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"Soñábamos con un joystick arcade como los de antes. Irrompible y Duradero. No lo encontrábamos, por eso lo hemos creado."

Hace dos años, por Enero de 2016, mi colega Sam y yo, comenzamos una aventura cuyo objetivo era, simple y llanamente, fabricar y comercializar el mejor Joystick del mercado. 

Pero todo comenzó mucho antes… Corría el año 88 y un niño de 11 años, lleno de futuro y emoción por la vida, inmerso ya hasta las trancas en las recreativas y los juegos de 8 bits, descubrió, en un destartalado escaparate de una escondida tienda de reparaciones de las afueras de Barcelona, un maravilloso Joystick de sobremesa…con el aspecto de los joysticks de las recreativas!!!. Era el afamado Joystick Professional Telemach. Como muchos dentro de la comunidad de gamers retro avezados, somos de la firme convicción de que el Joystick Telemach, que se comercializó en España a finales de los ochenta, ha sido el mejor Joystick de la historia. No somos los únicos que opinamos así. Hay decenas de foros que apoyan esta idea. Para los nostálgicos, y para los que no lo conocéis todavía, el Joystick Telemach tenía esta pinta: 

Joystick Profesional Telemach 1988
Joystick Profesional Telemach 1988

Por qué era el Telelemach tan bueno? Que tenía que otros no? Básicamente ofrecía dos valores añadidos, robustez y durabilidad, dentro de unas líneas de diseño bastante sugerentes. El cajón era de madera en vez de plástico y la palanca era magnética en vez de muelles. Con los años, fueron apareciendo otras consolas de 8 y 16 bits, los PCs, luego las PlayStation, etc.. El Telemach ya había quedado obsoleto en pocos años, pero yo intenté darle uso adaptando su electrónica y cableado a los nuevos standard de puertos gamepad que iban saliendo. Solo había que ponerle la placa electrónica de otro joystick y ya está. El problema es que el Telemach, como la mayoría de Joysticks de los 80, solo tenía 2 botones, suficientes para los juegos de saltar y disparar, pero insuficiente para las nuevas generaciones de juegos que necesitaban 4 o 6 botones. Aquí los apaños eran varios. No os riais, pero en los 90 llegué a usar “tuppers” con ventosa para añadir botones anexos al mando.

Casi 30 años después,  ya con trabajo, casado y con niños, un día de mudanza me apareció el joystick Telemach de una caja y algo dentro mío se volvió a activar. En ese entonces me había hecho con una raspberry PI y la había programado para jugar a emuladores de consola y MAME en el televisor de casa y automáticamente pensé “necesito un Telemach 2 players con 6 u 8 botones por jugador.... pero eso no existe! Pues habrá que hacerlo...“.

Tomé las medidas del Telemach e hice un modelo en Autocad a escala incluyendo botones de start, select, player 1, player 2 y 6 botones de acción. 

Diseño CAD del Arkadian 2 Player
Diseño CAD del Arkadian 2 Player

"Cajón de madera, palancas con retroceso magnético, botonera sensible, PC/Mac/Linux/PS3 compatible."

Luego busqué en ebay algunos Telemach con la idea de desmontarlos y usar las piezas para el nuevo que quería fabricarme. Sobre todo para obtener las palancas magnéticas originales de Industrias Lorenzo S.A, que es la empresa que fabricaba el Joystick Telemach y fabricaba las palancas magnéticas en los 80. Pero, para mi sorpresa, Industrias Lorenzo todavía estaba operativa!! De hecho actualmente se dedica a la fabricación de componentes para máquinas recreativas, máquinas arcade, maquinaria industrial en general, y lo más importante… todavía suministran las palancas magnéticas originales!!! Me hice con botones, micro-interruptores y palancas en Industrial Lorenzo, compré unas placas de joystick universal compatible con PC,Mac,PlayStation,etc.. y me enfoqué en conseguir el cajón perfecto. Necesitaba un cajón de madera, con cantos redondeados, con filigrana y lacado en pintura metalizada. Después de varias iteraciones con ebanistas y lacadores profesionales llegué al resultado óptimo que buscaba. Y por fin hice el primer prototipo, el Telemach del siglo XXI :

Primer Prototipo Arkadian Joystick
Primer Prototipo Arkadian Joystick

"Arkadian Station, comprometidos en hacer Joysticks profesionales de alta calidad para los retrogamers más exigentes."

