Kickstarter

Creator Aleksandar Srdic on May 4

This sounds like a scam at this point.......total lack of compromise

Creator James Harvey on May 3

Hi,
I am a backer and my last update was number 19
Please can you update me on progress of Eyez and in particular
when shipment to me is due.
Regards,
James

Creator William Walker on May 2

@ Gary - Please disregard. I don't know how to read those apps.

Creator William Walker on May 2

@ Gary - Is your information recent? When I looked it up yesterday it said U.S. provisional application 61/449,594 - Transaction History says "date: 03-11-2012 --- EXPIRED PROVISIONAL"

Does that mean they gave up on the patent application too?

Creator Gary Shuster on April 29

The presence of patent applications (being prosecuted by a high end law firm, btw) means that there is at least one asset class that is available to satisfy a judgment against the patent application owner. So if there were to be a lawsuit, and if it resulted in a judgment against the patent application owner, the patent applications could be used to satisfy the judgment in whole or in part. I found three patent applications related to the one linked to be z-Tau below:

1. PCT/US/122573 -- A child application of 61/449,594. As a PCT filing, it can be used as the parent application for national stage applications in many different countries. I haven't searched for whether they have filed national stage applications yet. National stage applications are expensive (in English speaking nations) and super-expensive where translations are required, so that will be interesting to watch.
2. US application 13/411,270: This is a U.S. utility application. It is awaiting a first office action.
3. U.S. provisional application 61/449,594: This is a U.S. provisional application. It has expired, but is the parent of the other two applications. It is a very brief application and (in my opinion) is unlikely to support any meaningful claims in the other applications, so the priority filing date for this one is unlikely to end up being the priority date for the others.

You can research the patent status yourself at http://portal.uspto.gov

If you find "prior art", which for simplicity sake is material that a patent examiner might consider material to the patentability of the alleged inventions, it can be sent to the attorneys of record (look at the 13/411,270 application for the identities of the lawyers and their address) and the attorneys will be obligated, if it is indeed material, to provide it to the patent examiner. Issuing despite prior art being presented will make the patent stronger, but the prior art makes issuance less likely.

Just my opinion on the patent stuff here. But it does take the matter from one where there is a fear that all of the money might be gone to one where there is at least one asset class that is live and could satisfy part of a judgment if one could be obtained.

Creator Adam Chapin on April 25

wow, I missed the one year anniversary of the last time Eyez had an update

Creator Manny S on April 25

@ Zeyez: I pledged $150 for a pair of HD video recording glasses. I am not pleased with the lack of communication and the general feeling of being taken for a ride.

@ my fellow backers: I urge you to scroll down and hit the "contact" link, let Kickstarter know about your own personal experience with this project and your level of satisfaction with its progress.

Creator Chip Foley on April 22

@william registered as cfoley5446

Creator Iacopo Panozzo on April 22

@William registered on zionkick-forum.com with username bfoolish

Creator Joey Stanford on April 18

@William registered on zionkick-forum.com with username joey911

Creator Jeffrey Bastar on April 18

@William - registered on zionkick-forum.com with username jdbastar

Creator Brent Moore on April 17

@William - Registered on zionkick-forum.com with
username: Scammed
time: UTC Thursday, April 18, 2013 at 02:18

Creator cthomasian on April 17

@William - Registered on zionkick-forum.com with username cthomasian

Creator Sid B on April 16

@William - Registered on zionkick-forum.com at ~ Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:35 am UTC as 'sidb'

Creator z-Tau on April 12

Thanks for your reply William.

While I agree that I am often late to the party with many things, and thus am not quite as up to speed with whatever information you've all gained since the project was funded, I do not think the fact that I prefer to assume the best first before assuming the worst necessarily makes me more susceptible to being fleeced. I don't automatically trust people but I'm not certainly not accustomed to them blatantly lying to my face (as you are suggesting). My apologies if my limited knowledge of the situation came across as whitewashing. At any rate we've all ended up in the same boat, except in the amount of money we're each out of pocket.

