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'plate at night'???
Should read 'late at night'
@kiario it wouldn't be possible with multiplayer mode
Drew, Neil - thanks , spreading the word is just as crucial. I'm thinking a fan who starts his own kickstarter to fund another is romantic foolhardiness at its best - which is supposedly something that should attract the news, be it in a good or a negative light.
Tell me what you think about the story - if DB could give it a read that'd be great! Maybe they'll pick me to write the Dark Wheel (self-absorbed idiot on board)!
The last PC I got was built to my spec for me, it cost a little bit extra but I didntt have the time or the confidence to build it myself. It's great for gaming, but I do prefer my consoles as they are a more convenient form of gaming. I can sit in bed plate at night and game, which I couldn't do so easily if I only had a PC.
@kiario time dilation kills multiplayer
@Tim Longworth, I hear you on PCs, I've been through 5 over recent years having upgraded each on memory and power systems due to far too many joysticks and other devices off them. Then I decided to get an XBox and a PS3 just to turn it on without the need to spend an hour configuring and downloading drivers.
@Nat Firstly, If he hits his goal then he pays 4% if I understand the pricing policy correctly.
Secondly, He would still gain all royalties from the novel and thirdly isn't it a condition that you can't post in one project advertising another?
Perhaps he really has ED's interest at heart but he's advertising here and possibly drawing cash away from FD. Even if it's just the 4%..
@Liqua I guess I can see why that would be. It was a bit awkward. However it was possible to get good at it after a while (long while). I wouldn't mind it changing quite a bit towards the more responsive side, but I would hate it if the ships became super-responsive, as this would be close to impossible in space. A touch of inertia and newtonian physics is what made the game so realistic and immersive in my opinion. Love that part of it.
Can't wait to see what they decide. Do hope @David Braben trusts his own judgement though and doesn't make these decisions on a democratic basis :)
I think getting out & exploring planets would be a great extension of the Eliteverse. It could be possible with the procedural generation stuff. I've said before, if it's just going to be Frontier with 2014 graphics then that's just a wasted opportunity. I want to see seamless space->planet atmosphere->spaceport / flat land -> building -> brick.
David, what was the reason to scrap the acc. time travel? I really think acc. time is far more immersive way of travelling. I dont like disappearing and appearing. Acc. time makes you feel that you are permanently in the universe.
I read Risks and challenges part on the front page. I might cancel my pledge cuz of this and slowest updates. I hope he will show us more videos or so. No concept arts, plz.
@Nick Morgan yes i totally agree that PC's can be a real money pit when it comes down to it and its been many a year since i have built my own
Harry I'm sorry I've attracted your ire, and I had some reservations about doing this. A slice of that money goes to indiegogo and another one will go through the Paypal transfer because even if the project succeeds I won't be able to pay that amount due to limits imposed from my bank.
I'm sorry it seems like a money grabbing scheme, but it's not. For the most part, I'm trying to raise awareness. And on another note, just because I want to write a piece of Elite-approved fiction doesn't mean it'll be an overnight success. Publishing isn't that rosy.
I'll try and clarify things more with an update sometime tomorrow.
For now, just read the story and let me know if it's going in the right step.
I so hope this campaign will experience a boost of information and content so it will skyrocket like SC does in it's last hours. I pledged for both, but I actually think Elite will be the much better game for me. :)
@Nick, yeah, I used to play PC games, but there's a lot to be said for the no-faff plug and play of the XBox 360. I would maybe build a PC just to play Elite: Dangerous, but don't want to have to upgrade it every couple of years. Plus got fed up of all the problems with performance, virus and registry issues with my old ones. Not a teccie, so I couldn't get my head round all of it.
@Philip : With nearly 11500 backers I would be surprised if they had all played Elite before (could be wrong). On this forum I think you will find the more hardened followers of Elite.
@Pete Wadley - Inertia and Newtonian Physics was the one thing that put me off Frontier. Combat was like Jousting and space travel was yawnarama to which if you got it wrong you slammed into a planet. For me Elite got it perfect.
I kept my PC rig at games-spec for over ten years.....cold neon lights.....water cooling system....the lot! About 4 years ago it occurred to me that I'd spent an absolute bloody fortune.......I bought a 360.....i've never looked back. Fortunately I''m able to buy a new PC for this game upon release, although I'd rather not have to. Potentially, millions of players will miss out on Elite due to the cost of PC ownership. This is likely to be the most expensive single game I've ever played!
@Vasileios Bookmarked for later!
@Harry, And... therefore he isn't pocketting anything?
@Vasileios Nice one - you're ahead of me. Won't be able to launch mine until this evening...
@Jonty, just read your comments which sum up my feelings exactly. I would include the flying mechanics in this as well as I mentioned below. Really hope they hold on to a lot of the realism even though it is not as immediately accessible. I have all faith that @David Braben will manage to balance these things perfectly like before.
@jamie pears - good to see a debate on the subject though. I have a PC for work, dare I say it, a macbook for coding, art and fun and a console for playing games. I can see how the console market is holding back game development (that's a great point) and the next gen of consoles are in the pipeline so why bother with dev until they come out. I just can't bring myself to invest in a decent PC - so the comment about Elite being all about the game play cheers me up no end - I always preferred the BBC version to the Amiga one. Let's just hope it runs on my laptop or macbook (dual-booted) or I'll be blubbin until the console version tips up. I'm certainly not going to sit for hours tweeking a homebrew build PC anymore - I remember so ofter buying the new ATI Radeon of latest Nvidia GT (whatever) and always being disappointed. I bought a 360 and bingo, sit down, switch on, play. Zero hours spent tweaking video settings in games and downloading new drivers - all whilst emptying my pockets over and over. Anyway I've got better things to do... hopefully playing an inspiring version of Elite.
