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Saurian is a video game project focused on living as a dinosaur in a dynamic open world through intense, survival-based gameplay.
Saurian is a video game project focused on living as a dinosaur in a dynamic open world through intense, survival-based gameplay.
Saurian is a video game project focused on living as a dinosaur in a dynamic open world through intense, survival-based gameplay.
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New Playable Dinosaur Candidates!

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ATTENTION EVERYONE! VOTING HAS NOT STARTED. THIS POST IS A CHANCE FOR EVERYONE TO FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH THEIR OPTIONS AHEAD OF THE ACTUAL BALLOT

And now, without further ado, Ladies and Gentlesaurs, backers of all ages, the candidates are finally ready to present their platforms for playability. All Kickstarter backers will have the opportunity to vote for one Omnivore and one Herbivore:

Omnivores

Anzu

Anzu is the jack of all trades in the Hell Creek ecosystem. As an omnivore, Anzu is able to take advantage of both high quality vegetation and small prey items, particularly the eggs and hatchlings of other dinosaurs. Males are larger and much flashier than females, resulting in both sexes occupying a slightly different niche from one another. While not the fastest dinosaur in Hell Creek, Anzu’s first choice in dealing with threats is still to run. Perhaps Anzu’s most unique skill is its ability to mimic the calls of other dinosaurs in the ecosystem, a handy tool for both attracting prey and bluffing potential threats.

Ornithomimid

Playing as the ornithomimid is all about being one with the flock. While the ornithomimid is one of the fastest animal in Hell Creek, there’s not a lot you can do to defend yourself against a marauding Dakotaraptor or Tyrannosaurus. There’s safety in numbers, so finding other ornithomimids is the best way to keep one step ahead of the predators. In large enough groups, you can even turn the tables on some of your smaller adversaries. Primarily an herbivore, the ornithomimid will not turn its beak up at small animals or eggs.

Herbivores

Anatosaurus

Anatosaurus’ entire life revolves around the herd and your place in it. The healthier your herd is, the healthier you as an individual are. As a young animal you are extremely vulnerable, your survival depends on how well you can utilize the rest of the herd for protection from hungry predators looking for an easy meal. As you grow larger, your safety becomes a matter of your social connections: the more friends you make within the herd through social interaction, resource sharing and alerts to potential threats, the more allies you have when you are under attack.

Ankylosaurus

The beefcake of Hell Creek, Ankylosaurus lives a largely solitary life. Ankylosaurus is a very territorial animal, and tolerates other members of its species only during breeding season. While eating is a full time job, Ankylosaurus gains significant benefits from eating specific plants, and therefore must range widely and defend choice plots of foliage, not only from each other, but from other herbivores as well. While adults are rarely bothered by predators other than Tyrannosaurus, young ankylosaurs are vulnerable to many Hell Creek predators due to their still forming armor, and must either hide from predators or seek shelter in the company of more intimidating targets.

Denversaurus

Denversaurus relies on partnership to survive, forming strong bonds with other individuals, even when separated. Relatively non-vocal when alone, Denversaurus becomes very noisy and communicative when together with other individuals. Unlike its relative Ankylosaurus, Denversaurus tends to be very high strung due to its smaller size and less formidable weaponry, and is far more likely to react aggressively to any perceived threat. Both parents provide extended parental care to scutelings, which lack armor when first hatched.


HOW DO I VOTE?!

Hold on to your butts, voting HASN'T started yet. We're currently in the process of setting up our Backerkit account to handle reward fulfillment for Kickstarter backers, and give those of you who might have missed out the first time around a chance to pick up some rewards. Best of all? Backerkit gives us the ability to accept Paypal payments from new backers. Keep an eye on your inbox, we'll be sending out surveys to Kickstarter backers some time in the next week. Until then, the race is on to select our two new playables! 

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      Wyatt on

      @Jody Tippett
      I would vote for ankylosaurus, but it's so.. so.. slow

      Anzu and Anatosaurus for me!

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      Jody Tippett on

      If I remember correctly the ankylosaurus has to eat certain types of vegetation to survive. Not just one type, so that'll make ankylosaurus much harder to play because you don't just eat anything you have to remember where certain plants grow, what they look like, ect. Which doubled with ankylosaur's solitary life style would make it one tough dinosaur.

