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Kickstarter fraud: Washington files first consumer protection lawsuit involving crowdfunding
where the hell is my cable - never ever arrived - THIEVES!
Mine lasted one charge. They're crooks.
This product was awful. I understand I'm commenting well after receiving the item, but I didn't need the item until now when my other cable broke. I used the curly cable for 2 weeks and it's broke. Will not charge anything. Waste of money. :(
More Kickstarter thievery. You'd think that Kickstarter would start a 'Hall of Shame' or something to show good faith. But no, they sweep $#!+ like this under the rug. Bad Form, Bad Form....
Just a crap product from my orientation to the crap that KS condones and perpetuates every day. It's nice to go down memory lane and tally up all the times I have been screwed in the past year. KS is simply a money grab for garbage and they have to be aggressive about it because one day they will just disappear. Poof!. They're gone. What happened?
Never even received my cable, what scammers!
I got my curly cable and one month afternoon received it my phone doesn't charge from it. It's sitting in my box of useless cords and cables.
I just did a little research. Turns out the two guys in the video are just artists/musicians, must be friends of Davide. A quick search shows that Davide is actually the vice president for an import/export company called Gava USA, which deals a lot with ports out of Shanghai. Makes a lot of sense... the pieces are falling together. His email is davide (at) gavagroup (dot) com. I have lots more information on him if anyone wants it.
@yvonnelcamaleon - Why would KS protect funders? They get a straight 10% off the top wether the project comes to fruition or all the backers get ripped off. Doesn't matter which way it goes - they still get the green. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me; set up a web page, sit back and take 10%. Project fails, KS still gets paid. Eventually the bubble will burst.
I totally agree. This is a scam. Kickstarter should protect funders. It's projects like these that make you think twice before supporting others. I am on board to pursue legal action against Davide!
This project and the Cryptek are bad business. Kickstarter certainly means less to me than it did. Largely due to their inaction and passivity. I only back projects where I personally know the creator or someone I know vouches for them. Or, when they have a history of successful and timely project completion.
Kickstarter should be ashamed of themselves. Crooks like DavidE and Cryptek should be prosecuted.
we should catch these guys and sue them! $1,500 pledge goal and they made out with at least 20,000 in their pockets!!!!!
Cable just fell apart on me today. Bought two (non curly) replacement cables for $5 less than the cost of my donation. What a scam.
Still logging in but not responding....
Against Kickstarter? Get out of here! Stop with the nonsense.
Anyone interest is pursuing legal action?
I was thinking a class action lawsuit against Davide and Kickstarter. Maybe a little legal action and negative media stories, will encourage some action. I still believe this can be resolved, maybe if we heard from Davide?
I was just watching the National Geographic TV show "the Scam City" episode Rome when I notice that one of the Rome citizen being involve in the show is Davide. I don't know if this is the same person and how common Davide name is, just a funny coincidence. And I can't help to cringe a little when I hear the Davide in the show with the title "Scam" in it. :D
I find it interesting that they are still logging into their Kickstarter accounts every now and again at least.
These guys at Davide are a fraud.. promised to fix the problem and resend new cables to everyone when this first started falling apart... At this point I'm sure they are gone like the wind, and frankly Kickstarter got their money up front along with Amazon and are acting like it.. Very disappointing.
Well, I guess KS effectively blew me off since I have not heard one further word from them even after more emails. Guess they really don't care.
Just to update on the response from KS on the email I sent 5 days ago (see below comment)....
There has been none.
And my reply;
I don't know if you are just not looking at the comments already made or purposely trying to protect this guy. I really hope it's neither. Almost every single person who recvd a cable has attempted to contact this guy MANY times and multiple ways. I personally have emailed several times and even called the international phone number that was listed at one point. NO ONE has recvd any response and as I said, there has been no update since June, I believe.
At what point do you realize that we all got ripped off and takes some actual action? Really, I am interested to know. AT WHAT POINT DOES KiCKSTARTER TAKE ACTION AND JUST WHAT IS THAT ACTION?
I recvd another response from Emily:
Emily, Oct 18 17:35 (EDT):
It’s frustrating when creators don’t take the needs of their backers seriously. By backing their project you showed a lot of faith in them, and they should respect that. Even when problems arise, creators have to tell backers what’s going on.
It’s the creator’s responsibility to complete their project as promised, and in instances like these there’s not much Kickstarter can do. What we can do is send them a notice that some backers are frustrated with how things have gone. I’d also encourage you to reach out to them again with a polite but firm message saying the same. That may spur them to address these concerns.
