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It's not happening, boys.
He mentioned a lot of different artists about the soundtrack, did anybody try to contact them? Maybe they know something about the project...
At this point, I'd be happy to get the soundtrack for my pledge, tbh
@Martin Mengui his Facebook still there, I'm seeing but it doesn't matter cause he isn't responding to my messages, maybe he's blocked you, I dunno. But like I said, even if you find him he may not respond to your messages cause I've messaged him recently and he hasn't responded but it's kinda weird because during his process when he was making the game and coming out with constant kickstarter updates, he was ALWAYS responding to my messages, that's the reason why I thought the worst and why I'm confused to think why he's doing this. He really did sound passionate about this game, I guess I'm easily fooled.
@TEMPHUiBIS probably he read this and deleted his facebook, man. I can´t find him.
Anyway, I spoke with a layer. There is something called LEGAL SECRECY when you have to keep quiet about WHAT is to be quiet about. But that doesn´t justify his TOTAL silence with us, the people who gave him money. We have been conned. Ripped off. Afanados. He stole the money from us. And probably all the upgrades he showed (that looked A LOT better than the actual alpha he released) was probably just vaporware. The shitty thing about this is not the money, that of course MATTERS, but how he fucks with the whole idea of crowdfunding. How he shits in the concept. AND THE SADDEST part is how Kickstarter, as the platform, doesn´t do anything about it. A LOT of us reported this campaign. I did it multiple times. I contacted them via email. NO response.
As you can see, I am a superbacker. Firs time this happened to me so I am really upset with the whole thing.
@Martin Mengui Hey sorry for late reply, I didn't see this, well it's just I saw his personal Facebook and he changed his cover photo not too long ago and since the comment I posted earlier, he's now changed his profile picture. So I know he's definitely alive, there's only 2 conclusions I can draw with this project.
1) He is in legal trouble and he's been ordered not to speak about it for a selected time (I heard some legal troubles can sort of do that)
2) He has simply forgot about this project :(
It's a shame to see this project go, cause everyone was really hyped for this game, I loved the style and (I know what I'm gonna say next is bias) but when he messaged me and told me my music track is going into the game and put it on here (Update #7) and I saw myself on the Steam page, it made me really happy to be part of a great project like this. Now it feels like I got hyped for nothing :(
Still waiting :(
Hey @TEMPHUiBIS how do you know that he is alive? I mean, I never doubt it. But from where did you learn about his current status?
Click on the campaign tab, scroll to the bottom of the page, and click the "Report this project to Kickstarter" button.
How do you report a project?
Dear James, fuck you, I want my money back
It looks like James Greb took the 52.114 CA$ from 1.960 supporters and used them to have a nice time. Well done!
Is this project still alive?
I was really hoping this project wouldn't die, I even thought at one point that the main person involved was dead or something. But I recently found out he's still alive. It just seems he's given up on this project :(
What was the meaning of the last update? What was the creator talking abut with lawyers?
If I should have read THIS paragraph in his Bio:
"Some of the notable clients he has worked for include Warner Bros., Sony Pictures, and Electronic Arts."
I wouldn't put a DIME on this project. SONY PICTURES? WTF!
Projects like this are why I don't back games on Kickstarter anymore.
If you can't finnish it, just release the source so that others can do that. It would make a lot of people happy (or at least less angry)...
Sad to keep coming back here.
So it was all vaporware in the end?
James Greb <<<<<< scamer
Reported. The only possibility :-(
Reported this campaign. It's a shame.
I've also reported it, though I'm not really expecting anything anymore now.
Same situation like The 90s Arcade Racer. The project is dead, the developer took the money and vanished.
Thank you for nothing!
Reported as well. This is unacceptable.
Reported. Man I did wait for this game. :(
Reported to Kickstarter. Thank Overmann!
And yet another project that just makes me want to never invest in any type of crowdfunding platforms... No news, so i'm guessing it's a bust...
For anyone that has a little less faith in this guy, you can report the project to Kickstarter at the bottom of the Campaign page.
I can't say for sure that'll do any good, but maybe Kickstarter will get some answers.
Can I just point out that this game looks like a BETA? I mean, just look at it. The graphics are amazing.
The Intro sequence/Title screen is COMPLETE:
What he calls "Pre-Alpha gameplay" looks like most other projects' Post-Beta gameplay:
Come on, James. If you're not dead, RELEASE THE ALPHA.
