The Great Fire of London

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1. Creator Dan Keller 4 days ago
  
  @Anthony, the major delay was due to the delays in getting Tammany Hall shipped out. In addition, as Nathan pointed out below, there have been a number of minor issues that have cropped up that have slowed down the production process.
  
  While it is a reprint, Nathan has made a point in upgrading all components of the game. So there is a lot of stuff to keep track of in terms of component quality.
  
  That said, in hindsight it probably would have been better if the projects had been spaced out further, thereby giving each game time for production without the others being delayed.
2. Creator Anthony DePietro 5 days ago
  
  Isn't this just a reprint of a game that existed but with better bits? I'm having a hard time understanding how / why this wouldn't be in my hands within a year of the kickstarter ending. Is there something I'm missing here? Wasn't the original date supposed to be February 2013?
3. Creator Aldin Barnes 6 days ago
  
  @Anthony depietro i am not with pandasaurus and hate to b the barrier of bad news but there is less then a 1% chance of the game arriving for gencon. if its not on the boat allready we it will take way too long to get here to b here by mid august. sorry, i hope im wrong.
4. Creator Anthony DePietro 7 days ago
  
  I was REAAAAALLLLLLYYYYYY hoping to have my copy of this for GenCon. When I backed this last year I never thought that would be a concern but now? Can anyone at Pandasaurus give me the odds?
5. Creator Phasmtis on June 9
  
  Do you think New Amsterdam will beat this game to our homes? :)
6. Creator Phasmtis on June 9
  
  Are we going to make aug shipping to pledgers?
7. Creator Pandasaurus Games on June 1
  
  Dan,
  
  We ran into a couple of more small file issues during production. It's one of the reasons I didn't want to put a guess as to when exactly the game will be ready until production is finished. Tammany went pretty smoothly at the printer and didn't have a lot of issues. Great Fire has had a series of small issues that had to be corrected.
8. Creator Dan Keller on June 1
  
  Nathan, any more news from the printers? How close are the games to getting on the boat?
9. Creator Aldin Barnes on May 24
  
  Pandasaurus Games, Keep going and bringing games to market. We can all see your progress to get the TGFOL to us but you can't rest on your laurels you have to keep pushing. I'm way excited to see what your next kickstarter will be. I am sad i missed out on Tammney and Lost valley didn't strike a cord with me but i htink you do great work. Please keep it up through kickstarter and traditional means.
10. Creator Pandasaurus Games on May 20
  
  Matt,
  
  We are working hard on Great Fire and Lost Valley. Our new games are being produced by European publishers as part of a larger international price to run and we are only picking up the US publication. Effectively, these sorts of games require a lot less time commitment and a ton less work than something like our first three titles where we are handling everything ourselves.
  
  We aren't going to be launching any more games where Pandasaurus will be handling the production until after both Great Fire and Lost Valley are at the printers. Great Fire is there now, Lost Valley is very close.
11. Creator Matt on May 20
  
  So why when you have to unfulfilled Kickstarter campaigns running still do you have not 1 but 3 games coming out this June when these two games don't even have a shipping time frame yet?
  
  I mean that looks really bad when we're getting more updates about your new projects coming out then your current projects that are running way overdue? Thank god they aren't a kickstarter or i'd be telling people not to back all day long because that is not the way you should be treating your customers.
12. Creator Ben on May 6
  
  I pledged at the $115 level, but I still haven't received Tammany Hall. I emailed address@pandasaurusgames.com as suggested below a couple weeks ago, but haven't gotten any response. Is there something else I should try to get this resolved?
13. Creator Max Chau on April 29
  
  Hey guys,
  
  I'm a backer for The Great Fire of London and Lost Valley, just wanted to give a heads up to NOT ship to Canada by UPS! And if you do, put the customs value to 10$ or less, this will save you alot of headaches and figuring out what to do for compensation. If you don't, UPS will charge me at least 40$ brokerage fees.
  
