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- Dirk Strothmann 241 friends
- Website: magniclight.com
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56 backers
The Web: You will appear on the supporters list on our webpage www.magniclight.com. This reward is also included in all other rewards.
Estimated delivery: Mar 2012Pledge $5 or more
25 backers
The Card: Get a personal "Thank You" -postcard signed by the project leader.
Estimated delivery: Apr 2012Pledge $25 or more
30 backers
The Shirt: Get a personalized high quality functional shirt with the project logo and your name.
Estimated delivery: Apr 2012Pledge $45 or more
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The Game: You want to support us but don't cycle yourself ? Then we have a special gift for you: Get the non-electronic computer boardgame "i9n" (www.strothmann-spiele.de) signed by game-inventor and Magnic Light project leader Dirk Strothmann in a special Magnic Light edition. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Mar 2012Pledge $85 or more
41 backers Limited (259 of 300 left)
The Back Light: Get the back light of the Magnic Light system with break light function. The back light comes with an adapter for standard side pull brakes (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For a special steady state adapter (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 10 US$ and tell us the steady state perimeter. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012Pledge $130 or more
27 backers Limited (273 of 300 left)
The Front Light: Get the front light of the Magnic Light system. The front light comes with an adapter for standard side pull brakes (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For a special steady state adapter (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 10 US$ and tell us the steady state perimeter. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012Pledge $160 or more
5 backers Limited (45 of 50 left)
The Double Back Light: Get two back lights of the Magnic Light system with break light function. The back lights come with adapter for standard side pull brakes and can be mounted on the left an on the right side (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For two special steady state adapters (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 20 US$ and tell us the steady state perimeter. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012Pledge $199 or more
206 backers Limited (794 of 1000 left)
The Complete: Get the complete Magnic Light system consisting of front light and back light. Front light and back light come with adapters for standard standard side pull brakes (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For a special fork adapter + steady state adapter (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 20 US$ and tell us fork and steady state perimeter. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012Pledge $199 or more
14 backers All gone!
The Early Bird: Get the early version of the complete Magnic Light system in July consisting of front light and back light. Front-light and back-light come with adapters for standard standard side pull brakes (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For a special fork adapter + steady state adapter (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 20 US$ and tell us fork and steady state perimeter. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Jul 2012Pledge $250 or more
9 backers Limited (91 of 100 left)
The Double Front: Get two front lights of the Magnic Light system (can be used left/right). The front lights come with adapters for standard side pull brakes (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For special fork adapters (for bikes without brake bosses) please add US$ 20 and tell us the fork perimeter. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012Pledge $380 or more
36 backers Limited (14 of 50 left)
The Double: Get the double version consisting of two front lights and two back lights. Give one set to your partner or keep them all yourself and double your light. adapters for standard standard side pull brakes (For Cantilever brake bosses please send us a message). For 2 special fork adapters + 2 steady state adapters (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 30 US$ and tell us fork and steady state perimeters. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012Pledge $740 or more
6 backers Limited (44 of 50 left)
The Quattro: Get the quattro family or team version consisting of 4 front lights and 4 back lights. For 4 special fork adapters + 4 steady state adapters (for bikes without brake bosses) please add 50 US$ and tell us fork and steady state perimeters. For international shipping (outside United States, Germany and Netherlands) please add US$ 20.
Estimated delivery: Sep 2012
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Show older commentsCreator Dirk Strothmann 1 day ago
We have ~70 packages left here (and yours is among them)- most of them with road adapters and clamp adapters. We have to produce and intensively check some more rear lights this weekend so we should be able to finish shipments to all Kickstarter backers end of next week. We are still a very small team - so I must admit we are not very fast with shipments but we try to do it as good as possible.
Creator Henrik Van Ryzin 1 day ago
Aloha Dirk - wanted to see if you had shipped to Hawaii yet - have not received any emails with tracking numbers. Can't wait to get my lights!
Creator Carlos D 3 days ago
I received mine, V-Brake sport version, last week and rode a 600km brevet on Saturday. Very nice. My longer review here: http://bike.duque.net/review-the-magnic-lights. Thanks for such a good product/effort Dirk.
Hi Pedro, Carlos here! Hope they work for you on your brevets in Portugal as they did for me in San Francisco (usa)
Creator Dirk Strothmann 3 days ago
You should have received a mail with your tracking number- please have a look:-)
Creator Pedro Alves 3 days ago
Is There any update on shipping to Portugal?
