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Sad to keep coming back here.
So it was all vaporware in the end?
James Greb <<<<<< scamer
Reported. The only possibility :-(
Reported this campaign. It's a shame.
I've also reported it, though I'm not really expecting anything anymore now.
Same situation like The 90s Arcade Racer. The project is dead, the developer took the money and vanished.
Thank you for nothing!
Reported as well. This is unacceptable.
Reported. Man I did wait for this game. :(
Reported to Kickstarter. Thank Overmann!
And yet another project that just makes me want to never invest in any type of crowdfunding platforms... No news, so i'm guessing it's a bust...
For anyone that has a little less faith in this guy, you can report the project to Kickstarter at the bottom of the Campaign page.
I can't say for sure that'll do any good, but maybe Kickstarter will get some answers.
Can I just point out that this game looks like a BETA? I mean, just look at it. The graphics are amazing.
The Intro sequence/Title screen is COMPLETE:
What he calls "Pre-Alpha gameplay" looks like most other projects' Post-Beta gameplay:
Come on, James. If you're not dead, RELEASE THE ALPHA.
Heck, opensource it if there are legal issues. The community will fix it. :P
@Overman Thats fair comment. The feedback on this project has been terrible, but I have followed other projects on here, and indigogo with similar terrible levels of feedback, and delays. They have ultimately delivered.
My point is, though, that peoples interpretation of IGG and KS is that its a shop, and it simply isnt. Projects can and do fail. If the money was spent trying to make the project a success and it just couldnt meet its goals for whatever reasons, that is the risk you take. But yes, the project owner is responsible for communicating that information, i will grant you that.
Maybe I have too much money, but I pledged $37CAD for this project over 2 years ago now. I considered that money gone at the point of pledge, and at this point that money means nothing to me. If i get a game out of it, excellent. If I get a refund or something.. so be it. But if nothing happens... *shrug* .. its not like its my next mortgage payment.
Still waiting for an update. :(
@Adrian, Leaving your investors in the dark pretty much means he doesn't have any product to show.
According to Kickstarter Terms backers have the right to some sort of legal action against the developer that fails to deliver.
"If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:
They post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
They work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a time frame that’s communicated to backers;
They’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
They’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers;
And they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.
The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers."
While i would love to see this game made, and I still hold out hope that we get a surprise at some point, I think a lot of people on here (and by here i mean Kickstarter in general) don't quite understand that Kickstarter is *NOT* a "pay money receive product" shop.
Kickstarter essentially replaces, or supplements, the need for investors in a product. Investors aren't guaranteed a product. As an investor you are providing capital to enable the producer to create a product to cover expensive tooling, distribution, or development costs that the producer would not otherwise be able to afford. But this is a gamble on the investors part. You are gambling that the person you are investing in has the ability, and support to see the product through to completion.
This DOES NOT, however, preclude the ultimate failure of the project. As the dragons on "dragons den" will tell you, investing in a product is a tricky thing and failures are common. This is why traditional investment is so tricky to source. People are not willing to put up large sums on money to back seemingly low volume, high risk projects. This is where Kickstarter comes in.
People on Kickstarter are pledging relatively small amounts of money into a pool that would effectively replace a single large investor. The downside is that individually we have less say in the direction of the project than a traditional investor might, but the upside is there is considerably less capital at risk.
Its a balance. As a result if you get your rewards for your pledge as promised, then fantastic, but you should never back a Kickstarter project expecting a guaranteed output.
Bottom line is, even if this project never completes, or produces a game, you aren't getting your money back. That's the nature of the beast.
It would be a good surprise!
Oops, he said a release is nigh, not night.
Romain, thanks for the link. I notice in the replies on Intsagram, they mention they are working on a trailer and poster so 'a release is night'. That was August so not too long ago. Is it possible this is almost here?!
Can Kickstarter shed light on if he's even logged in since February 22nd? cause it looks like he hasn't onto Facebook or Twitter for ages, I'm just praying the worst hasn't happened
As said Tatcher : I want my money back ...
