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Another note of interest for those who don't know... I just follow all the people related with creating Homestuck and on the Hiveswap creative team casually and over the years the most dispiriting thing was the dissolution of the NYC studio for What Pumpkin back when the game was still 3D, shortly after the careful nondisclosure after the TOG money waste thing. Apparently the whole thing is being funded out of pocket since then, and the remaining team, apparently now working over the internet? were grimly determined to work through and deliver a product. So kudos to them? Purely judging from the dropped comments over the years, it seemed like a close thing.
Update to all those who don't know:
Hiveswap has been confirmed by multiple people working on the project that 'Act 1' out of presumably four will definitely be released in January 2017. It was updated on the hiveswap site proper, and in the new trailer released on youtube. For those who have forgotton, the episodic nature was decided years ago and the $15 backers will receive the entire game and all Acts with their pledge.
The game will be in 2D, not involve the main storyline or apparently sburb in general, and then basic plot is that a Universe B1 Joey Claire finds herself on Universe A2 Alternia with Dammek's morail, who she swapped places with a lowblood troll named Dammek, who finds himself on Earth with Jude Harley. Something something end of the universe, doomsday devices, find their way back home, parallel adventures. Dammek's story, if explored, would be a sequel game called Hauntswitch.
Music is by James Roach and Toby Fox. Writers include Cohen Edenfield of twitter fame, Ryan North, and Andrew Hussie. Animators/artists include a lot of people who've contributed to the comic in the past and have animated Collide and Act 7, etc etc. All have been working behind the scenes with apparent excitement and industriousness, even after the apparent bust with The Odd Gentlemen, and the switch from 3D assets to 2D.
Homestuck is still updating, currently over snapchat, 'post-canon' content that will lead up to an Epilogue that has not been posted yet. Probably will be consolidated on the MSPA site later like the 'Credits.'
I don't know why they stopped updating the Kickstarter page, but have been updating all their personal/art blogs, youtube, and Hiveswap main site. Presumably they will update Kickstarter and MSPA proper site when they have more information. I do know not updating Kickstarter with a frequency to your liking is not grounds to a class action suit.
Also presumably, they will send out a survey for updated mailing information if you got a physical game, etc etc for everything else beginning of January 2017. Cheers!
hello to whatpumpkin and andrew hussie: i have recently moved and was wondering how to change my mailing address
To Hussie and WhatPumpkin: I'm looking at the stretch goals, and noticing that the 1.5M goal (reached) states "All backers can beta test adventure game". As a release timeframe has been officially announced, I'm quite curious when this promised beta period is supposed to begin and be open for. Could this information please be included in the next backer update? (Which I'm expecting to be fairly soon since we're less than 3 months from announced release, and I would expect there to be a beta test period of at least a few weeks to avoid a potentially disastrous public release.)
Hussie, you have a month to give your backers an update (I should NOT be finding updates from news outlets like PCgamer. Fuck you.). If we do not get a proper update and apology, I am organizing a class action lawsuit for this bullshit and I know looking through these comments I'm not alone.
You have until December 11, 2016 to post us an update, a proper one, and an apology before I and others take action.
Just came back to check things out, glad progress is happening and I'm really liking the trailer.
Also the plan has changed a lot since the start, maybe It will come on multiple flash drives since it's coming in more than one part? It would suck to be locked out until both parts release.
a reminder backers get the "whole" game on their cd/usb. so... even if part one comes out we may be the last to get it.
Any news about my 15$?
Folks, if you're able to post here in the backer comments that means that they have a means to contact you and ask for current address info. You have nothing to worry about.
Like Rachel Kinlaw said below me, what do we do if we have moved?
Do we need to get a class action lawsuit going just to get an update here? Kickstarter is where you got your money for this and not posting news here for those who financed you is really just plain stupid. For those who haven't seen the twitter update or the website update they dropped a teaser on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch… if you want to get updates moving forward follow @hiveswapgame since they seem to not care about the Kickstarter backers. Supposedly the first episode drops January 2017, so using Hussie-time I guess that means sometime in 2020.
What do I do if I've moved since I backed the project and I'm supposed to get the physical copy in the mail?
