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    1. Oldschool Shadowrunner 1 day ago

      > 48% of the reviews in the last 30 days are positive...

      And that's one of the better scores from the Elite Dangerous so-called franchise. Compare this:

      Elite Dangerous: Commander Pack - 28% of the 14 user reviews for this game are positive.
      http://store.steampowered.com/app/475180/

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      Wyzak 1 day ago

      http://store.steampowered.com/app/441340/#app_reviews_hash - 48% of the reviews in the last 30 days are positive...

    3. Oldschool Shadowrunner 2 days ago

      > any news on that pitiful £30mio fundraising round

      No news I've heard of. If Frontier does manage to raise any funds, hopefully they'll make a public announcement.

    4. deusx_ophc 2 days ago

      and getting back to a previous topic...any news on that pitiful £30mio fundraising round?!

    5. deusx_ophc 2 days ago

      So, after about 500 hours of playtime (I had 250+ hours on Horizons before it became DLC on steam) I think I can make a more educated review on what I think of Elite: Dangerous.

      I started the game about a year ago, mindlessley flying around space with no real direction to go in. This notion can confuse some people as then, there was not a clear objective, it was just you're in space so go do something. The primary directive for me or drive was to generate income and work my way up towards bigger and better ships, and I believe this applies to a majority of players. Before the engineers update however, missions were considered bland and repetitivem, with the only real ways to make money being long distance smuggling or large ship trading. For me, I didn't know what to do, and promptly left the game for nearly a year. I then came back to elite dangerous about 3 months before horizons, having an urge to give it a go. I also had a friend with me which in my opinion made the experience much more enjoyable as you had another person to explore or bounty hunt with.

      When planetary landing came out, me and my friend were playing all day from 10am to 2am for about a month or two. I think you have to simply enjoy the fun in flying to a planet, gliding down to the surface, deploying your SRV's and then surveying the brilliant terrain laid before you. Flying through canyons, landing in huge craters and taking hours to cross with your SRV. The game did a fantastic job of giving you a scope of just how big these planets are, and there are millions to explore, which to me was great.

      However, after months of us playing and repeating the same act of landing on planets, doing the occasional planetary base mission, we became quite bored with the game. This is a huge defining point for a lot of players. "Endgame". This is the stage where you have a comfortable sum of money in your account, you have tried every mission and done your fair amount of bounty hunting. What drive is there now to continue playing the game. For me and my friend there was none, and we were thoroughly dissapointed in the engineers update for a number of reasons:
      -We like many others did not like the random aspect to upgrades
      -It adds more grind to the already grindy game
      -It didn't feel like the wait was worth it
      However recentley I have gone back to the engineers and I am having a much better time. Frontier have definitley made mission boards much better and more understandable. Missions pre-update seemed broken, when stacking 10 missions only increased the rep of a faction by 1%.
      I believe that the engineers update tailors well for outfitting a smaller ship as you are able to collect materials much quicker and get to places a lot faster. Overall, I've had a brilliant time with this game, and I am thoroughly nostalgic towards the first time I landed on planets or explored a nebula. I really do hope frontier adds more content to planets but I think that engineers at it's core is a step in the right direction. For players who stop playing at end game, I have been there and have done so, however what kept me into the game was the brilliant feeling when exploring space and just marvelling at the brilliance of the graphics and sounds.
      -Brilliant Graphics
      -Upcoming DLC which will hopefully make the game a lot more rich with content
      -Huge planets with amazing terrain that you can explore for hours
      -An extremely large and expansive game space which can occupy your entire day.

      I'm glad that I discovered Elite and continued playing it and that's why I'd give it a reccomendation to those who would give it time.
      P.S. I know this review is all over the place, it's my first proper one kek

    6. deusx_ophc 2 days ago

      i have an idea!!! let's just all post random stuff from the steam review pages!! @OS are you down with that buddy?!