I'm pretty sure this project is dead. Waste of my $20. At least Mighty #9 got a game out of it in the end.
I ask last month some composer of the games if they had some news from the games, one said that he didn't had any news, the other said the same but send me an instagram link from a guy who's working on the trailer and the game : https://www.instagram.com/bloodychrome/ It's from the end of August. So maybe he's still working on the game.
So ummm...whats going on with this game? I pledged and delivery said May of 2016 with soundtrack and shirt and stuff but havent got anything. Its 09/30/17, whats goin on here
At the very least I'd expect an update saying that they're alive....
I don't know much about the law and stuff so I apologise if this is a silly question but if there was a gagging order, would that even prevent him from saying 'due to legal issues I'm unable to give an update currently'?
My thought was that he is working on the game still, but there is some kind of gag order that Neon Drive (or one of the other racing games games) put on him since their game was going to ship first. This is why he is not able to update us and left a very cryptic message. If he had said that another game was involved in him not being able to release/develop/talk about it, we would most certainly boycott it, leading to loss of business opportunities and revenue for the other party further prompting a lawsuit.
Those are just guesses but he can he around this by just open sourcing the game under a different name (but that could still prompt a lawsuit now that I think about it). He might just have to wait some time before he is allowed to speak and develop again.
He has done too much work on this project for it to be a scam.
Is the problem all the other retroneon racing games? any copyright or something like that?
I refuse to believe this guy scammed us. Dude. Just ONE UPDATE stating the facts and that's it. Just say that you can't develop the game and you can't return the money and it's okay. But PLEASE say something.
Hmmmmmmm... good question @Overmann?
Which youtube videos @João Gonçalves? Please (^-^)!!!
-> I found the youtube profil of Megacom Games, but the videos are from 2016, nothing for this year (-_-)...
@João Gonçalves, what Youtube videos are you talking about? I only see some from a year ago.
Dude, ignore the bad comments!
We all can see that you have been working hard, the youtube videos show it.
Developing is one thing managing client's expectations is another, and certainly managing a kickstart campaign yet another.
Having your baby turn into a nightmare because of all of the setbacks must be crushing.
I Hope this message reach you,
Stay strong man!
New updates, Please (^_^)!!!!!!!
Thank you for destryoing trust in this plattform. GG. WP.
Agree. I give up. It's a shame. And you said this was all about your childhood, the 80's, a personal dream Project etc... ?
We just all want an update to say either it's officially dead or something. I think you at least owe your backers that.
lol, this is long dead. I gave up long ago.
How are things coming along? Looked like a super cool project - and looked legit (i.e., very hard to 'fake' these kind of demos)... Any word on what is going on?
I hope you ain't dead man, I've noticed you ain't logged in ya twitter, Facebook or anything for ages, that's usually a sign of suicide, I would like anyone who knows James Greb or anyone close to his family to confirm he is actually still alive.
I am tired of waiting. There is no excuse acceptable for NOT GIVING UPDATES to the people with backed your project with hard earned money. Dude. I want my money back.
Man I hope you get this game done quick because this one may takeover http://www.dualshockers.com/neon-drive-coming-ps4-august-8th/
One more in the fail file. Damn.
I backed this, no game.. Just give us what you've done so far, sources and models and stuff, we'll finish it.
Assuming this is dead, I was looking forward to the game and especially the soundtrack. Checking it off for now.
bonjour comme vous pas de news pas de tee shirt ni game etc......un remboursement serait la bienvenue, est ce que kickstarter peut obliger un remboursement en cas de non livraison ? une jurisprudence existe ? merci dommage le projet etait bon.... decu comme beaucoup ca peut porter prejudice pour d autres projets sur kick si rien n est fait je pense .. !
For those who like me want a refund, I did a tweet, don't hesitate to comment it to ask for your money too, they will have to listen to all of us :
Would love a refund so I can use the money for actual projects.. not scams like this
What makes it so sad, is the non-communication. at least tell us, that the project is dead so we can check it off officially.