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Zeyez Engineering Update

Update #19 · Apr 10, 2012 · 141 comments

Technical update:

Zeyez is very excited to announce that it continues to grow its engineering team.  Zeyez now has  top quality engineers working full-time on Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, and Software & Firmware development of the glasses.  We are all working together to finalize the design of the Zeyez circuit board, ensuring that we have all the electrical features we need in the smallest physical size possible.

So far we are happy with how the design is shaping up. We’ve been able to eliminate a lot of bulk in the earpiece areas and hinge areas, which contributes to a sleek, discrete pair of glasses.

ME next steps:

  • Finalizing the hinge.  We must ensure that the electrical cabling running through the hinges does not bind or break as it bends through the earpiece. We’ve designed a hinge that should perform well, we are preparing to test this hinge design to ensure that it can handle 100,000 folding and unfoldings of the earpieces without breaking any wires inside)
  • Review molding strategy for power wiring.  We’ve devised three unique methods for transferring electrical power from our battery in the left earpiece to our circuit board and camera in the right earpiece.  We’ll be reviewing these methods with our potential manufacturers in China to develop a production process for running this power bus through a thin sunglass frame.

EE next steps:

  • Finalize camera module selection.  We’re currently evaluating camera modules, with the goal of final selection within the next 4 weeks.
  • Finalize CPU selection.  We’re currently evaluating 2-3 promising CPUs for the on-board Zeyez circuit board.  Some processors offer more power at the expense of a larger, less sleek circuit board.  Other designs are a little slower, but also smaller and less power hungry.
  • Antenna placement and evaluation.  We need to verify that our antenna gives us the wireless streaming performance that we need, despite being a very small antenna.  We’re evaluating a few different antennas in a few different locations within the right earpiece.  Our goal is to maximize streaming performance over BlueTooth4.0, while minimizing the SAR (specific radiation absorption) exposed to the wearer of Zeyez glasses, we still have a lot of testing to do here.

 

SW FW next steps:

Our SW/FW team is currently working closely with the EE team to implement streaming to our Zeyez system over Bluetooth 4.0, using Android and iOS platforms.  

Currently, the development tools available for Windows Phone don’t appear to allow us to implement our app on their platform.  

We are also building the look and feel of the Zeyez App (designing the controls that will allow you to record, review, and livestream with Zeyez through the App).

Schedule update:

We have an additional 8-12 weeks of designing and testing we need to conduct before our design will be ready to give to our manufacturers for mass production.  At this point, we need to make a very large investment with our manufacturing partner to build and buy the tools and equipment we need for mass production, as well as pay for the electrical parts (batteries, cameras, flash memory) for our first production run.  This is a significant cost (over US 1M), so we need to make sure we have the design 100% right before this important point in the project.

After we’ve kicked off our first mass production run, it will take our manufacturer an additional 12-16 weeks to get their assembly lines built, tuned-in, and up to speed.  During this time, we will be assembling small batches of Zeyez eyewear to test out the assembly lines as they come together.  We are planning on building these pre-production glasses for our Kickstarter fans, ensuring that you get your Zeyez eyewear as soon as possible and well before mass-market availability.  24-30 weeks from now, our manufacturer should be able to ship us the first mass produced batch of Zeyez eyewear ready for sale.  We can’t wait to get there, we’re working as fast as we can to build our team and get these glasses out to the world as soon possible.

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      Creator christian GREATCIA on April 20, 2012

      hah i knew this project would take some time but i still backed this project because i really liked the idea so i'm not bummed out by the wait at all. This what kickstarter is all about, taking an idea and making it real even if it take some time to complete.

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      Creator montree sae-tang on April 19, 2012

      hey i already pay a money for this shit in 12 june 2011!! and still waiting so fucking long time!! how long for i get that shit!! or how i can get my money back??

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      Creator Henry Barnes Jr. on April 19, 2012

      Will the finished product still have the stylish look that you advertised during the kickstarter project? So far I have seen the glasses go from a stylish wayfarer look to something my grandmother might wear (based on the pictures shown above). If we are not happy with the finished product will you offer a refund?

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      Creator Robin Jacobs on April 13, 2012

      Thanks for the update.

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      Creator ZionEyez Team on April 11, 2012

      @Rick:

      Our high speed camera signals are too sensitive for spring contacts, shielded wires or a shielded flexible printed circuit is required to maintain video quality.

