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    1. Monica Collaborator on

      @Mike Morrison
      @Geert Besselink

      Thank you so much for your continued support, guys! Truly!

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      Geert Besselink on

      Backed on Indiegogo

    3. Alexandra Collaborator on

      @Geist de la Muerte Gatito - as far as we know (we are not privy to the messages you are receiving from the platform), your credit cards were actually charged by Kickstarter and you will receive the refund from them in a matter of days.

    4. Alexandra Collaborator on

      @Jay Moran, thank you very much for your support once more! We are so grateful that people believe in MICRO and we have a chance to fulfill our promise!

    5. Alexandra Collaborator on

      @Chetan - thank you so very much! Your continued support honours us. You are the reason MICRO is going to be real, despite this unfortunate situation!

    6. Alexandra Collaborator on

      @J A Sottolano, thank you for your support once more!

      Of course we take safety very seriously and that's why we replied at length to every single message and concern, be it public or private. That is also why we knew before launching this campaign exactly where and how and when MICRO is going to be properly certified by the proper institutions.

      We appreciate all the information you contributed to the group, thank you for that!

    7. Alexandra Collaborator on

      @Wally, thank you for your warm wishes and your support up to this point.

      We will definitely keep in touch with all of you and keep you up to date with the future of MICRO. Our "door" is always open for any of you, be it right now or years from now!

    8. Alexandra Collaborator on

      @Jon Pratt - thank you for your support! To be honest, we did not expect such a level of support and commitment from our backers... simply because when someone tries to cut your wings, it takes a while until you start believing again that you can indeed fly.

      It's you and people like you that have been the greatest lesson in this situation. Thank you for showing us the incredible power of people who stand together!

    9. Geist de la Muerte Gatito
      Superbacker
      on

      Wait, so now the message from Kickstarter is that our cards were never charged but the campaign is suspended? That isn't true, my card was charged so I should get a refund, right?

    10. Jay Moran on

      IGG it is. Good luck, looking forward to it. Lot better than the paperclips I normally use... ;-)

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      Chetan on

      Funded on Indiegogo. Good luck guys...

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      J A Sottolano on

      Monica (and all),

      To be transparent, when I first heard about Micro, I also had concerns about safety BUT I wrote the creators in a PRIVATE note to try and understand what testing they would do, how they would try to assure customers, etc. I was satisfied with what they provided and backed the project.

      BUT .. Let's also be aware of what we're talking about. There are TONS of "Universal travel adapters" on Amazon (as Monica mentioned in a post) and I'd bet 98% (if not more) are manufactured in China. Many have the same body and specs and a different name on them, so this has become a mass produced item. My initial concerns WITH MICRO were over the blade arrangement, e.g. using round Euro plugs to accommodate the flat UK blades, or using the twisting of U.S. flat blades for Australia. My other concern is that (with any of these) putting a heavier "brick" electrical charger on the end, tends to pull these things out of the wall. They're typically just not made to handle a heavy load on the other end.

      The biggest different with Micro (and hence its name) is that instead of more "dedicated" blade assignments, there is space savings, but with that comes more care about flipping pieces to accommodate differing electrical locations. Most all come with a fuse as the protection between the wall socket and your device, and as Micro's statement makes clear, this is NOT a grounded device. In the U.S. we have the wider/smaller blade configuration to make sure an ungrounded plug is still plugged correctly into the power and ground/neutral sides, yet I've never seen an adapter that actually implements that.

      Bottom line. If you want "true" protection then you need the much more country specific adapters, with (or without) grounding pins depending on location, etc.. That or carry around a converter (ugh). We are trading portability for some level of risk with ANY universal adapter, and that is true of any of these. My solution?? I usually carry one country specific adapter with us for things like a computer or items drawing a heavy load, etc. where I don't want to risk any possible damage. For USB charging, shaver recharging, etc. these are a God send.

      In the end, what you do and how you do it is your responsibility. You can't rely on marketing statements on Amazon. If it's electrical, educate yourself and plug your device in as safely as you can.. and with that, I'll jump over to IGG to back Micro.. :-)

    13. Wally on

      Sorry to hear about the suspension. Unfortunately I do not like using IGG and will not be supporting your efforts there. Let me know where I can buy it from you guys after you guys set up shop and I'll gladly purchase a few!

      Best of luck!

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      Jon Pratt on

      Just backed you on IGG. Stopping using Kickstarter in protest - poorly handled, and hypocritical given the number of electrical products that have been approved on KS. I hope you raise enough to cover some lawyers as well as our orders. Good luck!

    15. Monica Collaborator on

      @Inga Narjes - you are amazing, thank you very much indeed!

