankrupt and fold within a few months.

      Do you have an update on the timescale on your previous predictions?

    4. Oldschool Shadowrunner 2 days ago

      "Releaseing such a pile of broken mess just becore a major gaming holiday is moronic no matter how you look at it.

      Nobody in beta considered this ready for release, not even close.
      Im seeing small bugs and les that was in beta 1 for crying out loud.
      Not to mention 25% of the people i know in game, has been utterly unable to play at all becuase of disconnection and crashes.

      So yeah, launching before easter was dumb.
      It broke the game for so many people who was just about to get some decent play time, only so they could launch a headline feature, people seriously question the need for.

      Thanks FD.
      Its like you havent learned a thing since the release of 1.3."…

      "Elite Dangerous 2.3.01 bug fixes update coming early May"

    5. Theta Sigma 3 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Buddy, it's time to move on with your life.

    6. Theta Sigma 3 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Question: What would your 'vinvestment' be worth now?

      Answer: Now approaching double its original value

      Your lack of foresight has left you with nothing except countless wasted hours making excrement posts to an audience of approximately 3 individuals.

      So sad. What a waste.

    7. Oldschool Shadowrunner 3 days ago

      "FDEV current trading at all time high GBP 359.00"

      Two tiny trades. Following which trading closed down by 8%.

    8. Theta Sigma 3 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Buddy, it's time to move on with your life.

    9. Oldschool Shadowrunner 4 days ago

      I see Frontier fail over and over, and it is clear that they don't have any sense of balance in ANYTHING they do. They always give people their hopes up and it always ends in a huge disappointment because they making bad choices. The entire system must change, start over with the balance, in EVERYTHING, such as missions, engineering, piracy, mining, combat, trading, wings, multi-crew and so on.

      You should release tools which allows people to modify any aspect of the game and hosting their own servers to keep this game alive.

    10. Theta Sigma 4 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Buddy, it's time to move on with your life.

    11. Oldschool Shadowrunner 4 days ago

      I have completely lost faith in frontier..

      And this makes me extremely sad, few years ago when i upgraded my pc i did it solely to be able to play Elite properly, boy was i excited about the upcoming updates but ever since cqc they have slowly whittled away all of the goodwill i had towards them. I think at it's current state Elite offers one of the worst microtransaction schemes out there, it might all be cosmetic but before the last update our ships were our character, so it feels like an slap in the face when we have no ability to customize them without paying. Or how Frontier keeps adding bareboned features in such a shitty state that it's barely worth even trying them out.
      I was hoping for multicrew update to be the update that i got back to the game properly, i was even going to buy 2 copies so that i could get my friends on board my ship but the way they have handled this just made me want to quit even more.
      I love the game to bits but it's so sad how frontier is managing the game and i won't be back until they start fleshing stuff out that's already in the game.

    12. Theta Sigma 4 days ago


      Yeah man, Wyzak rage quit when he finally realised E:D and FDEV are not going to fail within his lifetime. Oldschool Shadowrunner? Not so much %^]

    13. Kerrash 4 days ago

      People still rage quittin' here? LOL

    14. deusx_ophc 4 days ago

      - FDEV current trading at all time high GBP 359.00
      - any questions?

    15. Oldschool Shadowrunner 4 days ago

      "I was totally ripped off with the "Founding Member of the Elite" level too - and hey, have they updated the pledges? "

      They are not allowed to update pledges. If they were, they wouldn't waste time vaping the Founding Member pledge, until they'd vaped the "Physical DRM-free collector's premium boxed edition of "Elite: Dangerous"." ... which earned them about £1m and which they never delivered. Conman Braben really knows how to pull a fast one.

    16. deusx_ophc 5 days ago

      @Theta Sigma well 1 in 3 isn't bad odds in my book ^^

    17. Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      @Dice Man

      Godus, Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous

      You sure have an eye for Kickstarter projects %^]

    18. Dice Man 5 days ago

      Bye.....gone forever.

