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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @BJ - LOL it seems like he corrected himself in parentheses for some reason. Took him 3 days to come up with that list and didn't even edit properly.
      No decent attorney would tell their client to lie about holding patents they don't, provide false and misleading information, and falsely accept Kickstarters terms of service contract that opens him up to a lawsuit if the project succeeded and he didn't deliver what was promised.
      Just like no engineer would say such vague and false statements. If you gave an engineer a list of questions like "How much RAM", you would get back answers like "1 GB RAM".
      Maybe if he posts it for a 5th(6th?) time it will make more sense. I wait in white-knuckled anticipation.

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      Creator BJ Van Gundy about 22 hours ago

      Just curious y'all... is number 12 of Vak's BS illiteracy... or am I the only one that doesn't understand his problem with "extensive" and "expensive"?

      And another Bahahahahaha: Could anyone really read Vak's list and think that a single solitary other person... let alone real attorneys or real engineers... reviewed this list of gobbledigook prior to Vak posting it? LMAO

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @stephen - It's ok, I for one will be looking on my indiegogo account for "someone" to try and get money for something like this. Indiegogo is also more ruthless with fakes since you don't have to even reach a goal to get the money, and fakes are much more common on there.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @nicole - At this point, the haloband is probably closer to a smartwatch than this project...

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      Creator Stephen Mitchell about 22 hours ago

      Creator reported for spamming. It's only a matter of time now before this thing gets shut down. Then he'll probably head over to Indiegogo and rip those guys off.

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      Creator nicole dolly about 22 hours ago

      I reported yesterday @ check out the HALOBAND........... Yes its not a smartwatch but seems like a neat little gadget!!!!

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 22 hours ago

      @ThaWulf
      Did so with mine after your earlier comment.
      As you said, even if this turns out to be legit, which seems pretty much impossible now, this is not the behavior of a professional company I'd want to have any dealings with.
      What's pretty funny is they think this 5 year old child approach can have any effect :D

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      Creator Alon Walter about 22 hours ago

      @Everyone, when he copy-pastes his answer, please paste the following statement:

      Please report this project to Kickstarter:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/report/new
      (use the link above)
      You can say he is spamming us, as that seems to be his new method.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 22 hours ago

      @Rumen - It takes a lot for KS to actually listen to reports. Besides stuff that's obvious like nudity or charity organizations they pretty much just let stuff happen and take their cut of the earnings.

      We have +6 backers today. People really need to start reducing/canceling pledges so this project looks more like the dud it is.

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      Creator Alon Walter about 22 hours ago

      @Vak: now that's just discussing...

      @People:
      If it was only a customization instead of a real new product, I would have gone just now without saying the next statement, but as I see some brute lies, and the way the creator keeps trying to "manage" us:
      Please report this project to Kickstarter:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/report/new
      (use the link above)
      You can say he is spamming us, as that seems to be his new method.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 22 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 23 hours ago

      Cool strategy, you seem to be forgetting about the "Report to Kickstarter" button though.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      1) Besides saying "dual processor" I have yet to see any stats on this different processor you reference
      2) You have yet to show how well the Qi works with the watch, just shown pictures of a watch that looks like the Z3 on some kind of dock
      3) You have yet to show any actual patents so stop saying you have patented apps/etc
      4) Upgrading an android version hardly makes it a different watch
      5) Again claiming patents without any patent numbers or info. If you haven't actually applied/recieved a patent, don't claim to have it patented
      6) You have yet to show how the tracking works, and it's not like tracking apps are new
      7) You have shown standard watch bands and some pictures made on a computer, not actual products in these many colors
      8) Have yet to see this work, and it seems to just be an app that moves apps onto the watch from the phone, much like you can export watch skins to Pebble
      9) notifications and time? Pebble has a watch and a vibrate function. Fail to see how yours is special, and again with claiming patents you don't have
      10) You have a metal case. Ok.
      11) Fitness apps are everywhere. Again yet to see actual app in action
      12) Paying a company to develop apps for you (which we don't know is true or not) doesn't make your watch different
      13) There aren't really enough on the market to call some high end. Samsung is the closest you get. This statement means nothing
      14) So you can charge more, yes. We understand but again Z3 is in China, you're in the US. Yuo claim higher stats. You added metal to the frame. Of course that's more expensive.

      None of these provide any of our answers. You still provided no new specs, no new pictures or video. Making bold claims is easy, backing them up is what we want.