Hey, I totally get that bad crap has happened to this project and you're probably exhausted by it all and just want it to be over, but it is inexcusable to not update your backers. I wouldn't even know that a trailer was out without commenters here because Homestuck is deader than a decayed horse.
The trailer does look pretty cool though.
Look, news! A tad disappointed there was no updated for Kickstarters about this but you know, news is news
The new artwork looks amazing, I can't wait to meet Joey! (That is a lie, I have waited and I will continue to wait for Hussie and team to make it a terrific game)
@Stephanie Rainey: It was stated as soon as the game was confirmed to be episodic that everyone who backed would receive all episodes (or acts, same thing) of Hiveswap. We've known this would be the case since 2014.
I agree that not making an update on the KS campaign page is lame, but at least they're finally gonna start releasing the game in January...
Andrew already exhausted the words he was willing to write for the MSPA news post. We'll have to wait another 9 months for him to recharge.
Every so often I remember I contributed to this and hope to see something. Check my inbox, can't even find mention it exists. Track down the kickstarter, no updates in over a year. Trailer appears out of nowhere. What is happening here?
Any plans on updating your backers on the status of the game? Linking your backers to the site you're updating? Giving your backers any indication that this project is still alive? Letting your backers know if they're only going to get "Act 1" as part of their rewards, or if they're going to get everything?
Come on, please just give us some sign of life here...
I'm going to be a little annoyed if we don't get an update about the trailer here...
TRAILER IS UP! RELEASE DATE IS UP! REJOICE!
They can change their Facebook cover page but not update?
Dude seriously give us an update on this or I'm organizing a class action lawsuit. Its been way too long, you've done nothing but waste the money, and all of the backer rewards you put in the shop anyway so they're not even something special. I'm sick of this. Refund our money or make the fucking game.
Pretty sure the only refunds I've ever seen happen are either 1) Given by the creator willingly. or 2) The result of a class action lawsuit.
I have seen refunds given for Kickstarters before but it was a very rare occurrence and basically required harassing the project creator until they responded.
@David Alexander: Cases only enter the public record once a complaint is filed. If they are in a pre litigation investigation of the facts or simply trying to mediate outside of the courts, there would not be a record.
I have never heard of a KS refunding. Like others have said, target TOG. Given Hussie's history, it seems unlikely that he would go this long without communicating unless there was a good reason (such a jeopardizing a court case that involved backer money). I don't know anything about law, but aren't cases like this in the public record? Maybe somebody who knows about it can find out
This project is deader than dead. There won't be refunds, there won't be updates, there won't be a game. Take solace in the few rewards you were sent, they're all you're going to get. I regret every cent I put into this, but now I know better than to trust a creator just because they've made something I enjoyed before.
Update or refund!
@hiveswapgame 2016 called, they said they're going to DIE soon! They were hoping you'd say something, ANYTHING REALLY.
Ffs. You can't play the GIGAPAUSE card when you collected 2 Million dollars. :l
If money was stolen or used for other games, I would like to know the truth.
I would like to continue being optimist but I can only be realistic: this game is not happening EVER. Sad to see kickstarter can just "raise its shoulders" and say: this place is only a catalogue, you dummy for pledging on a project that is as solid as what dreams are made of.
in a more comical observation. i'm glad i got the game on usb, if it ever comes out.
since most laptops don't have cd drives anymore.
I'd like to break up the stream of complaints and negativity to say as a backer of this project I still have confidence in the team behind it and the quality of the project. I understand that in this world the pact we made was no guarantee of content but a gesture of trust and support and those are my exact feelings in this situation. My sincerest sympathies for Andrew and everyone who's worked on the game over whatever hardships might have occurred through these four years and best wishes to all of them. When this game comes out, I'm gonna play the heck out of it and love every second. Not because I waited four years and donated what was once a hefty sum. But because I'm a huge fan of these peoples' work and will love the content they were able to produce because of us. That is all. Have a nice day.
