Funded! This project was successfully funded on February 23, 2012.

Update #14

Important Project Update

Dear SolMate Backers,

We are reaching out to you today to let you know that due to reasons we are unable to disclose, we are canceling our project on Kickstarter. We will be issuing a full refund to all backers within the next few days.
We wanted to thank each and every one of you for your support and evangelism. It was an amazing learning experience and we appreciate YOU and Kickstarter very much.

Thank you for everything folks.

Adam & Jamie

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      Creator Syd Falk on April 27, 2012

      Or maybe just "meh."

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      Creator Syd Falk on April 27, 2012

      An American Success Story. Congrats if you indeed managed to get a good sale price for your company / IP / product, or a lucrative venture capital deal - which the ability to fully refund all your backers' contributions certainly suggests. While a refund is appreciated - it's certainly better than losing the bucks entirely - I cannot help but remark that you could've worked to get your backers some benefit from your new arrangement similar to what enticed us to the original just-you-guys project. Instead, we're to be returned to ordinary consumer chumps' status, subject to whatever market pricing your new arrangement produces. Not exactly thanks to your supporters, guys, and for the risks we assumed. And, if one views backers' arrangements with you as the contracts they are, a mere refund is probably end up being a shortchange of the backers' benefit of the bargain . . . . wait, maybe we should refuse the refund and insist on the freeebies promised, from whomever ultimately produces them, and at whatever price (which the gods whisper is likely not to be as low as the prices imputed to the SolMate products you lured us with). Next time, I'm insisting on a proportional share of the company - just like your deal partners no doubt have done. Yep, typical American success story: Venture capitalists 2, innovators 1, little guys zero. Gotta love it.

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      Creator Rudolf Momjian Pettersen on April 26, 2012

      If you think about it, $61,575 isn't really that much money these days. I was always wondering how ever will they go into the production of such hi tech equipment with so little money.

      Look at the Hexbright project for example. The guy got $259,293 for his flashlight project last July and he's nowhere close to production.

      I bet they just noticed in the end that there is no way they can make this project happen with so little money.

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      Creator Chris Rank on April 26, 2012

      Just wanted to say your welcome for the $60k interest-free loan and free press that we, the backers, provided to you. I hope the company that bought your idea burns you like, you did us.

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      Creator carol heath on April 26, 2012

      well, friends, this does it for me. I will no longer back Kickstarter projects. I have been burned one too many times now.

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      Creator Arnold A Sitorus on April 26, 2012

      Yeah. Instead of giving a full refund, why not continue to send the reward from the party that bought this project. AFAIK it happen to other Kickstarter project (PopSocket). This if that's what happen.

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      Creator Jamie Tsui on April 25, 2012

      I think Keith summed up my feelings exactly.

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      Creator Keith D. Bruce on April 25, 2012

      Hi Guys,

      I was sad as well until it hit me that we haven't seen the last of your wondrful product. I suspect you received an offer you couldn't refuse. Not one of these "class action suit" folks would turn down such an offer. So don't take any of their whining or threats personally. They do, however, have a point! You were bought out (very much the American way historically) but a good argument can be made that you "sold" out. Kind of a slap in the face to your supporters and the intent of Kickstarter.

      That said, a really classy way to end this on a high note and not discourage other future Kickstarter project supporters would be for you and/or the company who eventually/inevitably takes your wonderful product to market to contact ALL the original supporters such as myself and offer to send a final unit for free. We all did pay you the ultimate compliment by sending our hard earned money and more importantly we trusted you and the essence of the Kickstarter process.

      That would be fabulous PR that speaks to your character, our trust in you and the grass roots spirit of Kickstarter. At least a comunique at launch to all your supporters with a meaningful discount offer would help your personal PR and be a great goodwill jesture from the company who bought you out.

      Good job! You can make it a "Great Job" if just do the "right" thing.

      Keith

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      Creator Liloo Dallas on April 25, 2012

      Obviously, someone bought them out. It's the American way.

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      Creator Guybrush on April 25, 2012

      Just realised this "With that, things can change overnight and for many good reasons." ... Is not that a hint that maybe someone bought there idea on our backs???

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      Creator Philip on April 25, 2012

      Wow,
      I am really sad about this. This is my second big disappointment on Kickstarter. Is there not something legal that can be done against these guys? If they ever go into production with a unit from some other manufacturer, maybe we should start a class action á la Ceglia with Facebook, except we funded the original business plan, they used the money to develop the product, then sold to someone else and now want to pay us the money back! It just doesn't feel right.
      Honestly guys where is your sense of pride? Where is your backbone? Where is your sense of right and wrong? How do you feel about yourselves? Yuck!

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      Creator Corey Barberie on April 25, 2012

      I am with everyone that this really pisses me off. I have been telling a lot of people about this case and how cool it is. That said, this project did fail once with a much higher target, so I guess we all shouldn't be totally surprised. As for the trademark issue... that is STUPID.... anyone can google and they should have done a little homework there.

