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After graduating from Royal Military College, and working in the Australian army for 7 years, I moved on to web software development. For the last 3 years I've been developing iOS & Android apps. In 2011 I designed a number of toys that use the smartphone as a brain and have licensed those designs to toy companies. The latest product is the jaja stylus.
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It's getting so close! I hate to sound like a broken record, but are we still getting to pick colors?
Hi Simon,
Thanks for taking the time to critique. :-)
The JaJa pack shape is actually different now, that extruded tube was the first idea. It is smaller and more angular now. What you see as external printed card is actually a matt stick on film, so we can supply multiple languages easily using the same tube.
Printing card and putting it inside the tube makes it difficult to read in a brightly lit environment. Point taken on exposing the full product. Retail pack and online ordered packs will differ. The eco card on the inside is moulded, and should look pretty good, not sure on color yet - it might be white. Something like this: http://www.greenerpackage.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/inline_max/Straus.jpg
The box for the AppTag unit has already changed a fair bit. The size issue you mention is mostly the photo angle, the design is a work in progress. The hole in the back is so you can grab the grip - the hole above will have some special images in it to show the phone. The back has screenshots of the apps. The eggshell print you see is actually heavy recycled card as well - and it's probably the photo that makes it look washed out.
The apptag box is a starting point.
Once again thanks for your input - and I'll take you up on the coffee when next in Shanghai - my shout! :-)
Hi Jon & Alex,
Thanks for the update. If you guys are going to be in Shanghai, it would be so cool to grab a coffee. Just sayin' ;-)
As for your latest update, the AppTag and JaJa products look good. Since you asked for it, here are some comments regarding the packaging.
JaJa:
1) Kill the unbleached 'natural' color cardboard. It's clashing w/ the color of the product, and it looks cheap. You're selling a tech innovation. Look like it. Also, since you're using plastic as well as printed outer cardboard, there's no point in trying to imply an eco friendly message.
2) IF you kill the unprinted inner cardboard and replace w/ printed full color, you can kill the excess cardboard on the outside of the plastic box.
3) Redesign the inner cardboard to show more of the entire product. Consumers will want to see the entire pen, including the cap. The less of the product you show, the more likely the consumer will have a harder time making the decision to purchase.
4) Packaging is generally larger than necessary. Could you do w/ something simpler with less material? What about a die cut, full bleed printed cardboard fold-over, with a thermoformed PET blister window? How about a plastic test tube? The Wacom Bamboo stylus does it Apple style, w/ a clean cardboard box w/ a lovely full color photo of the product on a crisp white background. It may be trite, but it fits well into the Apple-verse visual design language.
AppTag:
1) Packaging looks a little wider than necessary, but I suppose that's what it takes to be stable on a store shelf. That's an awful lot of clear plastic though. Might want to triple check that your Chinese supplier isn't planning on using PVC. Sub PET instead if you must.
2) Kickstarter backers will understand it instantly, but new customers who've never been exposed to the concept might need something more obvious to tell them what it is. Where is the iPhone mockup docked in the gun?
3) You guys seem to be paying for full color printing, so why so conservative w/ the colors? The cream / eggshell background color is not especially appealing. It's not tech-y, it's not militaristic, it's not toy-like. It doesn't send a strong brand message.
4) Where are the full color photos or illustrations that clearly educate the user and demonstrate the wicked fun to be had?
5) Is the packaging 360 degree proof? What's holding the product in place if the cartons are loaded in the container upside down?
Well, those are the thoughts coming off the top of my head. Hope you don't take my comments as anything other than constructive criticism. I'm a fan, and I look forward to receiving my JaJa in the near future.
Cheers!
Simon
Hi Folks,
It's about to get very exciting. so while updates might have been scant over the last few weeks, that's all about to change. We're off to China in 10 days and expect lots of pics after that. Then visiting LA for E3 and San Francisco to visit a few largish companies there.
Nothing very exciting to share at present, more to come soon.
Thanks
Jon
I'm fine with a project taking a while, and supplier problems are unavoidable. But I would really like more frequent updates.
Less than half, isn't it? I mean, it will be 89.99 US straight out, but the backers who chose the 40.00 US option get one. My biggest thing is the pressure sensitivity working with my android tablet. If it takes another extra month or so to make sure that this stylus works with Sketchbook Pro for Android devices, fine. That means I didn't spend 40 bucks on a stylus for nothing.
Guys and dolls, stop whining, if you want something that does not work I am sure you can get it now, want something that works great then have patience. Jon can not control his suppliers just like he can not control the weather. I am anxious too, but this item seems worth the wait especially since I am paying so much less than when it goes retail.