Heck, opensource it if there are legal issues. The community will fix it. :P
@Overman Thats fair comment. The feedback on this project has been terrible, but I have followed other projects on here, and indigogo with similar terrible levels of feedback, and delays. They have ultimately delivered.
My point is, though, that peoples interpretation of IGG and KS is that its a shop, and it simply isnt. Projects can and do fail. If the money was spent trying to make the project a success and it just couldnt meet its goals for whatever reasons, that is the risk you take. But yes, the project owner is responsible for communicating that information, i will grant you that.
Maybe I have too much money, but I pledged $37CAD for this project over 2 years ago now. I considered that money gone at the point of pledge, and at this point that money means nothing to me. If i get a game out of it, excellent. If I get a refund or something.. so be it. But if nothing happens... *shrug* .. its not like its my next mortgage payment.
Still waiting for an update. :(
@Adrian, Leaving your investors in the dark pretty much means he doesn't have any product to show.
According to Kickstarter Terms backers have the right to some sort of legal action against the developer that fails to deliver.
"If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:
They post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
They work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a time frame that’s communicated to backers;
They’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
They’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers;
And they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.
The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers."
While i would love to see this game made, and I still hold out hope that we get a surprise at some point, I think a lot of people on here (and by here i mean Kickstarter in general) don't quite understand that Kickstarter is *NOT* a "pay money receive product" shop.
Kickstarter essentially replaces, or supplements, the need for investors in a product. Investors aren't guaranteed a product. As an investor you are providing capital to enable the producer to create a product to cover expensive tooling, distribution, or development costs that the producer would not otherwise be able to afford. But this is a gamble on the investors part. You are gambling that the person you are investing in has the ability, and support to see the product through to completion.
This DOES NOT, however, preclude the ultimate failure of the project. As the dragons on "dragons den" will tell you, investing in a product is a tricky thing and failures are common. This is why traditional investment is so tricky to source. People are not willing to put up large sums on money to back seemingly low volume, high risk projects. This is where Kickstarter comes in.
People on Kickstarter are pledging relatively small amounts of money into a pool that would effectively replace a single large investor. The downside is that individually we have less say in the direction of the project than a traditional investor might, but the upside is there is considerably less capital at risk.
Its a balance. As a result if you get your rewards for your pledge as promised, then fantastic, but you should never back a Kickstarter project expecting a guaranteed output.
Bottom line is, even if this project never completes, or produces a game, you aren't getting your money back. That's the nature of the beast.
It would be a good surprise!
Oops, he said a release is nigh, not night.
Romain, thanks for the link. I notice in the replies on Intsagram, they mention they are working on a trailer and poster so 'a release is night'. That was August so not too long ago. Is it possible this is almost here?!
Can Kickstarter shed light on if he's even logged in since February 22nd? cause it looks like he hasn't onto Facebook or Twitter for ages, I'm just praying the worst hasn't happened
As said Tatcher : I want my money back ...
I'm pretty sure this project is dead. Waste of my $20. At least Mighty #9 got a game out of it in the end.
I ask last month some composer of the games if they had some news from the games, one said that he didn't had any news, the other said the same but send me an instagram link from a guy who's working on the trailer and the game : https://www.instagram.com/bloodychrome/ It's from the end of August. So maybe he's still working on the game.
So ummm...whats going on with this game? I pledged and delivery said May of 2016 with soundtrack and shirt and stuff but havent got anything. Its 09/30/17, whats goin on here
At the very least I'd expect an update saying that they're alive....
I don't know much about the law and stuff so I apologise if this is a silly question but if there was a gagging order, would that even prevent him from saying 'due to legal issues I'm unable to give an update currently'?
My thought was that he is working on the game still, but there is some kind of gag order that Neon Drive (or one of the other racing games games) put on him since their game was going to ship first. This is why he is not able to update us and left a very cryptic message. If he had said that another game was involved in him not being able to release/develop/talk about it, we would most certainly boycott it, leading to loss of business opportunities and revenue for the other party further prompting a lawsuit.
Those are just guesses but he can he around this by just open sourcing the game under a different name (but that could still prompt a lawsuit now that I think about it). He might just have to wait some time before he is allowed to speak and develop again.
He has done too much work on this project for it to be a scam.
Is the problem all the other retroneon racing games? any copyright or something like that?
I refuse to believe this guy scammed us. Dude. Just ONE UPDATE stating the facts and that's it. Just say that you can't develop the game and you can't return the money and it's okay. But PLEASE say something.