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280 backers
A fold-up spectrometer attachment for your smartphone. Ships flat -- you cut it out and assemble it.
Estimated delivery: Nov 2012Pledge $35 or more
612 backers
A proven and tested "desktop" USB spectrometry kit which you assemble inside of a VHS box. 400-900 nanometer range and 3-10 nm resolution. (please add $10 for international shipping)
Estimated delivery: Dec 2012Pledge $65 or more
235 backers
An experimental "backpack" which clips to your Android phone's camera and turns it into a spectrometer. If more than 250 backers want this, we pledge to develop a native iPhone app as well. (please add $10 for international shipping)
Estimated delivery: Feb 2013Pledge $100 or more
282 backers
All three of the above, as they become available (please add $60 for international shipping)
Estimated delivery: Feb 2013Pledge $200 or more
5 backers
A "Classroom pack" of 6 desktop spectrometry kits for teachers and those of you who just can't get enough spectra! Please add $40 for international shipping.
Estimated delivery: Dec 2012Pledge $300 or more
38 backers
A fully-assembled and calibrated "countertop" model with Pyrex sample dishes and a full-spectrum lamp. Would look great in a coffeeshop, a wine bar, an exhibit or classroom. (please add $40 for international shipping)
Estimated delivery: Feb 2013Pledge $400 or more
50 backers
All four -- countertop, desktop kit, mobile, and papercraft spectrometers -- please add $100 for international shipping, as we'll be shipping these separately.
Estimated delivery: Feb 2013Pledge $1,000 or more
3 backers Limited (2 of 5 left)
This completely egregious "steampunk" spectrometer is made from polished aluminum, brass, and finely finished, laser engraved wood. It's functionally identical to the "countertop" model, but has enough polish to make Isambard Kingdom Brunel proud. Don't back this unless you are a) feeling sooo rad or b) trying to support the Public Lab nonprofit.
Estimated delivery: Feb 2013
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Show older commentsCreator Brett Trout 3 days ago
Great. Thanks for the update.
Creator Brett Trout 4 days ago
Jeffrey, any update on the backpacks? About five weeks ago you mentioned scrambling to resolve some molding issues. I was just wondering if there was another update.
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on May 8
Indeed - and i think that you might come up with a way to not introduce any material in the beam path at all -- say, a hole in the shelf through which light passes could work if you know exactly what sample containers you'll be using.
Creator Joseph C. Ellett on May 7
Marvelous, Jeffrey. Thank you. Those photos and list show that the countertop base uses very inexpensive off the shelf components, except for the stage, and I have some window glass and a glass cutter, so I'm thinking that might be an alternative.
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on May 5
Yes! Posted here: http://publiclab.org/notes/warren/04-17-2013/final-countertop-spectrometer-design
Creator Joseph C. Ellett on May 4
Any instructions available for the countertop unit? I'd like to convert my wife's desktop model to a countertop, or build another. Thanks.
Creator Brett Trout on April 18
Great. Thanks for the update.
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on April 16
Hi, Brett - we had some final molding issues related to how the screws holes work, and are scrambling this week to resolve them and start the manufacturing. Apologies again for the delays, this is our first injection molding project and the feedback loop has been a bit slow.
You can see the *almost complete* design posted by Brad here: https://groups.google.com/forum/…
We're super eager as well to finish this, not least because once we do the first run of them, it will be easy to make lots more from the molds. Updates as soon as we can!
Creator Brett Trout on April 16
Any update on the backpack?
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on February 22
They're coming along slowly!! It'll work with the iPhone 5, no worries.
Molding issues, etc. Update soon!
Creator Robert Bolling on February 22
Any word on the iPhone backpack? I've now got an iPhone5 and hope I haven't upgraded my out of running.
Creator David Gapen on February 5
Apologies. Just saw the individual due date, will keep hugging my mailbox!
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on February 5
David -- we're checking on it and will get back to you directly.
Creator David Gapen on February 5
Hi! Been checking the mail for a fold up spectrometer the past few weeks, haven't received it, is there an avenueiI can use to checked if its been shipped?
Creator Rolf-Dieter Klein on January 22
perfect got it out of the custom
Creator Rolf-Dieter Klein on January 17
My 2nd reward shipping is stuck at the custom - I sent a PM - urgent need of a commercial invoice to get it out there !
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on January 11
Hi, Joyce - nope, that's just about preorders of the $35-level reward. We set a ship date of Feb 2013 so shipping those doesn't distract from shipping our $65 and $300 and $1000-level rewards.