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      Inga Narjes on

      I just backed you on IGG & doubled my pledge :)
      All the best! I hope everything will go as planned there now.

    17. Monica Collaborator on

      @Ruud van Zutphen - thank you very much for sharing your thoughts.

      The reason Kickstarter classified our project "heavily regulated or potentially dangerous" is because that wording is a small portion of their Terms of Service that has been incessantly repeated to them by lobbyists in relation to our project.

      As you will be aware, all electrical products for sale on the open market, are required to meet specified safety standards and the requirements of compliance of the regulatory bodies.

      At present, there are over 29,000 products listed under the ‘technology’ section of the Kickstarter website – a large majority of which are electrical and/or are designed for charging lithium based batteries via live electrical current. Of that number - 17 are travel adapters, similar to MICRO.

      Furthermore within the Kickstarter domain the following are listed:
      636 3D printers
      817 internal electrical components
      225 Fabrication tools
      2 more travel adapters were live at the same time our campaign was live.

      All the above, when for sale and distribution on the open market require intensive testing to ensure they are permitted within the ‘heavily regulated’ marketplace. Yet no other such product has been suspended before for this reason, despite the fact that most have no required certification during their campaign given they too are in prototype stages.

      Kickstarter has no certification requirement knowledge or any responsibility to have that knowledge in relation to all the products being crowdfunded through their platform. This is something they make very clear in their Terms of Service.

      Further to your request to provide regulator approvals, it is important to understand that official testing can be done only on a final product, not on a prototype.

      Considering that Micro is in the prototype stage, no official testing can be carried out at this stage and this is the situation of most (if not all) products funded through Kickstarter.

      However once the initial units of the final product will be manufactured, they will be sent directly to a certified testing body (a third party completely independent from the seller and the buyer) who will test the product accordingly.

      This is a responsibility we have undertaken from day one of our campaign and one that we made known through our FAQs and campaign timeline.

      Micro will be tested following the IEC standard 60884-2-5:2017, part 2-5: Particular requirements for adaptors. In our case Micro falls under the travel adaptors without earthing contact part, as Micro is suppose to be used with ungrounded devices.

      In the following link you will find a short description of what this standard applies for.
      https://www.iecee.org/dyn/www/f…

      Quoting the description provided on their website, "The IECEE is a system for mutual recognition of certificates of conformity worldwide. It is also a tool for accessing global markets directly, when national authorities and regulators, retailers buyers and vendors accept the CB Test Certificate and associated Test Report. This is moving towards the goal of one test for global acceptance".

      In the link below you will find a list of the IECEE Member states and you will notice that UK is among them.

      https://www.iecee.org/dyn/www/f…

      We hope this addresses your concern and we thank you for your support.

    18. Ruud van Zutphen on

      As far as I understood Safety regulations (take in mind 240 volt can run through it) with so thin plastic layers could cause a fire hazard or dead by electrocution.

      I understand why Kickstarter Blocked the campaign, most custom authorities would block import to this device as it doesn't have the regulator approvals needed to use this is the supported countries. (Hence it makes no sense to move to Indiegogo)

      If I'm wrong show at least one regulator approval (you need many to ship world wide)

    19. Monica Collaborator on

      @Gill Qiu - we are not sure why that is, but we are grateful for it because it has allowed us the opportunity to maintain our transparency with our backers and answer many questions that we know would have otherwise been left unanswered.

      Thank you for your support!

    20. Monica Collaborator on

      @alexander z.
      @Phil
      @Alexander Schug
      @Stefan Hebestreit

      Just saying "Thank you" doesn't quite express our gratitude for your support, but it's all we have at the moment so thank you very much indeed!

    21. Monica Collaborator on

      @Jeroen - we appreciate your perspective on Indiegogo and we can only hope you understand that moving to InDemand is a natural progression for all (or most) successful campaigns. InDemand is just a place for campaign creators to welcome late-coming backers and our presence there wouldn't have taken away from our Kickstarter backers, not at all!

      Nonetheless, we respect your decision and we thank you once again for having supported our campaign in the first place!

    22. Monica Collaborator on

      @Leander Sabel - you are a star, thank you very much indeed!

    23. Gill Qiu
      Superbacker
      on

      Just curious, the project has been suspended, why we still can comment on it? Unlike other one, once it was suspended, we cannot comment anymore

    24. Monica Collaborator on

      @Dusk Shadow - we understand how you feel because we also felt incapacitated when we received the first notification of our campaign suspension. At times, it still feels surreal that this is happening and we even asked Kickstarter what could we have done more or better to avoid such an outcome.