      Do you see how I responded to each of your assertions? This is what we want with our list of questions. Stop trying to divert the conversation into marketing BS speak and try for once to answer our questions straight.

      o-o... Z3==Rock, you have provided no proof to the contrary.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 23 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      At this point even if this isn't a scam, I won't be backing for a watch. A company this disorganized and bad at communication wouldn't be able to design a decent product.
      I think it's about time those sitting on the fence give up. They clearly don't want to provide clear answers for one reason or another. Your time and money would be better spent and might even be respected, elsewhere.

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      Creator Alon Walter about 23 hours ago

      So many questions unanswered.
      And the answers we do get are tip-towing between the truth and you trying to save face.
      All the points about the lies unfulfillable promises still remain:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/comments…
      All the question about the watch are still open:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/comments…

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 23 hours ago

      So the new strategy is to push questions further down so people can't find them that easy or what?

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      Creator Randall McQuade about 23 hours ago

      @Vac Why don't you put your response in as an update then you won't have to repost it.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      1) Besides saying "dual processor" I have yet to see any stats on this different processor you reference
      2) You have yet to show how well the Qi works with the watch, just shown pictures of a watch that looks like the Z3 on some kind of dock
      3) You have yet to show any actual patents so stop saying you have patented apps/etc
      4) Upgrading an android version hardly makes it a different watch
      5) Again claiming patents without any patent numbers or info. If you haven't actually applied/recieved a patent, don't claim to have it patented
      6) You have yet to show how the tracking works, and it's not like tracking apps are new
      7) You have shown standard watch bands and some pictures made on a computer, not actual products in these many colors
      8) Have yet to see this work, and it seems to just be an app that moves apps onto the watch from the phone, much like you can export watch skins to Pebble
      9) notifications and time? Pebble has a watch and a vibrate function. Fail to see how yours is special, and again with claiming patents you don't have
      10) You have a metal case. Ok.
      11) Fitness apps are everywhere. Again yet to see actual app in action
      12) Paying a company to develop apps for you (which we don't know is true or not) doesn't make your watch different
      13) There aren't really enough on the market to call some high end. Samsung is the closest you get. This statement means nothing
      14) So you can charge more, yes. We understand but again Z3 is in China, you're in the US. Yuo claim higher stats. You added metal to the frame. Of course that's more expensive.

      None of these provide any of our answers. You still provided no new specs, no new pictures or video. Making bold claims is easy, backing them up is what we want.

      Do you see how I responded to each of your assertions? This is what we want with our list of questions. Stop trying to divert the conversation into marketing BS speak and try for once to answer our questions straight.

      Look, see? I can copy and paste too.

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      Creator Vak Sambath about 23 hours ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Rumen Matanov about 23 hours ago

      @Rock team
      So, according to your team, the answer to a list of technical questions and concerns, is a vague list of marketing answers...seems legit.
      Imo you just buried yourself even deeper.

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      Creator ThaWulf about 23 hours ago

      1) Besides saying "dual processor" I have yet to see any stats on this different processor you reference
      2) You have yet to show how well the Qi works with the watch, just shown pictures of a watch that looks like the Z3 on some kind of dock
      3) You have yet to show any actual patents so stop saying you have patented apps/etc
      4) Upgrading an android version hardly makes it a different watch
      5) Again claiming patents without any patent numbers or info. If you haven't actually applied/recieved a patent, don't claim to have it patented
      6) You have yet to show how the tracking works, and it's not like tracking apps are new
      7) You have shown standard watch bands and some pictures made on a computer, not actual products in these many colors
      8) Have yet to see this work, and it seems to just be an app that moves apps onto the watch from the phone, much like you can export watch skins to Pebble
      9) notifications and time? Pebble has a watch and a vibrate function. Fail to see how yours is special, and again with claiming patents you don't have
      10) You have a metal case. Ok.
      11) Fitness apps are everywhere. Again yet to see actual app in action
      12) Paying a company to develop apps for you (which we don't know is true or not) doesn't make your watch different
      13) There aren't really enough on the market to call some high end. Samsung is the closest you get. This statement means nothing
      14) So you can charge more, yes. We understand but again Z3 is in China, you're in the US. Yuo claim higher stats. You added metal to the frame. Of course that's more expensive.

      None of these provide any of our answers. You still provided no new specs, no new pictures or video. Making bold claims is easy, backing them up is what we want.

      Do you see how I responded to each of your assertions? This is what we want with our list of questions. Stop trying to divert the conversation into marketing BS speak and try for once to answer our questions straight.