Paul - great to hear!! Post some spectra when you have a chance!
Creator Planetary Paul on January 11
Just received my fold-up spectrometer! I'll have some practice separating DVD's first......
Creator Joyce Miletic on January 11
Hi, I have not recieved my $65 backpack yet, but there are posts here about sending out post kickstarter spectrometers in Feb. Did I miss a survey or something??
Creator Planetary Paul on January 4
Roger, I'll be patient a bit more (difficult ;-)......
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on January 4
Hi Paul, all of the desktop spectrometers shipped during the week of December 17th and the mini-foldable ones shipped the week of the 10th, but I'd imagine they might have been slowed down because of the holidays. If you don't receive yours in the next week or so, please let us know. Thanks, Shannon (Public Lab staff)
Creator Planetary Paul on January 4
Hi All, best wishes for 2013!
Any word on delivery dates of kit to The Netherlands?
Gr, Paul.
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on December 30
Hi Lee,
The experimental backpack and the countertop spectrometer have estimated delivery dates of February 2013. The mini-foldable and desktop versions shipped in early December. Once we get closer to releasing the backpack version, we'll make sure to post backpack specific updates. Thanks, Shannon (Public Lab staff)
Creator Lee Correll on December 30
Hi there! Any update on the experimental backpack, or did I miss something?
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on December 22
Hi Jodi, There are a couple of different options for asking questions. First, there is a great Google Group of people that are working with the spectrometer (both newbies and folks with some experience). I'd suggest you post a question to this group (https://groups.google.com/forum/…). Second, on the website, we use research notes. On publiclaboratory.org you'll see a red box in the upper right hand corner that says "post a note". This is a good option if you have images that you want to show while you're troubleshooting. Thanks, Shannon from the Public Lab staff
Creator Jodi Smith on December 21
Hmmm, I'm trying to assemble mine. The VHS box seems to have mutated into a conduit box -- which is ok, BUT -- the instructions say to "press the imaging slit against the hole in the box as shown", while the end of the box is curved so the slit doesn't fit tightly against the hole. The link to "http://publiclaboratory.org/wiki/spectrometry-faq" goes to "page does not exist." "http://publiclaboratory.org/wiki/spectral-workbench-help#faq" answers some questions, but not mine. You would think that SOMEWHERE on the Public Lab site there would be a place to post a question, but I can't find that place. So, how do I ask a question?
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on December 21
I implemented this feature roughly (just choosing between desktop kit and foldable and "custom" spectrometer for now) this morning, and we can use the tags to infer or even ask more information like grating type etc. in the future. I tested it but give it a whirl and tell me what you think!
https://twitter.com/SpectralWB/status/282159957288288256
Test: http://spectralworkbench.org/analyze/spectrum/2149
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on December 21
Hi, lxchel - good thinking and we appreciate your concern. There's a discussion about this issue on the spectrometry mailing list here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/…
Basically we are planning to ask people about their devices at the point of capture, as you suggest. We also have the opportunity to extract lots of information about the camera for image uploads by looking at EXIF tags.
I do think it would be nice to have all these features now, but we can always prompt people who log in later to identify their device and apply it to their old data with a convenient form. But don't worry, we'll be adding the "device id" feature as soon as we can.
Please join in the discussion - we'd be very glad to have your input in the Public Lab spectrometry community! You can sign up on the "plots-spectrometry" list here: http://publiclaboratory.org/user/register
In addition to sharing your ideas with many others working on open spectrometry, you also get credited for your contributions on the site.
Creator Ixchel on December 21
Hi. I just wanted to raise an issue that's been concerning me for a while.
I understand that you are still in the process of trying to figure out how to calibrate spectra so that spectra from different people will appear the same regardless of differences in equipment. (http://publiclaboratory.org/notes/tomh/9-19-2012/intensity-calibration). However, now that you have sent out lots of spectrometers, you will soon be receiving lots and lots of additions of spectrum data to your database. This data is going to arrive before you have your intensity calibration procedure figured out. The problem is that when new data is added to the database, there is currently no record whatsoever of what kind of equipment was used to take that record.
This means that the information necessary to do an after-the-fact calibration is simply unavailable, so that once you DO finally figure out a calibration procedure, and have a way to do intensity normalization of your data for each type of equipment, there will be no way to apply that normalization retroactively to the data that you already have in the database. That uncalibrated data in the database will basically be useless, and will probably end up getting thrown away, because there is no way to know what intensity-mapping function(s) should be used to normalize it. Consequently, nobody but the person who added a spectrum to the database can measure anything else against that spectrum's data.