      Thank you for sympathising and for your continued support, it means the world to us!

    25. Monica Collaborator on

      @Clarissa - thank you very, very much!!

    26. Monica Collaborator on

      @Paul Wolovich - final days of the campaign, we had received many messages from people interested and able to back MICRO only after our campaign would have ended on Kickstarter. We wanted to be inclusive and give people who found out about us later the opportunity to still support us and get their own MICRO.

      It is common practice for successful campaigns to transition to InDemand for this purpose and we have nonetheless included in our FAQs on Indiegogo the fact that our Kickstarter backers have priority at shipping time. The additional perks were also not offered to our Indiegogo backers as they were relevant to the funding you guys helped us amass here on Kickstarter.

      So our presence on InDemand would have had no impact or taken away from our commitment to our Kickstarter backers in any way at that stage.

      We hope that helps answer your question and we really appreciate your continued support!

    27. Monica Collaborator on

      @Jeremy Pierson - your questions are just a fraction of the questions we have also addressed to Kickstarter over the past 4-5 days. We wish we understood the logic behind such an important decision.

      Thank you for choosing to stand behind our project, we appreciate it more than you know!

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      Stefan Hebestreit on

      Hi, also just backed you on Indiegogo.
      Thanks for all the Information.

    29. Monica Collaborator on

      @Rouslan Cherbina, we know so many of our backers share your perspective and we thank you for always taking the time to share it and maintain your support to us. Words fail to relay our gratitude to every single one of our amazing backers!

      Thank you very much, truly!

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      Alexander Schug on

      Hi, just backed you on Indiegogo. Thanks for all the Information.

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      Phil
      Superbacker
      on

      Just backed you on Indiegogo.
      @Kickstarter: This is ridiculous.

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      alexander z.
      Superbacker
      on

      If I can't get one on KS, I'll get two in IGG! and it will get certified and shipped! We will not let you down SAM, MONICA and the rest of the team!

    33. Jeroen on

      With the Pebble 2 I also got my refunds so I trust KS in this!

    34. Jeroen on

      I am sorry to hear1 But I would NEVER back a project on IndieGogo anymore! IndieGogo sucks in my eyes I backed a few projects there but never get my things! I find it also strange that some people or on KS wth there project and also on IGG, choose 1!

    35. Leander Sabel on

      Wow Kickstarter really is the worst.
      I have also doubled my pledge on IGG and wish you guys all the best in figuring this out!

    36. Dusk Shadow
      Superbacker
      on

      What friggin regulatory agency? I got no updates, I heard nothign about al lthe trolling..... I am so mad I cannot even type as relatively well as I moderately am quasi capable of . JUst disappointed. Goign radio silent on kickstarter for a while. FUCK you kickstarter, my balls are dry, please moisten them, I can even start a campaign for it =_= YO USUCK KICKSTARTER

    37. Clarissa
      Superbacker
      on

      Re-backed on indiegogo. I just wanted to post despite the chaos you still have my support.

    38. Paul Wolovich on

      Just out of curiosity, if you had your funding from Kickstarter why were you already on Indiegogo straight after?

    39. Jeremy Pierson on

      Dear Kickstarter,

      The e-mail I received from you about canceling this project is so lame there are few words to describe it!

      In the first place it makes YOU look really incompetent that you would let a project that goes against your rules and regulations to go all the way through getting FULLY FUNDED before anyone notices... what the hell is going on over there?

      Secondly, the reason you have given does not hold water since I can do a search for the same type of product (travel adapter) and there are current and past campaigns. In fact Passport has 5 days left... are you going to cancel their campaign? Are all the backers of MyPowerMate getting the same e-mail as I just got from you? That campaign funded only 6 days ago!

      The fact is that you, KickStarter, should be a place to help and support entrepreneurs, a place to help shelter them from trolls and all the negativity that can come their way from idiots and, sometimes, the bigger players that have more power and resources than the small guy... It's very sad and VERY frustrating to have KickStarter throw an awesome idea under the bus because you caved to some idiot who got a bee in their bonnet against this campaign!

      Now, if there is more info that you have not shared, please try again with a better e-mail with more detail. As it stands, I sure don't have a lot desire to continue using Kickstarter when you treat projects like this... And I've backed a lot of projects!

      I will back this project on Indiegogo and I don't know if I'll be back here...

