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Strange indeed. I'll write a PM to you about that.
Very odd, the Opera browser is actually a new install so it does not have any history in its cache. The error is the same across all three browsers...connection timed out. Must be something going on with my system then or with my VPN service.
Maybe try to completly refresh/reload webpage (CTRL+F5) or clear your browser cache if you can. If problem still exist you may send us your browser and system info on our support e-mail.
We had some problems in the beginning of october with our website, but it was problems at our web server provider. From this time I didn't receive any signals that something is wrong.
@IdeaLCenter, I don't know what is going on then. The site does not work on my PC and I tried with three different browsers. Normally, it works fine. I then tried it on my smartphone using Chrome and the site pops up fine. Both the PC and smartphone are using the same router (ie. Internet service).
Is anyone else having this problem?
@Wai Sing Lee - our website http://www.morethegame.com is working all the time. It's probably something with your connection or other reason.
This is interesting. The MORE game website is down and has been down for over a day now. C'mon...in this day and age it's not that hard to keep a site up and running!
I completely agree, 2 Kickstarters and more than 2 years after the estimated completion date, key elements have yet to be implemented, and this game is nowhere near completion. Idealcenter has blantantly lied to backers about the state of this game from the beginning. I have no expectations of this game ever being completed, and I know it would be futile to ask for a refund. I would like to ask everyone to complain about this project to Kickstarter in hopes of preventing Idealcenter from launching a third Kickstarter.
Folks, make sure to read Part 2 of the interview. We will not get a playable game for (in my estimation) another two years at least! Why? Because IdeaLcenter will not work on the game's AI until after the beta release. So, we go through pre-Alpha, Alpha, and Beta with a zombie of a game.
Even the interviewer was surprised at this approach of doing the AI.
I really wish I could just get a refund at this point.
Good to hear something from you, thank you :)
We aren't delaying anything. Creating a good game takes time. Take a look at creator of Star Citizen or other big games. They have milions, big team and they are creating games for few years. We don't have big budget, we are very small team but with every month we move forward. We could give you bad game much sooner, but we didn't want to do that.
Soon we will start our pre-alpha multiplayer tests. We hope to give you Alpha in the end of the year. Also in the end of September there will be a Q&A with Nasrog from www.explorminate4x.com who saw our game live presentation :)
Soon we will post update, and new website. So stay tuned!
I feel like this company has taken our money and is just delaying the process until some time limit runs out. It has been over a year and a half after we were supposed to get this even. I believe that Kickstarter needs to look into this seriously and possibly defund unless they can provide some proof of work instead of just Concept
We'll try to post more updates in upcoming months, but we don't want to make updates when we are still working on something.
Great work you've done! And thanks for bringing us updates every few months so we know the project is still progressing :)
"this weekend or just after it" is now in the past for some time. Any news?
@Ryan Saige - We was working recently on auto space battles and ground combat. More info in update soon. We want to release it when we will finish this part of game. It should be this weekend or just after it.
So what is the progress on this game? Seems like it's been a while since I've heard anything, with no news of a release coming.
@mikebert - Update will be coming this week.
So where are the updates on your progress? Where is the beta version that was supposed to be available a year and a half ago?
@mikebert - Something what is called "Master of Orion" doesn't need to be a truly MoO successor. Do you remember MoO3 ? ;) And we are working everyday with M.O.R.E.
Hey IdeaLcenter, please give me a refund, tired of waiting for something that will never come, you are already obsolete
IdeaLcenter, according to your second campaign, you were supposed to have the Alpha ready by Q1 of this year. Judging by the list of items that you are working on, I don't believe that the Alpha will even be ready for a Q2 release.
Well, hey, thanks for FINALLY releasing an update. The problem that I have is that is that you can't even give us a firm date for an ALPHA version, so when can those of us who pledged for the FULL version (delivery estimate December 2013) expect to receive something?
@Charles Gulotta - We've post new update just now.
still no update? When can we expect to see something!
We are sorry that our last update is not there yet. We planned to post it earlier, but we want to to finish big part of our game before posting it - and we are very close now.
If you need to have more frequent info, please visit our forum topic:
Thanks for the big Friday update. Over one year past your stated release date and still no beta, and very few updates. When are you planning on launching your third Kickstarter?
Yes, we want to post update this week. I hope we can do it on Friday.
Hey guys, any news? The last update was long ago!
While this is taking a long time, I am ok with it. I'd rather have something good than something fast.
Estimated delivery: Dec 2013????? or was it suppose to be 2015????
@JdH - yes of course, we will be informing backers from both of our campaign about progress on M.O.R.E. Now there may be few more additional updates related to 2nd Kick campaign, but after them, those updates will be the same.
I expect you to provide us one time backers with the same text updates if they are relevant to us. I don't want to have to look if you made an update for your second ks that might be interesting to me.