      I think the way that Kickstarter is structured, backers have very little recourse against projects that don't end up delivering. Anyone that backed the Vere sandals, Juices cables, Solid Watches, etc can tell you this can be painful... at least they are refunding the money.

      I guess that this is better for me in the end because I backed the iCache Geode and that will likely end up being my case 99% of the time... let's keep our fingers crossed that this is one of the few that throw in the towel.

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      Creator TS-WSL on April 25, 2012

      I suspect that A) they realized that the $30 k they asked for or even the $60 k that got was not enough to complete this project AND fill the orders they took at prices between $90 and $120 per unit. Soler cells are expensive, tooling is expensive. Small runs of parts are expensive. And B) they were bought out by a bigger company that could bankroll them, set up production, and provide a guaranteed market penetration and royalty that will fill their bank accounts.

      One view might be that they lucked out in getting bought, while another more cynical one might suggest that's what they planned all along, knowing they were underfunded but relying on the the "kickstarter effect" to provide the PR needed to attract a buyer. In this regard, Kickstarter.com has still fulfilled it's mission, which is to get businesses going, products and projects to market or completion...not necessarily to provide early adopoter Internet geeks (myself included!) a pipeline to cool new gizmos. Think of it: piss offl427 faceless email addresses and take the float of $60 k for a few months in exchange for access to maybe a much surer bet on many millions in royalties on sales of 100,000 units or more . Wouldn't be a decision I'd lose sleep over.

      That said, a better explanation or even some spin is warranted. Kickstarter is still an experiment, and a bit like the wild west. Remember e early days of eBay? We're seeing the fraudsters and scammers crop up. Hopefully the Kickstarter operators will adjust accordingly to keep their community engaged, motivated, and find ways to tweak the knobs to keep it successful.

      I just hope Pebble comes through...case I really want one much more than another iPhone case.

      T

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      Creator Bill Sanders on April 25, 2012

      I can't really express how disappointed I am after hearing this news. I have been skeptical of backing projects and I guess it was for a good reason. I've read everyone's comments and assumptions and I am happy to be getting my money back, but things just don't seem right. If your project infringed on any legal areas of naming, technology or anything patent related, it would have seemed prudent to google the name way before now and you would have found the SolMate product from India. Now that I am seeing this, I should have done the same and saved myself the time of providing you with my personal endorsement, and a free loan for the past 4+ months. In some ways I feel betrayed, you even used my name for one of your pledge categories. What a waste of time! As soon as I get my money I am going to delete Kickstarter from my browser and do my best to forget all about what I thought was a great entrepreneurial idea. - The Sanders Club

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      Creator AirSports on April 25, 2012

      Prefer to know the real problem. If its a name change - change the name, if it's a patent issue let is know and solve the problem (solar power is free so there is bound to be a solution). If its an infinite delay for other reasons then let us know, prefer not to be kept in the dark.

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      Creator Kieran on April 25, 2012

      I can only assume that it's something to do with this: http://www.getsolmate.com/

      But that doesn't explain why the project has to be pulled, rather than the name just changed.
      I can't help but wonder whether "getsolmate" have a case for sueing Adam and Jamie for using their trademark for the last few months, and they've only agreed not to sue if Jamie and Adam don't launch their competitor product at all.

      I think we should hound "getsolmate" until they either confirm or deny whether they're involved. If I'm right then an NDA is really pretty silly as it doesn't take a genius to use Google and put two and two together!
      Feel free to bother them on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Solmate-Unplug-Yourself/159780077407211

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      Creator Antti M. (deleted) on April 25, 2012

      I just read the comment about legal reasons and find it utter nonsense. In all honesty I can't see a possibility of NDA so restrictive that you can't release information about possible IP licensing or similar transaction. From legal perspective you still have contractual obligation towards the backers. Returning the funding doesn't releae you from that since its not thru mutual agreement. Sorry guys but check it with your lawyers which you most likely have working with your case.

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      Creator Antti M. (deleted) on April 25, 2012

      First of all I'm happy to get a full refund. Regarding Kickstarter tech projects in general most (if not all) "successful" projects seem to slip from their estimated shipping dates to the extent that when the product finally ships its no longer relevant. Then you have those projects which end up shipping utter crap (one bumpper case comes to my mind). Therefore, I rather see project being quit if it encounters problems that could lead into unsuccessful launch. However, I'm still disappointed to see this end like this even thou it's better then failing to deliver / delivering it so late that product is irrelevant / delivering something that fails to meet the set standards and still taking the money from backers.

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      Creator Jamie Tsui on April 25, 2012

      Just managed to read your comments about the legal reasons. Utter bummer. Too bad we The backers couldn't at least get an exception in the NDA.