This problem is not necessary. All you need to do to fix it is to ensure that when someone adds each new spectrum to the database, that they also at the same time record some details about their equipment. In particular, the type of camera/CCD they were using (defines brightness=f(wavelength, intensity)), the type of diffraction grating they were using (possibly having absorption lines from whatever type of plastic it uses, which will suppress some part of the spectrum?), and any other relevant settings (exposure levels? exposure time?) that would affect the CCD's record of the light intensity at some or all wavelengths, and how that maps to actual light levels. Stating something about the horizontal resolution (1 pixel=10nm or whatever) and the slit size and distance might possibly be a good idea also, in case someone wants to later run a deconvolution algorithm (a sharpening filter) on the data to try to remove some of the blur from the slit width.
For instance, if I were to take a sample with the foldable spectrometer and my iPhone, I could annotate it (by choosing from a pre-populated drop-down list?) that it is a first-generation iPhone 4 (and hence uses the type of CCDs that those contain), and that the DVD I am using is the one that you supplied with the foldable spectrometers (with whatever absorption spectrum those are known to have due to the type of plastic they are made of), and the exposure and shutter speed that were used. (Hopefully there will either be a way to suppress auto-exposure and auto-shutter-speed to ensure that results are consistent when taking the photo regardless of light levels, or a way to compensate for those factors after the image is taken.) Conversely, if I were to take a sample with my new desktop spectrometer, I should record that I am using the default SYBA webcam you supplied with them, etc. etc.
If this hardware information is kept in the database, in a machine-understandable form (i.e. not letting people type whatever they want, but forcing them to choose from a limited set of known values when possible), then the data in the database can be retroactively calibrated/normalized. Someone else can later go through the database and use an "iphone 4" normalization function, with appropriate parameters for exposure and shutter length, to transform my first set of data into a normalized form, and can use an "SYBA webcam" normalization function to do the same for the second set of data, and would hopefully find two nearly-identical spectra even though two different pieces of hardware were used to gather it.
Please note that this is somewhat of an urgent issue, since people will rapidly begin adding large amounts of data to the database. Without a solution for this, the GIGO principle ("garbage in -> garbage out") will ensure that most attempts to do mathematical analysis on the data within the database will produce very poor results, since samples from different people will have "noise" due to their differing equipment, and there will be no way to mathematically eliminate that noise.
Creator Paul Slusser on December 19
I received my $35 spectrometer kit and I must say that I am very impressed by the hack! Lots of fun! My first goal is to work out a simple compatible sample/ light holder because this is the most needed thing with the present design. Very happy about the choice to go with conduit, should make the hacked sample holder easier to attach to it. I will be sure to share it when I have something workable. Simply amazed by the quality of data/dollar!
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on December 11
Apologies for the slow response! We've been incredibly busy:
- Designing and printing assembly instructions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffreywarren/8261762352/
- Redesigning and improving http://SpectralWorkbench.org (check it out! still in progress)
- Creating a fallback solution (which is quite good actually) for iPhones, iPads and non-Opera browsers on phones and tablets: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffreywarren/8256939558/
...and, of course, packing spectrometers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffreywarren/8253457628/
To answer your question, Juan: the survey was confusingly worded. BOTH the $65 "backpack" and the $10 foldable mini-spectrometer attach to your smartphone. The $10 one which is shipping very shortly is made of black cardstock and folds up into a spectrometer. The $65 version is a rigid plastic attachment which, although it works in the same way, will be far more rugged and will arrive already assembled.
The reason we asked is that some people wanted both! So they would have pledged a sum total of $75. Again, sorry for the confusion.
We will be shipping everything via USPS, and will begin shipping post-Kickstarter orders in February. So you'll be able to get a foldable one a little later than everyone who did back it. Thanks!!
Creator Juan Levy on November 28
Jeffrey: A bit confused here.
You write "At the $65 reward tier, some of you added in $10 to receive a smartphone spectrometer attachment which we are preparing to ship. For those who did not, we're still running on time with the "experimental backpack" for an estimated delivery in February."
(a) I dont remember seeing any mention of this $10 add nor a description of the smartphone attachment as different and distinct from the "backpack". Please clarify.
