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      Creator Vak Sambath about 21 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 21 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Alon Walter about 21 hours ago

      Please report this project to Kickstarter:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/report/new
      (use the link above)
      You can say he is spamming us, as that seems to be his new method.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 21 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Arthur about 21 hours ago

      im taking a break from studying, what's going on? i bit confuse, o.O

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 21 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Trogdor about 22 hours ago

      @Vak

      Sorry to see you've given up.
      --
      Is It For The Money?
      You think you're the next golden child huh? You're telling yourself that the next idea is going to make you boatloads of money.

      Maybe It's Fame You're After.
      Be on top of the world? You want to have your name is bright lights, Forbes magazine, or your own star on the walk of fame.

      You Want To Change The World?
      You've discovered a real world problem and you're tired of living with it and now you have an idea on how to fix it. This idea of yours is going to solve a big pain in the ass for you and everyone else!!! Let's talk...

      Let Me Crush Your Dreams Or Not...over a meal. Please :)
      If you're why is any one of these, then let's do lunch. I love free meals. Not sure what's better though: eating the actual meal or the idea? Hehe. Jk. I'll be gentle.

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      Creator Alon Walter about 22 hours ago

      Please report this project to Kickstarter:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/report/new
      (use the link above)
      You can say he is spamming us, as that seems to be his new method.

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      Creator Kevin Schumacher about 22 hours ago

      Backed for $1 just so I can post a comment.

      Reported to KS. This project is a joke.

      Time to cancel my pledge.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Nguyen Nhat Linh about 22 hours ago

      Don't bother. Anyone who reads his post would wonder what's going on and then read all the way down. Noone would support a project with the creator being active spammer.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 22 hours ago

      And a list of questions that the creators refuse to answer for some reason:
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      How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
      How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
      What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
      What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
      What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
      What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
      Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
      What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
      Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
      What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
      Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
      What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
      -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
      Can you give us more information on the multi-touchscreen? (this is mostly for the engineer in me, as far as is it capacitive etc)
      Can you give us any specs on the vibration? Is it comparable to the Pebble in terms of strength? Does it have different vibration settings?
      You might have answered this but: Does each watch come with 1 leash device?
      Are you joking on all the backers here ?? It is the 1 of April or December ?
      You made an update that a child can do that!
      You show us designs that was not made by you, by the way its very easy to take a watch from the net and modified it and just add a screen on it, is what you did in your update!!
      By the way nice adaptation trying to take the Pebble body in red and adapt it on your watch!! hahahahaha, Vak I am sorry but I am really dont know if to laugh or Cry.
      So you are telling us that APPSCOMM copy from you the design ??
      Just how they will copy if you never present before your watch ??
      And how APPSCOMM design the same watch before you if they copy from you ??
      For the patent, this is what you are thinking is a patent ?
      Waiting for all the answers from your team.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 22 hours ago

      You think you're so clever and you're pushing the questions and concerns down, aren't you. Too bad we're not giving up that easy. Below is a find by a fellow Kickstarter member:
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      Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
      I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
      I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
      The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
      Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
      Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
      Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
      The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
      Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
      For all the backers here is all the proof
      Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
      Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
      http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
      http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
      http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
      http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
      http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
      http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Next time dont take us for idiots !!

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      Creator Stephen Mitchell about 22 hours ago

      He's mad now. I can't believe the pledge totals are still so high!

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 22 hours ago

      It's like having a poke war it'd seem. Who can go on longer :D

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator nicole dolly about 22 hours ago

      @TheWolf. LMAO
      @Vak you can forget about naming watch after me....... I don't want my name on nooooooooooo parts of this deal. Thanks for your understanding.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @BJ - LOL it seems like he corrected himself in parentheses for some reason. Took him 3 days to come up with that list and didn't even edit properly.
      No decent attorney would tell their client to lie about holding patents they don't, provide false and misleading information, and falsely accept Kickstarters terms of service contract that opens him up to a lawsuit if the project succeeded and he didn't deliver what was promised.
      Just like no engineer would say such vague and false statements. If you gave an engineer a list of questions like "How much RAM", you would get back answers like "1 GB RAM".
      Maybe if he posts it for a 5th(6th?) time it will make more sense. I wait in white-knuckled anticipation.

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      Creator BJ Van Gundy about 22 hours ago

      Just curious y'all... is number 12 of Vak's BS illiteracy... or am I the only one that doesn't understand his problem with "extensive" and "expensive"?

      And another Bahahahahaha: Could anyone really read Vak's list and think that a single solitary other person... let alone real attorneys or real engineers... reviewed this list of gobbledigook prior to Vak posting it? LMAO

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @stephen - It's ok, I for one will be looking on my indiegogo account for "someone" to try and get money for something like this. Indiegogo is also more ruthless with fakes since you don't have to even reach a goal to get the money, and fakes are much more common on there.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @nicole - At this point, the haloband is probably closer to a smartwatch than this project...

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      Creator Stephen Mitchell about 22 hours ago

      Creator reported for spamming. It's only a matter of time now before this thing gets shut down. Then he'll probably head over to Indiegogo and rip those guys off.

