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Update #10: Update Ten
Hi,
This is going to be the last update on Kickstarter.
We have pretty much moved on to lasersaur.com and commenced the beta phase about 10 days ago.
If you are a beta supporter and haven't received an invite to the mailing list please let us know and we'll send out another one.
Update #9: Update Nine

The good news is, we are now onto v0.3 of the Lasersaur system!
Check out the video! (and http://log.lasersaur.com for ongoing build documentation)
There is still some waiting for parts (specifically limit switch mounts, laser tube mounts, paneling etc) until what we hope will be the final testing before we can finalize the alpha kits! The goal is for the kits to be shipped to backers by mid-March and have the community up and running sometime around then as well. The time then, is near!
Now, some details and versions updates:
First and most exciting perhaps is the actual laser has arrived! (oh how we love them):
We decided to do our initial testing with a 40W tube, it will cut enough to tell whats working and not, but isn’t strong enough to burn down to our neighbors below. Surprisingly, it shipped super fast, taking only four days to arrive from mainland China--quite phenomenal... This makes us quite confident that the 100W tubes will be quite painless to source as well.
As you can see, it sort of looks like a transparent missile, so we are going to give China cred for that one: 
Also, in order to speed up testing we went ahead and ordered a water chiller. It uses a fan to cool the water as it is pumped through a long helical pipe. This should work well until we design our own water chiller.
We also updated the idler shafts. The older v0.2 idler shaft on the left, new one on the right (using cantilever pin with retaining ring)
Next you can see the new v0.3 drive shaft. They connect the y-axis stepper to the left and right drive belt. There is a step from 8mm to 6mm which makes positioning the ball bearing trivial and hopefully eliminates a possible building error.
Also, SOFTWARE: Finally, the first lines of firmware have been written and the the bare bone gantry is moving sweetly. So we have started writing some code, talking about it and so on and so fourth. Due to overwhelming push from the community we decided to use GCode as the core protocol. Developing different ways of talking to the system will be based off of that and we are very open to more input on this... We also feel the machine should handle dxf and svg files directly (thoughts? discuss.)
And, if you are still with us, we decided to send some schwag along with the kits, so look out for a little extra something something to feed your inner Lasersaur with . . .
More soon...(er).
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nortd on February 4, 2011
hey justin, thanks for the links. We just tested the new grbl accelleration code and were quite happy with it - so that part is cool. I am not entirely sure about the stepper controllers. Does the TinyG have microstepping and resonance tuning? I might come to a different conclusion in the end but at the moment think these features are quite important to reduce jitter of the laser beam. Still open to suggestions ...
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nortd on February 4, 2011
seems like the DRV8811 on the tinyg supports up to 8-microsteps ... maybe worth testing with the lasersau. So the tinyg is a fully open source design? Is anybody offering kits/assembled boards or would we have to put these together ourselves?
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Justin Shaw on February 6, 2011
I re-asked your questions to Alden Hart. TinyG is an off shoot of GBRL, so I'm gussing the code is open source. Not sure about the hardware.
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Update #8: Update Eight
Update #7: Update Seven
Update #6: It's On
Friends, Backers, Community-
Let the real fun begin.
We’ve had a few weeks of ordering parts for our prototype, have started to work out the design, and plans for the Alpha kits. We’ve already received some shipments and have been geeking out beyond measure in our lair.


We're super excited to be working on the Lasersaur. Consider us hired! We expected the funding we received to come mostly from our immediate community and a handful of generous believers. We ended up being funded over 200% by individuals worldwide who share the vision of open souce fabrication. Rock!
As we go we will be posting updates on the kickstarter page as well as at the following url which is the new home of the project:
With 300+ supporters we feel we should get the conversation going soon. Please stand by as we prepare the grounds for this group of people to come together. Collaboration FTW!
We have had a lot of people want to support this project since it closed. If you are one, please contact us- we have lots of ways you can continue to support and help the Lasersaur.
We want laser cutters and personal fabrication systems to be as mainstream as desktop printers. To us this is a worthy goal because it lays the grounds for wide-spread open source hardware. For all of you who came along we hope you’re excited as we are. We are looking forward to geeking out with all of you and building a solid machine.
More soon,
Cut on!
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Rimeian on September 16, 2010
3k sounds rather expensive. Have you heard of this project?
http://builders.reprap.org/2010/08/selective-laser-sintering-part-8.htmlPerhaps something like that could be done to make it cheaper, even if it works very slowly.
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Architect on December 22, 2010
Man, I wish I knew about this earlier, I would've backed you up guys right away.
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Update #5: Update Five
T minus 2 weeks! We are very glad to see such enormous interest and are excited to get the project out to the community.
We have had a chance to talk to a lot of you and are currently finalizing the specs. We are designing for a 1250x750mm (49x29") cutting area with the option to push through long work pieces and cut in multiple steps.
We are aiming for a lot of flexibility when it comes to installing different kinds of lasers. We want to have the possibility to install anything from low powered lasers to compact high-performance RF lasers and large-scale DC laser tubes. The frame configuration we came up with scales nicely and will natively be able to mount <1.8m tubes.
Our current timeline is set to start the Alpha stage by the end of the year. A few month later we will move on with the Beta stage and no later than summer 2011 this project should go fully open source with all the documentation nicely packaged and illustrated (with a legendary community).
The Kickstarter funding runs until July 8. If you haven't yet but want to become part of the community of early adopters, now is your chance! Please consider pledging and getting Alpha or Beta access. Your contribution will help the community and the mission of open source goodness tremendously.
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Jack on June 25, 2010
Suggestion for longer term (hey, finish one project before expanding the scope. ... scope creep can be a project killer)...