  Thanks!
14. Creator Pandasaurus Games on April 10
  
  Yeah,
  
  There are lots of little things that you can't do when running a campaign that you would think you could. I guess this exists so that someone can't just keep changing the date or the reward description.
15. Creator ryan on April 10
  
  I didn't know that, sorry.
16. Creator Pandasaurus Games on April 10
  
  Ryan,
  
  Once the delivery estimate is set it can't be changed. So it will say February permanently.
17. Creator ryan on April 10
  
  Just wondering how difficult it is to update the text .... "Estimated delivery: Feb 2013" does it take more than a few seconds to log in and update the word "Feb" to something not in the past?
18. Creator Richard Gray on March 20
  
  I'm not sure if non-project backers can view updates on Tammany Hall or not (this is where I'm pulling all this from). After my last post, PSG posted the following on the TH project:
  
  2) If you sent me an email about missing parts (or games presumably), we've gotten it, and it's on the way! I didn't reply to all of these emails due to time constraints and a failed auto-responder on my email address that I thought was confirming receipt of those emails, but we have gotten the email and you should have them shortly.
19. Creator Michael Smythe on March 18
  
  I have twice last week, and not heard back at all from Pandasaurus Games.
20. Creator Richard Gray on March 18
  
  If you have not received your copies of Tammany Hall yet, you should contact Pandasaurus at the following:
  address@pandasaurusgames.com with a subject line of "Tammany Hall not received" and include your name and address.
21. Creator Jason Brown on March 13
  
  I too have sent a couple of messages through Kickstarter with no response. I am still waiting in the UK for the TH games.
22. Creator James H Jones on March 12
  
  I am also still waiting for my 2 TH games, at least I now know that I am not the only one.
23. Creator Eric Saumier on March 11
  
  I am starting to wonder if I'll ever get my TH copy!.... I still have no response from anyone at Pandasaurus... It's been 2 week and a half since my package supposedly has been sent ( as per Feb15th update... ) People oversea have received it already, their game was supposed to be shipped AFTER the canadian orders..
  
  How can we fix this?
  Maybe sending another one?
24. Creator Richard Gray on March 11
  
  Also, for those of you that having missing parts or damaged copies of the game (including things like box-cutter damage) you should contact Pandasaurus at the following:
  address@pandasaurusgames.com with a subject line of "Tammany Hall Missing Parts."
  
  Please note my previous comment about the bowler and top hat meeples. You should have 5 bags of 18 Bowlers, and a bag containing 2 Top Hats of each color.
25. Creator Richard Gray on March 11
  
  @Joel - actually I can answer many of your questions directly from the Tammany Hall project page.
  
  You do not have an incorrect number of ward bosses. the game comes with 90 of them (18 in each color). The game also comes with the ten Top Hat meeples. These are essentially your 19th and 20th ward bosses, however since you don't NEED that many those are actuallly used to keep track of things like scoring and who immigrant leaders.
  
  The political position cards are used as a reminder for who has what job. When a person is appointed a position, they are given the card to serve as a reminder of who they are and what special abilities they can use. The flag decals are for the political favor chips. they were changed to a more time-appropriate flag, so yes I would probably use the box as a guide for which one is which if you are unsure.
26. Creator Joel Johnson on March 7
  
  Nathan McNair – Pandasaurus Games:
  
  I got your e-mail address from Alliance Game Distributors. They said to contact you. By the way, the phone number you have on your website for the Midwest Alliance Distributor in Fort Wayne, IN is not correct (it is not an active number). Their correct number is 1-800-444-3552. I had to look up their website on the Internet and was thankful they actually had an e-mail address I could use to reach out to you. See below for further details and my specific concerns. Thanks.
  
  1. I received a copy of “Tammany Hall” as a kickstarter reward for pledging support for “The Great Fire of London” Game. When I received the “Tammany Hall” game, the Yellow, Black, Purple, and Red Ward Boss pieces (with the derby hats) were each missing two (2) pieces. The count should be 20 for each of them, but I only received 18 pieces each. The natural (unpainted) Ward Boss pieces came with the right count and all 20 pieces were present in that color.
  
  a. Summary: Missing Ward Boss Pieces (with derby hats)
  
  2- Yellow
  
  2- Black
  
  2-Purple
  
  2-Red
  
  b. Please send me the above missing pieces. My address is below my signature block. Thanks.
  
  2. Prior to the start of the kickstarter project for “The Great Fire of London” Game, on 7/18/2012 I had preordered the “Tammany Hall” game via your Pandasaurus website. I’ve left several message all over your website requesting the cancellation of my preorder because I had selected to receive the game as a tag-on reward for supporting “The Great Fire of London” kickstarter campaign. I have never ever received confirmation back from you that my preorder has been canceled. I do not want to receive two copies of the game so please cancel my preorder and let me know that has been done. My “Tammany Hall” preorder number is: 68DE2F96911DA3B4. Thanks.
  