Pasado varios meses, un día probando el Joystick con mi amigo Sam, surgió la idea de comercializarlo. Él se encargó de transformarlo en un producto de mercado. Nos asociamos y creamos la marca Arkadian Station. 

Arkadian Station, la marca
Arkadian Station, la marca

Actualmente estamos fabricando joysticks Arkadian, de 1 y 2 players, y vendiéndolos en la web www.arkadianstation.com como producto artesanal bajo demanda.

La web www.arkadianstation.com
La web www.arkadianstation.com
                                            

El producto está fabricado, lacado y ensamblado a mano. Compatible con sistemas operativos Windows, Linux, Mac OS y PS3. Su peso de 4 kilos, sus palancas magneticas de Industrias Lorenzo y su base antideslizante dan al Joystick una robustez y durabilidad únicas. Hemos comprobado que encima de una mesa lisa de madera, metal o cristal, el joystick es inamovible ante cualquier impacto. De hecho, antes se mueve la mesa donde está apoyado que el propio joystick, El valor añadido que buscábamos era el de dar al gamer la satisfacción de poder aporrear los botones y desahogarse con las palancas con la fuerza que te pide el cuerpo cuando lo sometes al estres de acción y emoción que solo los juegos arcade consiguen.   

Arkadian Joystick: El Joystick retro arcade profesional.
Arkadian Joystick: El Joystick retro arcade profesional.
La familia Arkadian
La familia Arkadian

"El proyecto consiste en industrializar la produccion, abaratar costes y reducir el precio del Joystick".

Llevamos un año en marcha, aún no somos empresa pero esperamos serlo si conseguimos los hitos que nos hemos propuesto. Hemos vendido ya algunos mandos y los clientes se han mostrado entusiasmados con el resultado. Estamos activos en twitter e Instagram, y tenemos ya más de 1000 seguidores, que nos dan muchas muestras de apoyo y lo más importante, nos dan feedback para mejorar. Y el comentario más recurrente es: “El mando está muy chulo….pero es muy caro”. Al estar hecho a mano, el coste y el tiempo de entrega son altos. Cuestan 179€ el 1 player y 249€ el 2 player. Creemos que el precio que el mercado establece a un producto de estas características es de 100€ el mando 1P y 180€ el 2P. Y ahí está el problema, y la razón por la que me hemos decidido dar el siguiente paso lógico: Industrializar el producto y abaratar costes para poder bajar el precio. Aunque ahora es un producto artesanal, no tiene valor añadido el hecho de que lo sea. Mediante un proceso de CNC se puede fabricar en serie y hay empresas que lo podrían hacer y lacar en cuestión de minutos a un precio menos de la mitad de lo que nos cuesta ahora. Eso sí, los pedidos mínimos son del orden de cientos de cajones, y para alcanzar el precio de coste objetivo necesitamos hacer pedidos de al menos 1000 unidades. Con lo que necesitamos una inversión acorde a la nueva estructura empresarial capaz de sufragar y procesar grandes pedidos a escala industrial. Esta primera fase del proyecto incluiría el primer pedido de 1000 unidades de cajones (fabricados de una sola pieza en CNC y lacado metalizado), que nos costaría unos 30.000€ (a unos 30 euros la caja). Si conseguimos el presupuesto para esta primera fase, pasaríamos a la segunda fase en la que desarrollariamos la estructura de empresa. En esta segunda fase necesitamos unos 200.000€. Esto incluye los gastos del primer año referentes al alquiler de un local, a los gastos de marketing y operaciones y el sueldo de 2 personas para la gestión, ensamblaje y control de calidad del producto final. Haríamos una caja de embalaje acorde a la calidad del producto, con garantía de fabricante marca CE, pudiendo así suministrar a tiendas geek, de informática, grandes almacenes y Amazon. Solo así el producto llegaría a manos de los retro gamers a un precio acorde a la demanda con todas las garantías. 

"Te hace unos dobles?"

Come back to classics!
Come back to classics!
A jugar!
A jugar!

