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The Ultimate Back-packable Compact Archery Bow
The Ultimate Back-packable Compact Archery Bow
The Atmos Compact Modern Longbow - The only 60"+ bow that can pack down into a standard 22" pack and accepts all types of accessories.
The Atmos Compact Modern Longbow - The only 60"+ bow that can pack down into a standard 22" pack and accepts all types of accessories. Read more
This project will only be funded if it reaches its goal by .
A backpackable bow? Aren't there plenty of takedown bows that fit into a backpack?
Well, not quite. In fact when you start looking at which backpacks most people use and how long takedown bows actually are, you realize that the Atmos is a truly unique bow specifically designed to fit INSIDE a backpack.
But before we give you all the details, here is what an expert had to say about the Atmos in this awesome review that summarizes it perfectly.
With the huge popularity of our current folding bows and numerous requests to design another bow that can accept sites and other accessories, we decided to design a new backpackable bow that felt familiar to compound, recurve and longbow archers with respect to the accessories they are familiar shooting; making for a quick and easy transition from their bows to a compact, backpackable bow when the need arose.
The challenge was to develop a bow that could pack down into a small 22" backpack, yet was long enough that it did not stack. Stacking is a phenomenon whereby a bow's draw force curve is smooth in the beginning of the draw and then suddenly shoots up at the end, making it almost impossible to draw it back further. This typically happens when a bow is too short for the archer or when the limb to riser ratio is incorrect.
For a bow to not stack for taller archers, it needs to be about 60" in length or longer. And to get a 60" takedown bow into a 22" backpack is where the big design challenge comes in. That was a job for our lead engineer. Why is 22" such an important dimension for "backpack-ability"? Well, most outdoorsmen prefer to carry 1-day or 3-day packs into the field. These packs are about 22" in length and are easier to move around with especially when on the hunt.
Our research showed that there are currently no 60"+ bows on the market that can fit into this length of backpack. Some come close, but the limbs are around 24-26" in length when taken down and just don't fit. Bows with 22" limbs are typically shorter than 56" and therefore stack fairly quickly when used by taller archers.
Another important thing to consider is that most recurve limbs are not very compact nor robust when thrown around in a pack. As you will see later, we overcame the need for using a recurve style limb to reduce stacking by using a straight deep flex composite fiber limb that allows for a smooth draw and an efficient stroke and is super strong to boot. Deep flex is something traditional materials are just not as good at.
And don't worry about arrows being too long either, as we have a solution for that too with our awesome takedown arrows we have been selling since 2014.
THE DESIGN CRITERIA AND ATMOS DEVELOPMENT
So our lead engineer got to work designing a new bow. Coming from 15 years in an automotive design and development environment he tackled this engineering project with the same skillset and advanced software used in that industry. Click the video below to learn more about how he set to work.
- Be made in the USA
31” Maximum draw
- Must not stack
- Fit into a standard 22" (559mm) backpack
- Feel familiar to all archers
- Weigh between 2.4 and 2.8lbs (1,09 and 1.27kg)
- Be durable
- Be corrosion resistant and weather proof
- Accept any type of accessory
- Be shot with fingers or a release
- Be shot off the shelf or a rest/whisker biscuit
- Shoot quietly
- Look good and have great styling
After all was said and done and the first prototypes came off the production line we ended up with a bow that met all our design criteria and we were happy with every aspect of it. It had surpassed our expectations.
THE OPPORTUNITY - "WITH YOUR HELP WE CAN DO IT!"
In order to prove the concept we had to make the initial investment into the riser and limb production tooling, which was the major expense of this project. Now that we are happy with the bows performance and durability, we need your help to complete all the other parts that will refine and round the bow off.
Your pledge will go directly into the manufacture of the molds and tooling required to produce these parts on a volume scale. This is actually good news because this means the risk is low on this project due to the main parts having already been made.
If things go really well and we far exceed our campaign goals then we plan on adding some extras such as a left handed version (requires new riser tooling of about $7000), a more advanced 3D grip (requires an expensive mold $5000), more 30#, 35#, 40# and 45# limbs ($15,000 investment per poundage) and if things go really, really well we may even invest in an extrusion to increase our production capacity (cost $14000 plus material). As you can see, MADE IN THE USA is not cheap!!!