Hello Shawn. In this case, please send us a message with your nickname which you want to have in M.O.R.E. universe by e-mail or private message here. We will add it to our database and you'll be able to reset your password and login into your account.
Hi, when I try to reset my password I get the error "nickname field cannot be empty." I want to check if I named my star. I don't think I did.
We've updated our KS2 campaign with new text informations about galaxies and rewards. We don't want to spam our backers e-mail, so we've decided to send you information only about video updates.
@Eivind. It's huge game, and we want to create good game. Anyway, we are moving forward with progress of our game.
More delay, yay
Hello. We invite you to take part in discussion about one of our alien races:
Yes, you can do it, if you are at least $5 backer.
You should be able to do it after login into your account on: http://www.morethegame.com/customer/account/login/
If you can't login, and can't reset your password, you probably missed our mail with link to activate your account. In such case, please send us information - by P.M here or to our e-mail: support (at) morethegame.com with your choosen nickname which you will have in M.O.R.E. universe. Please choose wise, as you won't be able to change it later.
After naming your star system, please check it again in 1-2 weeks, as we are accepting those names or rejecting incorrect. You can check now accepted names in "Stars", and report name which is offensive in your opinion.
If you want to name more star systems, you can become our supporter in our Kickstarter 2 campaign.
If I didn't name my star yet, can I still do it?
We are going to release pre-alpha playable version this year. As you can see here: http://morethegame.com/forum/viewtopic.php… we are quite close to it. Then we will progress our path. Don't worry. We will finish M.O.R.E.
Yes, make a simpler game faster. This is exactly what you need to do. It's the only chance you have of releasing a finished game. Real artists ship.
@Tory. And we are creating this game as you can see. We've 7 more video updates ahead of us. And during this time, we are going straight to pre-alpha/alpha version. When you'll see all, I think that you'll have better knowledge where we are in our progress of finishing our game.
We have choice, stay with $60k budget and cut some our ideas.. create something like Lords of Pegasus or Endless Space or something.. ot try to really change 4x genre. We decided to go this second path.
We could make simpler game faster.. but we saw possibility to create trully a game which can be proud of - without any compromieses. So yes, now we are trying to raise our budget a little. Then our plans are to go to Steam Early Access - but we want to have then working Alpha or even Beta prototype.
Hmm funny there is a faq on this very page that addresses this concern:
"I'm quite skeptical that a game with this many features and assets can be developed for $50,000 and with a team of only 12 people. Seems like a serious case of underestimating to me.
Yes, $50,000 will be sufficient to finish our project, because we will invest into it our own money and time, as well the cost of living//working in Poland is slightly smaller than the U.S. or Western Europe."
This is why I'm annoyed. You promised to create a game on this ridiculusly small sum of money, and I was foolish enough to believe you. What good is the paltry 10000 that the second campaign asks for going do anyways? Look out for M.O.R.E part 3! If you are stuck, just be honest please.
@Joe - we aren't asking you for more money. We only propose you such option if you like our progress.
For funding games:
http://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649 (milions of $)
For funding Endless Space (under 1.000.000 Euro ~$1.300.000)
Kickstarter - fees - taxes = $60.000 (over 20 times less than endless space, and we are creating far more challenging game!)
And yes, we are a year for final release, because we want you to give you real MoO2 successor, not some simple bad game - just to fulfill our obligations on time. We are sorry that you don't like our approach.
Also we are very sorry that you don't like tone of our replies, because we always try to stay polite and we try to explain all to our backers.
Maybe our further video updates will make you change your mind about our progress.
The unapologetic way in which the developers are asking existing backers for more money to keep themselves in a job, with the game not even close to release, is very, very disappointing.
I am very tolerant of indie developers delaying their release - these things happen with small teams - but the poor tone of the replies and lack of accountability for utterly failing to deliver this game... I'm just embarrassed for them.
My investment wasn't much but how could they actually believe they deserve MORE of our money, when they got $40k more than they asked for originally and that still isn't enough to fund the game?
Other projects have done a 2nd kickstarter and finished the game. I understand other people's concerns, but I don't see the any problems here.
Thank you Jon for your positive comment. We've tried to describe why we are starting this campaign etc. We don't force you to support us again, but some of our first campaign backers already did it. That's great! And we are grateful.
If you are angry at us for starting this campaign to make M.O.R.E. a better game ( making our game budget larger, will let us to maintain our coworkers hired) you shoud be also angry at us, that we are collecting pre-orders from Jan 2014.
And no, we will finish M.O.R.E. in a way, that we will be proud of it, and we do anything to achieve this goal. Even if this mean starting Kickstarter 2 campaign and making some of our previous backers angry. (which is sad of course for us)
Take your time and get it right. Let people be offended, you are chasing your dream game and it takes time. I will not be disappointed until you say that there will be no game (and that should never happen :)
Well if the first kickstarter didn't deliver, I'd be a fool to spend money on another.