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      Creator nicole dolly about 22 hours ago

      I reported yesterday @ check out the HALOBAND........... Yes its not a smartwatch but seems like a neat little gadget!!!!

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 22 hours ago

      @ThaWulf
      Did so with mine after your earlier comment.
      As you said, even if this turns out to be legit, which seems pretty much impossible now, this is not the behavior of a professional company I'd want to have any dealings with.
      What's pretty funny is they think this 5 year old child approach can have any effect :D

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      Creator Alon Walter about 22 hours ago

      @Everyone, when he copy-pastes his answer, please paste the following statement:

      Please report this project to Kickstarter:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/report/new
      (use the link above)
      You can say he is spamming us, as that seems to be his new method.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @Rumen - It takes a lot for KS to actually listen to reports. Besides stuff that's obvious like nudity or charity organizations they pretty much just let stuff happen and take their cut of the earnings.

      We have +6 backers today. People really need to start reducing/canceling pledges so this project looks more like the dud it is.

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      Creator Alon Walter about 22 hours ago

      @Vak: now that's just discussing...

      @People:
      If it was only a customization instead of a real new product, I would have gone just now without saying the next statement, but as I see some brute lies, and the way the creator keeps trying to "manage" us:
      Please report this project to Kickstarter:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/report/new
      (use the link above)
      You can say he is spamming us, as that seems to be his new method.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 22 hours ago

      Cool strategy, you seem to be forgetting about the "Report to Kickstarter" button though.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      1) Besides saying "dual processor" I have yet to see any stats on this different processor you reference
      2) You have yet to show how well the Qi works with the watch, just shown pictures of a watch that looks like the Z3 on some kind of dock
      3) You have yet to show any actual patents so stop saying you have patented apps/etc
      4) Upgrading an android version hardly makes it a different watch
      5) Again claiming patents without any patent numbers or info. If you haven't actually applied/recieved a patent, don't claim to have it patented
      6) You have yet to show how the tracking works, and it's not like tracking apps are new
      7) You have shown standard watch bands and some pictures made on a computer, not actual products in these many colors
      8) Have yet to see this work, and it seems to just be an app that moves apps onto the watch from the phone, much like you can export watch skins to Pebble
      9) notifications and time? Pebble has a watch and a vibrate function. Fail to see how yours is special, and again with claiming patents you don't have
      10) You have a metal case. Ok.
      11) Fitness apps are everywhere. Again yet to see actual app in action
      12) Paying a company to develop apps for you (which we don't know is true or not) doesn't make your watch different
      13) There aren't really enough on the market to call some high end. Samsung is the closest you get. This statement means nothing
      14) So you can charge more, yes. We understand but again Z3 is in China, you're in the US. Yuo claim higher stats. You added metal to the frame. Of course that's more expensive.

      None of these provide any of our answers. You still provided no new specs, no new pictures or video. Making bold claims is easy, backing them up is what we want.

      Do you see how I responded to each of your assertions? This is what we want with our list of questions. Stop trying to divert the conversation into marketing BS speak and try for once to answer our questions straight.

      o-o... Z3==Rock, you have provided no proof to the contrary.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      At this point even if this isn't a scam, I won't be backing for a watch. A company this disorganized and bad at communication wouldn't be able to design a decent product.
      I think it's about time those sitting on the fence give up. They clearly don't want to provide clear answers for one reason or another. Your time and money would be better spent and might even be respected, elsewhere.

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      Creator Alon Walter about 23 hours ago

      So many questions unanswered.
      And the answers we do get are tip-towing between the truth and you trying to save face.
      All the points about the lies unfulfillable promises still remain:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/comments…
      All the question about the watch are still open:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/comments…

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 23 hours ago

      So the new strategy is to push questions further down so people can't find them that easy or what?

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      Creator Randall McQuade about 23 hours ago

      @Vac Why don't you put your response in as an update then you won't have to repost it.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      1) Besides saying "dual processor" I have yet to see any stats on this different processor you reference
      2) You have yet to show how well the Qi works with the watch, just shown pictures of a watch that looks like the Z3 on some kind of dock
      3) You have yet to show any actual patents so stop saying you have patented apps/etc
      4) Upgrading an android version hardly makes it a different watch
      5) Again claiming patents without any patent numbers or info. If you haven't actually applied/recieved a patent, don't claim to have it patented
      6) You have yet to show how the tracking works, and it's not like tracking apps are new
      7) You have shown standard watch bands and some pictures made on a computer, not actual products in these many colors
      8) Have yet to see this work, and it seems to just be an app that moves apps onto the watch from the phone, much like you can export watch skins to Pebble
      9) notifications and time? Pebble has a watch and a vibrate function. Fail to see how yours is special, and again with claiming patents you don't have
      10) You have a metal case. Ok.
      11) Fitness apps are everywhere. Again yet to see actual app in action
      12) Paying a company to develop apps for you (which we don't know is true or not) doesn't make your watch different
      13) There aren't really enough on the market to call some high end. Samsung is the closest you get. This statement means nothing
      14) So you can charge more, yes. We understand but again Z3 is in China, you're in the US. Yuo claim higher stats. You added metal to the frame. Of course that's more expensive.