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      Creator BJ Van Gundy about 23 hours ago

      Sorry I can't be more lucid with a comment... but @Vak Bahahahahahahahahaha...

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      Creator Randall McQuade about 23 hours ago

      Or Tira's repost :)

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      Creator Randall McQuade about 23 hours ago

      @Vak Really? That's your answer to the all the technical questions that have been asked. In case you have forgotten Look at the post just before yours.

      Answer those questions. You have done nothing to address the questions asked of you !!!!!

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      Creator Tira Rainer about 23 hours ago

      @VAK you really start to piss off, back away, if its look similar how you use the same pictures of the Z3 on your campaign ??
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
      Why you are continue to lying to us ??
      The rock has a different processor than the Z-3???? So what is the processor????
      The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have???? Give us to test them!!!!
      The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3??? What is the operating system ??????
      The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not???? So how its connect it to the back ???? and if you develop it so how you dont know even the battery capacity ????
      The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market!!! Yes, and you dont know how much is the Ram?
      Really sorry but now with his answers I am completely convince that this is a Scam!!!!!!!
      Hope that KS Will do something very soon!!!!!
      3 days to answer simple questions ?? and still dont answer any questions ??
      Sorry you are really joking on all the backers here!!!!
      Here below all the questions that you need to not to forget to answer them.
      How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
      How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
      What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
      What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
      What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
      What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
      Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
      What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
      Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
      What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
      Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
      What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
      -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
      Can you give us more information on the multi-touchscreen? (this is mostly for the engineer in me, as far as is it capacitive etc)
      Can you give us any specs on the vibration? Is it comparable to the Pebble in terms of strength? Does it have different vibration settings?
      You might have answered this but: Does each watch come with 1 leash device?
      Are you joking on all the backers here ?? It is the 1 of April or December ?
      You made an update that a child can do that!
      You show us designs that was not made by you, by the way its very easy to take a watch from the net and modified it and just add a screen on it, is what you did in your update!!
      By the way nice adaptation trying to take the Pebble body in red and adapt it on your watch!! hahahahaha, Vak I am sorry but I am really dont know if to laugh or Cry.
      So you are telling us that APPSCOMM copy from you the design ??
      Just how they will copy if you never present before your watch ??
      And how APPSCOMM design the same watch before you if they copy from you ??
      For the patent, this is what you are thinking is a patent ?
      Waiting for all the answers from your team.
      @Vak I got to tell you, you are funny man.
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      Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
      Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
      I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
      1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
      2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
      3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
      4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
      5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
      6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
      7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
      Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
      Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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      Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
      I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
      I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
      The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
      Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
      Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
      Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
      The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
      Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
      For all the backers here is all the proof
      Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
      Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
      http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
      http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
      http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
      http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
      http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
      http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Next time dont take us for idiots !!

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      Creator Vak Sambath 1 day ago

      We have been in conversations with our engineers, manufacturers and designers. After reviewing the links that have been sent by the Kickstarter community, we have concluded that the Z3 may look similar to the Rock, but we are completely different and better; based on the description below;

      1) The rock has a different processor than the Z-3.

      2) The rock has QI wireless charging the Z-3 does not, neither any other Android smartwatch
      currently on the market.

      3) The rock has patented proprietary apps that currently Z-3 does not have.

      4) The rock Wall Street business is using a different Operating system than the Z-3.

      5) The rock had the first patented QI wireless docking station Z-3 does not.

      6) The rock has a tracking app system that the Z-3 does not have or exist in the smart watch world.

      7) The rock selection of colors and features is far better and different than the Z-3.

      8) Rock has the first app portal which does not exist with the Z3 or Android app store.
      9) The Z3 does not have our patented unique rocking nine notifications and time feature.
      10) The Z3 does not have a complete metal Wall Street business watch with metal features and greater durability.

      11) The Z3 does not have our fitness app features.

      12) The Z3 is not partnered with pintails expensive (Pyntail with extensive) app experience and ability

      13) The rock hardware system and operating system is comparable to high end consumer smartwatches in the current market

      14) The rocks cost of developing, design, features and proprietary patents to manufacture is far more costly then this Z-3.

      Rocks designers focused on providing an affordable and dependable consumer smart watch that enhances their lifestyle. Rock was specifically designed for the convenience and lifestyle of the mass consumers.