Help us to get this project over its last hurdle and bring this awesome bow to life so we can help adventurers around the world spend more time in those hard to get to places few have ever been.
Choosing a reward is pretty straight forward and involves 3 STEPS:
STEP 1. Start by choosing your desired package by choosing a poundage from the list of rewards. See below if you are not sure which poundage to choose. The color option as mentioned below will be chosen when we send out our survey at the end of the campaign.
STEP 2. Add extra accessories to your order by adding the corresponding amount of funds. For example, if you choose to order an extra set of our takedown arrows worth $60 in addition to your pledge of say $499, then add the extra $60 to your order. E.g. $499 +$60 (extra) = $559.
STEP 3. Picking your color is pretty simple. At the end of the campaign we will ask you for information as part of our Kickstarter survey so that we can ship your order out. The survey will ask you which color of bow you would like as well as which accessories you chose in number two above.
AVAILABLE POUNDAGE OPTIONS
We have 5 poundage options available: 30#, 35#, 40#, 45#, 50# and 55# all measured at 28" draw. Every person is different and the poundage you choose will depend on a number of factors including your height, strength, level of fitness, years of archery experience, etc.
Here are some general guidelines to help you choose your poundage if you are totally new to archery.
Accuracy is the goal: This may sound silly, but what we mean by this is that everything you do in archery must allow you to shoot accurately. So when choosing a bow the first thing to consider is which bow poundage will allow you to shoot the most accurately. The answer to that is somewhat simple, but also somewhat complicated.
Don't try be a hero (even though you may already be one): Archery is more about consistency than brute force. A heavier poundage bow does not always mean a better more accurate bow. The most accurate poundage is the poundage you can comfortably hold at full draw without straining and shaking. The less you strain and shake the easier it is to hold your shot on target and the more consistent you will be.
A lower poundage allows for better form: The lower the poundage the easier it is for you to develop correct form and technique. And the better your form and technique the more accurate you will be. If your poundage is too heavy then you may develop poor form from using incorrect muscle groups to draw your bow and that will affect accuracy too.
Draw length: Lastly, bows are rated at 28" of draw. That means that a 45# bow will have a force of 45# on your finger when you draw the bow to 28" measured from 2" in front of the throat of the grip (more or less the front of the riser). A good approximation for draw length can be found by measuring the distance in inches from fingertip to fingertip with your arms stretched out either side of you and then dividing that measurement by 2.5. If you above 28" you have a longer than average draw and below you have a shorter than average draw.
If you have a longer than average draw you will pull the bow back further than a shorter draw archer. A longer draw archer will therefore experience more force than a shorter archer with the same poundage bow. It is for this reason that we suggest that longer draw archers new to the sport err on the side of caution and choose a lower poundage than suggested for a medium draw archer.
On the same note a shorter draw archer will draw the bow less and therefore experience less force than a medium draw archer. So, he may be able to go a little up on the poundage.
At the end of the day it is important for you to choose a poundage that works for you and for the activities you choose to enjoy with your bow. If you are able to get to an archery store and try out a recurve or longbow to help you decide then that would be ideal. Don't get your poundage for a compound bow, as a compound bow is totally different because it has "let-off" at full draw, which means a compound bow of a similar rating is much easier to hold at full draw than a longbow or recurve bow. If you can't get to a store, then here is our very broad guideline to help you choose. This is for archers of a medium height corresponding to the weights given here.
If you are still confused or need more advise then please mail us or speak to a few local shops who can help.
AVAILABLE COLOR OPTIONS:
We decided to go all out and offer you our premium coating options at a reduced price during our campaign. Below are our 4 options that you will be able to choose at the end of our campaign during the survey. Bows with these coatings are expected to sell without arrows for $550 after the campaign. So the campaign reward are big, big savings.
- Cobalt Cerakote
- Burnt Bronze Cerakote
- Sky Blue Cerakote
- Camo (Hydrographic paint)
Whether you like to keep it simple and shoot off the shelf or are used to shooting a compound bow with all the bells and whistles, we have you covered with some accessories from both ourselves and Truglo.