Redes sociales donde puedes encontrarnos:

Instagram: @ArkadianStation

https://www.instagram.com/arkadianstation/?hl=es

Twitter: @ArkadianStation

https://twitter.com/arkadianstation?lang=es

Facebook: @Pedro Arkadian Station Martinez

https://es-es.facebook.com/ArkadianStation/

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"We dreamed in an old-school arcade joystick. A sturdy, roboust and longlive piece. We didn’t find it in the market, so We have to create it."

Two years ago, around January 2016, Sam my dude and I started an adventure which objective was mainly to fabricate and commercialize the best arcade Joystick of the market. But everything started much earlier. During last eighties, around 88, I was a 11 years old child, full of future and excitement for live, already immerse in the arcade saloons and 8-bit games, find out a rare thing, in a ramshackle showcase of a hidden electronics store of the suburbs of Barcelona… a wonderful Joystick, with the look of the ones of the Arcade videogame machines!!! It was the famous Professional Telemach Joystick. Like many of the experienced retro gamers community, we are firmly convinced that the Telemach Joystick, which was produced in Spain in the late eighties, has been the best Joystick ever made. We are not the only ones who think that way. There are dozens of forums that support this idea. For the nostalgic, and for those who do not know yet, the Telemach Joystick looked like this:  

Professional Telemach Joystick 1988
Professional Telemach Joystick 1988

Why was Telemach so good? What did it have that others did not? Basically it offered two added values, robustness and durability, within some pretty cool design. The case was made of wood instead of plastic and the stick was magnetic instead of using springs. Over the years, other consoles of 8 and 16 bits appeared, the PCs, then the PlayStation, etc. The Telemach became obsolete in a few years, but I tried to use it by adapting its electronics to the new standard gamepad ports. You only need to install the electronic board of another updated joystick and that's it. The problem is that the Telemach, like most Joysticks of the 80s, only had 2 buttons, enough for jumping and shooting games, but insufficient for new generations of games that needed 4 or 6 buttons(even 8). 

Here the fixings were several. Please, don’t laugh, but in the 90s I got to use "tupperware containers" with suction pads to add buttons attached to the main joystick. Almost 30 years later, already with work, wife and children, one day of moving boxes, the old Telemach joystick suddenly appeared to me from a box and some burn inside me was activated again. At that time I had working with a raspberry PI and had programmed it to play console emulators and MAME games in TV…and I automatically thought: "I need a Telemach 2 players with 6 or 8 buttons per player .... but that doesn’t exists! Well, it will have to be done ... " I took the Telemach measurements and made a scale model in Autocad including start, select, player 1, player 2 and 6 action buttons. 

CAD design of the Arkadian beta prototype
CAD design of the Arkadian beta prototype

 “It is made up of high quality arcade elements, meaning magnetic recoil levers, sensitive buttons, a very sturdy wooden construction and high-quality chrome finish. PC/Mac/Linux/PS3 compatible.” 

 Then I looked for in ebay for some Telemach with the idea of disassembling them and using the pieces for the new one I wanted to manufacture. Especially to obtain the original magnetic sticks of Industrias Lorenzo S.A, which is the company that manufactured the Joystick Telemach and manufactured the magnetic sticks in the 80s. But, oh surprise, Industrias Lorenzo was still operational! Actually, it is currently dedicated to the manufacture of components for arcade machines, industrial machinery in general, and most importantly ... they still supply the original magnetic sticks !!! I ordered buttons, micro-switches and levers in Industrial Lorenzo, I bought some universal joystick/gamepad board compatible with PC, Mac, PlayStation3, etc ... and I focused on getting the perfect case, a rugged, polished rounded wooden case and finished in metallic paint. After several iterations with cabinet makers and professional lacquers I arrived at the optimal result I was looking for. And finally I made the first prototype, the Telemach of the 21st century: 

First Arkadian Joystick beta prototype (2016)
First Arkadian Joystick beta prototype (2016)

"Arkadian Station, Committed to making professional joysticks for exigent retrogamers” 

 After several months, one day playing with my friend Sam with the beta prototype of the Arkadian Joystick, the idea of selling it came up. He was in charge of transforming it into a market product. We partnered and created the Arkadian Station brand. 

Arkadian Station, the brand
Arkadian Station, the brand

  We are currently manufacturing Arkadian joysticks, of 1 and 2 players, and selling them on the website www.arkadianstation.com as a handmade product on demand.