    7. Oldschool Shadowrunner 3 days ago

      Frontier backs down on in-game ban punishing criticism.

      http://steamcommunity.com/id/leewells2000/recommended/359320/
      "
      UPDATE: 7/26/2016

      I now have access to the game. I thank all of those supporting this review and petitioning Fdev on the forums.

      UPDATE: 7/24/2016

      My access was restored to the game in steam after contacting steam support and they replied that my access was suspended by the developer. While steam restored my access, I still do not have access to my acct.

      UPDATE: 7/23/2016

      This may just seal my fate, but I think everyone has a right to know this:

      I've seem some really bad moderation before in steam, but never to this level. One review I made on Life is Feudal had a helpful rating of 90% before it was banned by the LIF staff. That is pretty dirty, but that pales in comparison to getting salty with your customer because they are critical of your actions and claims stating that it is their opinion that you can't deliver on your promises (such as delivering 2.4 before December when their seasonal obligation expires, while it took them 6 months to deliver 2.1) and pulling their license and abily to play your game.

      Obviously they're trying to burry any mention of them not being able to deliver 3 minor versions before December, including banning folks, and even pulling their licenses in-game against their OWN EULA, as I do not cheat and do not play in OP.

      https://divinereapers.org/wp-content/uploads/rtMedia/users/1/2016/07/dropped2.jpg

      https://divinereapers.org/wp-content/uploads/rtMedia/users/1/2016/07/dropped3.jpg

      https://divinereapers.org/wp-content/uploads/rtMedia/users/1/2016/07/no-go.jpg

      This was literally a YEARs worth of grinding, 2 anacondas, and 1.4billion credits lost because I stated my opinion.

      I would advise extreme caution if you plan on approaching Frontier about their failed promises and false advertising, you might just end up like me with no way to play or even ask them "why". I advise against even contacting them with any sort of diffrential opinion of the game; in fact if you must speak out, do it on Reddit with an account that can't be traced to your Frontier or Steam account, else, welcome to the club.

      UPDATE: 7/22/2016

      Upon my first moderation action in their steam forums, I have received a 30-day ban for describing my experience with the game for the developers to read and then pointing out the thread was locked without reason after many others came in to talk about their bad experiences and showed a lot of support for the topic and my story. Apparently it is considered "excessive spamming and excessive harrassment to moderators" to point out that negative posts are disappearing from the forums without naming or pointing a finger at a single moderator (this is allowed in accordance with the steam community guidelines, so long as you do not call out any moderator, you are allow to express concern with posts disappearing, but not in the ED forums, especailly when you ask about release dates being removed from the steam store, and why the name changed from ED: Horizons Expansion to ED: Horizons Season Pass).

      Both, their official forums, and their steam forums suffers badly from dirty moderation (but not from the volunteer moderators, from the developoers themselves in which the post that got me banned clearly pointed out) in which a post will be made soon on Reddit about it. The TL;DR version is simply this: If you make a post about their poor sales on steam, or their failed commitments from the kickstarter or the Horizons Pre-Order, your topic gets locked and you risk being banned. Furthermore, it is noteworthy that when a publisher begins to censor its community based on civil feedback, the game is a lost cause. I've written the game off as a lot of money wasted, so do yourself a favor and look elsewhere for your next space-sim fix.

      https://divinereapers.org/wp-content/uploads/rtMedia/users/1/2016/07/mod-gone-wild.jpg

      But if you think maybe that is a hair overboard, consider this, this next bit is about Braiben, the CEO of this game telling his investors that he doesn't have to honor his commitments and promises with customers. He doesn't have to honor the commitments they make on steam, and they don't have to honor the commitments made in the kickstarter. This is who is running Elite: Dangerous; reflect on that.

      YouTube™ Video: Amati VCTs' Investor Day (Part 3 of 5) Frontier Developments Presentation
      Views: 444
      Amati Global Investors hosted a successful Portfolio Showcase for Investors and advisers at Clare College, Cambridge on 7 March 2014 giving us the opportunity to explain how the investment team at...

