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Have a question?
First of all, sorry for late response. We understand your aggravation. We hope you can understand, how bad we feel letting people down this way. Nevertheless, we are happy to hear you are so involved in the process and willing to help out with the game. We are also ashamed to admit, that communication with our backers was not satisfactory enough. We are working hard to make it better. You and other backers are the reason we are keep trying, though many lost their faith in us.
You asked about the timeline of what was happening during that time. So here is just short summary of how things were.
In 2013, after our succesful campaign on Kickstarter, full of ambition we began to work on M.O.R.E. Not so long after, we realised how huge project we got involved ourselves into, and that our fundings were not enough to create the game we wanted. After second campaign, we managed to create stable version of M.O.R.E., but its AI was unbearable to us to accept it. In 2016 our team got significantly smaller and we got stuck. In 2017 we were back on track thanks to our new investor. We were able to hire new people and carry on with creating the game. Again, this is just short summary of our journey up to this point.But believe us when we say, we are not stopping. We have a lot planned, but detailed info will come shortly on upcoming update.
Are we at the refund part yet?
I try to stay even-tempered on posts here so here I go.
IdeaLcenter guys, or Game Goo...not sure what to call you.
A year ago I preached the concept of regular updates and I believe if memory serves you wrote back. An update two times a year only to tell us "we took steps back only to make it better" is frankly a joke.
Please understand me.
Many of us backed MORE for the game...BUT we also hoped to learn and to feel the passion for the game being built and the pitfalls that occur. Do not "shield" us from it thinking its negative press.
WE ALREADY PAID MONEY... it's not like you have to convince us it was worth it in the beginning.
Give us a timeline of what happened? How did things go wrong? How are you solving them?
And what your team is now? We want to feel like a part of the team here...Not a "stockholder" you are required to send a quick update to'.
I will be blatantly candid. If this is the way you communicate going forward, you will never see another $ from me in the future even if MORE comes out, just because of this *holds hands up in the air pointing to the communication we just received* is "Not part" of what I signed up for.
Now I hope it all comes out successfully.
I am not one that holds people to strict timelines as I know how projects slip due to unforseen circumstances.
But you HAVE TO TALK TO US...
Any news on what is going on, coming up on 4 years now would have expected at least an alpha build out for feedback by now?
I wrote this off as a failed project a long time ago. However, I do feel that in these instances it would be a morally correct thing to do, to release what they had to the backers. If only so we can see where the money went.
It was always clear this was a very ambitious project. Honestly, I don't care that much as I've got Stellaris in the meantime. If this ever finishes, I'll be happy for them.
1 MORE reason not to back Kickstarter projects.
No, again no information on progress. It will be "too early" again...
any updates or rough time frame on us getting to invade the universe?
@John Sponheimer - As we wrote in the last update.. we are here, we are working. From few months there is new quality of our work. We are working now in office together. So, there will be new content shown on screenshots.. and then we will release a new video... but not yet. Changes are big.. so we need some months to polish whole game.
I'll try to publish some update sooner than we've planned.
At this time you do realize...90% of the supporters of this kickstarter, and your other, think you have abandoned the project, and walked out with our money, or screwed up and ran out of money.
Lets be honest - You have one chance to gain thier trust back. Put out a video showing aspects of what is there...and what is not...and why this has NOT flown the way you expected.
Otherwise, even if you come out with a game, the name is tarnished forever in fans eyes.
We forgive mistakes. We don't forgive deceit.
When I backed this project all these years ago I said there's no way the project can deliver successfully with the amount of funds seeked. Looks like I was right.
A game idea conceived five years ago isn't going to match expectations no matter what, especially since changes in direction are taking forever. Move on, and put the five years down as a (loooooooooong) learning experience.
Best of luck and hope to get a chance to play the game soon
At this point I'm not expecting this project, like at all. In fact every time I've forgotten about it there seems to be a random update containing a whole lot of nothing but promising the world.
This last update I feel like I've read it three times already. Funding is secured, the team is set, development is going great, big things in a few months.
It's been over five years at this point, myself and nearly everyone else has moved on. There comes a point where a project has been in development hell for too long that it just isn't worth and chances are we are all well past that point with M.O.R.E.
Sorry but I just don't see this happening at this point and if it does I don't see the final product being worth it.
You secured enough funding 5 years ago to finish the game (plus stretch goals!). Then you had another kickstarter to raise even more funds just so you could deliver on your original promise. Now, years and years later, you break your very lengthy silence to say you've finally secured funds to finish the game and you'll get back to your backers in a few months.
I am embarrassed for you, that you think your conduct is anything but truly truly awful. You aren't even pretending you care about your backers anymore, so at least you're being honest about something.
Nearly 5 years going. What's up, guys? I can't even login to your website anymore.
Hello everyone - I was away for a pretty long time and wanted to check now for M.O.R.E. that I backed some while ago. Do I understand correctly that this game is not available yet?
