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Official DEVO documentary film needs your help to finish editing the film this year.

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    1. Creator William James Cuffe about 12 hours ago

      The SxSW 2015 Line-Up was announced earlier in the month: http://sxsw.com/film/screenings/2015-lineup

      As could be guessed, Are We Not Men? The Devo Documentary was not on the list. The reason I've been posting these links is a demonstration that there have been multiple opportunities to post updates to the project that would have kept us, the pledgers, informed. None of those opportunities were used.

      Now, I have probably been the most vocal person here when it comes to the level of feedback we have received. I understand that as creators you don't want negative press, and so Tony and crew have chosen to remain silent rather than post an update that essentially puts their plans on hold.

      This seems to be the main reason the project is late. They seem to have a very inflexible plan for release. They want the documentary to have as wide an audience as it can for maximum impact. This means making the circuit of film festivals. The problem with this approach is that the festivals only happen once a year, and not getting into them means waiting a whole other year before the established plan can be tried again. A whole other year with no updates.

      Maybe what Tony hinted at February 5th is the producers finally agreeing they can't meet the debut plan they have set for themselves and have restructured their release tactics. Maybe a cable network has shown interest in airing it? That would be a hopeful turn of events. While I found that heartening when Tony first posted a possible change in the near future, I am now forced resign myself that since February is now over (or will be in about five minutes as of writing this) and there is no new information, that the new plans have fallen through.

      I keep coming back to Devo's song "Enough Said" from New Traditionalists:

      None of you would help me when I baked my bread.
      Now all of you would help me eat it.
      I can see that you are very well fed.
      This indicates that you don't need it.

      We helped bake this bread. We're not even asking to be allowed to eat it. We don't even know if it's done yet. Bread eventually goes stale, and the longer we wait, the less likelihood there is that we'll see anything.

      Cutting through the mental grease and grime,
      William James Cuffe

    2. Creator John Fallon on February 21

      Why isn't Kickstarter getting involved? Is it too late to withdraw and get my money back? Worst Kickstarter ever!

    3. Creator Tony Pemberton on February 5

      Dear Backers,

      We hope to announce new updates about our film in the coming month of February, with some positive new twists. Please be patient, it will be worth it. The film is still happening.

      —Tony Pemberton & Roberta Friedman

    4. Creator David Cole on February 1

      Any update? Even if it's bad news, we deserve to know.

    5. Creator Don Arntz on January 30

      I don't recall if I posted this, but here is a message from the director dated July of last year and my response I sent today. Because this was so long ago, this makes me think there is some serious issues with the bad about the film. Of course, how would we know because they will not tell us anything:

      Dear Don,
      Currently are in negotiations with rights issues, and issues with the band. Hopefully to resolve this by end of the year for Sundance 2015.
      Send me your phone number if you would like to further discuss and I will have Roberta Friedman the producer call you.
      Best
      Tony
      Don Arntz

      Hi Tony,

      I appreciate the previous message, but why aren't you giving updates about the doc to the kickstarter supporters? Even when you do give updates, they are vague. I imagine we are adults and can be addressed as such. You really have to be honest with the supporters, even if it means that things are not going well with the project.

      Best,

      Don

    6. Creator Magnus Jacobsson on January 27

      some info please

    7. Creator Mike on January 23

      crickets

    8. Creator Ian Ashman on January 23

      I've started using this project within the company I work for as an example of how NOT to run a project. It has all the elements; unrealistic deadlines, promises made that could never be kept, non-existent communication and a general panicked air of incompetence.

    9. Creator Don Arntz on January 21

      I'm having the feeling there is a problem with the band? Otherwise why wouldn't he give us updates and why wouldn't he post more clips? I'm just guessing at this point because of the lack of communication. I know it is their baby, but what they have done to those who contributed to kickstarter is really not right. The producer and director asked the contributors for help, and in return there should be an openness and frankness about the doc.

    10. Creator John Freedman on January 19

      Hi all,
      This is my first comment here. Like many of you, I am distressed at both the lack of progress on this project (was fully funded in August, 2012) and the lack of communication from the producers (a flurry of optimistic emails last August).