If you would like any of these simply add the cost of the accessories you would like to your pledge or you can add it after you make your pledge by pressing the "Manage Your Pledge" button and increasing your pledge by the total of the add-ons you want to add.
At the end of the campaign you will then get a chance to tell us how you want to spend the extra funds you added by telling us which accessories you would like.
SAFETY NOTE: We strongly suggest you make use of an arm guard and a finger tab or shooting glove to protect your fingers from string friction and your forearm from string slap. And of course, ALWAYS WEAR SAFETY GLASSES WHEN ENJOYING ARCHERY.
Survival Archery Systems Takedown Arrows - 3 Pack - ADD $60
Our SAS arrows start out as an Easton XX75 Gamegetter Aluminum Shaft. We then get to cutting, cleaning, fletching, epoxing and at the end of this long and expensive process out pops what is classed by many as the best takedown arrow on the market. Aluminum is simply a safer option for a takedown arrows and our testing proved this so decisively that we abandoned the carbon arrow we had developed. These arrows are not cheap, but considering they are made in the USA and with all the work that goes into them they certainly are value for money.
- 31" long
- 7075 T9 Aluminum shaft
- 316 Stainless steel connector
- Easton Diamond Vanes
- Combo points included
Bear Weather Rest Right Hand - ADD $9
The Weatherest, by Bear Archery.
- Installs quickly and easily.
- Requires no tools.
- Weather resistant.
This pad will require some under-pad build-up to get your bow to shoot centershot. As the Atmos is cut-past center, similar to how a compound or some recurve bow's are cut, this is would be normal practice and a host of options should exist at local archery stores.
Spare 60" B-50 Dacron String - ADD $11
Neet Vented Armguard (Black) - ADD $14
Neet Vented Armguard (Camo) - ADD $15
- A popular full-sized, ventilated arm guard
- 6 1/2 inches long
- Comfortable poly-fiber backed elastic straps with velcro fasteners
- Three nylon rod reinforcement staves
- Suitable for left and right handed archers
Kantpinch Finger-tab Right Hand - ADD $10
- Removable insert that prevents nock pinching
- Smooth Corfam face
- Calfskin back
- You will be able to choose a size during the survey
Due to the high forces the string exerts on the fingers it is recommended to make use of a finger tab in order to prevent tissue and nerve damage.
Truglo Pro Series Tool-less 5 Pin 19 (Black) - ADD $89
TRUGLO® set the bar years ago with it's award-winning TRU•SITE™ Xtreme Series. Now, consider the bar raised. The TSX™ Pro Series takes all the great features hunters love about the TRU•SITE™ Xtreme and improves upon them, adding TRU•TOUCH™ Soft-Feel Technical Coating, durable stainless steel tube pin design and a variety of popular camo patterns.
- Tool-less design.
- .019" diameter pins.
- Based on the original Award Winning TRU•SITE™ XTREME Series.
- Unique stainless steel tube pin design for increased durability and brightness.
- TRU•TOUCH™ soft-feel technical coating.
- Large circular field of view. Aperture has 2" inner diameter.
- Ultra-strong / lightweight construction.
- Glow-in-the-dark shooter’s ring.
- Adjustable 2nd and 3rd axis level with two vertical bars.
- Level is illuminated by luminescent tape.
- Reversible bracket for greater vertical adjustability.
- Markings for windage / elevation / pin adjustments.
- Includes adjustable rheostat light to reduce unwanted pin glare.
- Adjustable for left and right handed shooters.
Truglo Carbon Hybrid 5 Pin 19 (Black) - ADD $99
Truglo Carbon Hybrid 5 Pin 19 (Camo) - ADD $111
With TRU•FUSION™ HYBRID TECHNOLOGY, the CARBON HYBRID™ is the first and only archery sight constructed with the optimum combination of carbon composites and aluminum, providing an excellent strength-to-weight ratio and unparalleled durability. Combined with TRUGLO's TRU•TOUCH™ coating, the CARBON HYBRID™ is the new standard for ultra lightweight, multi-pin archery sights.