      11m43s

      "Non-recourse money" ~ Braiben

      That is what the CEO thinks of your loyality. What does that mean you ask? That means you can take your money and laugh in your face -- so he thinks. Non-recourse means no obligations, no strings attatched like a one-night-stand.

      So he said it, what exactly have they missed the mark on?

      See the kickstarter page here:

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

      Notice there are quite a few things promised on the kickstarter that is still not in the game. Also, notice in the FAQ that Planet landings hinted to be part of a free update after the initial beta release of the game.

      Several forum users here on steam have gone to archive.org and have pulled their old marketing material for Horizons. Nowhere, not a single place prior to August did they state in any fashion that Horizons would be airless planets only or that it would be broken up into pieces and slowly released over the course of a year.

      When Horizons was released, there was literally nothing to do but play Mario Carts on planets. Yet, the expansion sold for the the price of the main title itself which is what AAA titles sell for. One would expect the expansion to double the size and features of the game. Yet, again, Mario Carts only. In fact, the pre-order was so deceptively advertised and marketed, Valve, Inc, wanted nothing to do with it and denied it entry to the the store.

      https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/483366528909105291/

      So Frontier got around this by changing the name to season pass. Imagine that, Valve, Inc, telling Frontier their listing is too deceptive is like a druglord calling his client a junky. The shere implications of this on its face should be enough to make smart buyers think twice.

      The current "outstanding" commitments for Horizons is NPC ships and mutli-crew (players/npcs). In essence we were supposed to see 4 minor versions of Horizons in this "season" or "expansion", the expansion is only up to 2.1, yet they would have the community still believe they will deliver v2.2, v2.3, and v2.4 before December when their obligation to support the game expires.

      This company, Frontier Developments is borderline fraudsters, in fact, I'm shocked that there has been no class-actions filed to-date that allows all players, not just backers to file claims against this company. It is only a matter of time as I'm exploring the possibilities of a class-action myself with my own lawyers being as they have opened an office in the United States.

      These types of developers give the entire gaming industry a bad name and when they're given a free-pass for whatever reason, more and more publishers jump on the same wagon, because it is much more profitable to simply take your money for a finished product and deliver only 1/5 of a product. This has to stop.

      This has gotten so out of hand, the moderators are looking for any reason to shut down critical topics in their forums. I just saw where another user posted SteamSpy statistics as a reply to someone else's post about population in the game. His post was deleted and he was warnned by a moderator that it was off-topic.

      Therefor the user posted in a new thread, saying that being it was off-topic he was created a new topic. That topic was locked, the user was banned, and the moderator claimed he was attacking other moderators by saying, "I was told it was off-topic so I'm creating a new topic".

      Discuss the game at your own risk or... peril.

      OLDER REVIEW

      The review was removed to make room.
      "
      http://steamcommunity.com/id/leewells2000/recommended/359320/

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      Wyzak 4 days ago

      http://store.steampowered.com/app/441340/#app_reviews_hash - 51% of the 37 reviews in the last 30 days are positive.

    9. Oldschool Shadowrunner 4 days ago

      Now Frontier is resorting to banning in-game to punish a bad review on Steam.

      "This company, Frontier Developments is borderline fraudsters, in fact, I'm shocked that there has been no class-actions filed to-date that allows all players, not just backers to file claims against this company. It is only a matter of time as I'm exploring the possibilities of a class-action myself with my own lawyers being as they have opened an office in the United States.

      These types of developers give the entire gaming industry a bad name and when they're given a free-pass for whatever reason, more and more publishers jump on the same wagon, because it is much more profitable to simply take your money for a finished product and deliver only 1/5 of a product. This has to stop.
      "
      https://web.archive.org/web/20160725022505/http://steamcommunity.com/id/leewells2000/recommended/359320/

    10. deusx_ophc 6 days ago

      agm? of course i missed that... so anything helpful on the topic?

