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He's active enough on twitter and tumblr but looks like he cant be bothered posting here even though he has been "reminded" that his last update was April and $59,000 pledged to him...
@Jonathon there was a post back in 2013 that talked *about* some of the programming, but there was no actual code screenshots or demonstrations, afik. So far the only assets Clairvoire has shared with us have been some design concepts, a little concept art, and a few sprites.
Have we ever actually seen any code etc? Or might this just be one of those post some art and lie that its a game cash grab projects. I wouldn't care how long it takes so long as I knew it was real at all.
Loved the idea and would still love the game, but I feel at this point its very very unlikely. Feel like we will see another Duke Nukem before we see this
Hey, can we get some kind of update? Maybe something with some kinda screenshots or video of some rough alpha stuff?
It's almost been three years since the project was funded, and we've never seen any sort of gameplay. To be honest I don't have any clue what the gameplay would look like.
I get that things didn't work out the way you planned, and i still say "take your time", but it's been four months since you communicated with us, and in three years you've never shown us anything beyond concept art and rough ideas.
The wait would be so much more tolerable if you kept us in the loop, and showed us something of actual substance.
Best wishes on your continued work!
If you don't even care about the game, then why are you here except to whine?
mostly I just wish he'd admit to himself and to all of us suckers that put up money that it really just aint ever gonna happen. Dribbling out a halfassed apology on twitter about how ashamed of himself he is does nothing for me. Just come here and at least stand up and say you botched the job and it's over.
From his twitter:
I made a lot of mistakes with the KS, setting a release date far too soon, and underestimating the cost, but I promise it's not vaporware
someone linked me to a really long 4chan thread about how I'm taking too long with sealark, and I'm just looking for a hole to crawl in...
I understand where they're coming from, I'm just ashamed that I disappointed them, and hope I can work hard enough to make amends eventually
anyway, there's not much I can do except keep working, so that's what I'll do. Turn arounds aren't going to turn themselves around
"The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers."
Once again the fine folks at Kickstarter will take legal/moral high road and point out that if anyone is going to hold the creator responsible it's the job of the backers. After Kickstarter has their 10% they could give a shit about us backers. Kickstarter rakes in millions of dollars a year with no obligation but to maximize their profit by minimizing their responsibility.
Face it folks unless your willing to pony up some additional money to try and bring legal action against Josh you may not have a whole lot of recourse.
" If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:
they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.
The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers. "
I dont think anyone has any expectation of this being completed, but perhaps the creator would have the decency to put it out of its misery?
Last login Apr 16 2015....doesn't look promising. Another KS scam?
Yeah sorry but I'm reporting this kickstarter for post-funding issues.
erm...... so no update at all huh?? ~(=.=")~
April 15th: "See you next month with PICTURES!!"
August 10th: .........crickets..........
After 2 years, I just want to know what my money went to. I was very excited about this game but it is so disheartening to be strung along for so long. Just post updates please. It is LITERALLY the least you could do for us. Keep at it and keep us updated. That is all we ask.
Any news? :(
I've lowered my standards and just wished there was an update here every 3-4 months... not even monthly anymore, just to see if this will ever be released in any shape or form. The tumblr page gives me December entries for anything tagged Sealark. I ended up not even backing Shenmue; I adhere to my own policy of being extremely skeptic of anything related to Kickstarter.
he's not dead, i guess, but this thing sure must be. I'm sorry I wasted my money.
Must have watched too many Southpark episodes lately but seeing an user named "Kenny" post "He's not dead" really made me laugh for some reason :)
But yeah, project is probably still progressing but really REALLY slowly. At this point I'm not expecting to see a game anymore. For sure not in 2015.
He's not dead.
Did you die? I don't mean in the sense of giving up on the project or whatever, but, like, whether or not you are actually, physically dead.
Please confirm that you are not dead.
If Shenmue didn't debut yesterday, I would have said this would have been my first and last Kickstarter.
Sorry, but I don't think it's possible to work three jobs and complete a game at the same time. If your cash is gone, and with so little complete 2 years later, I really think you need to accept that and tell your backers that. Atleast you should post a project plan and show what's done and what's going to be done when.
What you shouldn't do is to stress yourself to death, working 3 jobs on the side because your project failed. And then making promises you can't keep. Working creativly under preasure is really hard to do. I hope you are doing well, and that you find the right thing to do. I consider this project to be dead.
I wish you good luck in the future.
Thanks for the update! Still really looking forward to the game whenever it comes out, but don't worry about the timing, take care of yourself first :)
I just read the latest update and I'm disappointed. :( Nearly two years late and $59039 given in funding and still no further forward than the last update it seems. This was something i was looking forward to playing. Oh well Maybe I'll get to teach the kids how to play it in the future... Granted i don't actually have kids yet but you never know by the time we get it...