I wish I was in New York so I could go and discuss this with them personally. It has become evident that this was a rip off that just put out some super cheap Chinese stuff and pocketed the profits and had fun for a write off. Anyone in NYC want to report to BBB and go to see them? Best to all that had confidence. It is people like this that ruin society and the world!
Are you serious? This guy hasn't posted an update in FOUR MONTHS nor responded to anyone's attempt to contact him and you actually have the nerve to say "it appears he is working on a solution"! Really? Where did you get that particular bit of insight from?
Well, I guess I know why so many bloggers are starting to pan KS. Thanks for not helping. I just wish there was some way to escalate this as you really just gave me a blow off.
I just recvd this response from KS:
Emily, Oct 13 13:35 (EDT):
Thanks for writing in and bringing our attention to this project. I just took a look at the Project Updates, and while the information is not entirely satisfying it does appear the creator is working on a solution for the defective cables.
Kickstarter cannot issue refunds, as transactions are between you and the project creator.
If a project you’ve backed raises your suspicions, please let our Trust & Safety team know by using the Report this project tool at the bottom of the project page. We review every report with care.
Thanks for being a thoughtful backer and a part of the Kickstarter community. Apologies again that you’ve had a bad experience -- we hope that it’s resolved soon.
Chris russo, Oct 12 21:15 (EDT):
This project sent every single backer a cheap Chinese cable directly from an import site after claiming they produced it and then the cables all failed. Every single one of them. They closed up shop and every backer is out thier investment. KS's terms say that they hav a legal requirement to fulfill the rewards. How are you going to enforce your own Terms and Conditions?
Seriously!? This guy hasn't posted in 4 months and KS believes he is working on a solution? WOW!
I'm emailing KS and telling them about this and insisting they follow their own Terms. I suggest everyone do the same. Hit Contact at the bottom.
ok, that explains....thanx.
From KS itself:
Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
I don't see the word "donate" any place. As a matter of fact under the KS guidelines it says that "donation" projects are strictly prohibited. Go read them yourself.
@niek -I haven't made any false statements. I did exactly what I told everyone else how to do and got a complete refund from American Express. I load out quite clearly what the steps were. As far as "donating" some money... I don't know where you got that from. Try reading he kickstarter guidelines. No where does it state any such thing. In fact it clearly states tat refunds should be given for products that can't be delivered. If you want to feel like you made a donation than happy delusion to you. Others of us have INVESTED our hard earned money for these projects and expect to see a working product or get a refund. If KS won't back the investors, than that means t falls on the investors to do what they need to do to get refunds. Under the rules of cc companies, charge asks can be processed. I clearly stated how to do that.
@ Chris Russo: please refrain from making false statements about a credit card refund. Youdo not have that right. Do something about it and tell us how you did it, or stop complaining. We do not care.
Most of us pledged 27 dollar. Big deal. That is the risk....swallow and move on....
Please bear in mind that we donated some money and did not buy a product....they know that....
I suggest everyone on here start notifying thier credit card companies. Defective product, no response. Demand a refund. If they refuse simply refuse to pay the amt you pledged on your next bill. You do have that right. If the cc company hassles you, you have the right to write a letter explaining why you won't pay that amt and have it placed in your credit file. There is nothing they can do about that. I guarantee you will get your money refunded.
has anyone had any luck with these guys? i have been trying to reach him and his bro Luca (email@example.com) since June with no response.
We need to start jamming up his FB page with complaints.
Seeing but not reading because of the hangover. :/
Logged in again on 8/31 so he is seeing all of our comments
It's SEPTEMBER, and I still didn't get my cable! What's the problem, guys?!
I believe I found the guys facebook page. Maybe he will talk us now.
If it's a perfect scam the victim won't notice anything wrong and still be happy with the products.
It will be a perfect scam if only the cable is working and the scam part is that they simply bulk buy and sell a $1 cable for a $15 price and claiming that they've designed and manufactured it themselves.
Wish some backer that live in the same city can give a little help by reporting these guys to the authority..
Looks like a perfect scam. These guys bulk bought that cheap cable, then sent it out to us. I guess thy didn't figure on it failing so badly. Then they took off, never to be heard from again.
Well, hopefully this is not a trend for KS projects but this one really was a disappoint. No feedback from the developers. The product is a complete bust. Stopped working after a few days. Looks like I am not alone with my frustration. This will make me think again before backing another KS project.
Here's how much KS cares; they sent me an email that my comments were inappropriate and suspended my commenting privileges for a few days. Oh well, when the one or two deals I have already remaining come through I'm all done w KS. Big scam if you ask me.
I'm filing for a charge back from my credit card company. Should Davide ever correct the cable's problem then he can market them, but not with my hard earned dollars.
His phone number is on his website...
(516) 655-2171 -- David
Anyone getting some ideas?