@ Nat And?
David Braben said one of the reasons for using KS to fund the project was to discover if there was a market for this game outside the people who had played Elite or any of it's incarnations. From the comments on this board it seems that a lot of people backing the project have played at least one of the existing Elite games. It's the people who have never heard of Elite that we need to pull into this to make the project a success. Anyone out there that has backed the project who have never played an Elite game?
Being able to get out and walk around on a planet's surface, while obviously not an essential feature, would still be fun and atmospheric in my opinion. Compared to generating the planet's surface (and hopefully weather), I assume that adding the ability to walk around the ships would be relatively straightforward. It would be cool to get a proper sense of the scale of the ships by standing outside them! It's harder to judge their size in space / in a space station.
@Harry, he's allowing for kickstarters fee.
@ David Braben
I too agree that jump ranges should be limited, but will there be options for the explorers amongst us to travel to the very far reaches? In FE2, I had to hack my old Sidewinder to give me the range I needed to explore the amazing galaxy you created in that game. I saw some great sights in my travels and lots of hidden away starports out on the RIM. I would love to do that again.
Please can you explain how Beta testing is carried out? Can it be done from outside UK? Thanks
It seems that a lot of people want a more 'fly by wire' system and changed combat from Frontier to a more arcade style. I really like the difficult but super realistic style of Frontier , which was more about conservation of momentum. I wouldn't mind a touch of fly by wire, which could afterall be implemented realistically with a more sophisticated array of boosters/engines but I would be really disappointed if it strayed too far from realism.
What do you all think?
@Vasileios Kalampakas I'd rather give my money direct to FD than have somebody else try to profit from their KS. I can't help but notice that the writers pack costs £4500 and you are looking for $8000 (£5000). So it seems that you really only want to "pledge" £4500", get all the rewards under that, " all royalties from the "novel" and stick £500 direct in your pocket.
@Jason Ford - I guess you're talking about either PvP, or "living the life of a pirate" ... well I am sure something like that will be possible but there are consequences to your actions don't forget. From the FAQ:
"Local police or military will respond very quickly and strongly to them."
@ David Braben : It is a good idea to limit hyperspace jump with current drive and fuel :-)
@Elliot my point is that Consoles hold back the power of the PC because most PC games are ports of consoles or are built up with the console in mind.
Remember Metro2033 or Crysis 1......Proper PC games that no Console could equal in terms of Visual Quality.
@DB - Great news David...great news indeed!
@DB Great, really happy about the hyperspace method. Tell us more about plans for ships, please....
Or what about the ability to set booby traps and wait in attack on the dark side of a moon/asteroid.
@A.I Ah the fun of building your own PC it brings back memories.
Just a suggestion guys, AngryJoe pulled in 1000's of the Backers for Star Citizen, I regulary watch his reviews of games and he is funny.
I suggest that you all register your name and post in this thread that i made on the Angry Joe forum, Ive asked him to review this project.
It can only help.....:-)
Geordie Marv - yes we plan to have a hyperspace maximum jump range, determined by drive and current fuel.
Jonty - Quite agree with your science 'grounding' point. The only real hard-to-justify bit is hyperspace - which we need for the game.
@ Graham TInkler : Agree with you. There is no need to explore a planet.
David Braben wrote - "The galaxy will be full-sized (as in the size of the real Milky Way). You will need to make hyperspace jumps to cover the vastdistances, but there will be no jump gates as it is too restrictive to travel."
Amen to that David. The main focus of the Elite games was, is and should always be, the freedom to go where you wish. Jump gates? No thanks! Ok for other space sims out there but never Elite.
@AI - I would have thought that 8GB ram would have been the minimum these days ... Sure you don't "need" it but compared to all the other components it's one are you can splash out on and see a difference.
Good evening everyone! Still no word from FD I see. Well, here's the update on my campaign at Indiegogo: if you like what you see, pledge so I can pledge to Elite in turn.
The update is part one of a short story - The Cargo.
@Dave Woods - Loving the Trotter avatar pic.
@Pete Wadley - It's been up a few days matey.
Jump out & walk would be amazing.. ranks high in my new feature requests/would likes.
@B1gdeano Was thinking about XBox 360 on the drive to work this morning. Its display is, what, maxed at 1080? That's pathetic compared to what my PC can do (1920 x 1200). And then I hear from developers that one of the problems with the XBox is memory bandwidth. You have to faff about and compromise to get things like Deferred Shading running at an acceptable speed.
The 360 is really terrible compared to even a bog standard PC (provided it doesn't come with integrated graphics).
I built my own PC here for under £600 - core i5. I'm sure you could do it for £450 - you don't need 8Gb of RAM, you don't need a 2Tb HD and you can get away with a graphics card around £75, rather than a £130 one.
Still plays everything on full, even Crysis 2.
I've been away too long! Only just seen that there is a description in the FAQ of what the 'Elite' are and what being a founding member means. How long has that been there :)
im with @Geordie Marv ... whats the need to get out of a ship and explore a planet !! if you want to do that go buy an xbox an play halo4 or something
@Gregory - Well, they do have the code from "The Outsider" they could utilise ;)