  3. I noticed that the “Tammany Hall” game contained parts that are not mentioned in the rules or component section of the rules. Some items are pictured on the back of the box, however, no explanation accompanies the pictures. Could you please answer my questions regarding the following items?
  
  a. How are the five political position cardboard cards used? They are pictured on the back of the box, but that is all. Do these cards just get placed in front of the players to indicate they have been assigned those positions following an election, or is there more to their use?
  
  b. The flag stickers are not mentioned in the rules. I was not sure where to put them, but noticed that the favor tokens came in the same count (35). I am guessing the flags go on the favor tokens. Is that right? If so, then I was further confused as to which nationality favor token to put the flags on. The back of the box seemed to provide a clue by indicating the nationality for each flag. Do I simply use the back of the box as a key for which favor token nationalities to put the flags on?
  
  c. There are 10 (2 of each of the five player color) meeples with top hats. The rules do not mention them on the component list and the rest of the rules don’t explain their use. What are these used for? Also, what are they to be called or known as in support of the games scenario (since the derby hat pieces are already called Ward Bosses)?
  
  4. Please be advised, the copy of “Tammany Hall” I received had a slit on the cover of the game box that split open a portion of the cellophane wrap and left a fine slice down the middle of the image of Boss Tweed. This blemish was done by a box cutter (or similar item) prior to shipment to me because I opened the shipping box in a manner that would ensure the game would be protected from any harm. The game was buried deep in foam packing peanuts when I opened the box and I had to dig way down in the box to get to the game out. Once I cleared the peanuts away and had the game in hand, I noticed the non-pristine condition of the game. Since I am a collector, I was a bit disappointed. I tried to contact you via “The Great Fire of London” Kickstarter site (because I’ve never been able to successfully receive a response from you using your Pandasaurus website). I planned to wait until I heard back from you before I opened the game so I could find out what you wanted me to do. After waiting for a reply–which did not ever come–I finally decided to just ‘suck it up’ and removed the cellophane and opened the game despite the condition of the box top. That’s when I inventoried the pieces and identified the problems and came up with the questions as noted in the paragraphs above.
  
  5. Please confirm receipt of this e-mail and let me know how you will be addressing the problems and questions I’ve mentioned above. Thanks.
  
  Very respectfully,
  
  Joel Johnson
  
  8086 South Heywood Drive
  
  West Jordan, Utah 84081
  
  Phone: (801) 878-9337
27. Creator Michael Smythe on March 6
  
  So have all of the Tammany Hall copies of the Tammany Hall/GFoL rewards been shipped out? I know people have started getting them, and I wanted to know how long to wait before I start asking where my copy is. I live in Canada, so I know to give an extra week or two for customs, but it would help if I knew when the copies being sent to Canada were shipped out.
28. Creator Brandon Jeffries on March 5
  
  The last update was to direct backers who received incomplete copies of the final product to contact the company via email instead of spamming them via Kickstarter.
  
  I'm sure a similar message will appear here if needed after the final product launches.
29. Creator Eric Saumier on March 5
  
  I am in the same situation as Michael Smythe, I have pledged GFOL and Tammany Hall and waiting for it as it should arrive anyday now... I just find it odd that the last update for TH is "backers only"... is it possible to know what is all about?
30. Creator Matthew Roskam on March 4
  
  From what I've seen, people are thrilled with the quality of Tammany Hall. Looking forward to a really nice production of Great Fire. Let's all remember this is a true kickstarter project, not a large company using Kickstarter as a Pre-order service.. We all actually helped make this happen..., so let's be patient!
31. Creator Cerity "elves n orcs" Silverhawk on February 17
  
  Wanted to post this here. My Tammany was received in pristine condition. Thanks to Fred Distribution :D
  Pandasaurus, can't wait for GFoL and Lost Valley.
32. Creator Pandasaurus Games on February 9
  
  Tammany will be shipping when it ready, with Great Fire coming later once it is ready to ship.
  
  So hopefully you will get your copy of Tammany sooner rather than later.
33. Creator Michael Smythe on February 9
  
  If we are getting the Great Fire/Tammany Hall combo reward, are they being shipped together, or was Tammany Hall being sent out with the other copies, and Great Fire follows when it's done?
34. Creator Keith Textor on February 6
  
  No news is good news. No play by play needed. I understand that "estimated delivery: Feb 2013" does not mean "guaranteed deliver: Feb 2013". Just keep your legs moving and let your blockers push the pile forward. If we slip into March a quick update might be nice, but no apologies are necessary.
35. Creator Chad Rutt on February 4
  
  Dying for an update! Looking forward to the game. Thanks!
36. Creator David Siskin on February 2
  
  Just adding my voice...I'd like regular updates.
37. Creator Richard Gray on January 31
  