      Thanks,
      Rock Team

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      Creator Tira Rainer 1 day ago

      Hi ThaWulf thanks for regrouping all the questions from all the backers so it will don't get missed.
      But sorry for me 3 days for only answer some simple questions that no need even an engineer for it, it is to much
      Really is really simple questions for a person that work for several years on a project, is like to ask a child how much is 2+2 !!!!!!!!!!!
      By the way the Z3 dont have a GPS antenna the Ram is 256mb and 2GB of memory running Android 4.1.
      Dont dream that a Team that even dont know how to answer how much is the Ram and the Rom will create apps or upgrade the Android OS or even upgrade the spec of the Z3
      they even doesn't show us the 3D design, In their last updates is just showing poor photoshopped pictures.
      @VAK 3 days to answer simple questions ?? Sorry you are really joking on all the backers here!!!!
      Here below all the questions that you need to not to forget to answer them.
      How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
      How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
      What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
      What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
      What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
      What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
      Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
      What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
      Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
      What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
      Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
      What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
      -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
      Can you give us more information on the multi-touchscreen? (this is mostly for the engineer in me, as far as is it capacitive etc)
      Can you give us any specs on the vibration? Is it comparable to the Pebble in terms of strength? Does it have different vibration settings?
      You might have answered this but: Does each watch come with 1 leash device?
      Are you joking on all the backers here ?? It is the 1 of April or December ?
      You made an update that a child can do that!
      You show us designs that was not made by you, by the way its very easy to take a watch from the net and modified it and just add a screen on it, is what you did in your update!!
      By the way nice adaptation trying to take the Pebble body in red and adapt it on your watch!! hahahahaha, Vak I am sorry but I am really dont know if to laugh or Cry.
      So you are telling us that APPSCOMM copy from you the design ??
      Just how they will copy if you never present before your watch ??
      And how APPSCOMM design the same watch before you if they copy from you ??
      For the patent, this is what you are thinking is a patent ?
      Waiting for all the answers from your team.
      @Vak I got to tell you, you are funny man.
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      Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
      Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
      I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
      1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
      2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
      3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
      4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
      5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
      6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
      7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
      Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
      Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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      Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
      I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
      I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
      The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
      Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
      Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
      Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
      The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
      Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
      For all the backers here is all the proof
      Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
      Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
      http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
      http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
      http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
      http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
      http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
      http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Next time dont take us for idiots !!

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      @Alon - Ah ok, that would make more sense. I mainly skimmed the Z3 specs.

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      Creator Alon Walter 1 day ago

      @ThaWolf:
      Read the Z3's specs again.
      It only says "accessing the GPS on your smartphone to display speed, distance and pace data",
      and below, the cpu is described as one that can support GPS navigators.
      So no GPS even in the "original" specs...

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      Everyone should also look at the Pine: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/neptune/neptune-pine-smartwatch-reinvented…
      They have a real product, without all these lies and misinformation. It's a wee bit more expensive, but if you think you're getting a quality OLED 4GB smartwatch for 93 bucks with unique well built apps, you need to get out of Wonderland and enter back into the real world.
      If this product is legit, I expect the specs to be reduced from what's claimed right now, same as the "waterproof" claim ended up being a water resistant coating that can't handle much more than splashes.

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      Creator Stephen Mitchell 1 day ago

      To be clear from my point of view:

      If this is a real product and Vak and his team got blindsided, sabotaged, whatever, I would love to have a Rock Smartwatch.

      However, if this is just another KS scam, then it's only a matter of time before this thing gets shut down and if Vak and his team come down on hard times as a result of this....then too bad. You get what you deserve.

      Right now, things are not looking good for Vak. Too many unanswered questions and seriously How Can You Not Know the Specs of Your Own Product? You need to get a statement from your engineering team? It's your face on this project's profile. I'm sorry Vak, but it is YOU who should have all the answers.

      * To the backers, if you are really interested in this product but are wary of the the details emerging from all of this, take a moment and just reduce your pledge to the minimum. It will still keep you in the campaign. Also when Vak sees his pledge total dropping (which it is since yesterday), I bet you he will really take notice and either he will come clean and verify that what he says is true. At that point, we all (INCLUDING MYSELF) can shut up and let the man do his work and deliver the product we all want. Or, this whole thing will blow up in his face, resulting in very negative media coverage as another KS scammer and this campaign will get shut down.

      Just think, yesterday at almost this exact time, Vak was pretty close to reaching his goal. That is until, we started paying attention and asking questions. The questions being asked, were not hard questions, but nevertheless, they got deflected, ignored, etc.

      Sorry Vak, honestly, you have no one to blame but yourself how this is being handled. Hopefully you will come out of this one cleanly and get to finish the work you started. If not, if this all turns out to be another hoax, then to hell with you and you get what you deserve.