He did push it back to late June in the latest update, Carol. I'd like to hear something about the product soon, considering that they were supposed to get the final prototype the friday following this update. I'm just really, really excited about this thing...
I glanced through the status updates - it looks like the last shipping update is third week of May. It that correct or is there an update I missed?
Please give status update with more frequency. Very important when one is past due on the original delivery date. Thanks.
i think the nibs will be sent out together with the stylus (otherwise we need to pay more shipping , right?)
can you show us the final prototype?
thanks
I am just wondering what's going on with the nibs... Apart from any electronic components, I would have thought this would have shipped on time in March. It was also not mentioned in the latest update. Jon, can you respond please?
Kind of piggybacking on RonD, here. A list of supported apps for both iPad and Android devices would be awesome.
@Jon
I read a question recently on the web, about whether the use of sound by the JAJA would affect the performance of other mic/sound related or using apps or music etc. Would you please comment on that? Does it interfere with the performance of other apps?
Separately, what art apps will the JAJA support or be supported by?
touché...
WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST MORE FREQUENT UPDATES, SO YOU DON'T SURPRISE US ANYMORE...
Could be worse... you could be trying to get any relevant information regarding Adonit's pressure sensitive stylus. At least here, we're getting updates that offer explanations as to why things are delayed instead of being asked to set aside money for a product we've been told precious little about. Am bummed about the setback, but I'm still very hopeful for this product.
Yeah, you're right. Pointing out my lack of kickstarter activity will fix the issue...and I didn't say on kickstarter..
My whole point is that waiting until we're expecting shipments to tell us we're another 2 months out, plus not verifying part availability before promising a 'final ship date' is a little less than professional IMO. Still looking forward to my stylus, just disappointed in some of the process so far.
So long as it works with sketchbook pro on my tablet and I get it sometime this summer, I'm happy. Bonus points if I can get the stylus in a sapphire or emerald color...
@David Ramsey, I'm sorry you feel that way. I see that you haven't in fact backed any other Kickstarter projects, nor have you created any...
I'll take full responsibility for the delay. I specified a unique part for the pressure sensor and we designed around it, I got a quote for 100,000 units last October and the supplier didn't mention any quantity issues at the time. The only option would have been to somehow totally redesign our electronics and ship even later! So I'm not sure amateurish is very fair - if I'd had the cash, I would have preordered the sensors last year... but then there would have been no point in launching on Kickstarter. Most of our backers want a quality product that works, and that is what you will get.
It's projects like this that make me wonder why I support any other starter companies.. This is the 2nd 'no more delays' update, and after this one we're another 2 months out. And picking an internal component without prior consideration for available quantities is a bit amateurish... Sorry guys, but this update stinks...
Hello. Could we have an update, please?
When is the backer shipment date?
I feel like a kid who's been told that they get to go to the toy store if they're good while their parents run the LONGEST ERRANDS EVER. It's so close that I'm really starting to get antsy!
John, if you haven't made contact with the guys at FiftyThree, please do! Their Paper app (Paper by FiftyThree in the App store) is a tremendously well-designed drawing/creation tool. Well worth your time to check out at http://www.fiftythree.com/.
Would be a great fit with the jaja.
Any word on color choice voting or any of that?
Any news regarding android app compatibility? I'm dying to know if I can use this thing for Autodesk Sketchbook on my tablet...
Updates?
Make it magnetic like the adonit if possible!
Hi I opted for the $125 offer but would like to add some spare nibs so I can use one of my mechanical pencils with them is it possible to add them now the project has been funded ??
Any updates on the JAJA stylus?
when can we add the 10 dollars for international shipping.
Just got my first iPad ever, the new iPad.
just downloaded Procreate, but it's hard to draw with my big fingers :-)
Are we still doing the color questionnaire?
@Jon That center of balance sounds good. It wouldn't be hard for backers to test that out by making a simple mockup themselves.
The stylus is 141mm long, plus the cap if you want to optionally add that to the top end while using the stylus - its 22.8mm.
The center of balance is around 80mm from the drawing tip, that is below where the webbing of your hand supports the stylus.
WRT questions on balance etc - we have industrial designers working on this with a LOT of experience - and they are artists themselves.
@Jon, Good to hear that the balance has been well tested. I hope the stylus isn't too short, though. I'm using a 5-inch stylus now, and it's really awkward to write with.
I am so excited to try this stylus out, I don't know how I'm going to be able to wait until they ship...
Wayne,
Not sure about you, but jaja is like "OB-1 Kenobi" .. My only hope... iPen has been a disappointment .. Hoping that software updates and other apps change my feelings.. And those that have received their estylos have been disappointed too.
mG
Only just found out about the Jot Touch, which looks to be the jaja's closest competitor, but I think jaja will have the edge by using sound rather than Bluetooth, and 5x more pressure sensitivity.
