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Show older commentsCreator Ron Au on April 30
Ryan, no I just use the term loosely, not in a contractual sense of the word. As in, we invest our faith irregardless of whether the project's completion is certain. But yeah, bit of a fail on my part- I interpreted "out of the gate" wrongly.
Creator Matthew Hinrichs on April 30
I have really been enjoying the alpha releases so far. I can't wait to test LightTable with python tomorrow when I have some time. Great job and keep up the excellent work.
Creator Ryan McCarvill on April 9
Ron your not an investor, you've backed a project which is not guaranteed to succeed, and as a reward for your early backing you will recieve a free license.
You have no protection that an investor would have, and recieve no equity.
Creator Brandon Fallout on April 9
Came here to get some clarification on python as it was asked about in the survey. Looks like I found the answer. keep up the good work Chris, as I'm sure you know, a ton of us are looking forward to python. I don't mind waiting a bit to get it right.
Creator Ron Au on March 7
'"Out of the gate" means v1 - originally I hadn't even intended on releasing alphas.'
Thanks for finally coming out and clarifying! I think this is all we wanted. You are right and with the Python situation clarified, your progress and updates have been great. Apologies for misunderstanding.
@Paul Don't let me make Pythonists look bad! I'm just approaching this from a crowdfunding perspective.
Creator Paul Garner on March 7
Wow... chill out people!! And I'm writing as a Python person (and project supporter) who hasn't tried out the alpha yet. Since when did Pythonists get so shouty and whiny?
I've enjoyed reading the occasional but fascinating blog posts about development. It looks like it's going to be awesome. Maybe that's why folk are so impatient.
Creator Chris Granger on March 5
"Out of the gate" means v1 - originally I hadn't even intended on releasing alphas. To that end, I've shown nothing but progress since the kickstarter finalized. Each release has been leaps and bounds better than the one previous and in no way have I been disingenuous or hiding any effort I've made.
Perhaps we need a solid comparison to understand the amount of work that goes into creating an IDE/Editor. Let's take emacs as a point of reference, just the core of emacs is over a million lines of elisp. Or how about Visual Studio, which is more than 55 million lines with a core team of about 200 and nearly 2000 total that ship something in the box. In the emacs case, it has taken it just shy of 40 years to get where it is, and VS is almost 20. These things will take time, there's no getting around it.
With this release we see the introduction of Javascript, showing progress toward allowing more languages. I'm sorry things have not progressed in the exact manner you would like, but I haven't mislead or otherwise duped people in any way. Python is coming and it will be there in V1 as it was promised.
Creator Ron Au on March 5
We're all essentially investors and that means we understand that delays can happen. The difference is that you don't communicate. Can't you just tell us about your family issues, or immense demand for Clojure over Python, or licensing issues, or that you just haven't been in the right frame of mind for it, or you wanted to immerse yourself in Python for 6 months to make sure that support for it would be as flawless as possible? If there are reasons, let us know.
There's a difference between unexpected/overwhelming circumstances and lying- and I think as time has dragged on you have slid towards the latter. In my opinion it's okay to break promises. That is, so long as you intend/intended to keep it. However, in the case of Chris Granger, you put up in BIG, BOLD words headlining the Kickstarter promising that right out of the gate, Python would be there. After that, you then never uttered a word about Python again.
Even if you'd been saying "Sorry guys, Python work is slow, but I haven't abandoned it" all this time, it would be good. Right now, Python is seeming more like a lie and a less of a broken promise with hurdles.
Creator Thomas Hogan on March 3
I don't think it's fair that we don't have Python support. Please provide an update on that timeline. We have been extremely patient and deserve communication on why it hasn't happened.
Creator Ron Au on March 2
Today I learned: "Python will be the third language to be supported out of the gate." means "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
Chris Granger,
if moreThanNineMonths != "out of the gate":
print("Still waiting on Python, mate. If a baby was conceived when you said it would be supported, it'd be born now. It's been that long, Granger. That baby's waiting. We're all waiting."
else:
print("You can't count.")
Creator Thomas Hogan on January 25
Also waiting on Python...
Creator Martin Alix on January 17
Hey Chris,
Thanks for the T-Shirt!
Can you once again please adjust my pledge level... Paid 500$, stuck at 130$ from some glitch...
Regards,
Creator Rickard Löfström on January 8
I'm sure you've heard this a million times already, but what are the more major milestones required to be met before we can see some love for us python people?
Creator Vinny A on December 25
Appreciated! Just received mine, looks great.
Creator Chris Granger on December 20
they were shipped friday, so people are *just* starting to receive them :)
Creator Vinny A on December 20
Hello, did the tshirts get shipped out? I pledged at the $30 level, sent back the survey, and haven't received my tshirt.