I cant understand why someone is not assigned as part of being a reporter in a project. They keep the backers updated on the tasks and status...how hard is this? I hate to be snarky here.
Give us some updates!
You know what the problem is? Even if you DO release this game, no one's gonna give a shit any more. I have a little snigger every time I find an update email in my inbox. I'm just bemused you still make an effort to pretend you're working on it. Just enjoy my money and p**s off.
Happy anniversary IdeaLcenter, three years of failure.
This game appears to have taken the same 'bus to nowhere' as "Limit Theory".
I used to play Masters of Orion 2 for years the new one is amazing and fun.
Kiddie pool gameplay depth is infinitely better than nothing, which is exactly what IdeaLcenter has produced now going on THREE YEARS past their stated full product release date. Hilarious that IdeaLcenter is noted as a "2-time Creator" by Kickstarter, the only thing they have done is perpetrate the same scam twice.
the new Master of Orion had the gameplay depth of a kiddie pool.
So, seeing all these ads for a "Master of Orion"... seems to be getting mostly positive reviews. I wonder, what's going to be the point of this thing when it does come out and MoO has been in a sale or two?
New update is online. We are trying to extend our programmers team to speed up our development.
Well un July 24.th they promised on the forums to write an update.
I dont know how long this might take though :-/
So, all busy playing Stellaris, or is someone still waiting for this to happen?
Another $20 gone
Another month gone.
@mindmurderer - We think that in about 2-3 weeks we will start working on the last part - network layer - which is needed for us to release playable game. How much time those test will last? We don't know. Probably 2-3 months. During pre-alpha test we will release new video with official Alpha release date. Then all should go much faster, to Beta and Full version.
ok you guys are doing a lot of good work, but I have to say you should really since its almost 2 1/2 years past the kickstarter time frame you should really give us something tangible to see.
some of us paid for free dlc and above and if its taking this long for the base game what was the point/ it seems like you are trying to jam everything into the release where almost every other kickstarter project that was launched at the same time is at least in Early Access on steam, at least people have something tangible instead of feeling stiffed.
you should really consider giving something for people to tinker with at least a demo or anything to see some sort of progress.
@Aerouge - soon there should be an new update. We don't want to post update in middle of work. If you need a little more info what we are doing right now, take a look here:
@Fiachra Mac Aodha - We don't think that our game is redundant. It's very different from MoO:Cts
Two years and two Kickstarters past the original stated completion date without even an alpha release. This project should be renamed "ZERO"
This game was supposed to continue the legacy of Master of Orion 2, since the series had appeared to die with the disastrous MOO3. Master of Orion: Conquer the Stars just went into early access, making MORE pretty much redundant.
This project has the wrong name, it should be renamed "LESS"
Any updates on the project? Christmas was 2 months ago :-)
Thanks for the response IdeaLcenter - some blocked IP addresses include 220.127.116.11, 18.104.22.168 and 22.214.171.124.
We don't block anything. Maybe it's our host provider company? We will check it. Thank you for this info AstraWanderer.
I'm seeing the same problem as Wai Sing Lee has reported - www.morethegame.com not responding to connection attempts. It seems you are blocking access to Tor network users which includes those who use it to protect their online privacy. Please reconsider this policy.
Strange indeed. I'll write a PM to you about that.
Very odd, the Opera browser is actually a new install so it does not have any history in its cache. The error is the same across all three browsers...connection timed out. Must be something going on with my system then or with my VPN service.
Maybe try to completly refresh/reload webpage (CTRL+F5) or clear your browser cache if you can. If problem still exist you may send us your browser and system info on our support e-mail.
We had some problems in the beginning of october with our website, but it was problems at our web server provider. From this time I didn't receive any signals that something is wrong.
@IdeaLCenter, I don't know what is going on then. The site does not work on my PC and I tried with three different browsers. Normally, it works fine. I then tried it on my smartphone using Chrome and the site pops up fine. Both the PC and smartphone are using the same router (ie. Internet service).
Is anyone else having this problem?
@Wai Sing Lee - our website http://www.morethegame.com is working all the time. It's probably something with your connection or other reason.
This is interesting. The MORE game website is down and has been down for over a day now. C'mon...in this day and age it's not that hard to keep a site up and running!
I completely agree, 2 Kickstarters and more than 2 years after the estimated completion date, key elements have yet to be implemented, and this game is nowhere near completion. Idealcenter has blantantly lied to backers about the state of this game from the beginning. I have no expectations of this game ever being completed, and I know it would be futile to ask for a refund. I would like to ask everyone to complain about this project to Kickstarter in hopes of preventing Idealcenter from launching a third Kickstarter.
Folks, make sure to read Part 2 of the interview. We will not get a playable game for (in my estimation) another two years at least! Why? Because IdeaLcenter will not work on the game's AI until after the beta release. So, we go through pre-Alpha, Alpha, and Beta with a zombie of a game.
Even the interviewer was surprised at this approach of doing the AI.