Arkadian Station, the website
Arkadian Station, the website

The product is manufactured, lacquered and assembled by hand. Compatible with Windows, Linux, Mac OS and PS3 operating systems. Its weight of 4 kilos/2players) and 3kilos (1player), its Industrias Lorenzo magnetic sticks and its non-slip base give the Joystick a unique robustness and durability. We have verified that on a smooth wooden, metal or glass table, the joystick is immovable before any impact. In fact, you will move the table before the joystick itself. The added value we aimed was to give the gamer the satisfaction of being able to push hard the buttons and relieve the levers with the force that the body requires when you are submitted to the stress of action and emotion that only arcade games achieve. 

The Arkadian Joystick, the retro arcade professional joystick.
The Arkadian Joystick, the retro arcade professional joystick.

 Arkadian Joystick: The professional arcade Joystick for all platforms. 

Arkadian family product portfolio
Arkadian family product portfolio

"The project consists of industrializing the production, reducing costs and reducing the price of the Joystick." 

We have been selling homemade joysticks for a year, we are not yet a company but we hope to do so if we achieve the project milestones. We have already sold some joysticks and customers gave us enthusiastic feedback about the result. We are active on twitter and Instagram, and we already have more than 1000 followers, who give us many samples of support and most importantly, give us feedback to improve. And the most recurrent comment is: "The command is very cool ... but it is very expensive". Being handmade, the cost and delivery time are high. They price is € 179 for the 1 player and € 249 for the 2 player. We believe that the price that the market establishes for a product with these characteristics is € 100 for the 1P control and € 180 for the 2P. And there is the problem, and the reason why I have decided to take the next logical step: Industrialize the product aiming lower the costs to lower the price. Although now it is an artisanal product, there is no added value in the fact that it was artisanal, and it has no sense in wasting resources in laborious work being possible to fabricate it by numeric control CNS. Through a CNC process it can be manufactured in series and there are companies that could do it and lacquer in a matter of minutes at a price less than half of what it costs us now. But, CNC production needs high volume orders. The minimum order is in the range of hundreds of units, and to reach the target cost price we need to order at least 1000 units. Consequently, we need an investment according to the new business structure capable of covering and processing large orders on an industrial scale. This first phase of the project would include the first order of 1000 units of units (manufactured in one piece in CNC and lacquered metal), which would cost us about € 30,000 (at around € 30 per box). If we get the budget for this first phase, we will move on to the second phase in which we will develop the company structure. In this second phase we need about € 200,000. This includes first year expenses related to the rental of a place, marketing and operation expenses and the salary of 2 people for the management, assembly and quality control of the final product. We would make a packaging box according to the quality of the product, with CE labeling warranty, being able to supply it to geek stores, computer stores, and also Amazon. Only then the product would reach the hands of retro gamers at a balanced price with the demand with all the guarantees. 

"Come back to classics" 

Come back to classics!
Come back to classics!
The best revisited arcade experience ever. Just try.
The best revisited arcade experience ever. Just try.

 You can find us at:

Instagram: @ArkadianStation

https://www.instagram.com/arkadianstation/?hl=es  

Twitter: @ArkadianStation  

https://twitter.com/arkadianstation?lang=es  

Facebook: @Pedro Arkadian Station Martinez  

https://es-es.facebook.com/ArkadianStation/ ___________________________________________________

           

Risks and challenges

El reto es conseguir reducir el coste de fabricación y componentes de Arkadian Joystick a casi el 50%.
El plan de contingencia es seguir vendidendo los mandos fabricados manualmente y mientras seguimos buscando financiación por otras vias para poder acceder a una fabricación en masa para reducir costes.
Tenemos los proveedores, tenemos el producto, tenemos seguidores, solo nos falta poder llegar a ellos en condiciones.
Gracias por vuestro apoyo.
"Equipo Arkadian Station"
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The challenge is to reduce the cost of manufacturing and components of Arkadian Joystick to almost 50%.
The contingency plan is to continue selling the manually manufactured controls and while we continue to look for financing through other channels to be able to access mass production to reduce costs.
We have the suppliers, we have the product, we have followers, we just need to be able to reach them in mass production conditions.
Thanks for your support.
"Arkadian Station Team"

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