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      Creator Russ C on April 11, 2012

      I have to wonder about this, too. How much "additional fee" are we talking about? Is it $10.00? $50.00? $100.00? I'm wondering about fraud complaints, too. I have my attorney looking into it already. He says that there might be a well-grounded case. I'll let you all know when I get the info.

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      Creator Neil on April 11, 2012

      This is fast becoming ridiculous...With all my current work commitments I haven't had as much time to look at the many legal options against them, This has certainly refueled my desire to do so..you guys at KickStarter also need to take notice

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      Creator Paul Marcano on April 11, 2012

      Well, I certainly sympathise with the impatience and in light of the speed of development of technology these days I would have preferred the simple ZionEyes I invested in, which was all I was expecting and would have served my purposes.

      Since then this product has been upgraded so much that I fully expect that an additional fee may yet be suggested with some kind of line of reasoning that will seem all too reasonable I suppose, however I am not game to such strategies if the developers have chosen a higher-end product then that is their investment responsibility, I hope it pays off for them. These updates are much appreciated, and do not sound fraudulent as such, but rather more like a continued plea for time to make a better product than was originally envisioned. Again, not what was advertised or what we agreed to invest in. A lawsuit would certainly kill the project gang!

      The WiFi is pretty controversial and needs to be optional on/off for some of us. It might be cool though having owned a cheaper pair of video glasses only to find after coming home from a concert that I was not capturing what I intended. A Preview like this would be much appreciated for sure. Delivery still sounds promising albeit excruciatingly distant but hey... I will be fooling around with Google Glasses long before these arrive on the scene which I suspect will call for yet another ZIoneyes design upgrade before we see these!

      Ooooooohhh wellll such is the reason I would never donate to KickStarter again for any speculative projects.

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      Creator Tony Giles on April 11, 2012

      To those who are defending these Zionist scammers: they originally promised delivery (to backers) in "Winter season 2011". We're now into April 2012 and they're still putting together their product development team and selecting components? By the time the glasses are ready, they'll be obsolete. I agree with Christopher Neitzert — this calls for a class action lawsuit for fraud.

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      Creator ken p on April 10, 2012

      Whaa? Take your time?!! If, when I ordered they said "You will receive them in 2 years (maybe)" I would have lmao!! Oh...thanks for the very belated definitive update also.

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      Creator satcat on April 10, 2012

      Pivothead.com will be shipping a very similar product in the next few weeks.. Please let us know why we should wait for your product....And f**k the wi- fi.. If I Drive down a mountain on my bike, I'm sure I can spend one or two minutes using a mini USB to connect to my smartphone..How many People are so interested In someones personal life..That they need to see it in real time..

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      Creator Pasha on April 10, 2012

      take you time and do it right~
      tks for the update!

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      Creator Andreas Løwe on April 10, 2012

      Next update would read like "a subcontractor screwed us, new estimated date: spring 2016".

      Just give us a refund already

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      Creator Charlie on April 10, 2012

      I am grateful for the update and patiently await the finished product. It looks like you're doing a great job, but I do have one criticism. What is the point of trying to reduce the size and make the frames more discreet if there is an inexplicable button on one arm? Is there no other, much, MUCH more discreet way to incorporate the button? I feel like defeats the entire purpose of discretion. Please take this into consideration. Thank you.

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      Creator Michael Davidson on April 10, 2012

      hey i need to change my shipping address as i have moved. thanks

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      Creator len jordan on April 10, 2012

      Hello to all. Please all backers give them some time to finish the product. Just be calm and wait. When you produce an item like this sometimes, you have unforseen issues.It seems they are going to give us all a UNIQUE pair of optics.

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      Creator Justin Martin on April 10, 2012

      Question: Is swappable lenses still part of the design spec?

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      Creator Justin Martin on April 10, 2012

      Oh, this Storm 'O Flame will be epic.

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      Creator satcat on April 10, 2012

      ARE YOU SCAMMING US OR NOT...!!!
      Please give us links, to your Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, and Software & Firmware development firms...they should be proud to support you...

      Any non response or evasive reply .."tending or seeking to evade; not straightforward; tricky; equivocal".. will be an admission of guilt..

      Put on your Big Boy Pant's, 2000 of us want answers...

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      Creator Euan Walker on April 10, 2012

      Refund please. The first real date ever provided is a year after the initial commitment, and doesn't including fulfilment.

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      Creator Christian Kepler on April 10, 2012

      I've said it before I'll say it again complete liar in a nameless fraud.

