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@Andy - any progress with Armorcast?
Actually, please stand by for an update that will list all the available products.
I am very sorry, once again to continue bringing delays and bad news. I just discussed things with Steve from Armorcast and apparently we need to work out a new agreement in order to get these next miniatures completed. We will be having a meeting very soon to figure out how to proceed.
In the meantime, I am very happy to offer original artwork and other Low Life products in exchange to anybody who is fed up with me and the constant delays (I don't blame you) and would like to accept those items instead. If this means you, please message me privately and we'll work something out. I have a lot of original Low Life art, that generally sells for $300-$500, and I would be happy to send some to anybody who would rather have that than wait for the rest of the minis. I also have a lot of other Low Life products I'd be happy to offer (the retail value of these other items would be significantly higher than what most of you paid for the minis in the first place, especially if you choose the original artwork).
I know you must be exhausted from my constant delays and excuses. I assure you I am doing my best to get these made and they most certainly will be made eventually. The universe (or, more likely, my incompetence) keeps conspiring to create delays and you have my sincerest apologies.
Again, please message me privately if you would like artwork or other products. I'd like to avoid comments here for a little bit just so this particular comment can remain at the top and visible to the most people. I will also post an update very soon. Thank you.
I have a great deal of sympathy for Andy because he took some bad advice from a guy who couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
Andy wanted to bring his awesome artwork to life in the form of miniatures and was let down by the people who should have made this possible.
That being said I think it's time to face up to some hard truths.
I've asked a number of times what's happening with some of the big models, especially Cornthulhu, Plorp in a Balloon and the Tenemental- which are going to be expensive to produce and ship.
After so much time I think it's time for Andy to start looking at plan B's. If there's no money to offer refunds then maybe artwork, other Low Life goods or multiples of miniatures already created.
At the current rate of progress we're looking at 5+ years to complete.
" If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:
they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form."
Can you please review this and let me know what your plans are to bring this project to a satisfactory conclusion.
Hello Friends! I am back and as requested (by Rob but I am sure everyone is interested in this info) here is the list of minis we have completed and ready to ship:
Bylunculus the Vigilant
The Guy with the Killin' Stick
The Mysterious One-Eyed Croach
Trozzgoxx the Lobe
Pandalope the Panderer
Greeshka (Female Snell)
Gronkle (Male Snell)
X'Rizz'Krubb (Short Funguy)
Tolzox'zz (The Flew)
Zzznz'hunz (The Flew)
Scarier Ass Mutha
Umber Cuke (Nipper)
Q'onn on the Cob (Short Coblin)
Plus we have several minis getting molds created and I have emailed the company to get a timeline of when they will be ready to cast.
Sorry, guys. I was out of the country and missed those last couple of comments. I will compile the list and post it as quickly as I can.
Andy, can you tell me how many of the 62 minis from the Croach with the Moach are at the "available to ship" level and, therefore, how many are still to be finished please.
Steve has been working on the Plorp Balloon. I haven't seen pictures yet, but when I talked with him last week he said he would be working on casting it this past weekend.
I'd still like to hear what's happening with some of the larger pieces, Cornthulhu, Plorp in a Balloon etc
Woho! Yeah, that's quite the hike. I contemplate doing that after the next batch depending on the time frame for everything after that and the size of the next batch. Thanks for the info!
Unfortunately, international shipping has gotten absurdly expensive. It would be $30.
Thanks! And for us living in the old world (Sweden to be more precise)?
Any News will be welcome...
I will certainly do that as soon as I have some stuff back from Armorcast. Currently it would be $8 to ship what is already done domestically.
To be honest, as much as I am excited about our new partnership with Armorcast I think we both had hoped things would be moving along more quickly by this point. I will talk with Steve tomorrow and see if he can give us a decent projection.
Once Armor cast are done with the next batch of figures could you perhaps post a list (or pedagogical picture) of what's done and not?
Also: if I want to get what's done shipped what would the extra shipping be?
Looking forward to seeing more stuff!
Happy Birthday Andy!
I wrote you and then saw the "be respectful and considerate" and decided to rewrite. Can you please tell us when you think they will finally be sent?
Let's all just eat our veggies and stay healthy.
I'm still excited about this project after all this time. It takes the time it takes. As always, let me know if you want to do shipping deals, I don't expect you to take that on and don't mind picking up the tab for it as stuff gets completed.
Any news on the Tenemental, it was one of my favorites of the project!
We are working our hardest to get as many minis cast as possible as quickly as possible while maintaining the quality. Several new sculpts are completed and are awaiting casting. However, the casting process is going more slowly than I had hoped because, in order to save money and assure everything gets made (I got a lot of incorrect advice early on about how much it would cost to get these things made but I'm still getting them made no matter what), I have had to use a different caster. It's a smaller operation so things take longer.
Any news on progress since the last update?
Steve at Armorcast has been working hard on getting the new ones casted. Hopefully I'll have pictures early next week. Thanks for the reminder.
Its been close to 2 months since the last update, any word as to where we are?
I understand your frustration and I assure you, even though it is taking a very long time, things are continually moving forward.
I've kind of given up on this now ... I backed for $199 in the first few days, and I've seen a T-shirt and 6 figures ... no sign or mention of my Werm in a Balloon made out of an inflated Plorp ... I've been holding out for the delivery since June 2013 ...