      The Rock Smartwatch seems awesome and I really hope I am wrong about you and your campaign. Again, good luck.

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      Creator Randall McQuade 1 day ago

      @Alon No GPS so can't be used as a standalone for biking to track distance. Thanks for that info I never thought of that.

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      @LiLo - I had backed that until I realized they were going for a standalone. It seemed like kind of overkill for what I wanted. It's still tempting but how large it is and the higher cost kind of put me off. It will probably take Google or Apple to make a sexy smartwatch that doesn't promise the world but operates as a companion to a smartphone really well.

      @Alon - I actually think the Z3 has GPS, which I found kind of funny that that wasn't shown in this watches specs. The specs seem written up to pull wool over the eyes of people with less technical knowledge. Most people won't know that 4 GB isn't practical or even possible, that you can't have 1080p screen on a 420x420 screen, that OLED looks much better than the photos shown here and would bring the cost of the watch up significantly. There's also a reason the metal bands don't look too great, they weren't made for this watch. They're just replacement standard watch bands.
      The excuses of engineers needing more time, lawyers needing to be contacted, etc, is starting to grow old. I've seen some legit projects have issues, but never have they worked so hard at providing 0 new information. Even if this is legit, do I want a product from a company that takes 3 days to figure out how much RAM is in their watch?

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      Creator Alon Walter 1 day ago

      The things that are lies or unfulfillable promises that I spoted:
      1) He claims he uses a local hardware company to design the watch.
      2) He promises the watch in metal case, without realizing that will block bluetooth, wifi and QI.
      3) He quotes specs badly, resulting in promises such as 1080p screen resolution.
      4) He has fake "radar" functionality to pin point the lost phone - can't be done without triangulation. That's just a mock-up app, and if he didn't understand it until now - it's not feasible.
      5) He promises it can measure distances on the bike (how? no GPS...).

      Obviously there are a lot of open questions, and things that seam fishy, but these points are a bluntly misleading people (with or without intent).

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      Creator LiLo 1 day ago

      @TheWulf - What about Neptune Pine? It's maybe an overkill if you just want a companion (rather than a stand-alone smartwatch) but it seems to be the real deal.

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      @LiLo - this is true. I do like supporting small American companies/persons like this : http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmukshoes/cmuk-shoes-take-on-life-feet-first
      That is what a project should be like. He has plenty of photos, he is up front about design work and what goes into making the shoes, etc.
      If I end up being wrong, I will apologize and pledge for a watch. But if it continues as is, I will continue to try and save people from throwing their money away. I am kind of tired of my pebble, and wish something like the Rock (the one promised) would come out.

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      Creator LiLo 1 day ago

      @TheWulf, I dont believe that is the case as I said below, just saying it would be quite an amazing story if it was as he claims

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      Creator Alon Walter 1 day ago

      @Lilo,
      As for what came first - I think it's clear from the sparse info we did get:
      Look at update #4.
      The first design (the one at the bottom) is from May 23.
      This is a watch with a different design, and a different screen. No one can make a new design (including different screen) in under a month (the next mail is from Jun).

      Now, I guess the best description for the situation - as Vak wants to see it - came from (his alleged alter ego) Tonya:
      "It seems to me that they commissioned Appscomm for the basic infrastructure, hired American developers and designers.. and for all we know both companies (Rock and the Chinese company) are working and collaborating really hard to produce a better product.."
      link:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/comments…

      I also guess that his initial intent was to strip the original casing, and use that local metal shop to produce a different casing.
      I guess he just got a little too cocky, and also decided to offer the original design as an option, making it even easier for him to cash as the middleman...

      His justification is if you were willing to pay for it, it shouldn't matter to you if it's new, or rebranded.
      Tonya:
      "If that's the case then I don't mind.. In fact I have to commend their hardwork for pimping something up and offering it to American consumers for a very friendly price"
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/comments…

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      Creator Sagar Tandel 1 day ago

      Maybe...we'll see what he says..

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      @LiLo - By the time MSRP pricing has been determined and the cost of making the watches is known, aka right now, stuff like what screen is in the watch and internal specs should be common knowledge. The person in charge of securing funding should have access to files and parts lists and cost comparisons. It would take an engineer all of 10 minutes to answer 90% of my questions, and there's no reason for it to take more than a day to get hold of an engineer. It sounds more like Vak is getting his info from the chinese company that makes the Z3. He is right now waiting on them to answer his questions, which would make sense why it takes so long. It can take a couple days to get answers from a chinese company what with language barriers and time differences. For a small team that loves their product, they don't seem to know anything about it, and all of their info is wrong/misleading.

