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    1. Oneby Creator on

      @thelostswede
      1. After verification, our modules are certified Zigbee Home Automation .
      2. We do not currently support Google Thread but we're at the prototyping stage . Our hardware is subject to change ( upgrade only )
      3. We do not have access to high-end components for now ( our volumes are too low ) but we are in contact with other suppliers . But we think our current solution is sufficient for most users . We want to provide the best possible equipment but prefer to indicate the elements that we are sure we can provide . We don't want to promise a component before we find a supplier and an affordable price.
      6. Indeed the Thread support is not possible with the current hardware. But given the number of return , we will certainly review it.
      7. Currently we use Debian in our demo but the final choice is not fixed.

    2. thelostswede on

      1. I think you guys need to read up on ZigBee, as just because you support ZigBee Pro, doesn't mean you'll have a fully implemented ZigBee HA stack.

      2. So you're using the old EM357 chipset then? Which means no support for Google Thread, only ZigBee.

      3. That's a client Wi-Fi card, not a router solution.

      6. Thread, as in Google Thread - http://www.threadgroup.org/

      7. That really says nothing, unless you're trying to say that you've built a custom Linux based on from scratch that you're planning to open source.

      Also, please see your PM inbox.

    3. Oneby Creator on

      Hey @thelostswede,

      Just give us the time to answer your questions.
      We are just waiting for our dev to give you the best answer you are waiting for.

      @thelostswede

      1. You said in another answer that you support ZigBee Pro, does that mean you don't offer ZigBee HA profile support? If not, then it's kind of pointless to include ZigBee as it'll be impossible to connect to any retail ZigBee devices.
      We are refering to Zigbee Pro as the network stack supported by our selected hardware. This is the full-feature Zigbee stack that allows to implement any application profile. Lylo will, especially, be able to communicate with any end device which implements the Home Automation profile from day 1. Don't worry.

      2. Who's chipset are you using for ZigBee?
      We are using a ETRX357-HR chipset.

      3. What's the Wi-Fi chipset and why only 2x2? This is a €299 product, it should at least be AC1900 (i.e. 3x3) for that kind of money. 802.11ac isn't new any more.
      We are using that wifi+BT : chipsetAW-CE123H - AzureWave 802.11ac/n/g/b + BlueTooth , 2.4GHz+5GHz, mini-PCIe.
      However, we are looking to work with the chipset of Unex, a module 3x3 MIMO with beam forming. We will keep the community in touch about all new features.

      4. Is the screen a touch screen?
      No, it isn't, it's a normal screen.

      5. Do you have ZigBee and Z-Wave working? All your demo's seemed to be of Wi-Fi and 433MHz devices.
      Yes, it does. Stay tuned for more videos where we will show it to you.

      6. Will there be Thread support in the future if this "standard" takes off?
      What standard are you talking about ?

      7. Which OS are you using for the base for Lylo?
      It's a Linux with a Python software

      8. How much flash memory does the Lylo have?
      4GB

      9. Will the wood be treated so it can be used in humid climates without growing mould etc?
      Yeah, of course. The wood will be treated against humidity and mold.

      10. How big is the screen?
      The screen size is 1.54 inch. It's an OLed.

      Thanks again for all your questions. Lylo is still a prototype and we working to get the best device that you could expect so all your advices and questions are helping us to improve it.

    4. thelostswede on

      I'm sorry, did I ask too technical questions? I'm not going to spend this kind of money on a router if the company behind it can't even answer a few, fairly simple technical questions that have been omitted from the very sparse specs posted on the campaign. This is a technology product after all and you claim open source support, but without knowing more about the hardware and software, your claims are pretty moot.

    5. Oneby Creator on

      @ hmb: We do apologize. I made a mistake about your answer. It's a 4.2 Bluetooth! So yes to your question.

      We can't edit our pm or commentaries. No space for mistakes.

      Thanks for your understanding and your contribution!

      The Oneby Team

    6. hmb on

      Thanks for the response :) However, it would help to clear things up if you check your messages before submitting them because sometimes I find them confusing. Take for example this:
      "Our actual choice doesn't support BT 4.2 which could probably talk on a mesh network but not doing "forwarding"" - 1 hour ago
      "The versions we support are BlueTooth 4.2 & Zigbee PRO" - 1 day ago

      So - is bluetooth 4.2 supported or not?