The website you linked seems like a good idea, but I'm not so sure the veil of secrecy will be as effective as you think. I'm pretty sure most kickstarter projects are also backed by friends and family of the creators, so it would be easy for one of them to register to become privy to whatever information you've uncovered. The other notable drawback is that the (currently) +90% of backers who have not registered are left out of the loop. Until there is a way to get the great majority of people here working together on a plan of action, we limit our chances of a positive outcome and the speed with which it can be realised. All the same I don't want to trivialise the effort of someone going to the trouble of setting up a forum - it's definitely a step in the right direction. So I've signed up with the same username at 09:17 12th April 2013 UTC.

I for one am not about to let this slide, and given ZionEyez' continuing silence, taking action now seems the only sensible thing to do, and I hope others are encouraged to do the same.

Creator Milan van Oosten on April 11

registered on zionkick with the username milanvo

Creator William Walker on April 11

I think Carlos Becerra's goal is to file a basic patent and then become a patent troll. Hey Z-Tau, why not sign up to www.zionkick-forum.com and see what we compiled on these monkeys. Those "working prototype" glasses weren't even as good as what you could by from China for $75 at the time. As for "members" of the flip team, please take a closer look. They had ONE guy who might possibly have been employed short term in some minor capacity on the Flip. It was all fluff and puff. Please dig a little deeper before whitewashing the "team". Yeah, poor decisions...vacations in the sun when they should have been working. How does riding an elephant contribute to getting a project out on time? And how about that sparkler Carlos bought for his girlfriend? Have you read ALL of the comments here from page one on? How about all of the updates by Zioneyes? How about all the press releases? And the interviews? It was basic pump and dump strategy.

I ran into a guy I knew at college and we had a few drinks and caught up on what we had been doing. He told me how he got licensed to sell stocks (boiler room) and he was specializing in selling to people who had already been ripped off one or more times. I asked him why would he want those people. They seemed like, once burned, twice shy. He said it was actually easier than cold calling. You already knew they would buy a shady prospect. Now all he had to do was spend a little time letting them tell him their troubles and sympathizing with their problems and pretty soon he had their trust and made a sale. He said he was doing very well. From the way he was dressed, and the fact that he was buying, I think he was telling me the truth. He always had been a hustler. I think z-Tau would be a good prospect for him. (Just messing with you dude, sign up to the forum)

Oh, patents... A patent is simply a tool used for court battles. The way the Patent Office grants them now, a patent doesn't mean much of anything. Carlos is a kid barely out of law school. The big boys would run over him with a steam roller and he'd just be juice on the pavement. And personally, I didn't back them for getting a patent. I backed their offer of glasses. Where's the glasses?

Creator z-Tau on April 11

Well with a little digging with google, I found a patent ZionEyez applied for with respect to the glasses that was published on 13th September 2012. Link here - http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf…

Thus it seems they have progressed since their last update but appear to be just really bad at communicating with us. It seems unlikely to me that anybody trying to scam us from day one would create such a complex charade, going to the extent of registering a patent.

As for kickstarter not caring, it is in their business interests to care, since nobody would pledge anything if backers could not reliably expect what they pledge for to be delivered. It's just a matter raising sufficient awareness of the issue to everyone that the bad PR would force them to act.

Creator pol on April 11

z-Tau,
Yes, they legally obligated and yes, kickstarter should be acting. But believe or not, they don't care, neither kickstarter do.

Creator z-Tau on April 11

I find it hard to believe it was a fraud from day one. They clearly put a lot of effort into it, and the working prototype glasses I saw in the videos seemed pretty real to me. The fact they also had members in their team that had previously worked on the flip video camera. Colour me naive, but I'm not so quick as everyone else here seems to be to assume it was all a sham.

I'm more inclined to think they were a bunch of people with good intentions that were encouraged to reach further than they should have when the kickstarter overshot their funding goal by so much. They then made a series of increasingly poor decisions which led to them into a financial no-man's land that made them increasingly reluctant to share any of the bad news with us.

What I don't understand is why they haven't made a peep for a year now. If what you say is true, that still doesn't let them off the hook. According to the kickstarter terms they agreed to, they are legally obliged to either provide us with a finished product or some type of refund. And assuming nobody here has been able to make contact with them for so long, kickstarter should be acting on our behalf to track them down and do some legal arm-twisting.