Creator Dirk Strothmann 6 days ago
Shipment problems have been solved. We send out as much as we can now- today this will be 70 boxes and tomorrow ~ the same number. We waited for new adapters for racing bikes which have arrived last week. We tested them some days and send out now... I try to find some time to send you the tracking numbers until tomorrow.
Creator Jon Wasserman on May 11
Is there any update on shipping to those of us in the USA?I'm getting jealous of all the others receiving their lights! There was a bit on the Facebook page about shipping problems, but it was in German and the Google translation was unclear.
Creator Ron Lehman on April 30
- we have installed both headlights and are truly impressed!
....................... our vehicle is a recumbent bike (Rans Vivo) and
we really expected to have to do some modification to make them fit, but
happily they mounted well without problems ........ very well thought out ............
furthermore, due to your efforts to shrink the housing, there is NO HEEL INTERFERENCE! .............. we couldn't be more pleased! -
- we only ask that you consider including on the next version a headphone
jack or similar connection with which one might mount a headlight
elsewhere on the bike drawing power from this unit, as was suggested
earlier -
regards,
ron
Creator Jesse Moynihan on April 26
I got the lights today. Installed the front and back lights and took them out for test ride at night in the city. They work great! I need to make an adjustment to my back brakes to get them closer to the rim when in resting position, but besides that I'm very happy with what came out of this project. Thanks!
My only suggestion is possibly making a youtube how-to video for the installation. Once I figured it out, it was easy to set up, but I was doing some things wrong at first. I didn't realize that the mounting used the same screw as the brake.
Creator Michael Lockyer on March 28
Hi Dirk
I await you reply to the below comment!
Mick
Creator Michael Lockyer on March 21
Hi Dirk
I am having trouble with getting the adaptors sent through your website!! Due to Paypal not recognizing Macau as an address. What do you suggest?
Mick
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 18
Hi Randall & others,
We have recieved first 30 shipping boxes today- rest will follow on Thursday. I will be in Taipei for the Taipei Cycle trade until Saturday and arrange shipping for next week. An update will follow here this evening.
Best,
Dirk
Creator Randall G Hoeppner on March 18
updates please its nearly April. thank you.
Creator Alastair Schoen on March 5
Hey Dirk, I have attempted to contact you several times but have received no reply. Execution of the project has taken a fair bit longer than expected though I'm still quite excited for the end product. Anyways with the longer execution time some timeframes didn't line up well and I need to change my shipping information. However, I've moved to another country. I also still need to order additional mounts. Please contact me ASAP with how to proceed.
Creator Stephen Hawkins on January 18
Hi Dirk. Any news on shipping?, so looking forward to getting these on the race bike and not having to carry heavy battery powered lights for day running just because car drivers are blind to anything but other cars
Creator Djememepaspeur on November 1, 2012
Hello,
I just received the last update, awesome work dude! I'm just a little bit sad about finally not receive two micro rear lights for each side of the wheel because as you sayed it have enough light from one unit...
Now that the front and rear light are exactly the same, why not replace one of the two micro rear light promised before by one front light?
Creator darren john on October 30, 2012
any updates??? how soon until you start deliveries???
Creator Darell Dickey on August 10, 2012
I know the questionnaire will come and will ask which of the two speeds we want. But what I want is the full-on optimized (for all speeds) one - no matter how long it takes. Will that be an option as well? I want it efficient at high speed, but I don't want it to stay dark until 9 km/h
- Darell
Creator Ron Lehman on July 17, 2012
- please add a standard headphone jack (or equivalent) to the unit allowing it to power a remote light placed elsewhere on the bike ... this option greatly increases the utility ..... best to add the jack on the underside perhaps to minimize any chance of water intrusion -
looking good,
ron
Creator Stephen Hawkins on July 11, 2012
Love the smaller versions, can be made far more aeordynamic in shape though
Agree with the comment on the brighter lights, a 30mm version with bigger optics sounds a perfect compromise
For me these lights will be used as warning lights for day running, so brightness as percieved from a car is more important than lighting up the road (I have a ton of much brighter lights for that). I wonder how many see these as being seen lights rather than seeing lights? may affect the type of optic you use
Creator Dirk Strothmann on July 11, 2012
Dear Kerry,
Thank you very much for your comment!
