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Lucky Troll Games, LLCBy Lucky Troll Games, LLC
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Lucky Troll Games, LLCBy Lucky Troll Games, LLC
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Funding for this project was canceled by the project creator on Jul 16 2018

A much deserved apology

Posted by Lucky Troll Games, LLC (Creator)
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Dear Backers,
After 10 years of no sequel, my heart still aches for more Dr. Horrible in my life. 2 years ago my wife and I started development on this game with that exact thought in mind. I want to play a game so I can feel like Dr. Horrible. When we started introducing the game to friends and family, I was shocked to find out so many people have never heard of one of my biggest passions. We would stop playing the game immediately and force them to watch the DVD. We even gave out a couple of the extra copies we bought (knowing at the time when we got them they would make great gifts). This is what started it all. I want to revitalize what is so dear to me and I know is dear to so many others.

Attempting to attend a convention during the launch of our first Kickstarter was a mistake. I’m sorry I did not address this sooner. It’s clear that mistakes were made, and rushing to meet the 10 year anniversary should not have been as important as securing the IP.

It is very important for me that you, the backers, understand that it was never my intent to hurt or deceive anyone. Attempts have been made and are being made to contact both the company who currently holds the rights to the IP, and Joss himself. They have a copy of the prototype and they have been informed of everything we have done. I now know we should have explicitly and clearly stated that this product is currently unlicensed, and more importantly not gone into the Kickstarter in the current stages of licensing. As a new and overly enthusiastic board game creator I ask for your understanding and forgiveness.

For those of you that have played the game, or are still willing and eager to play the game. I’m very sorry that you will have to wait a bit longer. We will go back to the drawing board and do this right. I can’t say how sorry I am for the miscommunication and more importantly for the distrust this brings, but please know that this is sincere and I’ve learned a lot from this.

To the game stores that welcomed us into your locations and showed us so much love. I am deeply sorry for any damage this may have caused your stores name and reputation.I hope our future actions serve as proof of our sincerity and that you allow us to make it up to you in the future. I would ask everyone involved not to hold these stores accountable for my actions.

To the fans of Dr. Horrible: I feel my passion has clouded my eyes from what is truly important here. The excitement you felt and love you have is the same thing I want to share. For those that thought this project was licensed or in any way directly affiliated with any related parties, you have my sincere apologies.

Funded in less than 2 hours, 4 times the funding in about 48 hours. This shows that there is an interest and we share a common goal. However, the decision to cancel the campaign is the most honest thing we can do. Thank you for your comments and advice.

Sincerely
Nicholas Engel
CEO and Owner of Lucky Troll Games, LLC

PS: If you have any further comments or questions you may reach me here. headtroll@luckytrollgames.com

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    1. PK Levine
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      While there's nothing wrong with everyone's positive affirmations, I hope that you take away the very real and serious lesson here that you can't just appropriate someone else's intellectual property because you "really like it." If you do another Kickstarter in the future, realize that your illegal behavior in this one means that you're going to be under the microscope next time -- so be sure to do things the RIGHT WAY, not the "easy way."

    2. Prime All
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      on

      Don't worry, every body that has seen Dr. Horrible loves the concept , the world and even ...the game
      We can wait. and will be right here waiting ,
      Dr. Horrible: "And by the way it's not about making money, it's about taking money. Destroying the status quo because the status is not quo. The world is a mess and I just need to rule it" :) ;) ;)
      your not the first with IP issues, and sure will not be the last.
      You/we will get there, and if they have any sense, with it funding so quickly , it shows how much love there is for this franchise, and with the 10 year anniversary, this would only add to the celebrations !!!
      :)

    3. hxcmike on

      @LuckyTroll Thank you for doing the right thing and cancelling this kickstarter. I am sad it had to go this way. I would have much rather been a champion FOR your game rather than fighting against it. If things were set up the right way, it could have been much different

    4. Hunter Mayer
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      And don't let the internet buzz get you down. It all goes away when the games get delivered. You just have more foot work to do is all. And until then you have the infamy too play off of. I mean seriously... its a game about being evil. All the 'neigh' sayers are doing is proving you are going in the right direction. And now its a story to tell others. Lessons learned, you get to walk away and scheme once again.

    5. Hunter Mayer
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      Frankly Bad Horse would be proud. (You hear a terrible death whinny from afar)
      ;) Good luck with licensing! We'll be waiting.

    6. David Laine
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      @Lucky Troll Games, LLC, I get life happens—I moonlight after my 9-5 job, and I have an almost 2-year-old—but moving forward, be careful with how you craft your message before you put it out. Your Risks & Challenges and your 2nd update really dug you deeper.

      @Mauii, I agree that moving forward without the IP would be most likely. Legit companies like Upper Deck have taken on Joss properties like Firefly and Buffy, alongside huge IPs like Marvel, Alien, and Predator. I just don’t see it. I could see the game retooled as a new IP homage to Dr. Horrible, like Sentinels of the Multiverse and its many homage characters (Bunker ~ Iron Man, Legacy ~ Superman, Wraith ~ Batman, etc.). The art actually seems like Sentinels too, a similar rough indie homage.

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      Jeremy
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      Get it licensed, send me an email. I'll be back. You'll also be able to use those already existing characters and be able to expand on their creation.

    8. Mauii
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      Given the way this was handled, even if the license is given to anyone you'll be the last company on the list to get it.

      Honestly, I think the best thing to do is scrap this entirely, change your company name, and start over with your own game if you want to continue.

    9. Lucky Troll Games, LLC Creator on

      @David Laine while at the time it sounded like a great idea to launch at the start of Crit Hit 3 convention... Immediately I found I bit off more than I could chew trying to juggle being a small board game company, working over night, being at a convention to playtest, AND manage a Kickstarter launch at the same time.

    10. Scott Mohnkern
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      Cancelling was smart. I backed another KS project where they didn’t have Ip rights and it took them six months to get them, and it was mainstream. Getting these Ip rights will be a challenge given the obscurity of the media, and some of the personalities involved.

    11. David Laine
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      Best of luck moving forward. Thank you for this. It seems more honest, genuine, and open than your previous communications, which I think you need to work on moving forward. Having a light tone is fine, especially given that it’s a fun board game, but communications undercut your trustworthiness. Using a Family Guy quote to disarm (bury?) the potential licensing problem in your Risks and Challenges section... Launching the campaign and then retreating for 2 full days, when you should have been out front rallying support and addressing these issues... Titling a strange, confusing, rambling update “Crazy Random ‘Happenstance’” to poorly explain the licensing issue... The licensing issue was already a huge issue, but your communications really fanned the flames and sent up a lot more red flags.

    12. MoonRaven on

      Hmm, I had my doubts about the license, I do hope you'll be able to get to an arrangement about this.

    13. Impact! Miniatures on

      Good call ... I commend you on that decision and I hope you can work out an IP deal and get better art and some solid playtest groups ... then come back and try again.