    11. Oldschool Shadowrunner 7 days ago

      Frontier 'fesses to to putting DRM in the Elite Dangerous game they sold as DRM-free ... two years late. https://archive.is/MYAMc#selection-1749.0-1771.15

    12. Oldschool Shadowrunner 7 days ago

      > and what fundraising please, i missed that =)

      Sounds like you missed the last Annual General Meeting too, then.

    13. deusx_ophc on July 19

      dear @os, one needs to be delusional to think one could impact a share price. well delusional or of the soros/buffet class. again very simple to see where you fit in ^^

      and rest assured that i am very happy with my FDEV invest, will keep adding to it when prudent and will sell... probably not for a very long time ^^

      and what fundraising please, i missed that =)

    14. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 18

      deusx_ophc, keep it up FDEV, shareholder. Shame your effort aren't doing any good for the falling share price or FDEV's pitiful £30m fundraising round...

    15. deusx_ophc on July 18

      and yet more egg on that face because anyone that actually reads below links would have to agree that there is a troll at work that doesn't need much feeding ^^

      still this heavenly place is different @os buddy - so please troll away unitl the end is nigh =) #doom #thargoids

    16. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 18

      The Frontier Forum Moderators of North Korea are busy today!

      "Is frontier in financial trouble?" DISCUSSION IS LOCKED
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/274091-Is-frontier-in-financial-trouble…

      "Frontier finally gets egg on face for false marketing." DISCUSSION IS LOCKED
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/274144-Frontier-finally-gets-egg-on-face-for-false-marketing…

    17. deusx_ophc on July 15

      we.... are.... dooooooomed!

      http://imgur.com/Fgk5nk5

    18. deusx_ophc on July 14

      @os watch out!! there behind you #thargoids!!

    19. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 13

      "Frontier cans its own $100,000 Elite Dangerous tournament - Is everything okay? * Eurogamer.net"
      https://archive.is/MYjLP

      Also some useful reading for Mr Braben. Better late than never, as they say.

      "‘not doing your sums right’ can be disastrous for devs – even if their crowdfunding campaign exceeds its target "
      http://www.develop-online.net/news/failing-on-kickstarter-is-better-than-succeeding-with-the-wrong-amount-of-money/0222251

    20. deusx_ophc on July 11

      fucking hell @os you keep bettering yourself. that last comment is a beautiful piece of commedy ^^ #doom #fraud

    21. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 11

      Avalanche wrote:
      > No idea if they can/should do that. £-8.9m seems to be a *big* number to put in there at the
      > end as a footnote. Could be standard practice and "capitalised R&D" could be a very
      > important distinction/reason. Alternatively...

      It's fraud. Capitalising research intangibles as assets is expressly disallowed by UK financial reporting standards for public companies such as Frontier.

      "No intangible asset arising from research (or from the research phase of an internal project) shall be recognised." http://www.ifrs.org/IFRSs/Documents/Technical-summaries-2014/IAS%2038.pdf

      Capitalising development is allowed, but only if it meets certain strict rules.

      > No idea why the number is known for the period, yet not deducted.

      If Frontier made the deduction, investors would immediately see the year's true result. A net loss of £2.9m.

      The way Frontier has removed that minus £8.9m to a tiny footnote means the main text shows only positive figures and keeps the word "loss" off the page, thereby increasing the chance that investors will mistake this report to be saying Frontier made a net profit.

      deux_ophc wrote:
      > FDEV have cap r&d as asset on their balance sheet last year, too

      Not true. They had no capitalised research. They had just a much smaller amount of capitalised development.

      > grows the balance sheet, which attracts capital.

      Yup, and we can see why that's important to Frontier, having recently voted through £millions of new shares to try to raise more money from investors and so far failed to sell any at all. And seeing a share price dive on bad news of Elite Dangerous performance, and now just announcing a drop in revenue, drop in cash and large net loss.

      Doesn't excuse fraud, though.