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      Ceratosaurus on

      i really want ankylosaurus but i want denversaurus more but ima say so far i want denversaurus and anatosaurus becaused i really want a hadrosaur

    4. Maddy Johnson on

      Anzu and Anatosaurus!

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      carson mccarty on

      Ankylosaurus and Anzu

    6. JJ Giesey on

      @Ángel Povedano no dinosaur had the ability to roar, because all modern day dinosaurs, aves, don't and can't roar because of their vocal cords.

    7. Jim B on

      Anzu and Ankylosaurus would be my picks!

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      Wyatt on

      @ThatPokeman I understand your point about the anzu, and all the realism stuff. I think of the mimicking this way. Anzu is totally different from let's say a tyrannosaurus. The sound it makes shouldn't be completely full proof it should have a little bit of a different sounding mimic. This means that people in multiplayer sometimes recognize the calls. Making it less frusterating it also means that the anzu will really have to struggle to make the right call in the right way. It shouldn't just be pressing a button. I think that well ornithomimus is very cool. I think if anato wins with ornithomimus we just have 2 herd animals, but if we had lets say anato and anzu they offer more variety and different playsyles. Like I said mimicking should just be pushing a button. It should be harder..So I'm going to vote for anato and anzu

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      ThatPokeman on

      Although I really like both the Ornithomimid and Anzu as playable contenders, I’ve decided to switch to the unnamed ornithomimid to playable status instead of Anzu for a few reasons.
      First Major reason I support the ornithomimid is the fact that of the two animals (the ornithomimid and anzu), the ornithomimid would have a more reliable/effective/consistent playstyle in game.
      The Ornithomimid is larger than even the Male Anzu (it’s competitor for playable status), and actually is larger than Dakotaraptor (it’s primary enemy). Also from the description on the Kickstarter page:
      *Playing as the ornithomimid is all about being one with the flock. While the ornithomimid is one of the fastest animal in Hell Creek, there’s not a lot you can do to defend yourself against a marauding Dakotaraptor or Tyrannosaurus. There’s safety in numbers, so finding other ornithomimids is the best way to keep one step ahead of the predators. In large enough groups, you can even turn the tables on some of your smaller adversaries. Primarily an herbivore, the ornithomimid will not turn its beak up at small animals or eggs.*
      With this in mind, the Ornithimimid seems like it would be quite an interesting pick. As stated from the developers themselves, the ornithomimid is one of the fastest animals from Hell Creek, and would likely be able to avoid the majority of possible predators alone based upon that information.
      Going even further, the developers state that the ornithomimid would also live in flocks (a trait derived from many living rattites and possible fossil evidence). A flock of ornithomimids would be quite challenging to engage against, as it is quite likely an ornithomimid of this size could deliver a devastating kick to smaller threats, such as native crocodilians and Dakotaraptor, which would likely be much more dangerous than the more solitary, smaller, less quick Anzu.
      I quite often see praise of Anatosaurus for group mechanics and untouchability in numbers, but whenever I see it stated for the ornithomimid, it seems to be doubted in comparison to Anzu. I personally believe that group mechanics for Ornithomimid flocks would be similarly enjoyable, and possibly also similarly untouchable to many predators, but for different reasons.
      In contrast, Anzu has a quite different style of play:
      *Anzu is the jack of all trades in the Hell Creek ecosystem. As an omnivore, Anzu is able to take advantage of both high quality vegetation and small prey items, particularly the eggs and hatchlings of other dinosaurs. Males are larger and much flashier than females, resulting in both sexes occupying a slightly different niche from one another. While not the fastest dinosaur in Hell Creek, Anzu’s first choice in dealing with threats is still to run. Perhaps Anzu’s most unique skill is its ability to mimic the calls of other dinosaurs in the ecosystem, a handy tool for both attracting prey and bluffing potential threats.*
      Anzu’s style of play is based upon deception rather than physical capabilities. While I feel like this has the potential to be a **Fantastic Mechanic**, I feel like the issue that results from this feature becomes the issue of confusing gameplay for the Anzu and other animals.
