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@Bill there are lots of things I am sure Frontier would keep completely secret as they should....I agree there. I was thinking people in the design forums would be allowed to talk about things to friends etc and sort of be ambassadors (if they chose to). Of course they can just keep it all to themselves. I don't know it is pure speculation I have no idea how it would be done.
@Bill I guess it depends if the design members are ambassadors as such so people can talk to them and they can choose to put the ideas forward OR if they are completely not allowed to talk about it outside of the forums.
That's probably the best option!
@ Pete - Yes, exactly the way I thought too - you put it in better words than me :)
@Styggron Possibly, they may want us to blog about what we discover to increase promo and awareness of the game...
@Andrew I think Lars is the #1 commentator.
@Pete Sounds good.
@Styggron: would be surprised if we didn't.
Styggron, good question.
For people in the design decision forums, do you think we will need to sign NDA's ?
@Styggron: Reminds me of a saying, that we are all on the same side, in our own entirely separate & sovereign ways. :)
The digital only tier could include the extra decal if people want that instead of physical stuff
To fix the £90 level for international pledgers, just make it an option to swap the physical artefacts for a digital vanity item, and ask in the questionnaire at the end. It doesn't need any chance to the pledges, but a clarification about this being an option that you can chose at the end (and avoid postage).
michael - minor, but the main page has update #13 labelled as update #12, probably needs corrected etc...
@Lars you are WAY ahead of me and always will be for comments. I don't stand a chance....I have to go to work during the week. :-P
I was thinking 3 x 90 tiers one with t-shirt- one with mug and 1 with digital only. that way you could mention twice that upgrades are included and it would save taking emails for what people wanted with their 90 pledge
@styggron-yep I know they can't change descriptions but you could add to any new tier that all th 90 tiers get free upgrades. I think that would be fairly clear
@JHewett. ELITE fans stick together man. I FULLY understand and appreciate your situation. The important thing is you are here and THAT makes a BIG difference!
@Bill / All
Ha ha, yes its going to be interesting to see :-)
Other funny stats/graphs will be like:
# Uber Key masher! (Most words/comment) - Looking at , Drew/Styggron!
# The big ASKER! (Has the most question marks in one day)
# Turn the volume down man!!!! (Most caps & exclamation marks)
See! This will be fun =)
@Stephen Unsure but I doubt it. What SC did was they rearrange the main page so when you scroll down there is a line that points to the £90 pledge and says additional information.
@Bil Irving: Styggron better hurry up with his comments,if he want to win,lol
@bill - don't. It will only encourage him ... :-)
Styggron. I wonder is KS will allow the main page to be re-organised so that the FAQ is at or near the top. At the moment it seems so far down the huge page that it's unlikely that most people will find it!
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@Lars: oops yep... statistics do not lie. Oh well... let the battle commence I suppose. :)
@Pete KS won't let them edit any details on pledges that people have alreday pledged on so they cannot change the description. This is why we need to help out people deciding and hope they read the updates and FAQ :-) All they can do is add a £90 digital only pledge and they would need to mention that this digital only pledge stands "alone" and levels above it does not include the digital only pledge. Levels above it includes either the physical or digital level £90 :-) It starts to get tricky and a little convoluted but is doable.
I think a tier somewhere below/around £50 with a "special" ship (in some form) would probably be a good idea to bring lower backers up a couple of steps, but as far as I have understood it that is already "in the works"? First I thought about opening up a new tier at £25, but I have changed my mind about that. It's much better to find ways to get existing £20 backers to move up and releasing slots that way instead. For me the £90 tier (£105 with shipping) now is a no-brainier, but we need to find a middle ground for people who can't/won't go that high.
@Bil Irving: Nope,i have nearly 500 more comments than @Styggron :p
@Styggron - thanks for the understanding. I am not always best at expressing myself 'on paper'.
@Bill You are very very very kind. :-)
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@JHewett YOu do NOT sound selfish. You sound COMPLETELY logical and reasonable. The choices need to please one person.....you. :-) and you have to feel comfortable and value for money and you know you are contributing to the funding of something amazing. :-)
Morning @Andrew Winter. @Styggron wins. That is all.
@ Michael. Well, you said that £90 was the right fit for the expansions to be included, so make it a £90 digital tier, with an exclusive decal.
Personally it would be unlikely for me to get the £90 tier with physical goods - I just could live with NOT getting what I paid for, so it would also cost me £15 extra for international shipping, but for the £90 digital tier...well, I would MAKE that happen.
@JHewett Like I said do NOT buy ANY game locally. Go to ozgameshop! :-) Check them out and be amazed. FREE shipping to australia as well.
@Bil and @styggron - Indeed ;) Lets hope they implement it. I do think adding info the pledge levels will help a bit, as it is what most new backers will look at pretty quickly. Certainly the free upgrades deserves a mention :)
@Andrew Winter: That would be me,i guess,lol
@Sean Houlihane Probably worth it, considering how much it slows down when the UK sleeps!
@JHewett As I also said below a second £90 wirth digital only is also fine. People outside UK save £15. I also bet most will go for the physical items because it costs the same. :-)
If FD introduced a new all digital tier with all updates included for £70, that will tempt a lot of people, (including me) i think.
£105 is simply too steep imho, and only the hardcore fans in the crowd will pledge that much.
Morning all! =)
Later today I'll be bringing you the 'flaming keyboard' award!!! - a daily leadership board for the users with the most comments (perhaps hall of shame for some) =)
Its just a little fun as we head for christmas & the finish line!
More comment board stats & awards to follow!!! =)
@John Harper: Yep. Not good,but hopefully it will speed up later today.
@Michael, seeing as decals (if user generated) cost Frontier Developments the cost of the storage space on the servers (i.e. almost nothing), other than possibly the cost of moderating them, it may be simplest to merely say that for every £20 above £5 you have an extra decal slot that someone can use to upload their decal design into.
It's simple, it's clear, if gives an incentive to upgrade and, most importantly, it costs the project almost nothing.
@ Styggron - Yeah, sure, that IS human nature, but as someone below already suggested, you could just have more than 1 £90 tier - 1 digital only, 1 for physical stuff etc.
I guess what I was trying to say is that there are alternative incentives for people who want digital only, that don't cost much to implement, and might draw a few people in.
As it stands I want to go £90 and don't want the physical items, but it is really borderline with my budget, and there is nothing that interests me in between (beta access would be nice though).
I do want this project to be successful and don't have heaps of cash spare, so I have to choose carefully where it all goes, especially this close to Christmas. £70 in Aud is worth a whole new game (or 2) to me.
sorry if I sound a little selfish, but these are the tough choices I have to make :)
@Nathanael Page, I just supported your project. Sounds like a great new reading experience
? five hours?
To get more US backers probably means more work on the forums, etc. More than the pricing effect, I think visibility is really what is holding us back there. That and the lower existing fan base for Elite.
@Pete Wadley: great minds!! :-)
@Pete True. Frontier would get more of the £90. and the descp could say that all £90 levels get free upgrades. It does not devalue those already at £90 and gives Frontier more £.
I bet they will do exactly that.