Creator William Walker on April 10

Here's the team behind the Epiphany glasses. http://vergencelabs.com/people - I don't see the Zioneyez dickheads amongst them.

Why no update? It was fraud from the git-go. Anyone still asking that question has not taken the time to examine the evidence. Consider this one little item. They promised our glasses by "Winterr 2011". What did they have by that time. A junky pair of glasses that the ear pieces wouldn't even fold. Not 2,000 finished pair as shown in the pretty pictures.

Creator z-Tau on April 10

Why has there been no update for a year now? Has the ZionEyez Team been sucked into a black hole? Has anybody here been able to make contact with them to find out what's going on?

I've been patient but completely cutting off contact for so long with the people that *successfully* funded your project is far from professional. I don't care if all you have to share is bad news, just let us know you're still working on this and haven't forgotten about us or given up.

Creator cydodon on April 10

Registered on ZionKick with username cydodon

Creator Joe on April 9

Has anybody seen Epiphany Eyewear's glasses: http://www.epiphanyeyewear.com/. They look strangely familiar.

Creator William Walker on April 5

I guess I forgot to point out you have to sign up at www.zionkick-forum.com with the user ID you put on this comments page.

Creator William Walker on April 4

I let the Zionkick blog expire because when I paid for it for a year I thought I was getting a forum. Greezer set up www.zionkick-forum.com and it's for backers only. To sign up, put your user name right here in the comments page so we'll know you're an actual backer. If we do get a successful legal settlement you can bet that Wayne Wan will be right there with his hand out wanting his money back.

Creator Wayne Wan on April 4

Stop complaining, move on, order it from dhgate.com, it is only 105/pairs.

Creator Max Ziebell on April 4

And now even zionkick expired. What was that all about?

Creator Max Ziebell on April 4

Thats funny. This shows me how helpless backers are to anybody with bad intent to start with. Just rent some cubical set up some wires and a styrofoam "prototype" get enough backers to believe some crap and then take the money and take an extended trip to thailand.

Creator Martin Cousineau on April 3

registered on zionkick with username martincousy

Creator Steven Burlison on April 1

registered on zionkick with username steven burlison

Creator drink on March 30

any action, it seems I'll never got refund.

Creator anaya on March 29

registered zionkick: anaya

Creator Daniel Zen on March 26

Registered zionkick-forum.com with Username: danielzen

Creator Brad Galusha on March 24

I just registered for Zionkick with username bgalu.

Creator William Walker on March 22

@ Max Mocchi - I've gone back through the traffic to the 16th and cannot find "kickster". We had a software problem on the 19th and perhaps your request somehow got deleted. If you would please sign up again I'll keep a close eye out for "Kickster".

Thanks

Creator Jim Calkins on March 21

Can you register me on Zionkick as JimCalkins

Creator SpagettiArms on March 20

@Manny S
I just did. And I also encourage everyone to do the same.
Everyone should hit contact at the bottom of the page and message Kickstarter to remind them that we haven't forgotten about this project even if Zeyez has.

Creator Max Mocchi on March 20

. ty.

Creator Max Mocchi on March 20

Please register me on ZionKick as Kickster

Creator Manny S on March 19

Everyone should hit contact at the bottom of the page and message Kickstarter to remind them that we haven't forgotten about this project even if Zeyez has

Creator Swee-D Veliyath on March 19

Registered on ZionKick as Swee-D Veliyath 12:59 UTC

Creator Kay M Purcell on March 15

Registered on ZionKick as kpurcell Friday, 15 Mar 13 about 4:45 PM UTC-6
I have no idea what my "username" is on Kickstarter; my screen name is Kay M Purcell.

Creator sbryson on March 12

Registered on ZionKick as sbryson Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:36 am

Creator Mark Hogan on March 12

Registered on ZionKick as MarkHogan 3-12-2012 7:39AM UTC-8

Creator SpagettiArms on March 11

Registered on ZionKick as SpagettiArms (11/03/2013 12h40)