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Thanks Kickstarter for promoting FRAUD!
The brass is away. Stop with the whine and howl, and look at the facts in the face (the real facts, not the alternative facts ;) ). The thing has gone and nobody get an refund or something other.
William .. please call the FBI. i will never again support anything on kickstarter when i dont get the refund or this guy lands in jail.
Has anyone here actually been in touch with the police? I find it odd that no one has done anything yet, almost as if someone's waiting for a statute of limitations to run out while telling us that everything is being done to pursue this.
I guess I can call the FBI and report theft that crosses state lines and international borders, then the whole team could be sitting in jail WHILE they sort this out rather than everyone just pretending like it doesn't matter and expecting us to drop it.
well, now i think its all a scam or conspiracy from the start.. as they failed in the middle because of funding stolen, and not release what they`ve done into open source files....
Hey a$$hole, what is going on? I was really patient up to this point. If you are not sending out stuff let us know, and call it a day.
Still waiting for my items or my money back.
You stole money from a 100% disabled veteran. I hope you are proud of yourself.
You stole from me twice. Once on the initial funding, then again on the extras
How has someone not bee arrested for this yet? Is the Canadian legal system really that poor. Maybe I'll rock up and commit some fraud myself and get away with it it's that easy.
This guy stole money to build a house and has somehow completely gotten away with it, what planet are we living on?
@Nils I doubt they bother chap, they've not logged in since 7th of February.
@creator: it really is time to let us know what is going on currently. Cant take this long to figure it out, if you were really trying.
Just a reminder, we all still know that the peachy printer team are a bunch of thief's.
Look dude, if you are not going to deliver anything just say so. So we have closure.
So, house building started in 2013, it's now 2017 and it's still not complete enough to take out a loan against. Tell me this, and I'm just taking a shot in the dark here, don't read too much in to it. Did David buy this house on Kickstarter?
I have been silent up until now. I understand that Rylan likely did not know what was going on and put his trust into a conman (David). I hate to admit that I too have been taken in the past and it is embarrassing and confusing on where to go from there. I have hired lawyers only to loose more money making payments to them with no favorable outcome. It is likely that if the police ever complete their investigation, David MAY see some jail time but it is very unlikely that there will be any signification restitution (as any money he does have will go to his own legal fees). That said, I must agree with others that indicate that they are willing to receive whatever is still available in stock (even willing to pay for shipping). If the output of parts is properly tracked, correctly documented and agreed to by both parties (relinquishing rights to future suits against Rylan), this should create no problems should this go to court or if some agreement is finally reached for repayment with the David. Rylan, is this something to consider? Unfortunately, I must also agree with others that this has soured me on Kickstarter funding. I have cancelled one contribution and will likely not support any others. I know that is harsh and I really do understand the risks, I just feel that I would be willing to pay more (once a project goes to full production) for a warranty and some guarantee of purchase fulfillment.
Too many "news" sites attributed the failure of this project to the housing embezzlement, not accounting for other monies raised outside of KS. Instead of moaning here to a crook who has no intention of returning so much as an email, would it not make more sense to educate persons elsewhere to the true extent of Rinnovated Design's criminal enterprise. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COFOUNDER'S HOUSE WASN'T THE THEFT THAT SANK THIS GROUP: THAT HOUSE WAS USED AS THE COST OF OWNERSHIP FOR THE REMAINING FUNDS. Also, the only proof anyone has of Canadian authorities acting was sent from Rylan, a one-trick pony for circular reasoning. Educate ampersand ampersand Dismantle.
Just walking away with 2 million ... nothing to see here.
Hello, anything going on here? Updates, anything?
Where is my refund?
Pebble has just gone to the Wall.
Has Crowdfunding died today?
Have we all said "Happy Christmas" and walked away?
I got a bit distracted with the whole Brexit BS.... But I am still interested in this.
@carlo bensi why should he check something like that?..
There's no need to pay extra to have the parts shipped to you. Rylan would have budgeted for shipping and set that money aside, as well as money for other absolute necessities. Since it was obvious he wasn't likely to receive any more money from David, he would have shut down operations before running the company dry. If he didn't budget money aside (and we all know he didn't), then he never planned to ship them to begin with, he was just interested in looting the company by paying himself a "salary". $200k to David, $1M to Rylan. If I had no morals, I'd be a little jealous.
1) IF YOU Wont let us pay extra for shipping of the parts you said you have, I think you are lying about what you have.
2) release the open source code NOW.
Just saying that XMachines is letting people pay extra to get their rewards right away including a bunch of parts option. They also ran out of money and are trying to make good by raising money from sales. I'd pay an extra $50 Cdn for my original order if I get an un-assembled Peachy as a do-it yourself kit that I'm responsible to get certified if I so choose.
It is an option........just saying.....
Hey Ryan, you last logged in on the 24-Oct-2016. Why didn't you leave an update?
Or did you just login to see if backers have given up yet?