  @Colin - Periodic updates saying "we're busy w/ ___" sounds perfectly fine, until they say that a couple of times and people start complaining about how "That's all you've said for the past X updates." The truth of the matter is, no matter what they do the vocal minority is going to be up in arms about it. It's better to have concrete information, than to have someone interpret "It should be ___" as a promise that they've now broken.
38. Creator Colin Sham on January 30
  
  A simple, honest statement of where the project stands would be appreciated. Doing so once a month would be more than enough, even if it's "sorry everyone we're busy on the other KS project, but we haven't forgotten this". What's really unfortunate is that it took a post of Trevor's tone to make you post; there's been plenty of gentle prodding from Aug 2012 until early Jan 2013, so frustration has set in for your backers.
39. Creator Pandasaurus Games on January 30
  
  Sorry Aldine,
  
  My intention wasn't to come off as contrite. I am very appreciative of everything y'all have done to make this happen. More disappointed in some of the hurdles we've run into and the delays wear hoped to avoid.
40. Creator Aldin Barnes on January 29
  
  I appreciate you updating. I was hoping that the tone of your update would have been more. . . apologetic. I don't agree with the tone of Trevor's post but he does bring up some good points. I bit more frequent of updates would have been nice. However, it didn't happen. I wonder if there would be a way for you to find some help with updates, maybe there would be some backers who could help. I 'hear' overwhelmed in your voice. Thank you for all of the work you are putting in to bring us a great game. I hope the future is smoother sailing for you.
41. Creator Pandasaurus Games on January 29
  
  Trevor,
  
  Most of my attention is with Tammany right now and trying to get it shipped. It's taken much longer to solve the wooden cone problem then I initially thought it would. I've now got proper wooden cones and will be moving forward with production shortly. The initial estimate was based on the timeline I was given for tammany productions which would have had that project here in October. It is only now shipping. So, it's just going to take longer than initially thought to produce.
  
  I'm also going to be providing less and more high level updates than I did for Tammany. I made the mistake of providing play by play updates of what I knew with that and it sort of blew up in my face.
42. Creator Trevor Christensen on January 29
  
  No update in over 3 months. We collectively handed you over sixty thousand dollars on this project alone, certainly that deserves 15 minutes of your time to post an update of some sort monthly. I can't see how that is asking too much. We do not know if this game has been sent off to the printers or if the files are just sitting in limbo. Same goes for Lost Valley. I have backed all three of the games Pandasaurus put here and of all of my kickstarter experiences this company has been BY FAR my worst. I have backed enough projects (and created my own) to fully expect all of these games to go WAY over schedule it comes with the territory, but what I didn't expect was no communication.
43. Creator David Johnston on January 21
  
  After three months of silence, it would be nice to get an update, especially for those of us who backed at a level that receives Tammany Hall as well. According to that project page, the games arrived at the warehouse a week ago (though nobody has received the game yet).
44. Creator gneissrock on January 14
  
  I heard back from Pandasaurus Games and here is what they said...
  
  It is coming along, though will probably see a slight delay. Our first game has been held at customs for over a month, so most of our time has been spent trying to get it off of the boat, but it looks like we may have some light at the end of the tunnel there, and will be shifting all of our focus to GFOL.
45. Creator Vincent Saulnier on January 14
  
  I just hope that we will have feedback soon.
46. Creator Colin Sham on January 13
  
  Given the lack of updates, I can only assume the estimated delivery at Feb 2013 to be a long forgotten dream. And I'm glad I'm not the only one that has checked this page in 2013 wondering just what's been happening!
47. Creator Craig Coffin on January 11
  
  Tammany Hall has just cleared customs, so I imagine GFoL will soon be getting some attention.
48. Creator Matt on January 9
  
  He has been updating Tammany Hall's kickstarter on a regular basis. So i imagine once that gets out of the customs nightmare he is currently dealing with and gets the game shipped out he will move onto updating this one on a regular basis.
  
  While i agree he should be telling us more status updates i think he realized once he finished he third project how much work updating all three at once would be hence he never launched a 4th kickstarter and has gone silent on these two to get his first one that is running behind schedule out.
49. Creator gneissrock on January 9
  
  I sent a message directly to Pandasaurus Games asking for an update, but I have yet to hear anything back. I sure hope to hear something soon. Three months without a peep seems a bit unreasonable.
50. Creator Elias Danger Guerra on January 7
  
  Last update was October 19th. I'd like to hear about what's been going on with the project (and with Tammany Hall). Even if it's just a few sentences.