Quite disappointed really ... especially as I also backed for every other Low Life Minis since then :(
Ok thanks Andy, I look forward to it
Indeed. I will try to get that posted as an update today or tomorrow.
Andy. Could we get an end of year wrap up please? Can you let us know how many miniatures are yet to be started and if you anticipate everything being concluded in 2016?
More good news arme welcome :-)
I have to say the new sculpts look great. I'm glad that progress is being made and I'm more confident in the new sculptor that I've ever been in the previous one. Thanks Andy!
Pictures are taking longer than expected. I'll definitely have the update tomorrow. I also have a meeting this thursday that will hopefully bring some more good news.
Chad just sent me a bunch of new sculpts. Greg is taking pictures of them this morning and I will update today with an actual update (instead of a link) so you guys can see them. They look fantastic and I know you will be very pleased.
Please forgive the lateness of this response. I took a week off following Oddmall and Con on the Cob but I'm back now.
Can't see any pics...
Is anyone able to see the pics in the link below? They don't work for me.
Andy, how goes it with Great Cornthulhu, Mutant Land Fish, Plorp Balloon and the Karmasuturist?
The Plorp Balloon was nearly done well over a year ago wasn't it? Is Chad scultping the others?
Here is a link to several new pictures: http://muthaoithcreations.com/things-that-are-happening-around-here-a-pictorial-review/
Also, the last update was on September 21, with a bunch of pictures of new miniatures. I'm not sure what comments and failure you are referring to but I'm sorry I let you down.
I'll post an update today with lots of new pictures. Sorry for the lack of communication over the past month. It's been a pretty hectic time but there's a lot of good news.
October and no comments since August. I guess everyone gave up. Major fail....
Krystal is currently working with multiple spreadsheets to figure out all this jazz. If anybody's order will be completed with the minis we have now we will send it out very soon.
Any news on when the second half of the minis for the international backers of the Stench-Wrangling Smelf level will be sent? I known you said we can ship early by paying a few clans but I lack the funds right now =/
Thanks a bunch =)
Rob, thank you for bringing that up.
I sincerely appreciate everyone who is keeping the faith and I assure you you will get your rewards. This project is not dead, nor is it in danger of becoming such. It went through an extended rough patch because of production delays outside of my realm of power, and continues to take longer than expected, but I have every faith in Chad's ability to get them done. Because of the limited budget (miniatures are very expensive to make and Jason was giving me a very good price that Chad is not able to match) he is forced to, occasionally, take on other, higher-paying, jobs, but he has assured me he will get them done in a timely manner and he hasn't shown me any reason to doubt him.
Because of delays, postage increases, backers with credit cards that were denied, and shoddy information about how much it would actually take to make these guys, I am paying a large amount of the cost of this project out of my own pocket (the actual amount brought in was closer to $38,000 than the almost $53,000 the kickstarter shows). That's not a complaint, just some information for you. In order to be able to afford to do that I have to keep my business going. In order to keep my business going I have had to run several other kickstarters. I am happy to say that ALL of the other kickstarters (despite some delays) are either completely fulfilled or are fulfilling right now. The Deck on Oith kickstarter and the Alphabeast Soup kickstarter are even three or four months ahead of schedule, so that's something to be happy about.
This miniatures kickstarter continues to be a source of frustration (for me as well as you). We all expected it to be completed long ago. My professional reputation has suffered as has my personal dignity, but that's nothing compared to the incredible patience and support you guys have shown. Your concerns are not unfounded, but they are unnecessary. Chad will deliver. The foundry will deliver. I will the deliver. The post office will deliver. In that order.
Chad sent me a new picture of a sculpt he's currently working on. I'll post an update in a few minutes so you can see it too.
Thanks again. I love you all.
While I'm very impressed with Chad's work on Low Life so far, I'm disappointed to see that the project that he has taken time out to work on is a kickstarter that isn't even launched yet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jameystegmaier/treasure-chest-realistic-resource-tokens-for-board/posts/1314998
I considered myself one of the "silent minority" on this kickstarter, content to keep faith that you will deliver, despite the worrying number of other kickstarters that you have launched since this one funded. Can you persuade me that my growing concern that this project will ultimately end for me in failure is unfounded?
Cerealkiller, send it to firstname.lastname@example.org
Here's a quick update on new sculpts:
I just heard from Chad. He had to step away for a month to work on another project, but he'll be back to sculpting Low Life in August.
I'm sorry. I must have missed those somehow.
Yes, please just bring your character to the game. Please come by the Mutha Oith Creations booth beforehand (booth 2830) if you have any questions.
Thanks a lot!
wasn't sure where was the best place to contact you, but i sent in characters last week for the living low gencon campaign haven't heard a response. Since i will be leaving tomorrow for gencon should i just bring the character sheets or which would be the best way to proceed?
Oh, and please standby for new pics...
Most recently we have the finished minis for both coblins, the lichenthrope, the blor-porple, the hamster, Zubb Trooxle, and I think a couple of others. I can send those along whenever you want.
Chad has finished Glutenous Maximus, Smirt Happytree, and The Boss of Lunch. So those will be part of the next wave.