    40. Rouslan Cherbina
      Superbacker
      on

      What you guys have to understand now, is that this is not about money or "safety" of the device. Now this is about how the government is intruding into your lives. What we see here is how one low life person is affecting ten thousands of people, he and like minded minority can dictate you on what you can have and what not. Are you going to give up something you like, just because someone tells you so? This is just ludicrous what we just witnessed here.
      10 thousands people can't stand against couple of scambags? This small project actually will show how united the society is. You can see big in a small if you want.
      10 thousands of people. .. ok, let couple of hundred go but we, the rest of us need to spare a minute or two and write a letter to Kickstarter and that peckock, to let them know what we really think about all this.
      Just go to indiegogo and pledge. If you was an early backer for £19, just add those extra £4 but let this project to be continued, it's not about money anymore, it's about how easy you can give up your freedom.
      If they will find ways to suspend an IG, we will buy it from ebay, Ali express, Amazon, whatever. I am not giving up my right of choice to someshmacks, who will think to decide for me, on what I can have and what I can not have.
      If you guys will not support this anymore, you will let this miserable people win, and they will start intervention in all other aspects of your life. Think about this for a minute

    41. Monica Collaborator on

      @Marcel - we can't thank you enough for the vote of confidence and your continued support! Thank you very much indeed!

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      Marcel
      Superbacker
      on

      I just doubled my pledge on IGG - your open transparent way of handling this makes you all but even more trustworthy.

      Good luck for the IGG campaign!

      M

    43. Monica Collaborator on

      @Yoshiaki Obara - if you haven't received a Kickstarter notification yet, you should hopefully get it soon. We cannot issue refunds because we never received the funds. However we trust Kickstarter will action all backer refunds shortly, if they haven't already done it.

      We remain available for anything else we can help with and we wish you a fantastic day for now!

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      Yoshiaki Obara
      Superbacker
      on

      Are sure you will refund me ? I have not heard from Kickstarter about refund yet.

    45. Monica Collaborator on

      @blueumbrella - it's a fair stance for you to consider both sides of a coin and be cautious. Surprising as it may be however, large organisations also make mistakes and rush into decisions.

      The reason Kickstarter classified our project "heavily regulated or potentially dangerous" is because that wording is a small portion of their Terms of Service that has been incessantly repeated to them by lobbyists in relation to our project.

      As you will be aware, all electrical products for sale on the open market, are required to meet specified safety standards and meet the requirements of compliance of the regulatory bodies.

      At present, there are over 29,000 products listed under the ‘technology’ section of the Kickstarter website – a large majority of which are electrical and/or are designed for charging lithium based batteries via live electrical current. Of that number - 17 are travel adapters, similar to MICRO.

      Furthermore within the Kickstarter domain the following are listed:
      636 3D printers
      817 internal electrical components
      225 Fabrication tools

      2 more travel adapters were live at the same time our campaign was live.

      All the above, for sale and distribution on the open market require intensive testing to ensure they are permitted within the ‘heavily regulated’ market place. Yet no other such product has been suspended before by this reason.

      We have made every effort to find and understand the logic behind Kickstarter's decision. All our requests for clarifications were met with 4 days of silence, followed by a second confirmation of the fact that our campaign is being suspended and all our backers refunded in due course.

      It is of course your decision to continue supporting our project or not, and we respect it irrespective of the outcome. We can assure you we are withholding no information from our backers and we are grateful for having had your support thus far.

      Thank you again and have a wonderful day for now!

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      David
      Superbacker
      on

      I have backed many projects that have succeeded and plenty that has failed due to being scams and other reasons. For this project, I will be doubling my pledge on Indiegogo.
      I'm sure by now everyone has received the email from Kickstarter stating "this campaign is in violation of our rule prohibiting projects that are heavily regulated or potentially dangerous"
      I have never heard of a single case where Kickstarter sent employees over to China for quality control much less a product safety analysis on any campaign.
      I hope everyone does a bit of research before jumping into conclusions.

    47. blueumbrella
      Superbacker
      on

      I don't know enough about the design of this project, or the potentially risks it might present, to make an educated decision about how to proceed. This is not to say, I believe there are risks, but at the same time, I cannot in good conscience, completely ignore Kickstarter's decision to suspend this project. I believe the creator, and collaborators, should excercise all means to clarify with Kickstarter, why Kickstarter has classified this project as: "heavily regulated or potentially dangerous". I cannot accept that Kickstarter has just made a mistake, or made this decision, based only on an individual's claims, without further information. I have participated in enough Kickstarter projects, to believe, they don't make suspension decisions without reason. I initially decided to join the Indiegogo project, but after thinking this through, I have decided to withdrawal from the Indiegogo project, and wait for further information. I believe, between the creator and Kickstarter, there is more information that has not yet been shared. Thanks.

    48. Monica Collaborator on

      @Scott McRae, thank you very much indeed!

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