Ya know, despite the delays this is still a game I really look forward to. Try not to delay any more, but don't kill yourself working on this either. Good luck with life and all that, I'm sure everything will work out in the end.
call it complaining all ya want, but anything im invested in i like to know the status of. creator seems to have gone silent, I can live with a project that failed, wouldnt be the first one. Id just like to know how the game is or isnt coming along, a perfectly reasonable request from someone who's tossed money at it, I think.
I respect that this is a one person game, but one update every month isn't too much to ask, i think. Just to see the game is still alive...
Keep up the goog work!
I'm fine with waiting and staying positive, but at this point, every month without an update or any kind of communication is making it harder to still care about the game and trust that it'll ever come out.
I have to disagree with Kenny who said "Save the updates for when you have something to say." Sure, don't promise a weekly updates schedule where you're forced to write something up even if not much happened, but if you have nothing to say about the game's progress since the last update 3.5 months ago, it's a little troubling...
I'm with Kenny.
Forget about the complainers, just read the positive messages and keep up the good work! :)
Number of times a KS gaming project is in limbo +1. KS again does nothing about it. Because THEY CAN. LOL. Glad I'm off this drug.
I just want to remind clairvoire that for every person that complains, there's still over 3000 of us that don't. We supported this project, and are waiting patiently and respectfully. The vocal minority are NOT the majority. We believe in you, and are excited to play the game when it's done and not a second sooner.
Save the updates for when you have something to say.
Another day, another lengthy span (3+ months) of no updates on the core website of communication for backers.
This was my one and only Kickstarter I donated to. And last.
I think I'm prepared to accept that he's still working on it.
I think I'm prepared to accept that this project is already dead.
While I do agree with others that say it's important to take time and care in a game, indie games, especially games funded by those that play them, can live and die on the transparency and communication of their creator. A lack of regular updates, even if it's just a progress bar or a weekly, "Hi, here's what I've been up to!" regardless of how much has been accomplished, would go a long way towards instilling confidence and compassion in the people who helped fund it. Nobody is demanding special treatment, just communication, and I don't think it's unfair or unreasonable for us to be concerned when we're not getting that. I've been making a living review video games for nearly seven years, and I understand what a time consuming, challenging, exhausting process it is, especially for indie creators, but when periods of silence become the norm so far after the estimated completion date, it gets more than a little troubling.
I'm beginning to feel like this game is never going to happen :(
Can we get just a general Springtime update?
Hope this can get up on the The Greenlight
Don't feel stress and take the time you need to make something awesome. :)
Thanks for the recent update, clairvoire. Don't let the pressure get to you. If you keep the lines of communication open, I think everyone will remain understanding. Towards that end, a roadmap of all systems and assets and what % they are done would be nice, plus (at minimum) future monthly updates. Weekly would be better, even if you have to say "nothing happened this week due to contract work so I can have food to eat".
Keep at it! Also, your animations look great!
me: I'm probably not the only one to ask this, but would you care to shed some light on the sealark situation? Realistically, how much of the game is finished at the moment and why have you grown so quiet about the project?
claivoire: aaaa hello! I’m still workin’ on it, it’s just taking an embarrassingly long time. I’ve been having to take on freelance work on the side to pay the bills and there’s been a few life things going on that got in the way… but I’m chuggin’ along! It’s hard to say how much is done, but I’m working on sprites right now, and they’re taking a massive amount of time to animate still.
Sorry for being quiet! I’m just shy and get embarrassed easily when I’m not meeting expectations… I’m trying to fix that. Being way more mouthy is my new years resolution this year, along with FINISHING THIS FINALLY.
For what little it may be worth though, sealark is never in danger of not getting done. I’ll finished it eventually, I just hope it’s before folks stop caring about it aaaahgkg
ah man, was this project abandoned?
"December 2014 Please Don't Hurt Me! That gives me enough time to finish Sealark with ample time to polish everything as well as I'm able. If I do finish early and there's not much left needing polish, I'll then move it sooner! And I'll try to do just that! But in all likelihood, I think December is the most rational date to release by. "
Are we still getting it this month? The 18 months delay was annoying but understandable, but if it's not releasing this month, I think a new update and ETA is necessary.
take the money and run
Well, he doesn't even bother answering questions on tumblr anymore.
Happy holidays! I took a look at your Tumbler page and the art is, as always, awesome. I was wondering what is the status of the game portion of the project? Is it in a playable state and, if so, what does it it look like in action? I've got a Steam backlog that could wrap around the moon so I've got plenty to keep me entertained until it's done. But I, and I'm sure the rest of the community, are curious. Any feedback would be appreciated.
well, that assumes the game is still actually being worked on. which I'm pretty unsure of at this point.
Yes, please stop working on the game to post arbitrary updates!
would it really be so hard to take a few minutes to update the people who were good enough to pledge you money over two years ago?