You are right. XML's with these small optics don't work well.
I forgot to mention, that the smaller version does not have XML's. We tested Cree XTE's and XBD's in combination with Carclo lenses (10417) which are used in many MTB applications.
But I did not know about the Cree XP-G2 until you told me here and I must say this sounds really interesting. I saw that this new LED has been officially presented on July 10th (which was yesterday) so we had no chance to test but we will try to do now. The Carclo 10417 lenses have a nice spot even if they are so small. They are used in some high performance MTB lights. It would be possible to use the 20mm optics with the "micro" version and I will present a picture how this version would look (extra width 30mm). I will try to get the XP-G2 LED's as soon as possible and maybe present some beam shots form several combinations of LEDs and lenses.
Best Regards,
Dirk
Creator Kerry Staite on July 11, 2012
Hi Dirk,
I just saw the update, and must speak my mind about the changes. I actually run a LED bike lighting company, so please take this from someone that knows about LED lights...
I think going to a smaller optic is a bad choice for road riding, a smaller optic or a increased 'die' size, will always give lower LUX values.
a high LUX (or throw / punch) is very important for road riding on a road bike, as you are going much faster, than on a MTB or riding off road.
so if you have a small optic AND use XML's then this light will have no PUNCH at all...and I would ask for you to save me one of the bigger version with the 20mm optics.
Now that the XPG G2 is now out, matching the performance of XML pretty close, then better to use XPG G2 with a smaller apparent die size, for a higher LUX value in any optic, smaller or larger, than using XML's...
20mm optics and XPG G2 would have higher LUX values than any of your current lights, and IMHO offer better performance and ability to throw down the road. This is what I need for my road bike riding and the key to making a small amount of light, useful.
hope this helps
warmest regards
Kerry
Creator Henrik Van Ryzin on July 9, 2012
Aloha Dirk - been a month, any news on the project? I want to get those lights on my bike :)
Creator Henrik Van Ryzin on June 8, 2012
Thank you so much! Looking forward to the big update in a few weeks - sounds like we will have a big decision to make!
Creator Dirk Strothmann on June 8, 2012
@Henrik: Reason for rare updates actually is simple. We don't sit here here and put pieces together by hand but we build up a network of suppliers which enable us to deliver a high quality product now and in future. Since many big companies are watching this process and this Kickstarter page we have to be cautious with things we tell here.
This week I won't make an "official" update but tell the most important news in my comment here:
We develop two versions simultaneously: One for the Kickstarter backers and one for the market. Actually we have found a way to increase efficiency significantly. This means we can either build the system much smaller without loosing much power or keep it as big as before and have much more power. For practical reasons (adapters) we have decided to start with the "micro" version which only will have a weight of ~30 g compared to 130 g of the front light before. Most of the components in the Kickstarter version and the "micro" version are identical but the magnet arrangement is not. The most important point is a new elegant solution for adapters which we can't build of carbon. So it looks like we will ask all Kickstarter backers in a few weeks whether they want to get the carbon version or the micro version (as a double set for left and right) because you have backed this project and should have the choice.
The carbon version has the advantage of uniqueness, elegant carbon surface and a little bit more power- the "micro" version has the advantage of size & weight.
But actually I can't show images because of the reasons I told above. So I would be happy if you are satisfied with an update with new images in three weeks.
Best,
Dirk
Creator Henrik Van Ryzin on June 7, 2012
It has been a loooooong time since the last update. Please let us know how the project is going - I miss hearing about the process!
Creator Mike Clark on May 10, 2012
still excited! looking forward to hearing how it's going!
Creator Yukihiro Kato on April 20, 2012
Hi Dirk
How about the progress of your project?
Creator IDKU on March 19, 2012
Congrats :)
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
So that's it. Thanks to all backers! Now there is much to do and we'll give our best to deliver all rewards in time.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
They even count the seconds...
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
I bet there is at least one backer waiting for the final hit...
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
3 minutes: Actually Buck,Stan and Kodi.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
Some months ago I managed to be the final revolights backer- but it was two seconds before the end. Maybe we should spent three extra T-Shirts for the three final backers?
Ok - nice game: actually these go to Stan, David and Kodi.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
Stan seems to be the final backer. Cool that even in the final hour new backers join us.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 19, 2012
Now we are counting minutes. I am curious if they even show the seconds in 26 minutes.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 18, 2012
If you use the frame adapter (for 10$ extra) then light won't change when you brake. You only have a brake light effect when mounting on the brake arms of a side pull brake.