    19. Dice Man 5 days ago

      I am the law!

    20. Dice Man 5 days ago

      *smug mode*

    21. Dice Man 5 days ago

      If no-one responds in the next 5 minutes then the game is stated as shit, wasted chance, not worth it, about as much fun as watching paint dry and a failure.

    22. Dice Man 5 days ago

      This is possibly the best conversation I have had in ages though......liberating in fact. So Braben - yes, I paid for the dream but it was an empty dream. Elite will always be those wireframe pythons blazing in the sky on a BBC Micro not the game currently sat on my hard drive that never gets opened.

    23. Dice Man 5 days ago

      Ah, it is a kickstarter change - the one you selected is at the top now. Elite: D is still shit though.

    24. Dice Man 5 days ago

      I was totally ripped off with the "Founding Member of the Elite" level too - and hey, have they updated the pledges? The 150 Founding Member has gone and no mention of it?!!! Way to go Frontier!

    25. Dice Man 5 days ago

      Freelancer was probably the last best space game I played. Full of atmosphere.

    26. Dice Man 5 days ago

      I loved Elite on the BBC Micro. I was stoked when the Kickstarter was announced, but 5 years later I am very content to be sat in the position that the game I wanted (The Dark Wheel novella version) is never going to happen and Elite: Dangerous just has to go on the wasted opportunity pile with Spore and No Mans Sky. I downloaded the new latest update but that was as far as I got. "Mile wide, inch deep" - so true. Shame.

    27. Oldschool Shadowrunner 5 days ago

      "The entire project is ass-backwards.
      This game has been "a mile wide, but an inch deep" since forever. Every update released is adding more mileage width to the pool, but the depth of said pool never changes. Each and every feature they add is half-baked, full of grind, and not fun after a few hours of playing it. There is no life at all to the galaxy.

    28. Theta Sigma 5 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      There is so much more to life than highlighting only negative reports about a game that you neither own nor play, and for which you received a full and complete refund of your pledge over 2 years ago, posting to a long-dead comments section read by approximately 2 people other then yourself. Even Wyzak The Bitter left long ago.

    29. Oldschool Shadowrunner 5 days ago

      "I've played since gamma, and this is by far the buggiest release candidate patch.

      Its fair enough to expect that the new features might be bugged, but it does somewhat astound me, how established features get completely broken so often. Again the mission mats rewards are completely borked, equisit focus crystals again are unobtanium. If I want to use the galaxy map I have to reduce my gfx settings because is screwed in 4k. Add to that the servers are just awesome at the moment, yesterday I had about 10 disconnects, its fair to say that even if you really like this game as I do, there's a bucket load to complain about at the moment."

      "Something is clearly wrong. And I mean clearly! I don't know what part in your team screws up though. Something has to. All the time since horizons release and it basically still feels like the absolute same game for me. Some small additions, but nothing big. Everything underwhelming, awkward or too obstruse to not be worth the effort. Why? Is management forcing bad decisions about the team? Are your game designers strictly bad because the different game modules all seem so barebones? Are they maybe limited by upper management and thus can't create creatively?
      Obviously you are doing bug fixing. And adding content. But its so slow! Its so barebones! It's so underwhelming! I feel disappointed after every patch. This is a feeling your customer should not have. And I simply don't know what you are doing that its ending up like this.

    30. Theta Sigma 6 days ago

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Buddy, it's time to move on with your life.

    31. Oldschool Shadowrunner 6 days ago

      "maybe, FD should simply stop diverting resources that we've given them for Elite into other games and actually focus on properly making the game we paid them for?

      I've paid around $165 USD so far for Elite, Horizons and some ship paint/cosmetic purchases. That's nearly 3X the standard going rate for a AAA game and yet Elite is still full of problems with gameplay and basic game mechanics. The new features we finally get, such as multicrew, are bare-bones implementations and fall far short of the type of immersive and complex system that they advertised and that everyone was hoping for."…

      "Are missions totally broken as well as the server ???
      Mission : Salvage 4 tons of Trade Data from system X
      Me : Have now salvaged 36 tons of trade data from system X and no mission update............."