I'm going to approach this objectively as a gamer, instead of a long time fan, as I make this comment. Because putting this project to the same standards as any other kickstarter based game, there should have been far more backlash than there has been. Lackluster, incredibly spaced updates, a lack of effective communication with backers, controversy over funds which have never been formally acknowledged, switching from 3D models shown to 2D, a lack of actual GAMEPLAY footage...there have been numerous "hiccups" with this game over the period of what, 4 years now?! Other games faced criticism for pushing release dates back by months, but this is unacceptable. And to be frank, the only reason this giant, seemingly endless project has been relatively quiet from critics and bad publicity is the incredible patience and lax nature of its fan base, who have accepted time and time again that this game is changing and far from its original release time. The fans themselves have aged, moved on, and even forgotten about this game they backed during all the hype of its announcement, but that doesn't make this tottering progress any less reprehensible. You're lucky that media outlets and channels that looove kickstarter drama and fails have overlooked this. And really this is just becoming yet another example of how kickstarter projects are tenuous gambles of faith and hope in developers that aren't obligated to make good on any of their promises.
I was a young man when I backed this. I burned my Christmas money on it. Bummer.
Timehop showed me that I backed this 4 years ago today. Wow
Are you a child? At least own up to your slow progress and make an update.
Update or refund.
the more time that passes, the more i'm glad that i didn't pledge too much. :( i loved homestuck and it was a big part of my life, and in a way it's still dear to my heart. but this is kind of a huge burn - i can handle the fact that it's delayed, but to not give us any sort of update at all? come on guys...
I wasted too much money on this for a partner I am no longer seeing, I tried emailing them about an address change and nothing. I'm no longer interested in Homestuck but I paid a lot of money for this and if it goes to my old address when it ever comes out, and I lose out on it then I'm going to be hella pissed.
We're 7 months into 2016 and haven't gotten a single update this year. It's kind of a harrowing tale. Hussie dropped off the face of the earth, deleted almost every tweet on his Twitter account. Almost everyone he used to tweet at has protected their accounts. The site's official forums were dead for the climax of the comic (in April) and still have not returned. The Tumblr community as a whole has acknowledged that the era of Homestuck has come & gone. The subreddit is probably the last bastion of Homestuck fans and who knows how long that'll last. I get that Andrew wanted to get an early start on his next project, but instead it pretty much killed Homestuck & doomed Hiveswap. If there's anything to be learned here, it's probably best to "hold your horses".
I'm at the point where I don't really care about getting the game anymore, I just want updates man. I do understand that TOG embezzled funds from Andrew, and I can understand that there may be a non-disclosure agreement of some sort keeping him from coming out with it, but it does not excuse him or What Pumpkin from not keeping people in the know about the progress of the game. They haven't updated their Facebook, Twitter, Devblog or Official Site in over a year. I believe the last real update we got was on the MSPaintAdventures site when Homestuck was drawing to a close. It's really disgusting how poorly they are managing their communication. If they would just say something on at least a monthly basis then it would squelch my curiosity about the game's progress. Heck, even YandereDev can update us on his game twice a month, and he's doing most of the work himself with some help coming from volunteers.
All I'm saying is, while there may be hiccups, keeping everybody in the dark about it does not help in the slightest.
You people really are impatient, demanding refunds just because the game's taking longer than expected after the money was stolen. And while I get that quite a chunk of the backers aren't interested in Homestuck anymore, it's ridiculous to expect a refund because of that. The game is still coming, Andrew is working on multiple things right now after all and has to balance his time between this and other projects. It's also been nearly four years, you're not getting a refund that long after the project ended. I'm looking forward to the game when it comes out, even though I'm not as into Homestuck as I was when I backed it. I still have faith, and I can't wait to play the game!
undertale murdered homestuck, or at least looted its corpse
Is there any chance of a refund for this?
It's sad that it was this delayed... who's gonna even play it now when it finishes now that the fandom has drifted elsewhere? Also going to 2D after seeing those cute 3D models made me sad.
Whelp, I've resigned myself to the fact that this won't be coming out, especially with the accusations of the misappropriation of the funds. This is very much a lesson learned... that lesson being never back games by small inexperienced new developers, since this kind of thing happens time and time again. I would still like to be wrong, but I'm going to chalk this one up as a loss and move on =(