Dirk
Creator Djememepaspeur on March 18, 2012
Hello,
I don't have any rear brake so I would like to know how is working the rear brake light. If i put the steady mount light as closer as I can of the rim, does it means that i'll have a constant brighter light like when braking?
Best regards
Djé
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 17, 2012
@Ting We will ask all backers for their configuration after project end. Cantilever adapter is without extra cost.
Best,
Dirk
Creator Ting Hsu on March 16, 2012
For a cantilever brake, can I assume that it will show up as a survey question, after the kickstarter completes, as a no cost option? That's what the rewards seem to imply; otherwise, I need to up my pledge, as one of my two bikes uses cantilever brakes.
Creator Ron Lehman on March 16, 2012
- we have pledged $130 for the front light only .... and it appears we must invent some mount for our recumbent bike (RANS Vivo) since our heels can hit the 20 inch front tire, and would likely strike the Magnic light if mounted at the brake ................. so we support the concept already mentioned of using a separate light powered by your unit ............ this could be best accomplished by including a jack on the Magnic light unit (similar to an a headphone jack) that switches off the included light, and allows for a plug/wire leading to a light mounted elsewhere on the bike ............. this obviates several different Magnic light versions; one version is sufficient to satisfy most customer requirements simply by adding that jack/plug to the housing with which to tap power to the customer's light -
- hope you can use this idea ..... it would make the unit useful to a larger audience -
thanks,
ron
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 16, 2012
@Todd We have the advantage that Magnic Light has a better position than a hub dynamo for transmission/ generating energy: Hub dynamos have the drawback that they are in the center of the wheel which is the worst position because of slow relative speed, the opposite holds for the Magnic Light system. This week I was asked by a potential backer if he might use the disc of his disc brake to feed Magnic Light and I had to tell him that this only works theoretically but in practice relative speed is too low (same problem as a hub dynamo). For wind turbines I think there are more efficient ways however ours is light and easy to install- but wind turbines don't have a rim which would be necessary.
Best,
Dirk
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 16, 2012
@Markus We have some ideas to make the design more compact. However by using carbon we are limited to using tubes - otherwise it becomes too expensive.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 16, 2012
@Derek Thank you for the cool article!
Dirk
Creator Todd Fahrner on March 15, 2012
Since you claim better efficiency than achieved in hub dynamos, I wonder if your approach has potential for application in, e.g., wind turbines and other power generation scenarios, where there may be advantages to having very low moment in the rotor. A single step speed multiplier from a light turbine to, say, a light aluminum rotor not unlike a bicycle wheel...
Creator Markus on March 15, 2012
Hi there,
awesome idea. The vertical version is clearly better, however the current design looks a bit clunky. Isn't it possible to get the housing slimmer, ie. rather with an upright elliptical profile than a cylindric one?
Keep going,
/Markus
Creator Derek Markham on March 13, 2012
hope you get a little boost from this: http://www.treehugger.com/gadgets/help-kickstart-first-compact-contactless-bicycle-dynamo.html
Cheers!
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 13, 2012
@ Stephan - You can add them on both sides. In Taipeh they drive on the right side but I had no bike with me- only my running shoes, which was enough.
Creator Dirk Strothmann on March 13, 2012
@ Yuhann- too complicated for our first version. We want to have a very robust one and we won't manage it this way.
@Kerry- Thank you for backing us and telling your encouraging ideas!
@all discussing the steady light- we're just a startup not a big company. Without steady light we have a stable version actually. Tomorrow we'll do a long distance test and it will work well- I'm sure. With every new feature we integrate errors might come, we don't have in mind actually. So I'm with Jon here: Let us do a basic one we have trust in. It may look simple to have some extras but I can't sleep well, if I tell you we'll do them. For the basic version we know lifetime mainly depends on LEDs, on the magnets and on accurate handwork. You'll have fun with the lights many years. For a steady light version we have no experience yet so there is not enough time to do it this year and maybe even not next year.
Creator IDKU on March 11, 2012
@Dirk - just a suggestion and not sure how viable it may be from a mechanical point of view, but how about just add a swivel mechanism so the unit can turn into eithe horizontal or vertical config? That means only one design as opposed to 2.