      According to the Sundance link provided by William James Cuffe below, Are We Not Men was passed over by Sundance for this year.

      I funded this project because I love the band. I know nothing about the production team, and I wonder if Mr. Pemberton either has some severe illness or personal issue, or if this is some sort of a con game. Has anyone been able to get a recent response from Mr. Pemberton?

    11. Creator Scott Reed on January 13

      In August of 2012 the film was 95% complete and needed editing.
      January 2014 I got a tweet about a test audience.
      A year after the test audience and nothing?!
      July 2014 an update to "hang in there."
      Six months later "still hanging."

    12. Creator Magnus Jacobsson on January 9

      Hi Tony! How are you and what has happened since the last update? //Magnus

    13. Creator Michael Rowe on January 3

      Hoping that the new year brings us a release! Have had to go back and watch the The Conplete Truth About De-Evolution a few more times lately!

    14. Creator Janice Kuwahara on December 1

      Wow! I am so excited about this film!!! Just like everyone else, I can't wait for it's release!! Having said that, I sure hope all you other folks take a moment to understand and appreciate how incredibly difficult getting this film done has been. The filmmakers have invested so much time and money to getting the very best DEVO documentary possible to us. The untimely deaths of past member Alan Meyers and current member (at the time of his passing) Bob (Bob 2) Casale created more than a few production delays. Also try to appreciate that because DEVO has continued performing and working on other projects, I'm sure that has also added to the length of time needed to get this film completed. I for one would rather wait how ever long it takes than get a film done just to meet some deadline. My sincere appreciation to the director and producers of this project for their compete dedication to getting it right for all of us who love DEVO. THANK YOU! ❤️ Mad props to you guys!!

    15. Creator Rob S on November 24

      I sent a note to the Producers on October 9, 2014 with no response yet.

      Here it is:
      Hi Roberta:

      I hope the new year finds you well.

      I am looking for any information you may have on the Devo Documentary Film, and the Kickstarter rewards. The last concrete update was right around our conversation in February with a "hang in there" update in July.

      In the February update stated that the film was 15 minutes too long for distribution and you expected the film's completion in August 2014. Where does the film stand now and what is your expected completion date?
      2) You state above that your goal is Sundance 2015. Did you submit the film to Sundance for their consideration?
      3) You state above that your goal is SXSW 2015. Are you still on track to submit the film for consideration? I know the deadline is coming up soon.
      4) You state above that you will be sending T-Shirts and other non-movie rewards in advance of the film's completion? If so, is there a scheduled date for the posters, T-shirts and Limited Edition T-shirts?

      Thanks in advance,
      Me

    16. Creator Ian Ashman on November 23

      Is this project dead? Three months no action.

    17. Creator William James Cuffe on November 19

      Sundance 2015 Early Deadline Aug 11
      Sundance 2015 Official Deadline Aug 29
      Sundance 2015 Late Deadline Sep 29

      SXSW 2015 Early Deadline Oct 2
      SXSW 2015 Official Deadline Oct 30
      SXSW 2015 Late Deadline Nov 13

      Sundance 2015 Notification of Acceptance: 1st week of Dec

      SXSW 2015 Notification of Acceptance: Mid-to-late Jan, no later than Feb 13

    18. Creator Tony Pemberton on August 28, 2014

      Our backer Don Arntz suggested uploading another clip from our film — we thought that was a good idea, so here's a segment about the movie, "Human Highway."

      http://vimeo.com/devofilm/humanhighway

    19. Creator Chia Roscuro on August 15, 2014

      You're funny, William James Cuffe! I'll see you back here next year for our 3rd anniversary--and many more to come I'm sure.

    20. Creator Don Arntz on August 14, 2014

      Maybe you could show us another actual clip or cut footage from the documentary?

    21. Creator William James Cuffe on August 8, 2014

      Happy Second Anniversary, Everyone!

    22. Creator Brian Carpenter on July 25, 2014

      I mean garvy j...