    22. deusx_ophc on July 11

      FDEV have cap r&d as asset on their balance sheet last year, too. there are rules as to when & how a UK plc can cap their r&d. grows the balance sheet, which attracts capital.
      the rest can be deduced as per your personal flavour #chemtrails

    23. Avalanche on July 9

      As someone who continues to not follow (understand) such things, footnote 1 to "...expects to report adjusted EBITDA of £6.1m..." is:

      "stated before the deduction of £8.9m of capitalised R&D in the period"

      No idea if they can/should do that. £-8.9m seems to be a *big* number to put in there at the end as a footnote. No idea why the number is known for the period, yet not deducted. Could be standard practice and "capitalised R&D" could be a very important distinction/reason. Alternatively...

    24. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 7

      Frontier Trading Update for the financial year just ended. https://archive.is/lpQms
      .
      Net result down £5.3m, to a £2.8m net loss (hidden away in a small-print footnote).
      Revenue down £1.5m
      Earnings before deductions down £0.9m
      Net cash down £1.9m
      .
      Frontier' cash is now dropping at a quarter of a million pounds per month (from comparison with April's trading update).
      .
      And (as last year) no statement of the rate of sales of Elite Dangerous game copies or the number of active Elite Dangerous players, both of which Steam indicates to be low and falling.
      .
      Predictably this truth hasn't stopped the Frontier forum from falsely reporting this update as saying full year sales of ED game copies is 1.7 million. https://archive.is/pxrH0

    25. deusx_ophc on July 5

      assets sold, company dissolved and @os on the #chemtrails

      a good days work ^^

    26. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 5

      Frontier shareholder deusx_ophc wrote: "the RNS report by FDEV makes exact and clear meantion of Library House and Mr. Cottons role."
      .
      The RNS report by FDEV completely fails to mention that Mr. Cotton's company Library House ended up IN ADMINISTRATION.
      .
      Despite that FDEV is subject to the stockmarket's AIM rules under which an director's appointment requires
      "the following information relating to each director and each proposed director:
      (v) details of any receiverships, compulsory liquidations, creditors’ voluntary liquidations, administrations, company voluntary arrangements or any composition or arrangement with its creditors generally or any class of its creditors of any company where such director was a director at the time of or within the twelve months preceding such events;"
      .
      And to cap that off, FDEV added the following false statement to the report: "There is nothing further to disclose in relation to AIM Rule 17 or Schedule Two, paragraph (g) of the AIM Rules for Companies."

    27. deusx_ophc on July 5

      #chemtrails

    28. deusx_ophc on July 5

      "I'm sure Charles is a fine upstanding fellow."

      well that is already a lot more than can be said about youself. you take 5 days for a reply and then come up with another fabrication? the RNS report by FDEV makes exact and clear meantion of Library House and Mr. Cottons role.

      you need to be careful with your libelous ways

    29. Oldschool Shadowrunner on July 4

      > Charles Cotton is appointed as a Non-Executive Director with FDEV from today.

      I'm sure Charles is a fine upstanding fellow.

      So why did Frontier deem it necessary to breach stockmarket regulations by failing to declare his directorship of a company in administration? That company being one run by disgraced Dragon's Den star Doug Richard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Richard

      "The provider of data to the venture capitalist industry has reportedly collapsed after struggling to deal with the economic downturn.

      According to a statement from Library House's lawyers given to digital media news website paid:Content:UK: "notice of intention to appoint administrators has been filed in court to protect the assets of company whilst the financial position of the company is reviewed".

      The name of the administrator has not yet been revealed and when BusinessZone.co.uk called the company the phone was not answered. Little press coverage has been given to the story but the news has been discussed by members of social network Twitter including one user claiming to be Doug Richard himself.

      Cambridge-based Library House's collapse follows the departure of 12 of its 30 staff earlier in the year.

      It also comes after it was revealed that Trutap, a mobile social network also founded by Richard, is struggling with the financial conditions.

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      https://web.archive.org/web/20160704141837/http://www.businesszone.co.uk/delete/idiot-box/doug-richards-library-house-goes-into-administration

    30. deusx_ophc on July 1

      http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/FDEV/12875901.html

      Charles Cotton is appointed as a Non-Executive Director with FDEV from today.