- Lightweight carbon composite and aluminum construction
- Hybrid construction transfers less vibration
- Unique metal pin design for increased durability and brightness
- Extra-long fibers for maximum brightness
- Extra-long bracket increases sight radius
- Reversible bracket for increased vertical adjustment range
- For both right and left handed shooters
- Patent pending
Truglo Carbon XS Quiver (Black) - ADD $59
Truglo Carbon XS Quiver (Camo) - ADD $63
- Durable carbon composite spine.
- POSITIVE•CAM•LOCK mounting system for smooth one-hand removal — moves the quiver tight against the bow riser for superior balance.
- TRU•TOUCH™ Soft-feel Technical Coating
- Secure double-gripper design
- Hanging loop for treestands or ground blinds
- Mounting bracket adjusts to fit all bows
- Rubber hood insert reduces noise and won't dull broadheads
- Fits both left and right-handed bows
- Patent pending
Truglo 7” Carbon XS Stabilizer with Sling (Black) - ADD $49
Truglo 7” Carbon XS Stabilizer with Sling (Camo) - ADD $56
- Performance–based composites for vibration / noise reduction
- Interchangeable colored dampening rings
- Includes stiff black paracord sling with TG845B
- Includes stiff camo paracord sling with TG845J and TG845L
- Vibration dampening adjustable weight suspension system (includes 2 stainless steel 1 oz. weights)
- Continuously curving design for balanced energy transfer
- Engineered for performance bows
- TRU•TOUCH™ Soft–Feel Technical Coating
Truglo Storm Capture Arrow Rest (Black) - ADD $49
- Capture–style arrow rest
- Adjustable brushes hold arrow at almost any angle
- Dual–coil launcher is adjustable / replaceable
- Reduced arrow contact increases speed and accuracy
- Fast and quiet arrow release
- Ultra–tough and all–weather design
- Great for target shooting, 3–D and hunting
- Quick and easy installation
- For left and right–handed bows
- Patent pending
- Choose from 5 color matching inserts to customize your arrow rest (red shown on rest)
Truglo SpringShot Bow Fishing Arrows and Rest (Black) - ADD $51
- Includes two SPEED•SHOT™ bowfishing arrows and SPRING•SHOT™ bowfishing arrow rest
- Pivoting barb for quick fish removal and improved penetration
- Revolutionary spring-coil arrow rest
The good news is that in order to develop our prototypes we had to invest in the tooling required for the riser and limb manufacturing up front. So the bulk of the project is already paid for AND the long lead-time items are already complete. Here is a cool video showing how we take the solid billets of aluminum and turn them into an Atmos riser.
The rest of the small parts and processes are easy parts of the project and production will start once we reach our funding goal and will follow the timing below. As you can see, we have been working for quite some time on this and are pretty much done.
A NOTE FROM OUR DIRECTOR
My name is Doug Shadwell and I am the founder and director of Survival Archery Systems which is situated in the heart of the Bluegrass in Lexington, Kentucky.
After a 14 year career as an automotive design engineer and project manager and having worked all over the world, I decided to pursue my own business in product development. I launched my first product under Survival Archery Systems which has been in business since 2014 and our current products are considered by many as the premium brand in their niche of compact folding bows. Our products are proudly made in America by American hands who share our passion for archery.
I would like to thank you up front for backing our project if you do and invite you to contact me anytime during this campaign should you have any questions. I will personally be answering your questions so look forward to hearing from you.
And lastly, here is a bonus video for you.
Risks and challenges
Because we have already made the major investments into the main production tooling and have production level risers and limbs already approved for production, it is only the small parts such as grips, inserts and logo plates as well as some refinement with our decorators that we need to iron out. These are the easy parts to produce and thus there is virtually no risk. We already have all our suppliers waiting for the go-ahead to put the parts into production for us. All we need is your help in backing this project to get the final small-part tooling made.
With over 17 years as a design engineer and project manager I have no doubt in the suppliers I have chosen and their ability to deliver on time and to the quality I expect from my automotive production background. I personally guarantee you that if we get the funding we will deliver a quality product to you.
Back our project and help us to bring this project to completion. To do so simply choose one of our offers above and let us do the rest.
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