      "I'm seriously thinking of charging back my recent purchases and shelving the game. The server drops and I no sooner log back in and they go down faster than a two buck hooker again....

    32. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 15

      I would like to thank the devs!

      For the most dire 2 hours spent in your game so far! A big, big hand guys!

      Where to even start?

      -Conda cockpit looks crap

      -I had to spend ages binding very basic camera controls because for some reason no one thought to do a preset!

      -Some camera controls overwrote flight controls despite them being for a seperate game "menu"!

      -I spent over an hour in the past setting up the old cam to work perfectly on my joystick, honestly how hard would it have been to keep the current settings where appropriate? Many I ended up mapping to the same buttons, but it wasted my time having to redo it.

      -I couldn't be bothered to try multicrew because I wanted to play the game not spend ages tweaking another set of controls because one bothered with a preset!

      -The chat interface had the text merging problem mentioned during Beta which hasn't been fixed, with the "to/from" and the commander name (though even only 6 letters) being overtyped....

      -Chat is now horrible to have a conversation with! Someone decided it was a great idea no longer to autoreply to your last message, so I now have to /r or tab to reply to messages every single time even if I want to just send 3 lines one after the other!

      -Holome...mostly ok but the time to flick between presets was frankly ridiculous! It was like loading the system map used to be! Or route plotting near the core! A good 5-10 seconds for each one!

      -Several times despite clicking save and exit and confirming it exited but did not save (decals, flight suit and eye colour specifically)

      -Not enough options for eybrows (mostly joking)

      -Ed preset not availalbe (really joking)

      -Very limited hairstyles which seem to have been based on the guys in the FDev office while most other features have far more flexibility

      -Landing on a planet I had before the brightness was insane! It was 2.5kls from the sun and it was so bright it literally gave me a headache! Space however was normal so if I made it darker on a planet it would ruin the balance in space!

      -For some daft reason I had to re add my scanner to a firegroup

      -All my firegroups for my SRV had disapeared

      -Even after mapping the gun/data scanner I couldn't use either, they just would not fire....I remapped them, still would not fire, I got back in my conda got out in my other srv, had to remap the gun/scanner again...still would not scan or shoot! Thats one way to nerf scan missions eh? Make the SRV unuseable SRV also seemed far twitchier than usual and took far more damage from just cruising 2km around on the planet surface

      -My commander is pale on the ship but almost black in the srv!……

      -The SRV turret now defaults to facing backward which is extreemly annoying when you want to swap between turret and driving and it totally disorients you!

      I could probably go on but I've got a stonking headache from the planet surface (thanks again) Perhaps you could do me a favour and point me to a station that sells painkillers at a discount?

      Added bugs experianced:

      -Dodgy sun textures

      -Dodgy planet textures

      -Instadaeth on res load in

      -Missing planets from systems I've been to before having to rescan

      -ships missing from galaxy map

      -multicrew connection issues

      -unable to select systems to plot jumps too on occasions

    33. Theta Sigma on April 15

      Cue: rock hard boner for OS

      Talk of legal action - no matter how remote and unlikely - always gets him reaching for the tissues

    34. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 15

      Discssion on legal action against Frontier for Mac ED.

      " The difference is centrally one of intention -- did Frontier intentionally mislead investors and the mac community to benefit themselves and in the process knowingly harm others? Or was it simply a consequence of a set of foreseeable if not ill-intended errors? "…

    35. Theta Sigma on April 15

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      You're an ex-backer of more than 2 years, now.

      Also, is it *really* ad hominem? Do you deny that you get very excited when you read a negative report about Elite: Dangerous?

      "conman Braben" - ad hominem, much?

      Carry on with those double-standards, you utter jokere %^]

    36. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 14

      You FDEV shareholders are slacking off. Don't forget your job is to defend conman Braben and try to push the share price up. Resorting to ad hominem attacks against fellow backers really doesn't cut it.