Thanks for the input :-)
Yes it will work fine with the iPad 3.
We'll have a full schedule on the tips soon.
Wayne, I have not got my iPen yet, but we wont have any lag.
Thanks for the update! I really like he battery idea!
Jon, everything looks great so far. Aesthetics are always subjective, but I think for the most part, things look good. I would feel good about being seen in public using one. As for others' concerns about the plastic disk, I have an Adonit Jot stylus (passive, not powered or pressure sensitive) and while the execution is a tad different than that of the Jaja's, I can report that I've had no issues writing with it. The disk glides beautifully on either the glass screen or most quality screen protector films. It feel much better than all of the rubber tipped styli I've tried. The only stylus I have that feels better in use are the iFaraday, which have various tip shapes that have a conductive fabric layered over a foam tip. These aren't as accurate as the disc tip on the Jot, but they're great for digital painting or taking notes in Ghostwriter, using the zoomed handwriting feature. In any case, I'm looking forward to receiving my Jaja, which I will be comparing against my soon to arrive iPen. I'm hoping that the Jaja is free from the inking lag that seems to be an issue with the iPen (worse on the iPad 1st gen because of the slower processor... I suspect it'll be almost non existent on the New iPad).
Jon, I've looked but wasn't able to find a definitive answer but will this product be compatible for iPad3's?
Jon -
I just received an iPen (sorry, hadn't seen Jaja when I signed up) and there is a noticable (but not terrible) lag between pen motion and when the drawing / writing shows up on the screen. It's just enough to throw off my writing/drawing. I'm thinking it because of the overhead of processing the pen motion. Does / will Jaja have any sort of lag or delay?
Hey Jon. It is looking great. I was wondering when those of us who only ordered the 4 pack of nibs would be receiving them? The ones that you can use in any mechanical pencil. Thanks for the update!
The battery and balance is great, the stylus is quite short so the battery is well cradled in your hand. We have considered the balance.
Benni, I'm not sure I agree: remember that a stylus with a non replaceable battery cannot be used while it is recharging!
If you are drawing on your iPad and a fixed rechargeable battery runs flat, you will need to stop what you are doing and find a USB port (which the iPad doesn't have) and wait and hour or two for it to recharge. To carry out this operation you need the following: your charger, a wall outlet, or a laptop or desktop computer - as well as the iPad you are using! If you compare that to carrying a AAA battery in your bag, which can instantly be changed... I'd go the battery every time!
Imagine using your desktop computer and the mouse battery running flat, then stopping work until your mouse recharged?
Patrick, when you see the final product you will be very happy, I'm not sure I like all the wild colors personally but I am warming to the Gulf Oil Ford GT40 blue and orange! :-)
i think patrick is right too, the battery could be a real problem.
As most of us don't carry AAA Batteries around it will be harder o find a battery/buy one instead of using your laptop/charge it at your work pc...
Maybe leave the usb option and add the aaa option (if possible) ?
the orange color looks not good with the pink, blue and green one, the other look good,very good.
Maybe you should offer other colors instead of those that llok good with that orange.
ALso - add a kickstarter only green/grey one that looks great
I like the cosmetic design, but I think that @Patrick von Polcinski makes a good point about the placement of the battery. A top-heavy stylus would be a problem.
I'm keen to try out the tip. Do you still expect to ship the tips earlier than the stylus, despite the delay? As long as it allows natural drawing, I'll be happy with it.
FWIW, I think that jaja 2 should include a dongle like the Cregle iPen, so that it can have a sharp tip.
I hope you placed the battery well. Because if the jaja is not well balanced it will be pretty uncomfortible to use. Please tell me that the battery will be placed on the upper side when you hold the jaja in your hand. It would be to heavy. To grant a comfortable way of writing/using the battery should be placed on the writingside or in the lower middle.
In my opinion the design improvment is a step back... The jaja is looking artless but not in a positive way rather cheap. The orange ring for example do not mesh with many of your colour combinations.
I hope
This is a fantastic update. Love how the new design looks. Little bummed about the push back on the shipping, but it's better to wait a little longer on a better product than to rush and get a product that isn't nearly as great as it could be.
How's the battery change going to work with the new design, though? Wasn't wild about the idea at first, but thinking on it more and more, the replaceable battery does sound like a better option than waiting for the device to charge.
@Moe, Adiane... the last update was a little while ago sorry - I am actually working on it now.
color vote, coming soon. address info etc will be requested just prior to the shipping date, there not much point asking for it until it is needed, people move, and we only get one survey!