Make available design options so that the laser could be fitted onto currently existing CNC machines. Shopbots (shopbottools.com) are a commercial, and Mechmate.com has a free (but not open source) large format CNC machine for using with routers or spindles. Large format in this case are 4'x8' and some implementations are larger. Z depth is typically 6 to 8", but can be more or less depending on the implementation. ... Hey, on the Mechmate just mounting a laser instead of a router would be the 'easy way' to do it!
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nortd on July 1, 2010
Thanks for the feedback. We can probably get better performance and a lower price point by specifically designing for a laser system/flying optics.
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Sam Ley on July 9, 2010
Indeed - keep it simple! CNC routers have to be optimized for high torque, lower speed, which is the opposite principle for moving optics - building a Mechmate, then retrofitting laser on, would be a dramatically more expensive way to go about it. I already have a DIY cnc router (48"x48"), a Joe's Hybrid CNC design, and while I've fantasized about adding other features to it, every time I look at the costs and compromises, I come back to it being a better deal all around to build a separate unit for laser.
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Update #4: Alpha Kit Update
Thanks everybody for pledging! Lasersaur is quickly developing a strong community and we're looking forward to what awesome things are going to be made from the community of users.
This is just a quick update on the Alpha Kit. We have had quite a few people who want to get started with building the Lasersaur as soon as possible (which is rad). This means the community will get started as soon as we complete testing of the first prototype, compile all the documentation and send out the Alpha Kits. We are hoping there will be quite some synergism, tinkering and good discussion from people starting to build at the same time. We already have a great community of like-minded developers who have come together as a result of our kickstarter who are willing to lend their expertise in all areas. This will be fun!
We also had a chance to narrow down the details of the kit content. We basically want to include all the custom parts plus a lot of smaller otherwise tedious-to-source parts (like ball bearings, screws, plugs, and cables). Also, definitely expect the Lasersaur custom controller board and custom assembly pieces in the kit. For all the remaining parts (laser tube, frame/case, and stepper motors) we will provide supplier lists and plans. Initially we will make sure that parts can be easily sourced in the US and Europe and hope we can extent the lists for worldwide sourcing as we go.
If you have questions feel free to message us directly through kickstarter. (We'll trying to get back to you within a few days)
Update #3: Update Three
This looks like a resounding go! We are super excited!
Thanks to your support this will be the summer of the Lasersaur.
Addie did an interview with Makezine. It has lots of good questions and answers. Check it out: Makezine Interview
Ok, back to the secret lair, I feel I have work to do ...
Update #2: Update Two
Thanks everyone for your support! We're already past 50% funded! Sweet!
We are super excited to start the build process and get the alpha out to the community ASAP.
The last few days we have had a pretty lively discussion on the various gantry assemblies. We have homed in on a custom designed assembly that can roll on standard t-slot aluminum extrusion. This would have several advantages. It's cheaper, easier to source worldwide, and simpler to assemble. We are also looking into special v-rail, t-slot systems, assuming they are widely sourcable they could be exactly the answer to the system.
We are also playing with a modified RepRap approach and believe this could be unbeatable. We like how they constrain motion. This with timing belts might meet all the requirements to make this easy, cool, and repeatable.
More updates to follow soon! Please feel free to comment with any suggestion or feedback, they are very helpful for the community.
Keep spreading the word!
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Dr. Russ Reiss on May 31, 2010
Were you planning on moving the laser itself? Back when I was toying with making such a device, it seemed attractive to leave the laser fixed in one position and move some mirrors (lightweight, easy to move) to position the beam where you want to cut. Would enjoy seeing any drawings of your current concepts.
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Mark Adams on June 1, 2010
One possibility you might be interested in is the TinyG project, being developed by folks at the HacDC hackerspace in Washington, DC. (See https://www.synthetos.com/wiki/index.php... ) It is an open source embedded microcontroller/motor driver project which takes CNC GCODE directly via serial/USB and converts it to motion on as many as four axes per board. It supports a wide range of stepper motors, and is being tested in a 2.5D CNC milling machine. The end-user costs are likely to be well below 100$/board for everything, including the motion control and motor drivers. This would greatly simplify the design and development of the architecture, and make it easy to preserve the multi-platform integration, too.
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Update #1: Update One
Hi everybody, We have received a lot of positive feedback and are super excited to find so many like-minded people. Obviously there is a certain style to making this project happen. A large part is technical but the other part is bringing interested people together and producing killer documentation. In the end this is about demystifying a technology and making laser cutters simple (read: cheap, stackable and awesome).
We will be posting updates and details as we go. To start things off, here is a diagram of the basic Lasersaur components. We are looking at using OSC over Ethernet as the main interface of the machine. This might be surprising but has the big advantage that it will make it super simple to talk to the machine from all kinds of computers and programming languages. Rather than thinking of it as a device where you load your files to for cutting we want to push the idea of thinking of it as a robotic extension.
What this means is direct control from software in real-time. While we are big on having lightweight Blender and Rhino plugins we also want to be able to easily control the machine with any custom app (think Processing, OpenFrameworks, VirtualAwesome). Currently we are working on hooking up a tablet which controls Lasersaur in real-time.
In the diagram there is also something called the "Lasersaur App". It is an open source cross-platform app with bare essentials for cutting design files. As for the types of supported files we still haven't narrowed our choices down (but welcome request). Check back as we will post more details of the Lasersaur App soon.
Please keep spreading the word, blog, twitter, facebook. The project depends on your support and belief in livin' the dream.
Thanks again for your interest!
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Antivigilante Renaissance on May 28, 2010
I'm a renaissance-anary!
I do documentation. I'd love to help.
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