      $350,000+

      And, they show some CAD and a $40.00 pair of regular camera glasses they bought from a cheap Chinese retailer, then 4-months after they're supposed to ship they are just out of money and need to assemble a team of "REAL" engineers.

      LOL

      Advise to all charge back time everyone call your credit card banks tell them this is fraud they never delivered get your money back.

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      Creator ozymandias on April 10, 2012

      I like how 'Zion Eyez' stops participating in the comments thread as soon as people start asking questions with any depth. We likely won't see them again for another few months, even though they stated they want to start bi-weekly updates....

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      Creator satcat on April 10, 2012

      Which "Engineering/Design firm based in Silicon Valley, San Francisco" did you hire...?

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      Creator Lawrence Botley on April 10, 2012

      I think they said they would be rolling out initial batches to kickstarter backers well before manufacturing...

      But I do love the witchhunt here.. haha

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      Creator ozymandias on April 10, 2012

      So, how do we get our refunds if we don't want to wait for your next delaying tactic?

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      Creator diego querzoli on April 10, 2012

      ITS ABSURRD..... DID THEY REALLY SAY 30 WEEKS... THAS 6 MONTHS.....

      OMG

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      Creator Garcia85 on April 10, 2012

      I swear, I wish we could see more pictures, more updates, more communication. That's all I ask..

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      Creator Christopher Neitzert on April 10, 2012

      any lawyers in this thread? class action suit perhaps?

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      Creator John Foster on April 10, 2012

      This would seem to be a stalling tactic to extend the time before significant numbers of people begin to try and recall their money from their credit card. The longer the stalling continues, the less likely folks will be able to recover anything.

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      Creator Brad Olson on April 10, 2012

      Great fake update. I'll hire you guys if I ever want to scam people. Have you decided how you're going to spend the third of a million dollars you stole?

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      Creator ZionEyez Team on April 10, 2012

      @Rick - thanks for the feedback. We will ask our mechanical engineer to consider your suggestion / answer your question.

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      Creator Scott on April 10, 2012

      I'm happy with the fact that the engineering and QA appear a top priority. I am eagerly looking forward to a pair of the best video cam glasses available!
      S

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      Creator Rick Devrin on April 10, 2012

      I still don't fully understand the need to use a wire "in/across" the hinge? I mentioned once before (but received no reply) that it seems mechanically more sound to use a contact vs a wire.

      Where conductive points at the hinge meet (arm to forward frame)... like that of a battery charger. This would eliminate the challenge of possible wire breakage as that will be an obvious factor with constant use. It would also mean all three pieces can be easier replaced should one fail as opposed to the entire unit.

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      Creator ZionEyez Team on April 10, 2012

      @Jess - Thanks for the support. We know it is frustrating to wait for the glasses so we appreciate your patience. Regarding the camera, we are definitely trying to get the best possible camera in there --- image quality came as one of the biggest demands from our backers' survey. We will let you know once we have the camera specs.

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      Creator ozymandias on April 10, 2012

      Wow, *FINALLY* the level of details we should have been getting all along!

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      Creator Jess Ames on April 10, 2012

      Also at this point - might want to consider the option of a 1080p camera if it can be implemented with the CPU etc etc.

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      Creator cliff schwankner on April 10, 2012

      well that was long overdue...at least we are getting something...and if i read correctly we should be getting ours in 12 to 16 weeks ...,(it will take our manufacturer an additional 12-16 weeks to get their assembly lines built, tuned-in, and up to speed. During this time, we will be assembling small batches of Zeyez eyewear to test out the assembly lines as they come together. We are planning on building these pre-production glasses for our Kickstarter fans, ensuring that you get your Zeyez eyewear as soon as possible and well before mass-market availability.)

      so end of june maybe...i hope...

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      Creator Jess Ames on April 10, 2012

      Thank you for the update. I understand the process and time it takes to get this rolling and delays are sometimes inevitable. HOPEFULLY the product will not be too late to the market and just get pushed to the side. I, personally, appreciate the efforts put into this product. Would I have liked the product already? Sure! But I'd rather have a decent product that I can use, rather than a broken toy.

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      Creator greezer on April 10, 2012

      and how comes, that screenshot from this Samsung phone dates "Jun 7" (or is it Jan 7?) but it's April now?

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      Creator greezer on April 10, 2012

      24-30 Weeks? Thats not really "Summer 2012" at all.. Thats more like.. "Winter 2012" in your speed..
      Gettin' more and more pissed off..

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