    23. Creator Brian Carpenter on July 25, 2014

      Are you going to interview the new member (Josh)?

    24. Creator Dennis Biron on July 11, 2014

      Tony ... this fucking great ... I can't wait to see the final film... thumbs up..

    25. Creator Glenn on July 10, 2014

      I agree take your time. Devo's collaboration is huge in this documentary. Rest in Peace Bob 2.

    26. Creator Glenn Copeland on July 9, 2014

      back in December on update #9, I said:
      ""too long" is not something I associate with a documentary about one of the best bands ever.
      Take your time, get it right.
      Fry up some happy spuds."

      I stand by this statement.

    27. Creator Scott Reed on July 9, 2014

      The original Kickstarter said it was 95% shot and mostly needed to be edited. I am disappointed it is not out, but the producers seem to have missed a prime time to distribute during two tours and Mark getting publicity with the Lego Movie. I was excited when there seemed to be a test audience, but now it seems like it has lost all momentum. I bought one of the packages with the considerable extras, and should have at least received the Booji Boy shirt by now.

    28. Creator Stuart Culpepper on July 9, 2014

      No worries. Make the best film.

    29. Creator Harry Miktarian on July 8, 2014

      Personally, I say take your time and do it right! I donated because I wanted to see it made and liked the makers vision. I am in no hurry. Seeing the little bit that has been shown makes me believe it is still going forward, just slowly...and not dropped. Things happen, we all know the risk of kickstarter, and anybody that has attempted to produce something (film or product) knows that there are always time sapping traps and hurdles along the way. That said, lack of communication is the worst thing a maker can do, people are infinitely more patient and willing to abide change and delay than when there is communication even if it is not news the maker wants to, or is embarrassed to deliver.

    30. Creator Tony Pemberton on July 8, 2014

      Video Tribute to Bob Casale & Alan Myers:

      Dear Kickstarter folks:

      We understand some of you are eager to see our film — we feel the same way, and are working hard to make it happen. We consider you all to be a huge part of our team, and appreciate your support and patience for the project. Independent filmmaking is a slow process, and the director and I are constantly being reminded of this as we move forward (i.e. finding further funding, cutting-down the film from almost 3 hours to a distributable length, and getting "guest" editors to work with us).

      The unexpected deaths of both Alan Myers and Bob Casale have further slowed progress, as has the recent concert tour. We'd like to create a tribute to Alan and Bob. Should there be a coda? Should we dedicate the film to them? We're open to your suggestions.

      Thanks again for hanging in there with us — you won't be sorry you waited! We’d prefer not to have delays, of course, but the good news is: the extra time has allowed us to improve and expand the film’s content. There are some gems you will love to see!

      Here is a special video clip offered to our backers:

      https://vimeo.com/89335580

      Stay tuned as we release more pieces and extras. Bob Casale and Alan Myers will truly be missed and we were fortunate enough to get to know them in the film.

      To help Bob Casale's family with expenses related to his death, please check-out this link:

      http://gofundme.com/Bob-Casale-Donations

      Best,

      —Roberta & Tony

      EMAIL:

      Roberta@DEVOfilm.com

      Tony@DEVOfilm.com

    31. Creator Dan Doyle on July 5, 2014

      Orchestrate for the film to come out in the next year..........
      This is gone way beyond tiring now. And when another year passes and we are all sat here, a year older and still without anything to show for our hard earned wondering what the hell has happened.
      As much as it pains me, I want out now. I want my pledge money returned as there are plenty of things that deserve support that will actually respect the people who funded them in the first place.
      Saying that, I know I'll never see my money back. These people don't have the style or class to answer or respond to anyone's concerns.

    32. Creator Don Arntz on June 20, 2014

      I emailed both the director and producer about a refund, no response from either. I contacted Devo's contact and he stated he doesn't know much of anything about the project.

