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How the Player-Run Economy Works. Eco at 75% funded!

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Major thanks to all our backers, with your help we've reached 75% of our goal!  Hope to have your support in the final stretch to getting funded, sharing the word about the  project makes a huge difference.

With this post I wanted to give a detailed look at the player-run economy, and some of the really unique things we're doing there. It's going to be unlike any other online economy so far, and here's how it works.

The Player-Run Economy

The name Eco is short for the two primary mechanics of the game: ecology, and economy. Together they are essential to human survival, and the game lies at the difficult intersection of the two. Balance is the key, and leaning too far in one direction or the other will lead to ruin, whether its from lacking the resources to protect the planet, or extracting them so quickly the planet becomes polluted and destroyed in the process. 

The purpose of Eco’s economy is to ensure the most efficient use of resources and labor in the game. The economy is totally player-driven in the game, and this blog discusses how players setup and take part in creating and participating in an efficient economy that makes the best use of resources. We’ve created a number of tools to promote players to do this smoothly. 

Trade 

 Trade is the foundational aspect of any economy, and Eco focuses heavily on it. In Eco you’ll be able to trade directly with players if you’re both online together, but we also support offline trade through stores. 

By creating a specific building type in the game (buildings have special effects in Eco), players will get access to a store interface where they can set up a list of desired trades. Each entry simply consists of ‘what goods I want’ and ‘what goods I’ll give for them’. When another player uses this store (which can happen anytime, while the owner is offline), it will allow any trades to occur in which there is store inventory to provide. 

This is a very flexible system that leads to a few interesting effects. First is currency. Because the trades can be for any two sets of goods, there is no default currency in the game. However, it is likely that a de facto currency will emerge, most likely a limited mined resource like gold, but perhaps not. Additionally, the player-run government can designate an official currency which taxes are paid in. What we intend with this feature is to allow many possible economies. 

The second effect is speculating. With a store players are setting up a market where they post ‘sell’ orders for items they don’t even have yet, and then when they receive it while they’re offline (due to a separate ‘buy’ order) it will automatically be available for trade. There will be value then in facilitating trades of materials as a central trading post, even if the player owning the store doesn’t use the goods they’re trading in themselves, they can take a cut on their purchase and sale. 

Labor and contracts: selling services 

Another pillar of an economy is labor, and we’re specially supporting the ability to sell labor in Eco. One of the ‘goods’ you can sell in a store is a contract to do work, and when a player buys this you are each obligated to your end of the bargain in the contract, and the server will enforce it. 

Say for example that I sell a contract for house construction through my store. When I login, I see that I am obligated to build a house at an agreed-upon location, or an agreed-upon size, by an agreed-upon date. Upon completion, I get the payment (which the server holds in escrow) from the client. If I don’t complete it in time to spec, I don’t get the payment, and instead pay a penalty (also held in escrow).

 Essentially, I have a quest, given by a real person with a real need for my work. That is our quest system in Eco: based on actual needs in an actual economy from real players, which is light years beyond the typical ‘fetch’ quests you still find in the majority of games, which are completely artificial even within the context of the game.

Specialized skills

The reason all of this is so essential is because of Eco’s skill system: you can only specialize in a few skills. As a result, you must collaborate if you want to get anything done in a reasonable time period, both by trading goods with other players and contracting labor and services from them. Finding your role in the rich economy that will form on each server will be a key aspect of what you do in the game, and it’s completely dependent on the set of players you’re playing with.

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By allowing sale of goods and services while offline through store interfaces, we allow players to interact through trade even when they’re not online at the same time. This is essential for an online game played by many people, and will allow large-scale organization of sophisticated projects requiring the contribution of many specialized laborers. That’s exactly what’s needed to build the technology needed to prevent global catastrophes in Eco, so the world’s survival and your own really depends on your ability to function efficiently within the economy. 

Environmental impact 

As players build up a rich economy, the demand for resources will increase dramatically, as projects require more and more resources to satisfy their demands. This has a direct effect on the environment, as every resource that is taken from the ecosystem will affect it. There will be huge demand for large amounts of resources for the economy, yet terrible consequences if the ecosystem is destroyed in the process of taking them. Finding the balance between those two needs will be the crux of Eco’s gameplay, and we intend the act of playing to expose your own personal biases as you push one way or another, participating in group discussions and law proposals and government to find the best way forward. It’s going to be an incredible experience to take part in, and a very revealing social experiment with many unexpected results. 

We hope you'll continue joining us through development as we make this game all it can be, and more through the help of modders and developer supporters.

Thanks and as always feel free to email me with any question.

- John K
Designer of Eco and Founder of Strange Loop Games
john@strangeloopgames.com

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      Bryan Hakey on September 2, 2015

      @Scornwell & @John

      It IS a brilliant and powerful idea! One of the reason I think we might want to collect data from these games for economic study. I fully believe we will see many real life problems play out in our mini worlds.

      It may very well be that many people change there view point through this simulation. That's why I want as many governmental tools as possible including permits and other forms of artificial barrier to entry. I look forward to seeing if people can use these tools effectively to protect the environment or to protect an established industry from competition thus harming the economy.

    2. John Krajewski Creator on August 20, 2015

      @Max We will work to make sure the terms of the contract are always fulfillable, but you're right exploits like that will occur. That Eve example is really interesting, hadn't heard of that. One idea I like is a player-run 'tribunal' that can reverse server decisions in cases like this, at the decision of high-ranking players in the world's government. But mostly, we try to just prevent exploits like this.

    3. John Krajewski Creator on August 20, 2015

      @Scornwell exactly. Games are powerful things (or can be).

    4. John Krajewski Creator on August 20, 2015

      @Bryan thats great, I love the idea of this game letting people explore different viewpoints and discover things about their political/societal beliefs and biases.

    5. John Krajewski Creator on August 20, 2015

      @Bryan right now we just have limitations on how much you can hunt, but licensing and trading 'credits' is something on the list for sure.

    6. Max Power on August 20, 2015

      Labour contracts.
      What safeguards could be put in place to prevent someone offering an apprently very attractive labour contract which is, in actuality, impossible to fulfill. Thus garnering a profit form the inevitable default payments.

      Example:
      This was a particular problem in EvE with players offering large sums, for the delivery of simple goods to a known location, but with a huge penalty payment. On arriving at the station the delivery agent would discover that the station was locked and would permit no access to anyone except the person offering the contract. Thus rendering the delivery impossible.

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      scornwell on August 20, 2015

      @Bryan Perhaps watching things pan out in a much shorter timeframe will change your politics? It really is a brilliant idea for a game.

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      Bryan Hakey on August 19, 2015

      Just as an aside: I love how my proposed solution to addressing a damaging industry is a government imposed barrier to entry when politically I conciser my self more a "hands off" libertarian. The irony! This game is great. XD

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      Bryan Hakey on August 19, 2015

      This game just keeps getting better!

      Is there any talk about the government mandating a "license" to use certain skills so it can control particularly ecologically dangerous but in demand skills? For instance limiting the number of people allowed to mine for resources or hunt?