      None of these provide any of our answers. You still provided no new specs, no new pictures or video. Making bold claims is easy, backing them up is what we want.

      Do you see how I responded to each of your assertions? This is what we want with our list of questions. Stop trying to divert the conversation into marketing BS speak and try for once to answer our questions straight.

      Look, see? I can copy and paste too.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 23 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 23 hours ago

      @Rock team
      So, according to your team, the answer to a list of technical questions and concerns, is a vague list of marketing answers...seems legit.
      Imo you just buried yourself even deeper.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      1) Besides saying "dual processor" I have yet to see any stats on this different processor you reference
      2) You have yet to show how well the Qi works with the watch, just shown pictures of a watch that looks like the Z3 on some kind of dock
      3) You have yet to show any actual patents so stop saying you have patented apps/etc
      4) Upgrading an android version hardly makes it a different watch
      5) Again claiming patents without any patent numbers or info. If you haven't actually applied/recieved a patent, don't claim to have it patented
      6) You have yet to show how the tracking works, and it's not like tracking apps are new
      7) You have shown standard watch bands and some pictures made on a computer, not actual products in these many colors
      8) Have yet to see this work, and it seems to just be an app that moves apps onto the watch from the phone, much like you can export watch skins to Pebble
      9) notifications and time? Pebble has a watch and a vibrate function. Fail to see how yours is special, and again with claiming patents you don't have
      10) You have a metal case. Ok.
      11) Fitness apps are everywhere. Again yet to see actual app in action
      12) Paying a company to develop apps for you (which we don't know is true or not) doesn't make your watch different
      13) There aren't really enough on the market to call some high end. Samsung is the closest you get. This statement means nothing
      14) So you can charge more, yes. We understand but again Z3 is in China, you're in the US. Yuo claim higher stats. You added metal to the frame. Of course that's more expensive.

      None of these provide any of our answers. You still provided no new specs, no new pictures or video. Making bold claims is easy, backing them up is what we want.

      Do you see how I responded to each of your assertions? This is what we want with our list of questions. Stop trying to divert the conversation into marketing BS speak and try for once to answer our questions straight.

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      Creator BJ Van Gundy about 23 hours ago

      Sorry I can't be more lucid with a comment... but @Vak Bahahahahahahahahaha...

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      Creator Randall McQuade about 23 hours ago

      Or Tira's repost :)

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      Creator Randall McQuade about 23 hours ago

      @Vak Really? That's your answer to the all the technical questions that have been asked. In case you have forgotten Look at the post just before yours.

      Answer those questions. You have done nothing to address the questions asked of you !!!!!

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      Creator Tira Rainer about 23 hours ago

      @VAK you really start to piss off, back away, if its look similar how you use the same pictures of the Z3 on your campaign ??
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
      Why you are continue to lying to us ??
      The rock has a different processor than the Z-3???? So what is the processor????
      The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have???? Give us to test them!!!!
      The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3??? What is the operating system ??????
      The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not???? So how its connect it to the back ???? and if you develop it so how you dont know even the battery capacity ????
      The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market!!! Yes, and you dont know how much is the Ram?
      Really sorry but now with his answers I am completely convince that this is a Scam!!!!!!!
      Hope that KS Will do something very soon!!!!!
      3 days to answer simple questions ?? and still dont answer any questions ??
      Sorry you are really joking on all the backers here!!!!
      Here below all the questions that you need to not to forget to answer them.
      How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
      How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
      What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
      What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
      What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
      What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
      Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
      What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
      Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
      What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
      Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
      What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
      -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
      Can you give us more information on the multi-touchscreen? (this is mostly for the engineer in me, as far as is it capacitive etc)
      Can you give us any specs on the vibration? Is it comparable to the Pebble in terms of strength? Does it have different vibration settings?
      You might have answered this but: Does each watch come with 1 leash device?
      Are you joking on all the backers here ?? It is the 1 of April or December ?
      You made an update that a child can do that!
      You show us designs that was not made by you, by the way its very easy to take a watch from the net and modified it and just add a screen on it, is what you did in your update!!
      By the way nice adaptation trying to take the Pebble body in red and adapt it on your watch!! hahahahaha, Vak I am sorry but I am really dont know if to laugh or Cry.
      So you are telling us that APPSCOMM copy from you the design ??
      Just how they will copy if you never present before your watch ??
      And how APPSCOMM design the same watch before you if they copy from you ??
      For the patent, this is what you are thinking is a patent ?
      Waiting for all the answers from your team.
      @Vak I got to tell you, you are funny man.
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      Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
      Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
      I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
      1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
      2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
      3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
      4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
      5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
      6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
      7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
      Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
      Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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      Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
      I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
      I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
      The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
      Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
      Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
      Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
      The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
      Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
      For all the backers here is all the proof
      Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
      Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
      http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
      http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
      http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
      http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
      http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
      http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Next time dont take us for idiots !!

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