      Charles has a successful worldwide track record in high-growth technology companies. He was a Supervisory Board member of Euronext Amsterdam listed Tele Atlas which was sold to TomTom for €2.8Bn in 2008; Executive Chairman of NASDAQ listed GlobespanVirata Inc.; and CEO of Virata Corp. which he took public on NASDAQ in 1999 and achieved a market capitalisation of $5Bn in 2000.
       
      Charles is an active member of the Cambridge technology community, holding a range of technical and financial roles. He also founded and is currently Chairman of Cambridge Phenomenon International Ltd and has co-authored two books; The Cambridge Phenomenon 50 Years of Innovation and Enterprise and The Cambridge Phenomenon: Global Impact.
       
      that looks an impressive resume!

      though i wish @os or @wyzak here would have been considered for such a pivotal role.
      their grip on statistics and facts commends them and their well known global status as "dynamic duo" would have been such an asset to FDEV

      now i fear for the company

      #doom

    31. deusx_ophc on June 30

      maybe you guys can spin some expert facts in the meantime?!

    32. deusx_ophc on June 30

      slightly more intriguing, exciting and in every way shakespearean but no less #toxic news to follow elsewhere... et tu brute?

    33. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 29

      "Frontier Developments PLC (FDEV:LSE) set a new 52-week low during Tuesday's trading session when it reached 175.00. " - Investors Chronicle
      http://markets.investorschronicle.co.uk/research/Markets/Companies/Summary…

    34. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 28

      > Let's revisit the factual game scoring:

      Plus there's the ED starter pack, scoring even worse. 43%.

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      Wyzak on June 28

      Let's revisit the factual game scoring:
      Game, objective URL, recent score, overall score
      E:D http://store.steampowered.com/app/359320/#app_reviews_hash, 58%, 65%
      ED:H http://store.steampowered.com/app/441340/#app_reviews_hash, 65%, 66%

      Clearly it's a masterpiece!

    36. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 27

      "Edd Jordan

      Why so many people leaving FD?

      Right before anything (this is to try and find out what's going on)
      and i don't want this to become a us vs them vs fd moan grind thread of deathathon.

      Ok lots of people seem to be leaving the game or at least this forum. player numbers are really down on steam (not that i use it)
      We have had possibly the greatest advocate for the game ObsidianAnt of all people posting an unhappy video about engineers update.(someone who loves Elite and has done so much towards the game in user domain)
      I'm slightly confused why FD has not furnished us with any info of late. What's going on with the game from the point of view of further releases/updates and what have they gathered from all this? I mean are they sitting there going "well the forum people look angry but player numbers are stable from what the servers tell us?

      The reason im posting this is because if there is a major flaw and people are leaving in droves like the doom mongers are saying. where does that leave me and other commanders in the near future? I really want this game to go on and develope and get even better and deeper and richer. I think FD have built and incredible galaxy and base for the game. It would be such a shame for them not to get the chance and for us to have the chance to flesh it out and get things going a bit.

      I believe that this really is around the corner. Could we please FD just have some communication because i think that the player base is feeling very lonely out in the big black right now.

      Regards

      A confused and slightly concerned Commander
      "
      https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/267640-Why-so-many-people-leaving-FD

    37. deusx_ophc on June 27

      lol, delusional ^^

    38. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 27

      deus_ophc "yeah my business is also running to gear on ONE METRIC only!"
      .
      Is there even one metric by which Elite Dangerous is doing well? I haven't seen one. Unless you count the money that founder FDEV plc shareholders David Braben and Chris Sawyer have taken out by dumping their stock as the price goes down.
      .
      Horizons Steam recent reveiw score now down to 66%, a drop of 5% since the bungled Engineers release.
      .
      And of the most helpful recent reviews, it is 10%. Yes, 10%.
      .
      https://web.archive.org/web/20160627122006/http://store.steampowered.com/app/441340/

    39. deusx_ophc on June 26

      yeah my business is also running to gear on ONE METRIC only!
      steam reviews ftw ~
      what do you do when ED steam reviews hit 0% and game and company are still doing well (as they have done the last 20odd years) ?
      post more?