Criminal charges are about sending someone to jail. A civil suit is about getting your money back. Since there's no word of a civil suit at all, I'm calling BS, Rylan isn't talking to anyone. BTW, Rylan, where is it you're working now? I'm sure they'd love to know about how well you ran this project and managed the money.
Rylan I would like a response from you on this question. If I'm happy to pay extra for delivery is there any reason you can't send me the parts to the printer that you do have? I could then source other needed parts and potentially get some use out of this.
Send us our pound of tribal tatted flesh.
Send us the parts.
By the way, jumping through Kickstarter's asinine customer support system to gripe about 3 different projects that failed to satisfy Kickstarter Terms of Service was met with a form email outlining how backer disappointment is simply baked into the Kickstarter biz model. If Kickstarter were an end-of-level boss, their bottom line would be the blinky thing that you'd want to unload on over and over again.
Misrepresentation of company health is akin to cooking one's books. Rylan pushed duplicitous updates well beyond the date of discovery given for his partner's embezzlement. That makes Rylan and company complicit in this stupid charade. Several comments address the disparity in embezzled funds to overall raised funds, on this platform and elsewhere, which includes government grants as well. That some money was embezzled for a house is incidental to greater mismanagement and fraud. Adding insult to injury, Kickstarter apparently does nothing when project creators fail to abide by Terms of Service that clearly only serve to protect Kickstarter for knowingly facilitating, and in turn encouraging, fraud. Instead of asking these clowns at Rinnovated Designs to do right by us, which will never happen, and instead of begging Kickstarter to pay it any attention (they annually churn tens of millions and simply don't care), I think it would be more sporting to take what you can where you can from both parties. For starters, one could point out that government grant money was obtained under false pretenses. But, because playing by the rules got us here (and is kinda weak sauce), I think it would be infinitely more fun to simply take what is owed you. Happy hunting.
Well this is awesome. I've waited three years to see something come of this and now see that it is going nowhere and that my money was literally wasted. Would like the creators to send me a refund as soon as possible.
well, i'm glad you and your brother had a cushy job for a couple years, and your buddy got a house out of the deal. so 3 winners. I was really suspicious when we went an entire year without any prints....
You must understand that we are going to take anything said on this, with a massive pinch of salt.
Este fue realmente un fraude desde el principio. Una crónica de una muévete anunciada como la novela! Desde el vídeo inicialmente montado para la publicidad fue falso y la máquina ni siquiera estaba en su total desarrollo!!
Kickstarter ha debido pararlo a tiempo porque nadie nos garantiza que también el robo es una treta para culpar a un tercero. Siempre es lo más fácil para un perdedor no?
Yeah, i am done with kickstarter now. Spread the word on twitter and facebook that kickstarter is a scam. Then we might see some action from them.
This project is a big win for Kickstarter, and the founders!!!! Only question left is who are the losers? ... Oh :(
Remember to tell everyone about your Kickstarter experience every time you see a project mentioned anywhere.
Want my money Back what a scam, at least get a job and start paying the people
Any chance the diagrams and code getting released? At least I could make something for my money.
Another dead project.... Raised over a million dollars together here and on the other fund raising site... his 'business partner' stole $200k... now he can't send us our rewards, or our money back?
I want a refund!!!!
4,420 backers pledged $651,091 to help bring this project to life.
4,420 backers pledged $651,091 to be duped.
Is there any chance these backers will be repaid?
So, I'm guessing everything with this is dead at this point? No update in a while. No arrest records. No nothing. If you're working with the police and can't give any details, you should at least be able to say "Something's happening".
Can you give us an update? I would like to hear something from you.
It has been a long silent time.
How are these people not in jail yet? They are all criminals and fraudsters.
For those wondering, kickstarter wont lift a finger, this is the third project ive backed that has failed, and according to kickstarter the most they will do is send the campaign a letter advising them that its suggested to give a refund should their project fail. and THAT IS ALL that kickstart will do.
I was a beta backer so i paid $600($500 for the beta printer, $100 for the production), i did get the beta printer but it really didn't work all that well and is nothing more than a desk decoration atm.
I've since decided to never back another project. Kickstarter loves their 5% skim but then never lifts a finger to help when something goes wrong.
My new philosophy on kickstarter is to just wait for it to hit the regular market, you'll save money from knowing it wont fail after waiting 2 years. (which is what happened in 2 of the 3 failures I've experinced)
So what's going on with this ridiculous debacle?!?! We're owed another update.
I hope that piece of garbage is enjoying the house he built with our money. Did he have a good summer hanging out in the house we built? Now that it's apparent that he getting away with stealing this money, he must be breathing nice and easy. So that's good...I'd hate to have the stress of embezzlement ruining the season.
This pathetic mess has most definitely soured me on Kickstarter...so thanks for that. At the time I wondered if this would change how I viewed Kickstarted projects, and it certainly has played out that way over the last few months. Now, if I'm reading about something interested being developed and I see that green 'play' button on a video, I'm gone...forget it. Let them find their own money to buy a boat or built a vacation home.
(That's as respectful and considerate as I can be. I took out all the expletives.)