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Make a character by choosing a Class Deck, a Race Deck, and shuffling them together. Then battle in this fast-paced card game.
Make a character by choosing a Class Deck, a Race Deck, and shuffling them together. Then battle in this fast-paced card game.
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Epic PvP Magic Poll

Posted by Luke Peterschmidt (Creator)
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Epic PvP: Magic will launch in about a week. After hearing all the positive reviews on the awesome box, we've decided to do it again. This will definitely raise the cost of our Kickstarter (that box is crazy expensive to make). As a backer, you already have a box though, and if you don't sleeve, you have a good bit of room left. 

How do you all feel about us launching a "box-less" version of the product in the Kickstarter? This would be all the contents of the game, stretch-goals, exclusives, etc... shrink-wrapped to a board for safe shipping. If we hit every stretch goal in our plan, and you don't use sleeves, all of Epic PvP: Fantasy and Magic should fit in one awesome box. 

This would allow us to keep the price down to ~$41 for no-box and the awesome box version would run about $52/53. Part of me thinks this is a great idea, and part of me thinks that I'm over thinking. Good idea? Bad idea? I'm really interested in what you all think. Can you comment below with "good idea" if you want us to do it or "bad idea" if you think we should be more consistent and only offer the Awesome Box version. I should note that due to a lot of requests, we ARE looking into offering a small number of empty boxes ($~24 with different art on it) for folks who want to use the box for their MtG or other card games.

Thanks folks, should just be a week or so before the launch!

Luke

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    1. Ant Armory on

      As a selfish backer of the first kickstarter, I would prefer to be able to buy just the expansion without an additional expensive box. But whatever works best for you guys is what you should do. If you could still profit from the new fancy box and the boxless expansions, do both! :)

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      Alex on

      Hey there unfortunately my box became worse for wear after only a couple of months and it was never damaged or dropped. The middle section has come completely apart from the box and the box doesn't close properly anymore. Did I just get a bad box or is this happening to other people?

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      Martin Zecher on

      Good idea. I guess this may also drop shipping costs, especially for us international buyers.

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      Chris Braun on

      As someone who has his copy of Epic PVP: Fantasy sleeved, I'm cool with the no-box option but I'll back Magic with the box regardless, as I will sleeve Magic as well.

    5. Ub3rt1mmy on

      i say box-less, but this is because i already have one from the first kick starter. I can see the appeal for a box version. maybe make it box-less by default and have a Box add-on that people could buy into if they want a box.

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      Michael Schnekser
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      Great idea

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      Stephanie Rose Simpson on

      Good idea... I would much prefer a box-less version.

    8. Adam Hanson on

      I would back an expansion to get more cards but I don't need another box. I hope you do the box-less version.

    9. Colin Toke on

      Good idea! My son and I can't wait for the new cards (expansion)

    10. Andrew Cotton
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      on

      sounds like a great idea. I dont need another box

    11. Trevor Hollingsworth
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      on

      Fantastic idea! I hope there is a box less option!!!

    12. Colin Clark on

      Good idea.

      Definitely don't have room for yet another box lol

    13. Josh Beauvais
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      Great idea!

    14. Eugene Khoo on

      I need boxed version. Unlesss a grand box to fit both games sleeved.

    15. Titus on

      Good idea! Enough waste in the world as is!...

    16. Scott Bender
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      on

      I'd *prefer* a boxless option. I've got a great box and would prefer for fewer trees to give their lives for something I wont even need.

    17. AliceXVI on

      @luke I just wonder bececause im not sure if ill have the funds to back this in time but really dont wanna miss it

    18. Joe Fourhman on

      I would definitely prefer a boxless option, since I do not sleeve the cards.

      Of course, if you do a third wave on the future, then I'll want another box!

    19. Luke Peterschmidt 13-time creator on

      Alice XVI - We almost always open up a late pledge option. It's going to be tricky no the non-boxed product as we'll want to produce that in quantities that are very close to the actual Kickstarter demand (no overages) as the product will be pretty much unsellable except through the Kickstarter. We'll probably make a guess as to the number of late pledges, commit to printing that number and then closing down the late pledges if/once we get to that number.

      I hate making decisions based on logistics, but sometimes there is no way around it.

    20. Mike H
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      on

      I agree boxless please,

    21. Krzysztof Dąbrowski on

      good idea...

      I wouldn't know what to do with another box ._.

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      Mark Biffin on

      How about a bigger box that fits both sleeved? I'd pay good money for fhat!

    23. Sam Cook
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      on

      Boxless Please! Saves space and money!

    24. Travis Blair on

      Great idea! My kid and I grab the box off the shelf to play, where it is displayed with some of my graphic novels and comic figures (that my wife lets me display). One box is good.

    25. Joshua Reubens
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      Seems like a good idea to me.

    26. Luke Peterschmidt 13-time creator on

      Jorge - We'll offer it both ways - with a box and without. If you sleeve, you probably have very little space left in your current box, so I'd go with the boxed version and use one box for Races and one for Classes.

      Tucker- we should be launching in about a week. Still need to edit some of the support videos.

    27. David Walker on

      I would vote for both options, as long as it is economically viable.

      If not, I would say only produce the awesome box option. With sleeved cards, I would rather have a place for all my cards.

    28. Daniel Cruickshank
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      Good idea :)

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      Tucker Harbour on

      Great idea! I want to purchase the nonbox option so please direct me to where I can sign up

    30. Jorge Peña on

      It's a good idea if all cards (sleeved or not) fit the original box. However, people voting "good idea" seemed to have missed the point that with sleeved cards and the stretch goals, it won't fit in the original box!!!

      So, not a good idea for me... unless this gets resolved.

    31. Francis Guilbeault
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      on

      the new epic box shoul be ablke to fit EVERYTHING WITH SLEEVES!

    32. Teamski
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      on

      AWESOME IDEA! This really helps us original pledgers!

      -Ski

    33. Ernie Sawyer
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      Yes please! There is plenty of room in the box I've got so I would love that as an option.

    34. Mario Curro on

      Good idea? GREAT IDEA!!!

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    36. Nicolai Schwarz
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      Good idea.
      Of course it is a good idea. What's the point of having two big boxes with both of them being only half full? I only need one box - with all of the cards.

    37. I'm Out
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      No box = good idea!

    38. AliceXVI on

      I want no box option at the very least. the whole point of the first box is that its big enough to handle future expansions like this. Also will there be a late pledge option?

    39. Luke Peterschmidt 13-time creator on

      Matthew - I like the Broken Token Idea! Our thought was for sleeving folks, they would use one Awesome Box for Races and one for Classes, but always better to have just one. I'll ping them on Tuesday. I doubt we'll have it up and running at launch, but I'll at least start the ball rolling.

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      Frederic Methot on

      Damn autocorrect. Of course I meant "I'd" not "I'don't".

    41. Matthew Brubaker
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      Good Idea*

      I would like to see a version of the box able to hold all of the sleeved cards. Perhaps a Broken Token collaboration.

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      Frederic Methot on

      Good idea! I'don't probably just throw the box out otherwise.

    43. Luke Peterschmidt 13-time creator on

      Well this seems like a no brainer then! Thanks for your feedback everyone - really helpful. (...off to edit the campaign...)