    40. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 25

      Steam recent review score falls to 51% http://store.steampowered.com/app/359320
      .
      That's a 5% drop in just 4 days, and an all-time low.

    41. deusx_ophc on June 25

      player1
      I still like the game and still play it, though not as often.

      I like the engineers update as it gives the game a little more personality and a little more reason to do different things. Still a way to go there but it's definitely a step in the right direction.

      I was never a min/max player or a PvPer, just plodding around in my spaceship doing stuff at my own pace.

      I think this is one of the most important things about the game and how to enjoy it. I'm the same. Never felt I was grinding, if I start to get bored I do something else.

      player2
      Likewise, I do have 'fits' that are fitted to a task, but right now I'm setting up the Princess Star (my anaconda) as a true multi-role vessel. She has a limited trade ability, can fight, can explore, can land and can scan. I have to juggle with her power settings constantly and loving it! When I have her engineered up a bit she'll be a real multi-role vessel capable of heading off into the void.

      player3
      Same here.

      My time to play is very limited (if I can put in more than 10 hours in a week, I'm fortunate) plus sometimes there's other games I want to play (my last distraction was Fallout 4) and I do have to switch up control schemes (and thus games) from time to time to avoid doing any more damage to the tendons in my wrist. I also bike and golf during not-winter.

      It looks like with Engineers, it may be the end of my primary vessel being an unarmed Cobra Mk 3 courier/explorer (Emerald's Dawn). I've been taking out my multi-role Cobra Mk 3 (Slave of the Empire). Already moved the Dawn's A-rated FSD and power distributor to the Slave, and upgraded its shields and power plant to match. I'll need it, now that it's worth my time to take a few more risks than I used to, including some of those combat missions I used to avoid.

      If I ever feel the need for peace and quiet, I'll survey some more planets in Imperial space. I know where to find quite a few of the very rare materials, but I'd like to find better sources closer to home.

      This is the best philosophy. The freedom of action

      ohhh what is this then ?

      THE FREEDOM OF ACTION !!!!

    42. deusx_ophc on June 25

      the price drop on friday is ONLY #brexit due. with a bit of luck we get back to GBP 1,50 and sterling staying as is be handy ^^

    43. deusx_ophc on June 25

      ps. any comment on ed 2.2? sounds like good direction and i bet deployment will be just the same ^^

    44. deusx_ophc on June 25

      @os ok what "loss" of 1,677,000? loss of 1,677,000 brain cells since reading post from @os? or is that adjusted brain cell loss after drink? or is it the loss of your elite:dangerous cdmr since you got wiped by the new ai? show me pls, you can copy past yes? and you can read and comprehend a basic uk a plc report?

    45. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 24

      deusx_ophc "please quickly grab the #brexit headline and FDEV suffering the single largest drop in their share price history "
      .
      To suggest FDEV's share price dive is due to #brexit is pathetic. FDEV's share price drop since the launch of this month's appallingly bugged Elite Dangerous update is nearly TWENTY FIVE TIMES the FTSE 100 drop. https://s32.postimg.org/8hq0fhped/image.png

    46. Oldschool Shadowrunner on June 24

      deusx_ophc "what exactly do you mean when you call "a huge financial loss" on that report?"
      .
      Which bit of that report's "loss £1,677,000" do you not understand?
      .
      Or is your problem with the word "huge"? Consider that loss in just six months is greater than the entire original Elite Dangerous development budget.

    47. deusx_ophc on June 24

      and please quickly grab the #brexit headline and FDEV suffering the single largest drop in their share price history (sry not sure in it is just trying to tag along ^^)

    48. deusx_ophc on June 24

      @wyzak lol wut?

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