Creator Gorm Lai on October 25, 2012
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Creator tycho luyben on September 26, 2012
Another bunch of great ideas in here again; http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/, any plans to include any of these features in Light Table?
Creator tycho luyben on September 19, 2012
@Larry Yeah bit more feedback would be great. And ETA for the 0.2 version as well :)
Creator Larry McClenon on September 15, 2012
Chris doesn't seem to be elaborating on only thing..
Creator tycho luyben on September 1, 2012
I hope Chris will soon elaborate about the plugin structure; i'm curious to see how flexible it actually is; if it's flexible as I hope it will, this will definitely be my environment of choice for the years to come. Now if they would finish clojure-in-clojure (is anyone working on that still?), I would be happy sticking with clojure as main language for all development.
Creator Larry McClenon on August 15, 2012
Any updates? How is the python version coming along? Has your decision to take funding elsewhere cause more red tape or lack of control?
Creator Vinny A on July 28, 2012
Hey, maybe I missed it, but was the design for the reward tshirt made public?
Creator Spencer Dailey on July 9, 2012
This looks great! As someone who knows nothing about Clojure, is there any word on when (V .8 or V.9) you will begin adding language support (Javascript, Python)?
Creator Chris Tarquini on June 27, 2012
Will lightable support Node.JS with it's javascript support?
Creator Chris Bearcroft on June 25, 2012
Is this going to become an exe at any point in time or is it just going to be a software which has to be installed onto a server in order to run?
Creator Edwin Yip on June 24, 2012
Hi Chris, I backed you, but interesting I'm also your competitor.
Check http://liveditor.com and you'll see. But it's less innovative than your ideas though :)
However, it's for web front end coding (live, of course).
Creator Clint Moore on June 21, 2012
Oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man... I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on this.
And then get it to work with Common Lisp. unnggffff.... *fap* *fap* *fap*
Creator Kevin Kanji on June 21, 2012
@Jussi - I disagree, if it is released open source too quickly, the core of the idea will die in a million opinions. To preserve what Chris wants it to be, he should build the core, then it can be released to the world.
Creator giano on June 18, 2012
I backed this project for the goodness of the ideas and in the hope this IDE will inspire others as well. I do not use Clojure, but the IDE was told to be quite "easy" to be extended to other languages as well. It would be a killer feature for me to view this IDE applied to Node.js (that I can think being a "cousin" to Clojure). Is there any plan for it?
Creator Antizzy Notkizzy on June 17, 2012
I second the previous comment. Any time frame on a beta? PS I foretell an apple acquisition.
Creator Paul Meulmeester on June 16, 2012
This might be a bit quick but when does the Beta start? Seeing all these videos makes me want to try out it asap :)
Creator Jussi Rytkönen on June 2, 2012
This may be a naive question, but what reason is there not to open source Light Table right away? You'd think that open source community would be a great boost in making better product even faster. ps. Loving the project!
Creator Usher Davidson on June 2, 2012
https://www.facebook.com/LightTable
Creator Guy Kanon on June 2, 2012
This could be the one IDE to rule them all.
(X)HTML(5), CSS, Javascript, PHP, MySQL
Creator Vlad on June 1, 2012
RUBY !!!11
Creator Robert Terhaar on June 1, 2012
Python :) can't wait!
Creator Tim McNamara on June 1, 2012
Well done Chris!
Creator Mathias Kærlev on June 1, 2012
Great, Python. I know it may seem I'm just jumping on the bandwagon, but I can't wait to use it for my favorite language :-)
Creator Jesus Rodriguez on June 1, 2012
YESSSSS! PYTHON! PYTHON! PYTHON! PYTHON!
Creator Igor «SkAZi» Potapov on June 1, 2012
JS & Python! Yes!
Creator Ben Gift on June 1, 2012
Python!! : D Hooray! Good luck Chris
Creator VoidQ on June 1, 2012
Backed, looks interesting. Hope we hear more on this soon.
Creator Patrick Coakley on June 1, 2012
Python :D
Creator Shannon Bertucci on June 1, 2012
PYTHON!
Creator Nathaniel Grammel on June 1, 2012
300k! It'll be nice to see Python support, but I hope to see others develop plugins for more languages as well. That said, I think Javascript, Clojure, and Python support out of the gate is impressive as it is.
Creator Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga on June 1, 2012
RRRUUUUUUBBBBBYYYYY! \o/
Creator Pol Cámara on June 1, 2012
Yay Python! I'm glad i backed :D
Creator Daniel on June 1, 2012
Great to see Python finally added :-)
Just upgraded my pledge with another $35
Creator John Zanchetta on June 1, 2012
Great... Python is the one I wanted :-)