(b) once you clarify and if we, at the $65 level, want this attachment (different than the "backpack"), can we still do it?
Also, by what method will you be shipping? If via US Postal Service then P.O. Box shipping addresses work (preferred, in my case), otherwise need to use street address.
Thanks!
Creator Brian Holme on November 16, 2012
any way to still order the usb kit?
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on November 6, 2012
Edmond: since those are shipping in Feb, we haven't finalized the design yet, but we're trying to make sure they'll work on 230v. We can't make any promises yet though -- worst case, they'll need an inverter.
Jodi: pretty soon -- Kickstarter recommends we wait until the last minute in case somebody moves... kind of funny but not unlikely with 1600 backers. What level reward are you?
Creator Jodi Smith on October 29, 2012
When can we expect to be contacted about shipping information? (My spam filter sometimes removes messages from Kickstarter, and won't let me change the settings, so I always worry that I will miss something important.)
Creator Edmond Quah on October 25, 2012
For the countertop model, can it use 230V 50hz power? If not i think i need a voltage converter?
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on October 6, 2012
Thanks everyone! More info coming soon but if you missed out you can still register interest in our first 3 rewards. We'll be doing something more official soon but just enter your email here and we'll be in touch:
http://publiclaboratory.org/wiki/spectrometer-preorders
Creator Stuart Williams on October 5, 2012
thanks heaps for making spectral workbench available and for developing it. I've made my own spectrometer following the instructions but the key for me was the software. I intend to use it for educational use and I see lots of prospects here. Compared to the many hundreds of dollars for an off the shelf machine, this is just way to cool for words. thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, you are also awesome. stu
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on October 4, 2012
Yes, Ken, it most def. is! Thanks David! Lauri - check out some possibilities we're compiling here: http://publiclaboratory.org/wiki/spectral-analysis
Creator Lauri Dahl on October 4, 2012
Honestly, I have no idea what to do with a spectrometer or why I would need one but it just sounds like a cool project so that is why I became a backer. Good luck!
Creator David Nichols on October 4, 2012
Woot! Stretch goal met!
Creator Ken Clarke on October 3, 2012
Thanks David.
Creator David Nichols on October 3, 2012
Ken: The iOS version is a go. Check out Jeffrey's update for more details: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jywarren/public-lab-diy-spectrometry-kit/posts/303773
Creator Erin C on October 3, 2012
Hello Jeffrey! This is a very exciting project and I can't wait to see how it progresses. I wish I could back more than just $35 but I'll tell my nerdy friends about it. This project should excite all scientists and researchers. Best of luck!
Creator Ken Clarke on October 2, 2012
Hi Jeffrey,
I just backed at the $65 level, in the hopes that and iPhone version is in the works now (since there are 450+ backers at the combined $65 and $100 levels). Could you clarify, is the iPhone version definately coming?
Also, I work in remote sensing, and this is an awesome idea, and you are awesome.
Creator Edmond Quah on October 1, 2012
Thanks for your answer!
Creator Jeffrey Yoo Warren on October 1, 2012
Hi, all! Sorry, been a bit slow answering comments due to MakerFaire and Open Hardware Summit.
Andrew - Sorry, i missed your comment, I was looking only in the comments on my Update. There will be more sample collection trips as well as sample prep and spectrometry sessions. Please join the plots-nyc mailing list at http://publiclaboratory.org to stay involved!
Bracken - video walkthroughs are definitely planned, and I also hope others in our open source community produce how-to videos for specific tasks. Part of the reason they only exist for "setup" and "calibration" stages is that we are only in the first steps of the "analysis" stage of the work. Expect more to come as we progress, and join in where you can! We are learning as fast as we can together at http://publiclaboratory.org
Edmond - I'm sorry - although we made a mistake on the $100 reward (intn'l shipping for that is only $20 now) the $400 reward will require $100 in shipping/handling as we'll be sending each item out when it's ready, rather than as a batch. We're doing it this way to get the earlier rewards to you faster!
Johan, thanks so much! We're getting there...
Creator Johan Sosa on October 1, 2012
i increased my pledge by $30 and told my friends about it online & off. If everyone did that we'd blast through the stretch goal.
Creator Edmond Quah on September 30, 2012
The international shipping or the 400usd should be 60usd instead of 100usd? Can you please confirm this? Thanks!
Creator Rolf-Dieter Klein on September 30, 2012
A great project, very interested as I have to do a lot with professional (high cost) spectrometers.