      If you are an Anzu, and you choose to use mimicry of a Tyrannosaur/Dakotaraptor to make a roaring sound to scare off larger herbivores, what if your roar accidentally attracts a Tyrannosaur/Dakotaraptor into line-of-sight? You would be in big trouble, and would have great difficulty escaping the situation.
      Let’s say you are a Pachycephalosaurus and you hear a tyrannosaur roar nearby. You have two options: Run away and assume it’s a tyrannosaurus, or reach line of sight to make sure that it *is* a tyrannosaurus and not an Anzu. You have a likely 50% of a seriously dangerous encounter depending on the choice you make, so naturally most animals would choose to acknowledge the sounds.
      Sounds like it would be fun for the Anzu, but it would be stressful for any other player present in multiplayer. For some larger animals, it might even result in you questioning whether you treat the call as a serious threat or not, weighing the risk and reward of it actually being an Anzu. This possibly is nullified if said tyrannosaurus (or other predators) can stalk prey without making any loud noises. If you heard a Tyrannosaur sound but couldn’t see it in line of sight, it might be safer to assume the Tyrannosaur isn’t there, or if it is, it is not in the mood for hunting. This would result in Anzu’s mimicry being less useful.
      With that being said, there’s the possibility that Anzu mimicry becomes **completely situational** and may not be effective in some environments. Being out in the open and making a Tyrannosaur call in front of a group of anatosaurus would probably not have any effect, if not aggression towards you. You would have to wait for the right circumstance/environment to use this ability, which would mean you would otherwise have mostly lesser abilities in comparison to the ornithomimid.
      The Kickstarter page doesn’t imply in any direction whether anzu was Solitary, or in pairs. This would be a large issue for the female anzu, as not many players would choose to play as a female if forced to be alone as a solitary animal. If in small groups or pairs, the female would have a much higher chance of survival than if alone.
      Even the concept of the male in female exploring a different niche is a debatable benefit, as juvenile males would likely share a similar role as adult females. Juvenile ornithomimids would share a most-likely similar role to adults, but more hiding involved and different prey/diets.
      But It’s important to note that the animals/plants present at Hell Creek will not change based upon who wins the playable survey. Both of these animals are Omnivores, but their sources of nutrition are likely different. Despite this, due to their relatively small size, the food sources for baby and adult individuals do not vary as much as they would in an animal such as Tyrannosaurus.
      Onto my second point: The Goal of saurian is for scientific realism, and for this purpose, the ornithomimid would be much better represented.
      It’s important to understand that saurian’s primary goal is scientific accuracy, and to that purpose it is much more likely that the ornithomimid would be more accurately depicted than anzu.
      From what I’m aware of, due to the similarities between ornithomimids and flightless birds, speculation upon the behaviors of ornithomimids is much more grounded, and flocking is quite likely based upon fossils of sinornithomimus, as well as similar flocking behaviors in living ratites.
      I do not disagree with saurian interpretations of female/male anzu exhibiting severe sexual dimorphism, as this is quite possibly an accurate feature. But it’s important to understand that anzu’s ability for mimicry is highly speculative, despite it being a feature of many modern birds.
      For gameplay, this feature would quite possibly be very enjoyable, but as an educational game, it’s more debatable whether this feature should be exhibited, and how.
      Assuming Anzu gets added with this feature (with or without playability), Anzu would have to hear the sounds to mimic before it mimics them, as a sort of learning curve for the animal.
      With the Ornithomimid, it’s flocking behavior, fast movements, and powerful kicks are much less speculative, as ratites are less derived than songbirds on the avian family tree. The niche Anzu filled is hard to compare to that of a songbird or parrot, which are known for mimicry behaviors among living birds.
      If I’m correct (although I am not an expert in this and it’s quite possible I’m wrong), there’s quite a few more fossils of ornithomimids compared to caenagnathids in general. This means we have much more reliable/common resources to recreate this animal, in a similar vein to Anatosaurus.
      This pretty much sums up my opinions on this, and I’m more than aware that **the ornithomimid is at a significant disadvantage**, hopefully my arguments will help bring in more support*

    10. DeepForestCrafter on

      There is no other carnivore in Hell Creek. Acheroraptor is just to small.