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      Creator Jamie Tsui on April 25, 2012

      I am happy I'm getting a full refund. There are a few horror stories that are worse off here. However, if you guys did get bought out I feel used as a backer. Although I understand the decision, please see things from our position. It feels like we gave you an interest free loan and our support for a project we believed in. You held onto our money minus a portion Amazon and Kickstarter took to develop your product to be at a stage where you could show it off to investors so they would purchase the company. And if that isn't the case, we're left to believe we gave you guys an interest free loan with no reason why the project isn't going through. I can understand the anger that many of my fellow backers feel right now

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      Creator Yossi Gofman on April 25, 2012

      A total bummer! I do hope the guys have a good explanation whatever it might be as leaving the backers in the dark is really a nasty thing to do!

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      Creator Grove Media Studios on April 25, 2012

      It's clear isn't it, they sold their technology... That's what you call a sellout. They announced a long time back they were going to liscense their technology. So prehaps, the are infringing on copyrights? It wouldn't make sense to be sell it off rather than liscense the technology, either way, this is a absolute bullshit way to go about things.

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      Creator Blaine Kawamata on April 25, 2012

      I've backed 14 projects and this is the 1st that has ended in cancellation.
      A better explanation would be appreciated of why it was canceled.

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      Creator Kieran on April 25, 2012

      It hadn't even occurred to me that you guys might have been bought out until I read Brett's and James's posts but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Either that, you you've fallen foul of someone's patents. If it were anything else you'd be able to tell us.

      If it's the former, you should both be ashamed for abusing kicksterter and your backers' trust. I put in a lot of precious spare time into providing you with feedback and excitedly told friends about your project. I actually feel slightly embarassed for being so naiive now.

      Note to Kickstarter: you need to add a clause in the contract stopping entrepreneurs selling out (if that's what's happened herer) until at least after a project is completed. This was the first project I've backed and I for one doubt I'll bother backing another project again, it's too much risk and hassle for too little gain for the backers.

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      Creator Jim Kelly on April 25, 2012

      I'm with Benni. I passed on good battery cases waiting for this one. This was poorly handled.

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      Creator Jemseh on April 25, 2012

      NOT COOL AT ALL! You guys could at least give us backers a more detailed explanation. I, for one, still want a solMate case! What went wrong? Why now? What stage were you guys at? Is it more funding? Can you guys at least figure a way to reward your loyal backers? If not, how will you refund the funds? Are you guys killing the whole project? Or did you find other means to advance the project? Talk to us!

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      Creator Benni Klomfass on April 25, 2012

      "Working towards the end goal. Stay tuned."............. so that was the end goal ?.. at least you should provide some pictures and a reason why it was cancelled...

      Big disappointment.... because i've been backing this project and was eagerly waiting for it i didn't pledge for many other great iphone cases (that already got funded) so i missed these and now also this one :( anyone can reommend a good functional case ?

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      Creator Brad Parmeter on April 25, 2012

      Not impressed! A better explanation is really needed here! Smells like the project was purchased. Boooooo!

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      Creator Matteo Viviano on April 25, 2012

      Looks like they got a 'better offer' guys...

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      Creator Jonathan French on April 25, 2012

      Come on, srsly...

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      Creator Lane F. Kinkade on April 25, 2012

      this not only reflects poorly on Solmate, but also on Kickstarter

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      Creator JP on April 25, 2012

      I echo the disappointment others have expressed. We deserved a better explanation. How come you can backers can't "back out" (pun intended) but you can?

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      Creator Jason Chui on April 25, 2012

      It's very sad....

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      Creator James C on April 25, 2012

      All backers have been input many valuable information in carrying on this project. We deserve better than non disclosure. It makes us ponder whether our inputs and your research have been sold to a third party's to be applied on their future products which cannot be disclosed now?

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      Creator Martijn Evers on April 25, 2012

      Very sad to hear you have to stop this project. I have been very excited about it. And i think we are entitled to a bit more information. Is the problem technical, getting along with each other, third party contracts? Why can't you disclose more?

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      Creator Matthew on April 25, 2012

      Completely bummed about it, as I'm sure you are. Any chance you'll be taking the project up again via some other venue?

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      Creator Nick Klockenga on April 25, 2012

      I'd like to know if you were legally obligated to not disclose, or if you just decided to not disclose ? Definite bummer either way. I just keep thinking ... why ?

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      Creator Robert Long on April 25, 2012

      total bummer.

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      Creator Carl Hancock on April 25, 2012

      Bummer. Reasons you are unable to disclose? That sure seems like a cop out.

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      Creator Brett Downen on April 25, 2012

      So which megacorporation bought you guys for $12 million? Sadly disappointed, with the lip service I was providing you guys I could have started my own retail store. And just like Robert, my first and likely last kickstarter project.

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      Creator Jim Hillhouse on April 25, 2012

      Folks,

      I was very sad to get your email. Your design is a good one and i hope it can see the light of day at another time.

      My best wishes to you and your future endeavors.

      Jim Hillhouse

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      Creator Robert Fonti on April 25, 2012

      You would think we would have been provided with a better explanation than this. Very poor. This was my first project I backed and not impressed with the outcome and explanation of the outcome!!

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      Creator Joshua Chang on April 25, 2012

      Noooooooo....!

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