      Besides that - I do like the concept of your product!

    7. Oneby Creator on

      Hey @Hmb,

      We come back on your questions :

      - is it wall-mounted or is it not wall-mounted? That word "but" in that sentence sounds a bit odd
      My bad, it wasn't clear enough.
      It's not created to be wall-mounter (so no mirror screen). Anyway, the idea is nice.

      - Is that Bluetooth version software upgradable later so that Lylo will support mesh networking?
      No, cause the actual module is integrated in the Wifi+BT controller. Our actual choice doesn't support BT 4.2 which could probably talk on a mesh network but not doing "forwarding".

      - Does Zigbee PRO mean that it is possible to upgrade to zigbee 3.0 later, so that it will support more devices later?
      Yes, it will be possible to support Zigbee 3.0 through an update.

      - What do you mean with "alternative solutions"? will they be part of Lylo?
      We constantly check about alternatives to make Lylo better. So for example about the antennas if we find better ones until we produce it we will adapt it for Lylo, so yes they will be part of Lylo.

      We are still open to answer all your other questions so feel free to post them

      Best regards

      The Oneby Team

    8. thelostswede on

      Ok, a lot of questions coming here.

      1. You said in another answer that you support ZigBee Pro, does that mean you don't offer ZigBee HA profile support? If not, then it's kind of pointless to include ZigBee as it'll be impossible to connect to any retail ZigBee devices.

      2. Who's chipset are you using for ZigBee?

      3. What's the Wi-Fi chipset and why only 2x2? This is a €299 product, it should at least be AC1900 (i.e. 3x3) for that kind of money. 802.11ac isn't new any more.

      4. Is the screen a touch screen?

      5. Do you have ZigBee and Z-Wave working? All your demo's seemed to be of Wi-Fi and 433MHz devices.

      6. Will there be Thread support in the future if this "standard" takes off?

      7. Which OS are you using for the base for Lylo?

      8. How much flash memory does the Lylo have?

      9. Will the wood be treated so it can be used in humid climates without growing mould etc?

      10. How big is the screen?

    9. Oneby Creator on

      Hey acuncolta,

      Of course an API will be available !

      Thanks for your interest

      The Oneby Team

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      acuncolta on

      Hello,
      Very interested by your project.
      I have one question : an API Will be available ?
      Thank you

    11. hmb on

      Hi,
      thank you for the explanation. I was still wondering about a few things:
      - is it wall-mounted or is it not wall-mounted? That word "but" in that sentence sounds a bit odd
      - Is that Bluetooth version software upgradable later so that Lylo will support mesh networking?
      - Does Zigbee PRO mean that it is possible to upgrade to zigbee 3.0 later, so that it will support more devices later?
      - What do you mean with "alternative solutions"? will they be part of Lylo?

    12. Oneby Creator on

      Hello Hmb,

      Our plans with all the norms are simple, we want to give you the possibility to connect any existing devices, that you already got or that you are planning to buy, with Lylo. We are ready to support most of the devices.
      The motion sensor was a DI-O connected through 433mhz.

      Lylo has been created to be put anywhere but is wall-mounted, so we didn't put the possibility to mirror the screen. But why not maybe we could think about this idea for later.

      About ethernet connection it's a 3+1 connections (so 3 + 1 WAN connection)

      The versions we support are BlueTooth 4.2 & Zigbee PRO

      The actual solution we use support wifi ac 2*2 but without beam forming but we are working on alternative solutions

      Hope everything is clear, don't hesitate to contact us back

      The Oneby Team

    13. hmb on

      Also - which versions of bluetooth and zigbee do you support?

      And how many wifi antennas are integrated in Lylo? (used for MIMO)

    14. hmb on

      Hi,
      it would be interesting to hear more about your plans with zigbee, z-wave, Bluetooth.

      What kind of PIR motion sensor did you use in the HA video?

      Also - is Lylo made to be wall-mounted with the connections pointed towards the floor? Can the screen be mirrored upside-down if Lylo is mounted like that?

      You wrote "4 ethernet connections" - does that include the WAN connection (so 4 ethernet connections in total) or are there 4+1 connections?

    15. Oneby Creator on

      @ M.: Hey M, we also get 5.0 ghz of course :)

    16. M.
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      Hey guys, why you only use 2,4ghz? :)