    11. Juliana Philpott on

      I thought there was going to be another carnivore option?

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      Nikolai Raevsky on

      @Erik Bonnier
      You cannot vote for two omnivores.

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      Erik Bonnier on

      Anzu & Ornithomid

    14. Carly Sorge on

      OMG THAT ORNITHOMIMID BABY.

      I really want to play Anatotitan or the ornithomimid because playing with those herd dynamics sounds super duper interesting!!

    15. Ángel Povedano on

      Betwen the omnivores I think I'd stick with Anzy.
      It's the first time I heard about either of them but the hability to make different Dinosaur's roars sounds sick!

      It's the herbivores that has me torn.
      I like the individuality and strength of the Ankylosaurus, but holy crap does the Denversaurus look sweet!!

      So, yeah, know who I'm voting for omnivore, but choosing an herbivore is going to be hard.

    16. Carmelosaurus on

      ANZU & DENVERSAURUS pretty please with cherry a on top. �

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      Aaron on

      Anzu and Anatosaurus!!! Flashy omnivore and herd herbivore!!! Only other option is Anklo for herbivore.

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      cratorsnake on

      Denversaurus and Anzu...

      Yes, Denversaurus. Though it may seem unlikely, I'd still be alright with Ankylosaurus or Anatosaurus. :P

    19. NecroNuke9
      Superbacker
      on

      Ankylosaurus & Anzu

    20. Night1505
      Superbacker
      on

      @Robert Weber Jr - You are absolutely correct! Fair point, mate. :)

    21. David Mulgrew on

      Firmly on team Anky... I mean, if you've read @VictoriaArbour 's work, you'll know just how hard her friends can smack you around. I want to be on their good side!

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      Gadunka on

      @Wyatt Anzus will the the best dinosaur to play as. An Anzu is literally a child predator

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      Wyatt on

      I can already imagine how annoying anzus will be when not playing them.
      Think about it, you're a rex hatching starving. You hear the call of a baby anato, but it's actually a giant demon turkey ready to disembowel you!

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      Alyssa Hardy on

      well they all look really nice so I don't care witch gets to be in game I just love dinos so much so I cant wait to see

    25. Robert Weber Jr on

      @Night1505 I'm afraid I need to correct you on this. The Ornithomimid DOES have natural weapons and WILL be able to defend itself if cornered. Those powerfully muscled legs aren't JUST good for running away. They make for a decent weapon as well. Think of it- and Anzu- as giant cassowaries, ostriches or emus. They look defenseless- and indeed, in this ecosystem they are far from the most formidably equipped organism- but they really, really aren't.

      I do agree that using your brain is going to be key when playing it though, but I think environmental awareness is going to be a bigger consideration. I think anzu will be more challenging to play as, though, so it has my vote. Sorry Ornithomimid- you might be my childhood favorite, but the chicken parrot takes the cake. Mostly by pretending to be you and then stealing it.

      Keep in mind, ALL the playables and candidates are capable of defending themselves in multiple ways, even when backed into a corner and alone.

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      Nikolai Raevsky on

      @Joseph Zaruba
      Every playable offers opportunities for making tons of strategic decisions. With Anzu, you have to decide what food would be the easiest to eat, and when and what sounds you should mimic, based on what animal you are interacting with, or something of the sort. With the Ornithomimid, you need to decide which direction you should run, depending on the circumstances of whatever hunt you are attempting to avoid being killed as a result of. As Ankylosaurus, you need to decide when to eat, since there is risk of predators during the juvenile stages, and what plots of land to defend. I must admit that I do not have a strong idea of what sort of strategies that would be required for the survival of a Denversaurus, but the Hell Creek ecosystem was very dynamic, and none of these playables should base their survival exclusively on some sort of routine.

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      Joseph Zaruba on

      @Night1505
      If you want to make lots of strategic decisions, you should vote for Anato. Because as a young animal, you're virtually defenseless and the craving of basically every predator of hell creek. That should be challenging and rewarding gameplay for sure!

    28. Night1505
      Superbacker
      on

      Ornithomimid and Ankylosaurus from day 1.