      @Sagar - I have seen many projects where even up to half the backers ended up being fake, and the creator was just trying to boost pledges so he could steal the actual backers money. One creator pledged 10k on the last day to make his goal. It might just be coincidence, but it could be staged. It could also be that Vak went around to his friends and told them he needed help, or something similar.

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      Creator Sagar Tandel 1 day ago

      @ThaWulf if you look at the recent backers something is really fishy. All of the recent backers have not backed any of the other kickstarter projects but have backed this one and are supporting him even after not knowing anything about kickstarter and all are december entries. Or is it just me being too skeptical about this project.

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      Creator LiLo 1 day ago

      Wouldn't it be quite a story if it turns out that Vaks claim is true - That he has a team who worked and design a smartwatch for the past 2 years and that one of the partners he used in China during the process screwed him over by copying his design and starting to produce cheap copies?

      I still don't understand though, if that were the case, how he cannot know basic specs of his own watch, but just to play with the thought..

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      Creator Rumen Matanov 1 day ago

      @ThaWulf
      Fair enough. Didn't see it from that perspective.

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      Any new backers that don't read down the comment list - read this before backing. There is evidence that this project might be a scam, and until proven otherwise you should be wary. Also below is a list of the many simple questions we have been waiting days to hear answers to. The watch in this project looks and has same details as the Z3 watch by Uplay. The creator owns no patents for the watch or the apps despite saying he does on the front page. The creator has enough of a finished product to quote us "low prices" of 100 bucks, but doesn't know how much RAM the watch has, even saying ridiculous things like it having 4 GB RAM. Read through the comments, several backers have worked hard to dig into this project and have found plenty to cause doubt in it's authenticity, but no proof anything Vak says is true.
      From Tira:
      Hi @Trogdor, @ThaWulf I regroup all the questions of both of us so it will don't get missed, I very hope Vak will answer until tomorrow or I think that everybody will need to report this project to KS, I dont want to see any scams on KS and to me its really look like one.

      @VAK
      How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
      How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
      What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
      What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
      What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
      What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
      Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
      What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
      Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
      What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
      Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
      What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
      -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
      Can you give us more information on the multi-touchscreen? (this is mostly for the engineer in me, as far as is it capacitive etc)
      Can you give us any specs on the vibration? Is it comparable to the Pebble in terms of strength? Does it have different vibration settings?
      You might have answered this but: Does each watch come with 1 leash device?
      Are you joking on all the backers here ?? It is the 1 of April or December ?
      You made an update that a child can do that!
      You show us designs that was not made by you, by the way its very easy to take a watch from the net and modified it and just add a screen on it, is what you did in your update!!
      By the way nice adaptation trying to take the Pebble body in red and adapt it on your watch!! hahahahaha, Vak I am sorry but I am really dont know if to laugh or Cry.
      So you are telling us that APPSCOMM copy from you the design ??
      Just how they will copy if you never present before your watch ??
      And how APPSCOMM design the same watch before you if they copy from you ??
      For the patent, this is what you are thinking is a patent ?
      Waiting for all the answers from your team.
      @Vak I got to tell you, you are funny man.
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      Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
      Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
      I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
      1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
      2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
      3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
      4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
      5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
      6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
      7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
      Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
      Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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      Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
      I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
      I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
      The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
      Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
      Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
      Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
      The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
      Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
      For all the backers here is all the proof
      Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
      Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
      http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
      http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
      http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
      http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
      http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
      http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Next time dont take us for idiots !!

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      Creator ThaWulf 1 day ago

      @rumen - you also lose nothing reducing your pledge to a buck or by canceling your pledge and starring the project for later. it's not like any of the tiers are that exclusive.
      On the other hand by keeping your pledge high, you are hurting other backers. People will see this project and the fact it has 37k and back it without reading through the comments. When you see something fishy about a project, you don't just sit back and let other people jump on board, just because you know to leave at the last minute.

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      Creator Chi-Kong Ho 1 day ago

      Hi,
      if it is connected with my smartphone, does it works with whatsapp? whatsapp notification would be greatful :)

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      Creator Richard Hustwit 1 day ago

      Guys, even the cycling picture is fake:
      http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-98983154/stock-photo-two-cyclists-sprinting-past-the-camera-at-high-speed.html…
      ... walk away.

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