    33. Creator Magnus Jacobsson on June 1, 2014

      Hi! I would like to have an update from Roberta Friedman, the producer of 'Are We Not Men?' Regards Magnus

    34. Creator Don Arntz on May 8, 2014

      Due to lack of transparency, updates and what appears to be a reneging on a promise of a digital copy, I respectfully request a refund of my (modest) contribution.

    35. Creator Dan Doyle on April 18, 2014

      I applaud the call for transparency on this. Vague infrequent posts that neither help the people that funded this know whether or when they will receive what they've paid for is now beyond ridiculous. Hoping that people get to see it at a film festival is an insult to everyone who has patiently sat back expecting to finally hear some concrete news.
      If it hadn't been for everyone's love for Devo people would have been demanding refunds ages ago. Can't imagine anyone being in a massive hurry to back your next project whoever it might be anytime soon.
      Just let us know what is happening, when you anticipate the good people that have backed you to get what they have actually funded rewards delivered and let's all move on from this rather embarrassing episode.

    36. Creator Don Arntz on March 24, 2014

      I think the implication is getting it to the festivals is more important than delivering our digital copy. There really should be more transparency for the people who funded this.

    37. Creator Scott McMillin on March 17, 2014

      Could we get some clarification as to when backers will be getting digital copies? As Don Arntz said below I assume we'll be getting it when the film is finished, but your last update seemed to imply that we might not get it until after SXSW 2015:

      "We want all of our generous donors to get to see the film - to go to the festivals where it will be playing - to basically get what you paid for! At this point, our goal is SUNDANCE and SXSW in 2015."

      I paid for a digital copy, not a ticket to see it at a film festival. While I applaud your effort to get the film into festivals, I think I speak for my fellow backers when I gently remind you who actually financed the film. Getting it to us, at least in digital form, should be a top priority.

    38. Creator Don Arntz on February 27, 2014

      That is great you can get it into festivals, but you'll still be giving us a digital download FIRST when it is completed in August.... right?

    39. Creator Dan Doyle on February 18, 2014

      All bitching and complaining aside about delays and lack of information about this whole project, maybe it would be a fitting tribute to get this finally finished and out there on the sad news of Bob's passing.

    40. Creator Scott Reed on January 18, 2014

      Just got a tweet from someone in a focus group watching the movie. Seems to be close.

    41. Creator William James Cuffe on December 10, 2013

      Well, submission to Sundance 2014 is already closed, and since they are still editing the film (as just revealed in Update #9), the delay has not been because they want to get it in the festival.

    42. Creator Chia Roscuro on November 12, 2013

      Has the doc been chosen for Sundance 2014?

    43. Creator craig stanich on October 30, 2013

      Tony, what is the schedule for delivering the rewards?

    44. Creator William James Cuffe on October 18, 2013

      You realize it has taken a month and a half for you to acknowledge you were not going to meet your release deadline? Isn't the point of having a producer to ensure deadlines get met? And you tell us by stating it won't be another two and a half months for the first chance of it being released? With no explanation why it's taking so long, despite Josh Freese's tweet on August 20th that he's seen the rough cut? And perhaps the most insulting, you don't even apologize for missing your deadline...?

      There is plenty you could update us on: What rights are you waiting on? What still needs to be done with the rough cut to make it release worthy? Do you have the DVD authoring set up yet? Are the t-shirts made? Have they been delivered? How about the signed ones? How about the posters? Cover art? Certificates of authenticity? The Steve Keene painting? Not to mention you could be giving us glimpses into the making of the project...

      Don't spam us with links to your social media sites. They don't have any activity that hasn't already been mentioned, and never actually show that progress on the film has been made.

      Don't say "We'll post an update when we have an update". That tells me you aren't working on this project. There's been more evidence that "Buddha's Little Finger" has been made than this film.

      There is no excuse for this. You have nearly three times what you asked for. Produce something.

    45. Creator Tony Pemberton on October 17, 2013

      Looks like it will be 2014.

    46. Creator Magnus Jacobsson on October 11, 2013

      Hello Tony! I have pledged $500, can you please give me an update about the progress of the project and a "date" for the estimated delivery? (2013 or 2014?) Regards Magnus

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