      Yes, Anky is "popular". But I really want that weapon. Claws and teeth are fun and all, but dat tail tho!

      I also really think the orno will be fun. So it doesn't have natural weapons. So what? It's one of the fastest animals in the ecosystem, and possibly the fastest playable. Use of strategy and smarts will be imperative while playing orno... not just how good you are at biting and clawing.

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      Wyatt on

      @Joseph Zaruba
      I wouldnt complain if denver won either. Just thought I'd give you a suggestion
      :D

    30. Skysong on

      Ah hah, found the link to a more detailed version of the study. On how migration and latitude affects bird coloration.
      http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/282/1809/20150375

    31. Skysong on

      @Brian Choo and @Robert Weber Jr
      The study on migration linkage to bird color is here although I'd like to find a more detailed paper on how they came to that conclusion and how they conducted the study.
      http://phys.org/news/2015-05-migration-drab-female-birds.html

      Here's another one that studies size related to the timing of migration http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14635890

      I'd love to learn more about what could cause dimorphism and why some birds don't have the major differences between sexes that others do. @Brian Choo I'll have to look up those breeds for curiosity sake. I'm wondering if there are differences in dimorphism rates in birds that spend more time on the ground vs those that spend more time in the air or trees.

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      Joseph Zaruba on

      Yeah, i'm going for Anato. However, if Anky or Denver win, i'll have no complaints.

    33. Robert Weber Jr on

      Definitely vote for whichever dinosaur and gameplay you like best. That's kind of the whole point of this. ;)

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      Nikolai Raevsky on

      @Joseph Zaruba
      Just vote for the one, whose gameplay you value more. If you like being in a herd, then that's fine, but if you prefer to maintain territories, wack a Tyrannosaurus, and be very stealthy for your survival, then that's okay as well. I trust the developers to make each dinosaur interesting to play as, but prefer Ankylosaurus over the candidates, but if that is not what you want, then that's fine.

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      Wyatt on

      @Joseph Zaruba
      Do anato because the herbivores we have now don't really have a giant herd mechanic

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      Joseph Zaruba on

      Definitely Anzu for me! However, it's so hard to choose between Anato and Anky!!!!!

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      Ashley Yeardly on

      Ornithomimid and Ornithomimid
      I so torn between the ornith and the anzu ;_; both look amazing as do their skills <33 ahh, it just seems like such and interesting play style though

    38. Henry Scott on

      The two A's
      Anatosaurus
      Anzu
      I NEED THEM

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      Gadunka on

      There is actually a bird in africa that mimics Meekat danger sounds, it mimics the sound and hasthe Meerkats run into their holes so the bird can eat the insects the MeerKats dug up

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      Hunter1324 on

      @Matthew Ackerman

      Speculation, though considering a lot of birds had the abbility to mimic sounds it doesn't sound surprissing that some non avian Dinosaurs did too.

    41. Matthew Ackerman on

      Wait, how do we know Anzu could mimic calls of other dinosaurs and the males were much flashier?

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      Vladimir on

      Anzu and Denversaurus. Anyway)

    43. Ozraptor on

      @Skysong. I'd like to see that study too... note that birds-of-paradise, peafowl, pheasants and trogons (quetzals etc) all display extreme sexual dimorphism and do not undertake long-distance migration.

    44. Robert Weber Jr on

      Interesting. @Skysong, if you find that study, could you link it to me?

    45. Skysong on

      Interesting, I was reading about a study where color differences between males and females in birds appears to be linked to migration with species and even parts of a population that doesn't migrate much are much closer to having similar colors in male and females (tropical birds for instance).

      That got me quite curious if Anzu has some form of evidence in the fossil record that it migrated. I'm going to have to look more stuff up on them.

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      Jesse on

      So since they are arranging a backerkit does that mean we can possibly raise enough money to reach the last 2 stretch goals? Obviously they would be added much later in the games development but still that would be amazing.

    47. Julia Van Vyven on

      Me too DarkTiger1991! I wish they could add all of these, but I understand the reasons why they can't. ^^

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      DarkTiger1991 on

      Anzu for the omnivore and Anatosaurus for the herbivore for me. I would not be heart broken if Ankylosaurus won instead of Anato though.