    37. Theta Sigma on April 14

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Dread to think about the state of your bedding and underwear after your last copypasta.

      Time to invest in Kleenex %^]

    38. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 13

      Elite: Dangerous rolled back to pre-2.3 state due to bugs caused by the update

      "I spent $5k on the KS. Not upset about the money, but I expected not to be outright lied to about what was going to be in the game. I expected the DDF Not to be outright ignored. I didn't expect to hear Sandro and Braben tell us (paraphrasing) "we will ignore negative criticism and only expand features when they are popular".
      They fucked the pooch hard here, and its sad that some are able to make excuses for it. Its not even really about just Elite anymore. Elite has already been fucked. If this is allowed to flourish, its bad for the industry in general."

      "Every single major update they've released comes delayed and or bug filled. This is nothing new from frontier and should be expected at this point.
      The first week or two are unplayable due to game or system breaking bugs, just look at the previous updates. To top it all off, after a couple weeks of excitement, it all wears off and you're left with wondering when they'll release something that will actually add a proper and deep playability concept."

    39. Theta Sigma on April 13


      Do you reckon OS jizzes his pants whilst reading bug reports for a game he neither plays nor owns? %^]

    40. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 13

      "Bugs, bugs, bugs and more bugs. Did I mention bugs?
      Ho-ly Thargoid. This update has not been passing the quality assurance tests. Not a single one of them. Multicrew will most likely disconnect someone, not connect at all or even crash the game.

      Planets don't render and most importnatly, don't exist anymore. I can fly through them.
      Plenty of minor bugs such as the data link scanner not remembering the module priority (even though it drains no power).
      Wrong images for holo-me outfitting of your character. Why do I see tattoos in the beard section?
      Missing heat sink sound upon deploying.
      False firegroup bounds. I never bind a SCB to my firegroups, I have a hotkey for that. Originally my FSD interdictor was there but it got replaced.
      Where are my stored modules? I know I have some stored but a little more than these. Some are missing.
      I can't remember having a crew on my board, why does it show me a multicrew session report upon log-in?
      Oh, look! An army of pack-hounds.
      Why are heat weapons still exceeding 100% heat? 150% shouldn't be possible.

      And these are just fro m2 hours of playtime with the new update. Oh dear, MANY hotfixes required. rather sooner than later. Maybe a closed beta for selected players is better than paid beta? I agree that open beta is pointless but paid beta? I am not paying you for allow me to do your job. If anything, the testers should be paid with ingame rewards such as special nameplates or something.

      Quality assurance: Failed.

      What are your discoveries so far?"

      "Having been a part of the beta, when I loaded up the newly released 2.3 all I could think was what the fuck FDEV? Honestly the bugs are that bad."

    41. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 12

      "The Commanders" - another shambolic Elite Dangerous expansion. The new multi-crew feature breaks the accounts of every Xbox user who plays it. From release, over two hundred bugs reported, many of which were known in the game during beta. Galaxy data is corrupted and Frontier have done a server roll-back, losing all subsequent player progress on factions etc.…

    42. Theta Sigma on April 12

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      Buddy, it's time to move on with your life.

    43. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 10

      "If dank memes can elect a president...maybe they can save Elite. So keep them coming."

    44. Theta Sigma on April 10


      Give up what, exactly? %^]

      There are approximately three regular readers of these comments.

      Posting here is utterly pointless as a means to either rubbish or support Frontier/Elite: Dangerous/Braben.

    45. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 10

      Your Frontier shareholders are never going to give up, are you?

    46. Theta Sigma on April 7

      @Oldschool Shadowrunner

      There's been so much bitterness flowing through your veins over the years you've wasted in this comment section that I imagine your face is beginning to resemble Palpatine.

      Buddy, it's time to move on.
      Life is too short.

    47. Oldschool Shadowrunner on April 7

      Frontier wins all it deserves in the BAFTA Games Awards.


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